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Will They Still Love Us Tomorrow? Women and the Foreign Policy Debate

Posted: 10/22/2012 10:29 am

Last week was "women's week" in the presidential debate, and the candidates fought over the girls in their stump speeches and at every stop afterwards. But Monday's face-off moves on to foreign policy, so the women in the binders and the equal pay issue will likely be tossed in the paper shredder along with last week's talking points. Foreign policy is "men's territory," meaning the talk will turn to terrorists, who-knew-what-when, and the ever-popular nukes 'n sabers. But should it?

Women ought to be front and center in any foreign policy debate. The plight of women in Afghanistan was one of the main justifications "W" gave for going to war in the first place. And after we demolished Iraq, much was made of the fact that women have equal rights with men in the new constitution (a perk U.S. women have yet to achieve). But the women in Afghanistan have gone backward in the last few years, and women all over the Middle East are suffering under Islamic fundamentalism. Even our nominal "ally," Pakistan, can't seem to locate the men who attempted to murder 15-year-old Malala Yousufzai for daring to say girls should be educated.

No society is safe as long as its women are not safe. No society can thrive, and no democracy can take hold when roughly 50 percent of its population is imprisoned under burqas and behind closed doors. Yet we tolerate and enable national leaders like President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan, who signed a law that legalized marital rape, forbade women to leave the house without permission and condoned the withholding of food from wives who refuse sex.

Here are a few more eye-opening facts:

  • Earlier this month a 20-year-old Afghan girl was beheaded by her in-laws for refusing to become a prostitute. Her mother-in-law and a hired man cut off Mah Gul's head in the province of Herat.

  • In July, the world was shocked by an amateur video of a burqa-clad woman sitting on the ground while a man standing a few feet away shot her nine times before a cheering mob. She had been falsely accused of adultery.

  • On October 19 Human Rights Watch sent a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, literally begging her to press the Afghan government on women's rights, and to provide funding to protect those rights that is comparable to the money for training Afghan National Security Forces.

Clinton has without doubt been a strong advocate for the women in Afghanistan, but it's not up to the Secretary of State, whoever she might be. We were all reminded in last week's debate where the buck stops. The guy at the top has to take leadership. Are either of the candidates ready to do that on the female issues in foreign policy?

Americans (including this one) are sick about the pointless war in Iraq that cost $4 trillion and 162,00 lives , and sick of the war in Afghanistan. We can't stay forever, and we can't completely dislodge the Taliban. But we can put some conditions on the corrupt government that looks the other way or pleads impotence against the Taliban abuse and murder of women and girls. The $16 billion in economic aid pledged by the U.S. and other allies can't come with no strings attached on the issues of women's safety, girls' education and money for women to thrive economically through the small business enterprises that could thrive with increased security, freedom to travel and the right engage in everyday commerce.

But will any of this matter to the boys on the stage on Monday, the moderator included? Will the word "woman" cross their lips at all except for "men and women in uniform?"

Don't bet on it. Women are so last week.

 
 
 

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06:20 PM on 10/23/2012
I would like to know why there isn't a discussion taking place in this election about the epidemic of women being raped in the military? Shouldn't we discuss the data on rape in the military and what is happening, or not happening, to change this? Imagine being discharged from the military with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder not because of the actual war but because your fellow soldier raped you and then those in charge try to sweep it under the carpet. This is a major issue that needs to be dealt with immediately.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
10:44 AM on 10/23/2012
"much was made of the fact that women have equal rights with men in the new constitution (a perk U.S. women have yet to achieve)."

Name ONE right that American men have that American women do not.

One?

And the "right" to sign up for selective service or else lose federal aid eligibility does not count...
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ennis438
08:05 AM on 10/23/2012
Too bad that W and the republican punkers care more about the rights of Afghan women than they care about the rights of American women.
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Andygirl A
angering at least one person a day since 1996
12:06 PM on 10/23/2012
it's simply a ruse to get us to go to war. I suspect they don't care about those women either.
10:56 PM on 10/22/2012
In Pakistan you mention how one girl was injured. Do boys even go to school in Pakistan? Probably not. School is something on the bottom of the list in many countries in Africa and the Middle East. Food, clean water, housing and survival probably tops the list. You're equating the ease of the push button lives led here with that area over there. We get daily reports of troops, insurgents and rebels dying. Those words are meaningless to us, automotons of no value. But a girl is wounded in Pakistan and suddenly it's a trajedy of epic proportions and something must be done. Why is that?

