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Martin Varsavsky

Martin Varsavsky

Posted: January 15, 2011 02:46 AM

While I am sorry for the repression and the people who have died in Tunisia, I am excited at the unexpected overthrow of Tunisian dictator Zine El Abidine Ben Ali by its own people.

I have visited the country a few times as well as many other Arab/Muslim countries (Syria, Lebanon, Morocco, Egypt, Palestinian territories). Most Muslim nations have rulers for life and it's nice to see that for once, a corrupt dictator who has been in power since 1987 was thrown out, not by U.S. military intervention but by popular rebellion. And as this article explains it took American diplomats and Wikileaks efforts to reveal what many Tunisians suspected and that is the extent of the government's corruption and abuse to help ignite the overthrow. Now the paradox here is obvious. The U.S. spends hundreds of billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of human lives are lost in a bloody military intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq with very little success in establishing grassroots change. And instead, U.S. diplomats telling a detailed story about corruption in Tunisia and a group of determined journalists at Wikileaks and Bradley Manning help accomplish what a decade of military intervention in the Middle East could not: a popular uprising against corruption and dictatorship. Yes, the realities of Afghanistan, Iraq and Tunisia are different and most credit goes to the Tunisian people themselves. Yet, as this New York Times article explains, many in the Arab/Muslim world are watching Tunisia and wondering how long will they put up with their own "Ben Alis". Especially in nearby Egypt.

It is interesting though that it took a combination of angry Tunisians, Wikileaks, U.S. diplomacy, a dissident soldier and social media to ignite the rebellion. Most likely if it had been Hillary Clinton alone telling the Tunisian people how corrupt Ben Ali was, it would have backfired. What US fails to see is that change is possible but the most USA can do is move the needle, not "build nations". I think the State Department should learn a lot from Tunisia and rethink Wikileaks, cellular networks, social networks, and the power of the raw truth when dictators lose control of the popular message.

I do recommend to read the original documents that Wikileaks exposed about Tunisia to understand the anger of the Tunisian people.

 

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Firas Al-Atraqchi
Journalist, assoc professor, musician; sci-fi geek
10:36 AM on 01/18/2011
"It is interesting though that it took a combination of angry Tunisians, Wikileaks, U.S. diplomacy, a dissident soldier and social media to ignite the rebellion."

Incorrect.

Wikileaks and US diplomacy had nothing to do with it. I have spoken with many Tunisians over the past few days and all resent that some in the media are pushing the Wikileaks link.

What we saw in Tunisia is the result of years of brutal repression and state control.

Unemployme­nt, flawed economic policies, state corruption sparked the street protests. The Tunisians did not wait for Wikileaks to come along and tell them what they have for decades known. Nor were they inspired by Iraq's democracy, as some media pundits have claimed.

Let us not pave over the sacrifices of brave people who stood for change in Tunisia.

The protests started in the town of Sidi Bouzid when Mohammed Bouazziz, a university graduate who could not find work and was operating a vegetable stand, had his wares confiscate­d by the police because he did not have the proper paperwork. He burned himself out of frustratio­n and protest.

His death is the spark which caused the snap that broke Ben Ali's back. The protests grew and spread throughout Tunisia thanks to a strongly organized social media campaign ...

Arab repressive government­­­­s are going to try and learn what they can from this. But the die is cast; the oppressed, the disenfranc­­­­hised are fed up ...
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
07:41 AM on 01/18/2011
Excellent article and commentary....thank you so much!
10:46 PM on 01/16/2011
A very few people at the top of Tunisian society held all the wealth. I wonder where else that happens?
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GandenT
08:31 PM on 01/16/2011
Doesn't most of our military intervention take the form of propping up dictatorships by providing military aid?
06:28 AM on 01/16/2011
It's good that Wikileaks had some role to play in removing the Tunisian dictator. But most of the released cables described malfeasance on the part of the USA. When are we going to see our domestic perpetrators removed?
03:50 PM on 01/16/2011
There is no evidence that wikileaks played any role in the events in Tunisia.

The claim by Vravasky can not be substantiated. I am a strong supporter of Wikileaks but it is misleading to write that Tunisians revolved because of that.

The events in Tunisia were trigged by the public self-burning of a Tunisian citizen who was refused a permit to sell food on the street in one of the Tunisian cities.

Mr. Vravasky should stop making stuff up and spreading misinformation.
11:20 PM on 01/15/2011
What about Honduras, Guatamala, Iraq, Panama, Afghanistan, Georgia and much of Central and South America and all the dead millions and all the billions of enemies? What a lack of diplomacy! Boy, we sure could have used WikiLinks, cellular and social networks to defeat all our insane corporate driven, hubris-ridden foreign policy all these decades. Boy, are we lucky we have all this new stuff. Now all we need are some brains and foresight, humiltiy and national planning. Ooops! But where does that come from? Not here and and, as we see from our President, Congress, Senate, Supreme Court and the majority of our citizenry, it never will.
06:32 AM on 01/16/2011
Au contraire. The diplomacy worked as intended. The goal was to optimize profits for the upper 2% who control this country, and it worked perfectly. The fact that the middle and lower classes paid for these misadventures, with treasure as well as their lives, was irrelevant to the decision-makers.
10:59 PM on 01/15/2011
This had nothing to do with wikileaks, tweeter, cell phones, or any such things. It had to do with people demanding better for themselves, and a trigger, the rest were incidental. By now, Mubarak in Egypt should be thinking if he wants to transition to democracy, or pack up in 24 hours and leave town when the time comes. By the way the wikileaks document sounded more like "there a no good successor dictator in Tunisia we should start looking for one."
03:50 AM on 01/18/2011
I think you will find that Mubarak and some of the others (our allies) already have money in numbered bank accounts and private jets fueled and ready to go.
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blutopie
no longer 'chosen'
09:01 PM on 01/15/2011
'America loves corrupt countries' - that's why it's supporting Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabi. It loves corrupt countries because it can CONTROL corrupt countries

good new video of Robert Fisk on The Real News, discussing Pakistan primarily but touching on this larger problem

