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When the Atheists Are Right

Posted: 06/06/2012 3:33 pm

Because I write as a Christian in favor of marriage equality, I receive a lot of correspondence from people who feel I'm mistaken. There seem to be a large number of suggestions, for example, that I will burn in a lake of flaming sulfur. I usually respond, as kindly as I can, if there is some hope of dialogue.

But then, last week, I received a letter that truly broke my heart. It did so, in part, because I know well the claims of atheists that religion does more harm than good in the world, and have often responded in the defense of faith. But there are some times that the harm done by religion is so clear that I doubt myself. A letter I received this week from "Kevin" presented me with one of those moments of doubt.

As with many other of my correspondents, Kevin responded to an article I wrote which was filled with references to the Bible by accusing me of ignoring the Bible -- a book that he reads to require condemnation by all of us of those who sin (at least so long as the sin is homosexuality).

After several paragraphs complaining of "the homosexual agenda" and "lifestyle choices," Kevin laid bare a real, awful, and certain tragedy:

Lastly, I can speak on this subject very clearly as I am the Father of a child that has chosen the homosexual lifestyle. Even now as I'm writing you this email, my son is lying in a hospital bed dying from his acts of homosexuality. His Mother and I raised him to know Christ, but as a young man he took up this lifestyle against our counsel. Because of his lifestyle and nothing else, he is now facing death. Just know that our sins are forgivable and God is a gracious and loving God, but he is very, very clear about the penalties, especially homosexuality. We are saddened and heart broken that our baby son is going to die such a horrible death and is suffering because of his decision to live the homosexual lifestyle. But we also know and knew what God say's about the wages of sin. The wages of sin are DEATH.

Sincerely,
"Kevin"

Perhaps the atheists are right. If religion, my religion, can twist the truth, the Gospel of love, to the point where a man expresses such hate to his own dying child, I despair of that religion.

I am still struggling with a response. My own beliefs are so different from Kevin's that I find it difficult to find an overlap, that small shaded area of a Venn diagram where my faith intersects with his.

Yet, we do read the same book. I do know that.

And there, in the Book of Luke, is the story of the prodigal son -- the younger of two, who demanded his inheritance and then squandered it through "dissolute living." He hits bottom, having run through the money, and resolves to return to his father and repent. However, before he has a chance to say anything, his father runs to him, puts his arms around him and kisses him. There is love there, before repentance, even in the apparent absence of repentance. There is love before all; that is what Christ directs us to do.

If Kevin's letter was honest, there is a boy dying whose father stands nearby in angry judgment, seeing that death as just and right. That scene is now etched in my head, a photo-negative of the manger scene of warmth and light and love, a reversal of the story God chose to write.

I do not want the atheists to be right, I do not want love to be diminished, I cannot bear to see us become a nation of angry Gods who must each impose judgment on one another, even denouncing our own children on their deathbeds. Not all who oppose gay marriage, of course, take this path, and many people take their position out of true religious conviction rather than a base prejudice bled clear of love. There are people of good faith and compassion on both sides of the marriage debate. Others, though, address this issue only in a language of judgment and anger. To those who preach the gospel of hate, of stark judgment, of demand and control, I invite you look upon the fruit of your work: an unbearably sad fate for two of the least of those amongst us.

By taking on God's task of judgment and condemnation even to his son's deathbed, is Kevin denying the existence of an extraordinary and loving God any less than the atheists, and with harsher consequence? If his view of God is right, of a God who tells us to harshly condemn that dying child, then the atheists are right -- we are better off without that God, to live alone in a Universe wrought by chance.

But perhaps his certainty is wrong. He reads the Bible and sees himself in the role of Jesus in John 8, telling the woman caught in adultery to "go and sin no more." That is not our role, though. There is a God, but it is not me. We are the people Jesus was talking to in John 8, where he teaches that "he who is without sin may cast the first stone" -- we are the people with the stones, being told to put them down, which is always the first step toward love. I hope that Kevin puts down his stone, and takes that first step toward being a true Christian father to his own dear son.

 
 
 

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Drg40
Representative Democracy is all we have.
09:09 AM on 06/27/2012
Sorry, but being a world class cynic, I think (without any evidence) that you're being strung along. I would want to know child's name and the hospital concerned before worrying for a moment and then only after I'd checked it out for myself. We get legions of these people every Sunday and each time I have checked out their harrowing tales every one is a lie from start to finish. It's what they do- tell lies for God, remember?
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grayplace
Life's a dream within a dream.
01:01 AM on 06/27/2012
It's sad tp say, but in so many ways, religion = prejudice and hate posing as morality and spirituality.
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ColleenHarper
Actions always have unintended consequences
11:03 PM on 06/26/2012
What does it say when a stranger offers love and acceptance, compassion and a loving hand outreached to someone dying, in this case, apparently of AIDS, and the person's own father refuses reconciliation and the loving hand in his child's last days? Who has known the love of Christ and giving the last blessing of Christ's love to the sick? Who stands firm in self-righteousness and condemnation?