Millions men and boys get slaughtered in country after country. Millions of men and boys starve in country after country. Millions of men and boys don't go to school in country after country and the western world yawns.

The western media paints a picture of muslim women being trapped in burkas. If you actually talked to any muslim women the majority of them are horrified that western women strut about like animals in heat.

We have the highest crime rate, divorce rate, suicide rate, ect. We are the dregs, the very bottom of the moral barrel. We have no right to dictate to anyone about morality.
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amnholly
USAF combat veteran
07:19 PM on 10/22/2012
Someone please name one right in the US that women don't have that men do. Other than getting to use a urinal. Seriously.
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Andygirl A
angering at least one person a day since 1996
12:01 PM on 10/23/2012
well I'm pretty sure we can't vote yet. wait. no it's driving we can't do. no, we can't own property. wait. :)

I kid, but while we, as women, have gained many rights we never had, we're in danger of losing our reproductive rights. those are definitely in danger. and while the details are in debate, I believe that we still suffer from income inequality.

but losing rights and gaining rights are two different things, true. completely different issues.
03:07 PM on 10/23/2012
If you lose your reproductive rights, you'll be treated equal to a man. Men have no reproductive rights.
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amnholly
USAF combat veteran
04:56 PM on 10/23/2012
Thank you for at least admitting it. That comment in the article about US women not having equal rights was just nonsense. This is a major problem with modern western feminism: fighting battles that have already been won, griping about rights that women already have, demanding more when there is no more to give. And on the topic of reproductive rights, seeing as how men have zero rights when it comes to reproduction, even if women lose on that front they'll still be better off than men are in that area. Am I saying that women shouldn't have control of their bodies? No. Is the court system heavily skewed in women's favor? Yes. A man has no say in reproduction but he'll be on the hook for it nonetheless. Fair? Hardly. Contraception is both gender's responsibility and should be covered under health insurance. The fact that that is even up for debate in a supposedly advanced nation is simply appalling. The male birth control pill would be a major help in preventing unwanted/accidental pregnancies so why don't we have it yet? There is plenty wrong with the system, for both genders. But constantly howling about "equal rights" does nothing except take the spotlight off the real issues and delegitimizes any valid argument feminists may have.
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amnholly
USAF combat veteran
07:18 PM on 10/22/2012
Earth to delusional feminists: foreign policy DOES affect women, just as much as it does men. So does the economy or any other nationwide topic. Are you upset the debaters don't address you by name? Get over yourselves.
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Andygirl A
angering at least one person a day since 1996
12:03 PM on 10/23/2012
I agree that foreign policy does affect all of us, regardless of gender. what I do think the article was trying to say, however, is that global women's rights need to be discussed and I think that's true. we have gained so much in the US where a woman in another country can still be stoned for kissing.
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amnholly
USAF combat veteran
08:35 PM on 10/23/2012
Well I'm not a supporter of the US World Police stance. I understand why our wars are fought and what determines our foreign policy and it has nothing to do with the lies that are fed to the American public. Some people in other countries have it worse than people in the US, for certain, and some have it better. The US isn't going to stick its nose in other states' affairs unless it benefits the US. But this article was clearly talking about wanting the debate in this country to revolve around women more, and specifically US women.
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amnholly
USAF combat veteran
07:15 PM on 10/22/2012
Wow. Cuz if we aren't talking specifically about women 24/7, it's a problem? Good grief. And women don't have equal rights with men in the US? How so? Sounds like someone has been drinking extra kool-aid today.
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
06:41 PM on 10/22/2012
Women have taken enough crap for far, far too long. We need a rebirth of radical feminism.
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Joanne TostiVasey
National NOW Board Member
05:43 PM on 10/22/2012
Women and children are the majority of the victims of war around the world. Eighty percent of all refugees are women and children. They are also the majority of the victims of mine explosions. Many women are raped and/or maimed as a result of these wars. Here in the US, we still have not ratified the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD), the Convention to End Discrimination against All Women (CEDAW), and the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC). If I were the moderator of tonight's debate I'd ask two questions related to this:

1. As president what will you do to ensure the safety of women and their families in war-torn countries?
2. What do you plan on doing to ensure that the United States ratifies and conforms to CEDAW, CRC, and CRPD to ensure that the rights women, children, and people with disabilities are upheld both here in the US and around the world?
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amnholly
USAF combat veteran
07:24 PM on 10/22/2012
Know the reason why most refugees are women and kids? Because the men are killed outright. Yeah, the men are soo much better off.
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Andygirl A
angering at least one person a day since 1996
12:08 PM on 10/23/2012
I don't think it's a battle about who is better off. it shouldn't be anyway.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
10:52 AM on 10/23/2012
Those sound like serious problems for women.

If only modern feminists weren't so busy standing outside of golf courses...maybe those girls could be helped...
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04:32 PM on 10/22/2012
Martha Burk says "Women ought to be front and center in any foreign policy debate." They are, aren't they?

Three of the last four Secretaries of State have been women, and among the most militaristic individuals to hold that position. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/militarization-of-the-mot_b_1512297.html

Burk also says: "The plight of women in Afghanistan was one of the main justifications "W" gave for going to war in the first place." There is a great deal of commentary about Afghanistan being the first "feminist war" and certainly Hillary Rodham Clinton's leadership in advocacy for the futile, deadly escalation in that war ("the surge") seems consistent with that view.

http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/ben-goddard/63135-bob-and-hillarys-escalation
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/12/05/why-feminists-love-the-surge.html?cid=hp:originalslist1
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dan-ehrlich/afghanistan-feminist-war-the-first-fem_b_1349217.html

Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State had been given great credit for advocating and orchestrating intense use of military force to produce violent regime change in Libya, and installing a "rebel-led" government there, UNTIL we saw unmistakable evidence that that nation has fallen into anarchy and become a magnet and haven for terrorists targeting Americans. Mrs. Clinton and her department have a direct responsibility for "ensuring the protection of the U.S. Government to American citizens, property, and interests in foreign countries ..."http://www.state.gov/secretary/115194.htm
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William Diaz
Passive-Aggressive word salad tossed here!
04:08 PM on 10/22/2012
If women feel powerless as a group, they only have themselves to blame. They comprise a majority of the electorate and should have the ability to push their own agenda on politics as a whole.

The AARP is a much smaller chunk of the electorate, but they vote. Their voice is heard, because politicians that ignore them get punished for their hubris. They vote and it makes all the difference in their political power.

Women need to vote and they need to punish those politicians that ignore, belittle or forget them. Because politicians are able to get away with turning their backs on the needs and issues that women find important, they will continue doing that. When politicians begin to lose elections because of their opposition to women's issues, then you will have their attention.

The 19th Amendment gave you all the weapons you need to make your power felt, use it.

Have a great day!
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faust2001
I sold my soul for rock 'n roll.
03:19 PM on 10/22/2012
What if every woman in America voted for Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate?
02:09 PM on 10/22/2012
Only 2 comments on this article? Is it any wonder the candidates won't be talking about us?
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OnMySoapbox
Would the GOP even pull the plug on Jesus?
01:42 PM on 10/22/2012
Why would any women vote for Romney? He will set womens rights back to the 1950's. If women let this happen, then they deserve the consequences.
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KingCashio
A wise man once said, "What's going on?"
02:41 PM on 10/22/2012
If they vote Romney in, I will have to think long and hard about supporting women's issue going forward.

Honestly, if they can't be bothered why should I be?
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OnMySoapbox
Would the GOP even pull the plug on Jesus?
06:32 PM on 10/22/2012
Agreed. If women let Romney win, it will be the last time I champion for women's rights. 
gotch
..just having my say...
01:03 PM on 10/22/2012
Great read on how women are involved in EVERYTHING. Whoever becomes president should remember this. Wishin' it's OBAMA.