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/seyret/?task=videodirectlink&id=8831
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marknez21
09:40 PM on 01/15/2011
Please add Kuwait, Dubai, Bahrain,....
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KOisGod
Pay attention, YES-YOU
08:35 PM on 01/15/2011
Iran is next.
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marknez21
09:42 PM on 01/15/2011
Depends on the Atomic Talk.
I thing Egypt and Saudis are next
11:02 PM on 01/15/2011
How did you come up with that? LOL
05:52 PM on 01/15/2011
u are mistaken.

i think Zine El Abidine Ben Ali was kept in power for so long becuase of the united states.

When neighbouring Algeria voted for people America did not like in elections in 1992, America supported a military takeover. 100 000 people died.

The Tunisian people saw what happened in Algeria , and knew that they had no chance to stand up to Zine El Abidine Ben Ali becuase America and France would not support the people.

The overthrow of Zine El Abidine Ben Ali is due to America's failed policies caused by the Afghanistan and iraq misadventures and the goldman sachs economic policies of greed. America was unable to save Zine El Abidine Ben Ali becuase America's best minds are stuck in Pakistan and Yemen. 30 years of American policy to keep a dictaotship in Tunsia has gone up in flames yesterday. France did not let Zine El Abidine Ben Ali land becuase there couple hundred thousand tunisians and north africans living in France. If Zine El Abidine Ben Ali landed in Paris, these people would have prtoested and brought down the French government
08:22 PM on 01/15/2011
You are right!!!!!
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marknez21
09:53 PM on 01/15/2011
You are absolutely right. US support all DICTATORS all over the world. During 1950's when Iran had a democracy, CIA and MI-6 over- through Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh and put a dictator (Shah) to power. In Middle East we support all DICTATORS.
In Afghanistan and Iraq we have lost, these are two longest war that we have. In afghanistan we fight with an IDEOLOGY, it is impossible to win an defeat an IDEOLOGY. Russian they lost this war and they have left. In Vietnam we couldn't defeat IDEOLOGY and we lost that war. I hope we change our policy throughout that region, and win the HEARTS and MINDS of those people.
04:48 PM on 01/15/2011
US diplomacy certainly had no part in this revolution, and no US official, especially Hillary Clinton, was in the least bit interested in the Tunisian people's longstanding struggle for liberty.
Wikileaks and Twitter may have played a minor part in this popular triumph, but the victory was a long way coming, and the struggle against Ben Ali started before anyone had heard of either of them. What is conspicuous is how antagonistic US statements actually were towards the demonstrators and how sympathetic they were to the government--that is, until it was clear "our guy" was done for, after which our government remembered the "dignity" of the Tunisian people.
Perhaps you should stick to entrepeneuring and leave the professoring to people who know what they're talking about.
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Eric Ehrmann
Blogs on sports and politcs from Brazil
04:47 PM on 01/15/2011
Your efforts to give credit to digital democracy and WikiLeaks for waking up America's foreign policy establishment and some other nations who revolve around it are somewhat overstated since if one looks into the background of the former Tunisian leader, he received an extensive amount of intelligence and security training from US agencies, enough of such that among old school Foggy Bottom types he might even merit the monicker "our boy. The greater question is when will the other dominoes fall in the Maghreb. Kaddafy has internal struggles, Mubarak is an accident waiting to happen. Tunisia's flashmob for democracy was no accident, bubbling under the radar and online media curators for some time. But to give the lions share of the credit to Assange, Pvt. Manning and Silicon Valley tech toys for making it happen is tweet too far.
04:40 PM on 01/15/2011
With all due respect to the author and as an Arab I don't think he has a clue of what he is talking about.

So the Tunisian revolution was triggered by the Wikileaks documents about corruption in the country? I mean really? no one knew about it??

This is an insult to the people of Tunisia who have endured for years the authoritarian rule of Ben-Ali and his wife's clan. But wait, they didn't know until the light came from the US state department.

Here is some news for Mr Varsvksy.

Two books on Ben-Ali "Notre Ami Ben-Ali" (2001) and on his wife "la regente de carthage" (2009) were published by two leading French journalists who exposed in detail the Tunisian regime few years back.

And yes the books were banned in Tunisia but guess what: they having been available on the web for anyone to download and read.
10:36 AM on 01/16/2011
The article coordinates nicely with the U.S. State Department's latest talking points: it is too late to thwart the revolution, so they are trying to co-opt it.
04:20 PM on 01/15/2011
In this country we have the military-corporate-corruption complex,
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
07:48 AM on 01/18/2011
sad but true....some democracy when we have elections on weekdays and less than 50% turn out to vote///
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
03:26 PM on 01/15/2011
The idea that a country can establish democracy in another country by invading and occupying it has been around for decades. Whether employed by the Soviet Union in Eastern Europe or the US in Iraq, it always proves wrong. Democracy comes from within.