I'm very sorry, but as an atheist, I become Mark Osler's example how his faith fails when it should rise and excel. If I were to look upon his son, I would not look at a man whose "sin is upon him" but I would look on someone who is struggling with life's last act, to depart in dignity, knowing that his life meant something to someone. I would stand in to let him know that his life did matter, that his death is a loss to those around him. I would do what I could to ease his grief and comfort him with love.

And when I step back after his last breath, I would wonder why his Christian family could not give what I gave, at no cost to myself, but for which I received the great reward of knowing that for a moment, I was truly human.
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grayplace
Life's a dream within a dream.
12:53 PM on 06/27/2012
Beautifully said.
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EinsteinsPickle
denouncing the hypocrisies of our times
06:09 PM on 06/26/2012
As an atheist, my primary problem with most religions generally, and Christianity and Islam in particular, is the certainty that far too many believers credit to their faiths, and the fact that many believers will ACT upon that certainty. For example, the intelligent design/creationist proponents claim that their "science" should also be taught in biology classes as an "alternative" to evolution.

But for the certainty that their religious beliefs are true (or the desperate need for them to be confirmed), it is unlikely that the ID proponents would try to interfere in the science classroom. This is dangerous for two reasons: (1) it degrades science education in the U.S., where it is already in need of repair; and (2) it degrades coherent public discourse on reality.

Sometimes there is no "other side" to an argument or proposition.
WishfulThinkingRulesAll
Your micro-bio is empty
05:44 PM on 06/26/2012
I don't know man, the Bible is a hodgepodge of rules and advice from different folks. The guys who wrote about Jesus made him mostly cool, sticking up for a prostitute and not dissing gays at all. But that Paul guy is a different story. So it all depends on where you look, don't it?
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cyranorox
I dare do all that may become a man
10:32 PM on 06/11/2012
Yes, good.
01:54 PM on 06/11/2012
Mr. Osler my concern is that on the day we all stand before our Creator Jesus Christ, there will be those who identified themselves as Christian but will be shocked when GOD declares "Depart from Me, I never knew you." Based upon the world view you have which has influenced your writings, you will be one of the unfortunate. GOD will never conform to us. We must conform to GOD! The holy Scriptures are the guide we all are to live by.
WishfulThinkingRulesAll
Your micro-bio is empty
05:45 PM on 06/26/2012
So which part of the scripture do you conform to when the scripture is at odds with itself? Or are you one of those special people who has worked it all out?
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flaconoire
Anartist
07:15 PM on 06/26/2012
I wont be standing (or kneeling) in front of anyone when I am on my way out. I will be alone.
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formerroadie
I am a liberal and proud of it!
10:35 PM on 06/10/2012
It saddens me when Christianity is used as a cudgel of hate.
A Jew with a View
Act justly, love mercy, walk humbly
03:13 PM on 06/10/2012
This is sad. My brother died of AIDS. I saw what his death did to our parents. It is a tragedy whenever a parent buries a child especially if you believe the death could have been avoided. My brother died because he had unprotected sex with with wrong person. He was proud of his promiscuos lifestyle (boasted of having sex with hundreds of different people). I too was angry: refused to visit him on his death bed, resisted going to his funeral (my wife talked me into going), refused to speak at his funderal. Though less angry today, he was not around when our father died nor is he here to help care for our mother or know his nephews, one of whom is named after him.

Kevin is a father who is hurting and angry. His son is dying. He needs to reconcile his love for his son whose actions he sees as contributing to his dying with his love of G-d who he holds resonsible as the Judge of all. His son's death though is not punishment by G-d. G-d said "Today I have set before you life and death. Now choose life" meaning make good decisions.

But what is needed is not what could have been but rather what to do now between a father and son to prepare for the inevtiable and ease the pain that each is experiencing today and after the death of Kevin's son.
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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
02:35 PM on 06/08/2012
I am not an atheist. I am "spiritual but not religious." So, the first thing I have to say is that I'm sick and tired of Christians saying that anyone who does not approve of religion is an "atheist." It just is plain not that simple!

