Hitler Aides "Puzzled," "Saddened" by von Stauffenberg Assassination Attempt

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Wolf's Lair, Prussia, July 21, 1944 -- "This isn't the Claus von Stauffenberg I knew," said puzzled SS Reichsfuhrer Heinrich Himmler about today's unsuccessful assassination attempt on Adolf Hitler, echoing sentiments heard across the Nazi high command.

Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels was equally perplexed. "If Claus disagreed with the Fuhrer, why didn't he say something?" said Goebbels. "He had plenty of opportunities to speak up."

"I had lunch with Claus just a month ago," noted Party chancellery head Martin Bormann. "I thought I knew him. We were colleagues. Friends. He didn't have a single negative word to say about Hitler. Sure, he was pissed at [Josef] Mengele, but that you could understand. This is so -- so sad. So disappointing."

Luftwaffe general staff chief Werner Kreipe was less circumspect. "Total scheisse [crap]," he called von Stauffenberg. "He owed everything to Hitler. Trying to kill him was a complete betrayal of his trust." Asked why von Stauffenberg turned against Hitler, Kreipe's only comment was, "Follow the money."


 
 

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- gaebolgaes See Profile I'm a Fan of gaebolgaes permalink

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 05/30/2008
- KarateKid See Profile I'm a Fan of KarateKid permalink

LMAO. This is good stuff. Bravo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 05/30/2008
- eplebneesta See Profile I'm a Fan of eplebneesta permalink

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. The headline alone gave me a glowy, Paxil(r)-like happy.
If there was a Nobel Prize for Humor, this would win.

From 2002 (I know, I'm slow):

What's the difference between Bush and Hitler?

One is a bloodthirsty dictator intent on depriving citizens of basic civil rights.

The other had a funny little mustache.

EPN
Beware the Red State Menace

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 05/30/2008
- Pyrrhus See Profile I'm a Fan of Pyrrhus permalink

I think another parallel is to the "Mr. Hilter" skecth on Monty Python.

Hilter had "Von Vibbentropp" crank out an applause record on a player in the breaks between Hilter's speeches, and set him through the "crowd" saying, "He's right- you know that?"

The reactions to all this remind me of that sketch- cheap, transparent, and just unbelievable. AND lacking any humor, unlike the Python sketch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 05/30/2008
- BigGuy See Profile I'm a Fan of BigGuy permalink

It's totally unfair to compare W's administration to Nazi's.

It's unfair to the Nazi's.

Their numbers were reliable. They kept track of their crimes and didn't falsify things internally.

The right comparison for the Right is to Stalin. In fact, much of W's gov't is run just like the Soviet Union was. Nearly every department and agency has a political affairs officer whose responsibility is to see that bureaucrats adhere to the ideology of the Right -- which is wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 05/29/2008
- Decipherer See Profile I'm a Fan of Decipherer permalink

Another big difference between the pathetic Bush administration and the Nazi regime is that if you screwed something up as a German government official, you paid some pretty heavy dues.

In "BushWorld(tm)," you screw up and you either get promoted or a big ol' attaboy ("you're doing a heckuva job, Brownie!).

Of course, a similarity between the Nazi regime and BushWorld(tm) is the fact that Reichstag was Hitler's legislative lapdog, and of course, the U.S. Congress was Bush's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 05/30/2008
- beaupritchard See Profile I'm a Fan of beaupritchard permalink

Well witten ... understated ... to the point. The sad news is unlike the hitler regime ... this administration is going to get away with its war crimes. In fact ... imagine

Goebbels running for Fuhrer on the Hitler platform ... a little like McCain running for President on the Bush platform.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 05/29/2008
- Stirner See Profile I'm a Fan of Stirner permalink

Yes, satire aside, we are well on the way to what Ron Paul terms "soft fascism" -- I suspect it will get a bit harder as time goes on. A nation of religious bigots and sheep is the perfect medium from which a dictatorship can emerge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 05/29/2008
- ProudNeoCon See Profile I'm a Fan of ProudNeoCon permalink

Why liberals complain when people use Barack's middle name yet find it compleatly ok to compare Bush to Hitler?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 05/29/2008
- stevea66 See Profile I'm a Fan of stevea66 permalink

Wow. All of this is amazing to me. For many months I have been amazed at the lengths to which educated people will go to win office. Hillary - please step back and take an honest look at what you are doing. McCain - I believed (for a moment or two) that you didn't play by the same republican playbook as everyone else - oh, well. Putting a counter on your website to count the days Obama hasn't been in Iraq? Please! Perhaps we should put a counter on the number of photo ops you have taken when you could've been solving problems.

