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Mark Olmsted

Mark Olmsted

Posted: August 2, 2010 11:20 AM

Wingnuts in Space

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Being a non-violent anti-gun type, I can't encourage using "our second amendment rights" against these sorry excuses for human beings. But if I could banish them a la Superman II, I do think I would.

The only way to understand the frothing of the right and of the Tea Party is through a historical lens. Think about the South before the Civil War. Southerners weren't bad people. They'd just been raised not to "see" black people as equal human beings. It was not a philosophical choice they arrived at, it was a given in their reality. They questioned it no more than we question that a 12-year old shouldn't drive a car.

There was a lot of progress in the following century, but in this survey done about whether "negroes" should serve next to to whites in 1947, the results are appalling. A tiny minority supported the idea. (Thank God Truman ignored the majority and integrated the troops in 1948.) Even more shocking is the depth of their anti-semitism. Even after the horrors of the concentration camps, 86% of respondents agreed "There is nothing good about the Jews." 86%. This is "the greatest generation," the good guys we idolize as the embodiment of what is best about America. Nice, perhaps, to their wives and kids. Brave, certainly. But still racists and anti-semites. Not because they decided to be. It was just their unquestioned reality. There was nothing to challenge their perception until the Civil Rights movement changed it for them.

Now we have people who are so convinced they're not racists that they print up "Yup I'm a Racist" t-shirts listing 10 reasons "the government" calls them racist. Oh, I get it, they're being ironic! They think "we" on the left are so against the military, capitalism, safe borders, low taxes, free speech, guns, the bill of rights, and belief in Jesus Christ that we call them "racists" because we don't know how to refute their unassailable patriotic American and Christian convictions.

There really is no arguing with them, anymore than you could argue with a southerner in 1844 or a soldier in 1944. There is very little, if anything, that we can do or say to reach people who nod in agreement when Glenn Beck says Obama hates white people, or Rush blames the oil spill on environmentalists. They will keep believing what they need to believe, because seeing the world in its extraordinary complexity overwhelms them. So everything is dichotomized or simplified. America is good, Europe is bad. Christians are good, Muslims are bad. Guns are good, tree-huggers are bad. Black people whine too much and tend to freeload, and immigrants come here to steal our jobs and use social services. Homosexuals are icky and should stay in the closet. Low taxes are good and they don't cause deficits. There is no global warming. Universal health care is a socialist plot. And on and on and on.

I have a lot of objections to the way Obama has led, first and foremost his tendency to compromise first instead of at the end of a process of negotiation. I think the legislation he shepherded through--and there is a tremendous amount of it--is much weaker as a result. But it's clear that he always studies every single issue, and rarely makes any decision that isn't extremely well-informed. And for the right, this most sterling of qualities is exactly what they dislike the most.

Obama makes them feel stupid and they hate him for it. Bush was just like they were--uninformed, deciding with his "gut," black and white. Obama is not black, he's not white, he's both--the ultimate embodiment of a world that is a mixed and nuanced as he is. He continually challenges their need to be certain in this most uncertain of times, and the more uncomfortable they feel, the more they double down on their simplistic certainty.

I've pretty much concluded we just have to wait for history to swallow up these people as it marches in the same direction it's been going for the last two centuries. I expect when we finally have a Star Trekian society, genuinely color- blind and gender-neutral, then man will have to construct a race of trashy robots who are loud, stupid and vulgar, just so we can have someone to marginalize and make fun of. It could be that the need to think ourselves better than others is deeply embedded in human DNA.

 

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mommadona
I paint. I blog. Therefore, I am.
05:40 AM on 08/08/2010
"Never stand next to someone intent on shooting themselves in the foot"
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molonlabe
I rarely go full Wookie but own a whole suit.
03:21 PM on 08/03/2010
Part 2

Like it or not, Beck and Palin are the flavor of the year. Why? Well, their ideas might appeal to the extremists of the conservative camp, but there is also a bit of truth in some of what they say. But also, because Obama is not the man who campaigned on all that Hopey/Changey in '08. Look at his approval ratings. Are you saying that OVER 50% of American citizens just don't understand him or are closet racists? Disingenuous at best.

I'm vehemently pro-gun. But I'm also pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-weed, and a plethora of others which don't fit into your stereotype. Where do I fit in? I'll tell you where, right in the middle of the same people who listen to the Becks and Palins, but also have the capability to think themselves and not take 100% of what they say as gospel.

Nice try, but all you've done is show the same blatent intolerance of which you accuse others.
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Mark Olmsted
essayist, blogger, activist
05:16 PM on 08/03/2010
I am very willing to note that there is a center part of the electorate that picks and chooses from various policy positions of the left and right, particularly those who consider themselves libertarian first and everything else second.
My contempt is for the hard-right 30% that watches Fox news and takes the charlatan bloviating of Limbaugh and Beck et al. as the gospel truth. Would that they viewed it as "entertainment."
Congrats to you that you don't fit into the category. If that's the case, then your defensiveness is misplaced.
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molonlabe
I rarely go full Wookie but own a whole suit.
03:21 PM on 08/03/2010
Part 1

"They will keep believing what they need to believe, because seeing the world in its extraordinary complexity overwhelms them."