Having said that, religion has been much more a force for divisiveness, torture, murder, bigotry, etc., etc. than a force for good. The bloody and intolerant history of the Church (see this: http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm for a rundown of a few of the Christian abuses) makes this clear. While Mr. Ostler may be a "liberal Christian," Christianity, as a whole, has done too much damage to society for it to be accepted as having anything to do with any theoretical "loving god" that may exist. It is long past time for this superstition to die a long-overdue death.
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godlessliberal0
blasphemy is a victimless crime...
01:38 PM on 06/08/2012
What I see here is yet another minor vindication of my atheism. While there may be differences between "Kevin" and Mr. Osler as far as conclusions reached, there certainly is no difference when it comes to their approach. The Bible was written by men who cannot be said to have had any more knowledge than I do. In fact, with advances in modern science and philosophy, the opposite could actually be argued. As one would expect of a series of books written by several different people, the total product is wildly self contradictory. What both Mr. Osler and "Kevin" both do is read the book selectively, picking and choosing the bits that jive with their personal philosophies and discarding, rationalizing, or ignoring the parts that don't. This is necessarily the case because it simply cannot all be true. The Bible, as with any book expressing such a variety of "truths," is simply a mirror. One might think it was designed that way as to not alienate and draw more to the flock. With the Bible, you can justify everything from slavery, genocide, and rape to the unconditional love and charity. The sooner we leave this crutch behind, the sooner true discussions of right and wrong and the nature of reality can take root.
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godlessliberal0
blasphemy is a victimless crime...
03:26 PM on 06/08/2012
That being said, while I obviously have much more in common with Mr. Osler than "Kevin," Mr. Osler has no more right to say that his understanding of the Bible is superior or that he is the "true" Christian than "Kevin" has. Also, I've noticed that certain kinds of Christians are not above inventing false scenarios on the anonymous internet to aggrandize their own piousness. A gay son on his deathbed due to what seems to be implied is AIDS? Does this not seem a little too convenient? If you can believe in a virgin birth though, why not...
06:45 PM on 06/26/2012
When we interpret any great work of art it shows us, not some absolute truth dictated by the artist, but a reflection of ourselves, of our character. In this regard the Bible is no different from a work by Raphael, Shakespeare or Mozart. Jesus said:

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." - Matthew 7:7,8

Speaking as an atheist myself, I find these words inspirational and motivational and because that's something I seem to share with a lot of other people (some much smarter than I, I'm sure), I'm pretty confident that they represent a healthy way to view reality, regardless of whatever else the Bible may say.

You're right, we could interpret the Bible to "...justify everything from slavery, genocide, and rape to the unconditional love and charity..." but, when we choose to allow them, not only do our interpretations allow us to see into our own hearts and minds but the interpretations of others allow us to see into theirs as well.
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Alex0393
Are you people for real?
03:11 AM on 06/08/2012
I'm sorry I see no hatred in this letter. I see a father who loves his son deeply and is torn up over what's happening to him. I see a father appealing to you and you publicly posting his letter so you can spew your self righteous opinion towards a man who knows a horror you cannot possibly begin to understand. I also see you holding up all Christians as being of the same mindset as this father. Basically what I see is a column that is as anti Christian as it is misguided and one that has a personal and self righteous agenda which is to make all Christians who believe in the Bible doubt themselves for believing the parts that my inconvienient to our daily comfort.
04:12 AM on 07/03/2012
When you consign someone other than you to burn for eternity, you call this love?
11:31 PM on 06/07/2012
Dear Mr. Osler,

I believe that you have misinterpreted the meaning of "Kevin's" words. You wrote, "...a man expresses such hate to his own dying child..." I don't read hate in what Kevin wrote. I read heartbreak. I read the reality that, despite his best efforts, Kevin cannot save his son. I read the outpouring of a man grieving over his son and powerless to save him. If Kevin believes that his son's sinful choices led to his desperate condition, who are you to judge this as hate or to pin this on religion?
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08:09 PM on 06/09/2012
it may not be hate, but unforgiving comes to mind
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Kris79
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11:30 PM on 06/07/2012
We all are eventually going to die, so we all pay for the wages of sin.
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Roselil
I believe in atheism
03:59 PM on 06/12/2012
What is sin?
Who defines sin and who but society has the power to define it?
Sin is defined by morale, which is different, sometimes only i vague nuances in many cultures.
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bokhattak
Novelist, Muslim, Nerd.
04:37 PM on 06/26/2012
You are operating under some assumption that death is a consequence of mis-deeds rather than the natural and normal culmination of life. We have a finite time to live because we are finite beings. That is simply a fact, not a judgment.
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Kris79
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10:04 PM on 07/05/2012
I agree with you but I am trying to make a point...religious zealots say the wages of sin are death so we all pay it b/c we all eventually die.
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Claude Hosch
A single bracelet does not jingle
10:54 PM on 06/07/2012
I would rather read the hateful word of Kevin than accept your perception of them. He quoted a lot of scriptures having to do with God's approach to sin, but being honest about what is in scripture is not hating. Stating God punishments for sin is not hating either. Misrepresenting scripture does more harm than honest quotes.

Kevin watching his son slowly die has to be painful, and moreso if it could have been prevented. Perhaps Kevin's expressions are the pain of watching a child die, rather than anger toward his child or anyone else. Perhaps he is blaming a condition for taking his son, but only he knows.

People in emotional pain scream and shout sometime; angry people scream and shout. A closed mind would never know the diference, or even ask which; just assume the worst.

"Truth, like a rose, has beauty and thorns"