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Atlas Shrugged

Posted: 04/ 9/11 09:19 AM ET

Not only do I have nothing against Jesus Christ or Ayn Rand, I once took one of those tests that is supposed to tell you what your religious and political beliefs are and was told that I belonged in the Quaker church and the Libertarian party. Of course I didn't join either organization, and though I have nothing against either founder, i do have my occasional beef with the way some of their followers make movies.

The other night I was invited to a preview of Atlas Shrugged, a film based on one of the most influential books of the 20th century and had many of the same feelings I had watching one of those Left Behind movies. Then again, at least with the Left Behind movies there were some recognizable actors, albeit TV ones like Kirk Cameron and his gorgeous wife. With Atlas, the only person I had a vague memory of seeing was an actor who played one of Jerry's neighbors on Seinfeld. Not that a movie can't stand on its own without an overpaid actor, mind you, but doesn't an important work like Atlas Shrugged deserve some great actors who are not just recognizable but really good at their craft? There once was a plan, I'm told, to make this one just such a movie, with Angelina Jolie playing the lead character, and a script written by Randall Wallace of Braveheart fame. But Jolie got pregnant and for some reason I can't fathom, they decided not to use Wallace's script.

I now have a better understanding as well of what it must be like for an atheist to watch deeply religious movies, because if you weren't already an Aynd Rand fan, the film was at times very difficult to follow. Fortunately I had my iPhone with me and was able to read Wikipedia entries on the book as I watched, but should I really have to do that? Then there were the numerous references to a sort of transactionalism that the book is famous for, but they kept coming to the point that I just wanted to stand up in the theater and yell "Ok, I got it the first time: people do things out of self-interest. I get it. I get it!"

Ideas come to us through movies, and the notion that the end of the world might be upon us and that we may be left behind because of our wrong choices or that we shouldn't rely on government are interesting ones that are fine to consider. But precisely because they're interesting and important, they deserve to be considered in the best possible light, via seasoned actors, producers and directors at the helm.

I admire anybody who makes a movie, and any movie that gets made is a minor miracle. But doesn't an important book like this deserve better? And at the end of the day, isn't Hollywood to blame for this mess, not a well-meaning financier who tried his darndest and should be honored for putting in yeomen's work?

Shouldn't some of the time, talent and treasure that went into making movies like The Pope Must Diet or Kinsey have been diverted into the making of Atlas Shrugged?

 
 
 

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10:52 PM on 05/15/2011
As of May 15 this pivotal film has been watched by nearly 0.19% of the population. The percentage is higher if you only use the "Real American" population.
10:30 AM on 04/23/2011
Pt 2...
Also scrubbed clean was the backdrop of all this. The book showed us a grim twilight of America, where bitter and disenfranchised people shuffled through rainy grey streets, eyes downcast. That dismal mood was not here. The city, with its gleaming glass towers, clean sunny skies, and well dressed citizens made me feel this world was no worse off than the world of today. Any criticism on the low budget might be that this grimmer world was not portrayed- I didn't feel any "cheapness" otherwise. Critisisms of the direction are misplaced- it was competent. The true falure, I think is the screenwriter's tone-deafness to the character of the novel. Ultimately, I found the film to be bloodless and somewhat dull. I had hoped for more.
10:29 AM on 04/23/2011
Full disclosure: I read the book when I was 20, and liked it. Whether you embrace the philosophy or not, Ayn Rand was a good writer. I did not go into the theater looking to piss on this film.
The movie leaves out much of the philosophical speeches and musings (mercifully, as this is probably not conducive to a good screenplay), and although the character's motivations are all perfectly revealed as the plot unfolds, perhaps because of that deletion, the passion seems to be stripped out of their actions. Rand was pretty good at combining a philosophical treatise with a Jackie Collins novel, and that aspect has been scrubbed clean from the story. The fact that the Taggerts, Eddie, and Fransisco all grew up together, and that dynamic ( Eddie is secretly in love with Dagny, for instance) was totally deleted.
All the illicit sex was removed (an editorial decision), but so was much of the emotion. The scene where Dagny trades her necklace for Hank's wife's bracelet was much more catty and emotional in the book. Both women realized they were transferring Hank , not just jewlery. Those who best portray their roles are the veteran charcter actors who play the crooked politicians.
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11:48 AM on 04/18/2011
Came in 14th opening weekend. Even the conservative bloggers are struggling to defend it. Crap movie from a crap book.
07:51 AM on 04/14/2011
I see two common themes in the negative comments regarding the content of the book and movie. One is of disapproval with no reasons given for the disapproval. The other is "selfishness." It's been said that time is money. Time is much more valuable than money because once gone, it can never be retrieved. What taxes do is to take, by force, years of our life from us. I am lower middle class and I work until April (30% between state and local taxes) every year for a government that redistributes a great portion of my money. I'm not talking about defense or the postal service, but straight redistribution. If I want to give my money away in charity, I'd like to choose to whom that money goes. That I want to determine where my money goes, money that is bought and paid for with time from my life that can never be recouped, is not selfishness.
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10:08 PM on 04/18/2011
"What taxes do is to take, by force, years of our life from us."