A very telling statement indeed. Precisely the disingenuousness which promotes the divide between Libs and conservatives. Obama is great, and everyone else who doesn't like him is either not educated enough to understand the complexity of the world today, doesn't understand his agenda, or is a racist.

Let's get something straight...most logical thinking people can take the Becks and Limbaughs of the world for what they are...entertainers with an agenda. Would it be correct for me to say that Olbermann or Matthews who don't understand a more libertarian or conservative view are just uneducated people who are more concerned about their right to do bong hits on lunch break than COTUS rights? No.
12:57 PM on 08/03/2010
Mark's column strikes me as paranoid and dismissive, the sort of piece someone who isn't accepted by society might write to explain why everyone else is wrong and he is right. Perhaps this derives from his background as a homosexual, HIV-positive drug dealer and convicted felon. But whatever the cause, his vitriol seems to be more about himself and his own self-loathing than any external group or philosophy.
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Mark Olmsted
essayist, blogger, activist
05:08 PM on 08/03/2010
Yes, I'm so ashamed about being a HIV+ homosexual convicted felon that I put it right out there in my biography, write about it extensively, am interviewed about it and spend an enormous amount of helping other addicts get and stay sober, not to mention maintain extensive correspondence with guys still on the inside.
But I couldn't fool you! You detected that I must actually despise myself and you saw through my elaborate subterfuge!
Why else could I possible object (so vitriolically, no less) to racism and anti-semitism except because I suffer from self-loathing?!
Do me one favor, Bambi. Run your little theory past your gay, HIV+, Jewish and black friends. What's that? You don't have any?
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Sheria Reid
07:31 PM on 08/03/2010
BambiB did you read the article? What's paranoid or dismissive about shining the spotlight on the history of racism and anti-semitism in the U.S.? Both have been historically documented. Mark raises the issue behind the consistent cries of the Tea Party members that they want their country back. Some of us wonder exactly where it is that they think that it has gone. It's a little hard for me to feel a nostalgic desire to return to the allegedly glorious past when women couldn't vote, signs proclaimed "No Coloreds or Jews Allowed," and where I could live, shop, play, have a meal, and attend school was restricted by law based on my skin color. I was born in 1955 and the good old days were not so good for all.
As for Mark, I've known him for years and I know very few people who are as comfortable in their own skin. Maybe you should take a look in the mirror. The sort of anger and negativity you express ususally masks some serious insecurities.
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SeaBlood
cynical about religion
12:47 PM on 08/03/2010
Let's face it. Our system has been a colossal success! The constitutional system ( with its handy dandy amendment application) has stood the test of time. We have had the same government since the 1790's------How many governments did France have? How many did Germany have? Not to mention the 20-40 odd governments that Italy hatched. All of which belies how gall darn lucky we've been! The founding fathers never intended it to be what it its now----with no slavery!-----with unemployment insurance! etc. I only hope our luck continues to holds out.
09:22 AM on 08/03/2010
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Freedom in economic arrangements is itself a component of freedom broadly understood, so economic freedom is an end in itself ... Economic freedom is also an indispensable means toward the achievement of political freedom. (something the left hates)





The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.--Justice Robert H. Jackson

(That naturally also includes the Second Amendment)
09:21 AM on 08/03/2010
Continued-----And indeed the environmentalists do have a role in the spill, (by using government and) forcing the oil companies to do their drilling so far away increasing the risks. And all technology has risks.

I think we should call out the left and pull a John Galt. The oil companies should cease all oil production PERIOD. See how long civilization lasts. There is ALWAYS going to be a need for chemical fuels. I am an engineer and won't bore you with details of classical thermodynamics, carnot and brayton engine cycles and and enthalpy and entropy--most of you have nowhere near the mathematics and physics to get it--but no battery, set of gears, flywheels and springs and solar panels will perform as an internal combustion engine can, and no plane will ever fly on solar power and batteries (except those little cutsie ones with the little bicycles attached carrying a guy and can list off all of 20 or 30 feet and travel at a speed of 15kts--but an airliner or fighter jet?--yeah, right!


continued---2
09:02 AM on 08/03/2010
Deficits are not caused by low taxes, they are caused by excessive spending. Most of it---UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Why don't we ask the Father of the Constitution, James Madison what he had to say about spending money for what is essentially charity--he had those in those day who seem to think it is ok to use the police powers of government to do what I cannot do and that is confiscate the earnings of one who earned it and give it another who did not and further argue that such theft by government is actually MORAL--but if I do it--guess where I get to go? So here is what James Madison said:

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."

