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Posted: March 26, 2010 01:28 PM

How Dumb Do They Think (Know) We Are

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I know some scary smart people who never graduated from high school, and I know some real doofuses with graduate degrees, so I understand that the number of years of formal education that someone has racked up is no guarantee of intelligence. But every once in a while, I see some poll numbers that pretty convincingly correlate believing idiotic things with having less education, and not believing idiotic things with having more education.

A recent example is a Harris poll that asked whether each of 15 statements about Barack Obama is true or false. In every single case, the less schooling people had, the more likely they were to believe that false things are true.

For example, 18 percent of Americans with high school or less education think that the president may be the Anti-Christ. That's right, nearly one out of five Americans whose education went no farther than secondary school -- who are eligible to vote, same as you and me -- believe Obama is the bad guy in The Omen.* But only 13 percent of people with some college believe that; and 9 percent of college graduates; and down to 4 percent of people who've had some post-graduate education.

It's the same descending scale with "He is doing many of the things that Hitler did." Twenty-four percent of high-school-or-less say yes; 20 percent of some-college; 18 percent of college grads; but only 10 percent of post-grads. "He was not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president": 32, then 22, then 21, then 7. "He is a Muslim": 43, 30, 24, 9. "He wants to turn over the sovereignty of the United States to a one world government": 37, 28, 21, 12. You get the idea.

I can think of three explanations for this pattern.

One is that it's not a pattern. Correlation isn't causation. It's just a fluke that educated people believe fewer bubbe meises.

Or, taking a different perspective, the explanation of those numbers is that liberals run America's schools and colleges, and the longer you stay there, the more chance they have to brainwash you.

A third possibility is that the more education you have, the more you understand that there is a difference between an opinion and a fact, and that there actually is a way to test assertions of fact against reality. No matter how hard you clap to save Tinkerbell, really-really believing in fairies doesn't make them real.

Again, I recognize that some people with advanced degrees think it is a fact that "He wants to use an economic collapse or terrorist attack as an excuse to take dictatorial powers," and that some other people -- kids in middle school, say -- have already had enough education to know that "He wants the terrorists to win" is not a fact, it's an opinion, and that as opinions go, it's nuts.

I don't think anything I'm saying here depends on partisanship. "He does what Wall Street and the bankers tell him to do" may well ring false to some Republicans, like bankers. And some Democrats, despite the fate of single-payer health care and the public option, may cling to "He is a socialist" the way that some of Joe Lieberman's fans cling to "He is a Democrat."

But when you look at the political affiliation of people who believe things like "He is a racist" and "He is anti-American," the correlation with being a Republican is even stronger than the correlation with fewer years of formal education. About a quarter of Republicans say that Obama is the Anti-Christ; more than a third agree that "He is doing many of the things that Hitler did"; 45 percent of Republicans say he wasn't born in the U.S.; a majority of them say yes, he wants to turn over our sovereignty to a one-world government; and 57 percent say he's a Muslim.

During the final hours of the Senate's vote on the reconciliation bill, Republicans offered dozens of amendments, most of them intended as traps for mid-term election ads. Knowing that Democrats were going to vote against every amendment -- for procedural reasons, no matter what the amendment said -- the Republicans had a jolly time coming up with moms, apple pies and American flags for the Democrats to oppose. The most notorious was the I-dare-you-to-vote-against-this from Senator Tom Coburn (R-Ok.) making rapists and sex offenders ineligible for erectile dysfunction drugs.

I have no doubt that, come the fall, Senate Democrats up for re-election will be accused of giving child molesters access to government-paid Viagra. The charge will no doubt be documented with Congressional Record excerpts and video clips. See? It's true. It's a fact. Can't deny it. Red-handed. Voted against it.

I would like to think that Americans are too smart to fall for this, and that the news media will expose the charge as the cynical ploy it is. But it's naĂ¯ve of me to believe that, faced with fabrications of Orwellian proportions, the media will be capable of more than on-the-one-hand, on-the-other, and I'm afraid that the answer to "How dumb do they think we are?" turns out to be not much of an insult.

*UPDATE: Fixed to correct an error.

This is my column from The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles. You can read more of my columns here, and e-mail me there if you'd like.

 

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10:01 PM on 03/30/2010
I think it is this:

(1) The less education you have the more likely you are to be out of a job and listen to Talk Radio.
(2) Or be a tradesman driving a truck and listening to talk Radio.
(3) 99% of Talk Radio (same people as Fox) claims things like that Democrats want to take worker's
jobs and give them to illegal alians.

(4) Hitler's Goebbles discrovered that if repeat lies enough over media that people begin to believe that it is true.

This is how Germans were persuaded to turn in their nieghbors to be carted away to their death.

Unfortunately other Republican lies are daily repeated on every other station and I am sure if you
look at the same set of statistics applied to people who call themselves Republican, the numbers
are way higher.

And the latters is why there is an expression that the average Waiter in Europe understand Politics better than the average College Educated American
02:28 PM on 03/28/2010
"A third possibility is that the more education you have, the more you understand that there is a difference between an opinion and a fact, and that there actually is a way to test assertions of fact against reality. "
I vote for this.The rghtwing has entered a fantasyland constructed out of rumors and innuendo, grounded in ignorance, and a frustration that comes with finding themselves inarticulate in a changing environment.
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ProgressiveVoice
06:01 AM on 03/28/2010
That's the problem with polls. 15 statements, true or false. Of more interest would be the answers to the follow up question, Why? (or How? or What?) - check out bradsblog and the teaparty videos for an example of what I mean.
What is Pres. Obama doing that Hitler did?
Where do you think Pres. Obama was born, if not the US? (I'm guessing a lot of people will say "Hawaii")
What has Pres. Obama said that makes you believe he wants to turn over "the sovereignty of the United States to a one world government"? Or that he wants the terrorists to win?