Criminy.  Don't you guys ever update your patter?  I've been hearing this act for 55 years.  And I'm only 41.

Taxes buy your roads.  The top, very top, expenditures are Social Security (not part of the budget, but paid with taxes), Medicare and the military.  Everything else so paltry it doesn't even bear discussion compared to those three items, one of which defends us all and two of which YOU WILL BE DRAWING ON.

Or are you going to donate your Social Security and forgo Medicare?  Of course not.  Don't tell me, you're justified in taking it because you paid into the system even if you disagree with it.

Hey, know what?  My car was rummaged a few weeks ago.  Whose car do I get to break into in return?
05:12 PM on 04/12/2011
Apparently it is much more honorable to take from the producers and redistribute their wealth.
Why is it assumed that giving people money is better than giving people work?
Why is it assumed that producers would choose not to help the less fortunate?
Why is it assumed that producing something is inherently evil.
This country was built on freedom - not guilt.
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Tallulah Morehead
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06:01 PM on 04/12/2011
Ah, the meaningless blather of a Ture Objectivist.
11:09 AM on 04/13/2011
So why do you prefer communism to objectivism? Are you one of the leaches or part of the government elite?
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JShankel
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10:13 PM on 04/18/2011
"Why is it assumed that giving people money is better than giving people work?"

It's not.  No one says so except your straw men.  Remind me again of how many people are being laid off by private industry right now?

"Why is it assumed that producers would choose not to help the less fortunate?"

It's not assumed.  It's observed.

"Why is it assumed that producing something is inherently evil."

It's not.  Only in Ayn Rand comic books do people say such a thing.  Everyone, EVERYONE in government and industry is saying the same thing: "put America back to work, build the future, shovel-ready, incentivize small business, etc etc."

The problem with you guys is you're having this made up debate in your heads between people who want to stiffle innovation for its own sake and you, the brave heroic produces who have the courage to say A=A and live life as a man qua man whose life is oh my god it's coming out in buckets...wait...little headache here.  Okay back on track.

Anyway, no one out here, not conservatives, not liberals, no one, is saying "lets stop all innovation and punish everyone's success."  We're trying to figure out the best way to stimulate innovation and put people to productive work that they choose for themselves.  EVERYONE WANTS THAT.  We don't all agree on how to get there, but you are arguing with NO ONE.
04:52 PM on 04/12/2011
No stars! That's your comment on the movie. Shows how superficial your opinions are. I have read the book. I don't believe Mark has based on his comments. So somebody else has a right to our production and that is not evil- but having our own self interest in what we produce is. Big government represents the SELF INTEREST of the politicians in the guise of what's good for society. The point is it is our choice whether to donate our money or time to some cause. Nobody else can tell us what to do with our time or money no matter how ostensibly noble their intentions are.
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noteaforme
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05:06 PM on 04/12/2011
Yes, I can tell you what to do with your time or money if you want to live in a civilization and I'm supposed to share the same resources with you.
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notadumbblonde
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10:02 PM on 04/12/2011
Vehemently disagree...you do what you want with your earned money, I will do what I want with mine.
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JShankel
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10:18 PM on 04/18/2011
"Nobody else can tell us what to do with our time or money no matter how ostensibly noble their intentions are."

Too true.  Hence _Atlas Shrugged_ is tanking.
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12:22 PM on 04/12/2011
Before we get too deeply into this, may I make a suggestion? Everybody can of course comment as they please, but can you all indicate if you have A) actually read Atlas Shrugged, and B) actually seen the film? I have done A but not yet B (and since the film wont't be released until Friday that's most of us). Mindless attacks based on hearsay do nobody any good. It would be an extraordinarily difficult movie to film, and I'm curious to see how they did.
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noteaforme
The Tea Party parties like it's 1399.
05:04 PM on 04/12/2011
May I make a suggestion? Why don't you take your objectivism and put it where the sun don't shine.
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Tallulah Morehead
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06:04 PM on 04/12/2011
Now, now. He never said he was an objectivist, only that he'd had the misfortune to read this awful book (even if he forgot to mention what torture reading it was.) He (or she) said: "It would be an extraordin­arily difficult movie to film." This is a fact. Moreover, it is an IMPOSSIBLE book to make a GOOD movie from, as it would still be a movie of ATLAS SHRUGGED.
08:19 AM on 04/12/2011
No. John Aglialoro should have let it go. Instead of realizing he could not do it justice he should have let the rights go and chalked it up the curse of Rand. But instead he rushed to make it. and instead of a gorgeous epic film staring Jolie and directed by the likes of Vadim Perelman. You instead get the made for tv quality of a movie filled with complete unknowns set in modern day and directed by a guy whose only directing credit previously was an episode of One Tree Hill.