But I have the real gauge by which to make your voting decision: Ask yourself this question. Who would I want to babysit my child for many hours, without supervision? There's only one candidate I would entrust with such an important task - that of protecting my child's self-esteem. Obama. Sorry - just don't trust the other two to put aside their own egos long enough to make my kid feel good about himself. Think about this one. Truly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 05/29/2008
- ProudNeoCon See Profile I'm a Fan of ProudNeoCon permalink

I actually had similar test in Cinton years. that is why I never could vote for him - can not vote for a man I can not leave with my daughter alone.

I would never leave my child with Hilary. I would leave her with both McCain and Obama. I like and respect Obama as a person (that respect taken a hit over the past few months - but he us still up there). However, I disagree with him on too many policies to vote for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 05/30/2008
- Pyrrhus See Profile I'm a Fan of Pyrrhus permalink

Dude, you're using the wrong litmus test. Isn't it supposed to be "Who would you rather have a beer with?"

Actually, the answer would still be Obama. Nevermind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/29/2008
- guajiro See Profile I'm a Fan of guajiro permalink

The perfect sheep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 05/29/2008
- Pyrrhus See Profile I'm a Fan of Pyrrhus permalink

Hey don't you have important planning to do for your upcoming play "Springtime for Bush"?

"Springtime for Bush and the Neocons!"

"Winter for Iran and Dean!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 05/29/2008
- DatelessNerd See Profile I'm a Fan of DatelessNerd permalink

Learn more about "satire" at your local library.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 05/29/2008
- ProudNeoCon See Profile I'm a Fan of ProudNeoCon permalink

So if someone put up satire on Barack using Bin-Laden as a subject, you would have no problems? please...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 05/30/2008
- Pyrrhus See Profile I'm a Fan of Pyrrhus permalink

How can he? They've burned all the books

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 05/29/2008
- jotunloki See Profile I'm a Fan of jotunloki permalink

The basic tenets of neo-conservatism are identical to those of fascism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 05/29/2008
- lovethesinner See Profile I'm a Fan of lovethesinner permalink

Another great one, Marty. Let's make sure the Russians don't run off with the bones like they did last time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 05/29/2008
- HarveyArdman See Profile I'm a Fan of HarveyArdman permalink

You have to appreciate the skillful writing here--just enough, not too much. Admirable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 05/29/2008
- Ihaveadream See Profile I'm a Fan of Ihaveadream permalink

Excellent. Alex Jones made the comparison in 2004 when Time Magazine selected smirky as person of the year. The portrait on the Time cover didn't even look like him. Hitler was person of the year in 1938

Here's the link to infowars.com comparision
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.infowars.com/images2/hitler_bush.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/time_selects_bush_person_of_year.htm&h=329&w=500&sz=47&hl=en&start=13&um=1&tbnid=IX5G1-vS7nRjDM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhitler%2Bbush%2Bcomparison%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3Dzp8%26sa%3DN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 05/29/2008
- AnnoyedCanuck See Profile I'm a Fan of AnnoyedCanuck permalink

HA! Thanks for this. I laughed aloud.

Come to think of it, weren't Julius Caesar's attendants and flunkies similarly shocked with Brutus?

"This isn't the Brutus I know", said Posca, Caesar's loyal slave, echoing the sentiments of many of the Dictator Perpetuus's followers after the assassination.

"Total merdae", raged one Roman centurion after Brutus' oration in the Forum. "Geez, what's his beef? I mean, he could have just levelled with Caesar and said didn't like the guy becoming king. Instead, we're looking at a civil war!! These jerks will end up finishing off the Republic for good!! Unbelievable!!"

Another citizen in the Forum concurred. " 'As Caesar loved me, I weep for him; but as he was ambitious, I slew him??' What the hell does that mean?? What gall! These guys were bosom pals for years. And now Brutus kills the guy because he was 'ambitious'?!? What's the matter with ambition, anyway?? Brutus comes off like some kind of bleeding heart democratic orator. Sorry, I'm not buying."