Neither can I.


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05:12 PM on 08/02/2010
I don't really have anything to add here other than that I think you're right. There is no convincing these people of the reality of their words and actions. I bet you could talk to a guy carrying a sign portraying Obama as an African witch doctor and he would adamantly deny that he was a racist. "I'm not a racist! I just don't like the way he's taking our freedoms away!" In some ways, I suppose we have to laugh about it. It really has become so ludicrous that I'm finding them more funny than scary. If I think about it too much, I might get sad that our country has so many idiots in it.

As I think back to the election and afterwards, as well as the development of the loose coalition of teabaggin' folks, I'm trying to think of any that I've managed to convince to think otherwise. I honestly can't think of a one. Anyone I got to vote for Obama was genuinely uncertain about the pros and cons, and were open to alternative viewpoints. The teabaggers who are firmly entrenched in their beliefs won't change their ideas, although perhaps a devastating illness that brings them to the brink of bankruptcy might open their eyes a bit and get them to feel a little empathy. But I kind of doubt it. I've never seen a group so hell-bent on supporting those who oppress them. It's astounding.

Thanks for another great post!
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Sheria Reid
04:40 PM on 08/02/2010
The music teacher at the high school where I was a teacher once upon a time had a poster on her wall that proclaimed, "Don't ever try to teach a pig to sing; it will only frustrate you and anger the pig." It was a high school, so it had to refrain from any use of vulgarity but it cracked up students and faculty alike as we made mental substitutions for the more polite language. Your post made me recall the poster and come up with an alternative version, "Dont ever try to teach the Tea Party to think; it will only piss you off and make them become more adamant in their stupidity."
09:25 AM on 08/03/2010
Calling the tea kettle black eh? (no pun intended) They just like individual liberty--but they all thrive on competition. How much did YOU make last year--I did more than $90,000. I am an engineer. What do YOU do?

I also like government the way the founders did---SMALL.
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Mark Olmsted
essayist, blogger, activist
11:18 AM on 08/03/2010
The "founders" approved a constitution in which black people were consider 3/5th of a person, and women were not allowed to vote. To hold up their vision of government as it was conceived in 1776 makes about as much sense as a literal interpretaion of the Bible. I respect the genius of the structure of the Constitution, but part of that was the amendment system, and we need to respect all the addenda to the basic frame as having equal weight to the core. And none of it should be held up as sacrosanct. Human beings are flawed, they created flawed systems that reflect that.
As for the soulless nonsense of objectivism, save your breath. I read Ayn Rand at 15 and even then could tell it was blathering narcissism devoid of any real spirituality or kindness.
As for the demonization of government, I respectfully disagree. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-olmsted/we-the-people_b_506312.html
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Sheria Reid
07:02 PM on 08/03/2010
Since you asked, I'm an attorney. As for my income, I was taught that it was impolite to discuss one's income publicly. Btw, what's with the caps, didn't anyone ever teach you that shouting is rude?
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SeaBlood
cynical about religion
02:20 PM on 08/02/2010
To point out to the wing nuts that they are wrong is like waking up somebody who is sleep walking. You are likely to get hit. You have to wake them gently---extremely gently, with a whole lot of patience. Don't try to cram a whole program down their throats. Do it piecemeal, teaching them tiny amounts of science and logic------not too much or else they may regurgitate it all.
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Laws456
Don't believe the Hype
12:33 PM on 08/02/2010
Most of them do need to be banished to outer space. It would make life here much more pleasant. I like debating people and speaking with people who have different views than I do, but whenever you know your arguments are based on facts and evidence and the other side doesn't acknowledge that, then I have a problem. And that fact is what plagues most of today's Conservatives. No money for unemployment benefits, but we can pass a war spending bill for the same amount that is not paid for. The GOP runs around talking about repealing the health care bill because, according to them, a "majority" of Americans are against the bill. A majority of Americans are against the occupations, but they don't run around talking about bringing troops home or closing down some of these money burning military bases around the world.

I was going to start on the Democrats but I have to go and feed my son...
09:27 AM on 08/03/2010
It is also unconstitutional. What article would that be?

Lets see what the Father of the US Constitution says:

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
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Matt Osborne
12:04 PM on 08/02/2010
Yes. The stupid do not like being told they are stupid.
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Mark Olmsted
essayist, blogger, activist
10:15 PM on 08/02/2010
Though I have to say, Obama goes out of his way not to hold anyone in contempt or look down on them. What they have convinced themselves of is that intellectual superiority doesn't count for much. Hell, they don't think intellect counts for anything, period. Anyone who can wear a "Yup I'm a Racist" t-shirt is likely to think "stupid" (at least coming from a pansy pinko pinhead like me) is some kind of badge of honor. (And I have to admit, the same is true for me. I'd kill myself just to roll over in my grave if these people didn't think of me as the enemy.)