Sometimes you have to walk away from a project no matter how painful.. for your sake and the integrity of the project. Ask Terry Gilliam about Lost in La Mancha. He could have told him.

This apparently was always John Aglialoro personal dream more then it was making Rand's Atlas Shrugged a reality and actually doing it justice.
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06:06 PM on 04/12/2011
How can you insult Terry Gilliam by comparing his work to a movie of ATLAS SHRUGGED, which is garbage Gilliam wouldn't even relieve himself on? A hack makng a trashy movie out of a hack novel is hardly equivilent to Terry still tilting at Cervantes's Great Windmill of a book.
11:41 PM on 04/13/2011
It was the only disastrous attempt and abandoned film project I could think of! I know I know. Please forgive me!!!

I hate the politics of Atlas Shrugged and the multiple page long monologues but overall I enjoyed the novel (backs away carefully in shame). Since the teabaggers embraced it as some manifesto it is hard to admit I once enjoyed it.

What I meant to stress the most is Agliloro became so obsessed with it he just couldn't admit it was a bad idea that was impossible to execute and should never see the light of day.
11:59 AM on 04/19/2011
Because drilling, mining, manufacturing, refining, and many other industries are being over regulated. Public Sector work is glorified welfare. Private sector unions are demanding wages that are unsustainable in a global market. Public sector unions only survive by government fiat. Printing money whenever we need to repay a loan is fraud.

It is not observed. We are the most generous people in the world - but the government would rather demand we go through them to rather than churches or charities.

"Why is it assumed that producing something is inherently evil."

It's not. Only in Ayn Rand comic books do people say such a thing. Everyone, EVERYONE in government and industry is saying the same thing: "put America back to work, build the future, shovel-rea¬dy, incentiviz¬e small business, etc etc."

That is assumed on your part. You believe whatever the government spews out top you.

Not everyone wants that, but it is apparently fact to you. It is the government that stimulates innovation. They over regulate and over tax industries until it can no longer stay profitable. EPA, DOL, IRS, are not helping either. I am not sure why you believe government is the soultion. It is clearly the problem.

Can see why you like this site Shankel.
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05:33 PM on 04/11/2011
You're asking to turn a hysterical, overwrought book into a watchable movie?

Good luck, but I wouldn't blame the movie on the actors. I read that book, and my eyes kept rolling so much that I kept losing my place.
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johnminehan
04:42 PM on 04/11/2011
Tough to film any of the "Mega-books" of the period: the adoption of Ursis's Exodus focused on one period as did the adoptation of Michner's The Hawaiians; they have never filmed Michner's The Source, etc.
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Jay Ryan
04:24 PM on 04/11/2011
I applaud the lack of effort. Perhaps the CEOs were in charge of it...
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03:43 PM on 04/11/2011
i read the book many years ago. i remember thinking the philosophy expounded was one of selfishness, and inhumane. i could not read through the love-making parts of the book. the were cold, impersonal and also selfish. i do think our society is heading in this direction and it's good to revisit as a cautionary tale.
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09:56 PM on 04/11/2011
But it's not a cautionary tale. Rand APPROVES of, in fact venerates selfishness.
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Thomas Green
12:59 PM on 04/11/2011
I wonder if you would support a mass printing of The Anarchists' Cookbook and putting them in school libraries? The Anarchists' Cookbook is one of the most influential books of the 20th century!
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03:07 PM on 04/11/2011
Yes, I would but it's not in print. I liked Atlas but it's not a manifesto and it's certainly not my manifesto. It's a story, cautionary tale IMO. When knowing the author's political and societal leanings, unless the reader espouses the same beliefs a book only tells a story. I certainly don't admire Rand's politics but the book was well written and interesting. I feel the same about the Anarchists Cookbook, I'm not going to blow anything up but it was an interesting book. I am not manipulable enough to have a single book alter my beliefs. I might find intriguing ideas in books which would lead to further research but never "life altering". I was 18 when I first read Atlas and one could argue that 18 is an impressionable age but reading it didn't change me, I felt enlightened realizing there are people and ideas in the world like the characters in the book. I'm not afraid of differing ideas.
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09:55 AM on 04/12/2011
I disagree. It is a manifesto. For selfishness and greed under the guise of superior morality.
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Guytar
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10:06 AM on 04/11/2011
I read Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead decades ago just to impress my girlfriend.

That is my only defence, and I throw myself on the mercy of the court.
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11:58 AM on 04/11/2011
Case dismissed. The things we do for love...
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johnminehan
04:45 PM on 04/11/2011
The Fountainhead is a good novel about how someone who is deeply committed to his proffession lives his life, sort of like Sinclear Lewis's novel Arrowsmith. However, Rand appears to have done less research on architectutre than Lewis did on Medicine and medical research.
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06:59 PM on 04/11/2011
Not to mention her lack of research on engineering in Atlas
And a general lack of research on the Tragedy of the Commons.