"I don't get it", said Mark Antony before beginning his funeral oration, "I thought Brutus was an honourable man. So were they all, all honourable men. I was at a banquet with Brutus just a couple of weeks ago. We went to the vomitorium together after the pasta course, and he had only good things to say about Caesar. This is so sad. I'll always be Brutus' friend on a personal level, but I'm really disappointed."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 05/29/2008
- glaze See Profile I'm a Fan of glaze permalink

Very worthy piling on, my Canadian Friend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 05/29/2008
- JerseyBob See Profile I'm a Fan of JerseyBob permalink

Such a true friend was Brutus. At Brutus' suggestion the Decider (Caesar) allowed the Senate Surgeon to examine him to insure that he indeed have a "Long Live the Decider" life. Brutus actually wanted the Surgeon to get to the root of a fault in the Decider"s thinking. The Decider slipped into a deep sleep after the Senate Anesthesiologist administered several bottles of red; Brutus held his hand all the while. Brutus loved the Decider. He loved him and wanted to save him not kill him.

The Surgeon started to prep the Decider's bum for surgery. Brutus asked him what he was doing. "I want you to get to the seat of the Decider"s problem-a problem with his thought process." The Surgeon readied an anal probe for an exploratory run, saying, "That is exactly what I am proceeding to do.".

Well, as we know the operation didn"t work. So misunderstood was Brutus. He wasn't the Brutus the guys in the forum thought he was. Lonely being Brutus around those guys; never asked to go to a meeting. Just orate they said. Orate.

Brutus asked for the royal tear vial so that some of his tears could be captured and preserved for all to see and know that he, Brutus, truly loved and truly grieved. He remembered how the Decider would stare at the monkeys bought in from Africa saying, "I think I know these guys. I think I can see into their souls." Oh, Brutus wept!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/29/2008
- aleco See Profile I'm a Fan of aleco permalink

Funny stuff. This would make a great SNL skit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 05/29/2008
- Z - He is Alive See Profile I'm a Fan of Z - He is Alive permalink


A little "historical context" is what we need more of today. Thank you, Marty!

We hope McClellans"s explosive book is more successful than von Stauffenberg's muffled briefcase explosion. I hope I am not so naive to think that journalists and other enablers of this Administration finally come clean and recognize what they have wrought upon us and the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 05/29/2008
- elbzee See Profile I'm a Fan of elbzee permalink

I think we'll see more and more. The emperor's been declared stark nekkid. His enablers are finally figuring it out that they're in BIG shit. Best to bare your chest and confess your sins to save yourself!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 05/29/2008
- jhNY See Profile I'm a Fan of jhNY permalink

Thanks for the big laugh I got out of this one!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 05/29/2008
- navalflightofficer See Profile I'm a Fan of navalflightofficer permalink

Interesting - on this same page someone takes Fox News and the Rebublicans to task for bashing Senator Obama about the Auschwitz or Buchenwald gaffe...
Yet here we are cheering an idiot who compares President Bush to Hitler.
Why am I a Democrat again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 05/29/2008
- TheIndependenceParty See Profile I'm a Fan of TheIndependenceParty permalink

Yep, NFO, ... Bush has shredded the Bill of Rights, called the Constitution, which he took an oath to uphold, a "Damn piece of Paper", lied us into a war he is leaving behind for whomever comes next, and should have been impeached for any of a hundred significant violations of his oath of office. Obama was not even born when his Great Uncle freed Buchenwald. His failure to "remember" which camp it was does not reverse the evil which was both Auschwitz AND Buchenwald. Can you spell "GUANTANOMO", OR "ABU GHRAIB"? Those will be Bush's legacy. Even our grandchildren will learn of the atrocities committed in those places and in other "black sites" built in our names around the world.

On the other hand, ... GHWB said the worst sort of traitor was the sort that betrayed a secret intelligence officer of the US, ... as his son did intenmtionally.

Your loyalty, sir, is misplaced. It is the Nation and the Constitution that deserve your respect by the oath of your commission as an officer. The president, particularly the knuckleheaded fool we have now, has nothing to do with it!

That is, sir, where the comparison draws damned close to Bush being at the very least a fascist, ... like Mussolini or Franco. "Same as Hitler, ..."? we'll see. He still has a few months to make a bigger mess of the world.

The Democratic Party will take you back, I suspect. Just ask nicely!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 05/29/2008
- jotunloki See Profile I'm a Fan of jotunloki permalink

There is no comparison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 05/29/2008
- SamWainwright See Profile I'm a Fan of SamWainwright permalink

Hilarious!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 05/29/2008
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