Most of these people spout whatever sound bite crap they are fed by faux gnus and right-wing shock jocks. They don't question it and faux gnus isn't giving any in depth analysis. Their knowledge of the subject goes no deeper than the statements of which they are asked "true or false".
10:04 PM on 03/27/2010
Agreed. After all we did have W for two terms.
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Sandy972
10:57 PM on 03/27/2010
So true. If after all the mistakes GW did his first term, and people still voted him in for a second term, it is easy to see why many other countries think we are just a tad stupid.

If it wasn't so scary, it would be laughable.
01:13 AM on 03/28/2010
So your thesis is 40 million americans are stupid, and that scares you? Frankly it's that logic that swept our current President into office... and that is laughable.
10:02 PM on 03/27/2010
how do the stats line up with bill mahers splits -----the hillbilly half of the country -----the stupid south ,as he says.
01:14 AM on 03/28/2010
You make your point citing Bill Maher. Comedian Bill Maher? Hollywood entertainer Bill Maher?
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realitytrumpsbull
two 'alves of coconut!
08:26 PM on 03/27/2010
I voted for Obama, and not to be anti-Republican, although some of the neocon GOPsters gave their critics NO shortage of ammunition. I voted for Obama because when the guy spoke, I could actually UNDERSTAND what the guy was saying. I was astounded. I was amazed, I was impressed, flabbergasted, even. And you know what? A year into it, and the guy's still at it! He's like the Energizer Bunny, keeps going and going and going, and, if he KEEPS going at this rate, there's nothing but fear and good sense stopping him from signing up for the 2012 election to possibly be chosen for a 2nd term.

Maybe some people don't like him, but that's too darn bad. The Republicans had their 8 years with Bush, people wanted change, they voted for change, and, sure enough, got change. Maybe this will be some quality time for Republicans to reconsider the inner workings of brand GOP, reconnect with what values they didn't sell at a loss for a barrel of oil, and then when they're ready, go through the vetting process to prevent against conflicts of interest and other scandal-inducing problems, and then pick their best Candidate in 2012/2016. Americans need, and want, people with clean hands, with maybe some education, good people skills, and a healthy stance against public corruption problems, which have plagued this country, and other countries, for years. Integrity, and honesty. We can do that.
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11:20 PM on 03/27/2010
Lots of Republicans including myself thought Bush became a nightmare for us in his second term. First term, post 9/11, he did well and we supported him. Then he started spending money we didn't have without a darn good reason in the first two years of his second term and that angered lots of us. The last two years of his second term, the dems blackmailed him by threatening to cut off funds for our soldiers unless they got "reparations" and overloaded every bill with massive amounts of pork, so I don't blame W for that.

Our party has done a 180, and as soon as we can ditch a few more turncoats, we will again be the party of conservatives without the massive amounts of corruption present under Obama.
If you didn't want corruption and gangster tactics, why did you vote for Obama? Surely you knew
he was a Chicago political hit man surronded by union goons and "hate America" radicals, Sure, he speaks his lies clearly and with intelligence, but they are lies nonetheless. No lobbyists, c-span, no earmarks,,,any of those promises ring a bell. There are some GREAT candidates out there from both parties who are honest, intelligent, and love freedom and capitalism, so lets support them and get some new blood in there. Obama wasn't it. ,,,joe
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ProgressiveVoice
05:20 AM on 03/28/2010
Why do conservatives continue to label liberals as hating America?

Actions speak louder than words to me and it's the conservative ideology that has put America on its deathbed. The last 30 years of conservative ideology has left our middle class decimated, huge holes in the social safety net, infrastructure on the verge of collapse, an entrenched elite sucking up ever greater amounts of national income and wealth, a "service" economy instead of a manufacturing one, an educational system - from schools to libraries to parks and museums - that is beyond dysfunctional, a Defense Department that spends more money every year than the entire rest of the world, combined, spends but can't afford to fight a war without billions more, a Supreme Court bent on dismantling centuries of precedent and a Constitution shredded in the name of the never-ending, never won or lost, War on Terrorism.
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Querent
I just had to say that.
06:00 AM on 03/28/2010
You don't seem to understand the way it works. Saying you had doubts about W in his second term doesn't absolve you of the responsibility for re-electing him. W was the worst president ever, and you sent him back for a second term. That proves conclusively that the Republican Party cannot be trusted with the interests of the nation. So you're sorry? Well, you're not forgiven. Get over it.
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notb observer
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07:47 PM on 03/27/2010
The principal reason that there are still such high (relatively) numbers of die-hard Republicans, given that so many high profile and intelligent Right leaning people have abandoned the party after its 8 year long orgy of carnivorous capitalism and ensuing year of determined obstructionism to the Will of the Majority is simple. It's very easy to do, and suits the lifestyle of the physically and intellectually lazy 20% that the Neo Cons count as their base. All they are interested in is defeating a black President, and all the base needs are simple to remember negative soundbytes which reinforce racism, bigotry and hate.
Actually thinking and exploring the truth or the complexity of the problems requires effort and mental capability, and the vast majority of the mouth breathers that show up at Palin rallies, watch Beck and Limbaugh or vote for people like Bachmann are those very people who never learned to think critically. Many even manage to get through college and post-graduate education without the most basic abilities oof reasoned thought. It is a damning statement of our educational system, and one that will not soon be resolved given the latest assault on education we have seen in Texas.
07:41 PM on 03/27/2010
How dumb are Americans? No problem with that question. A huge number are dumb enough to hail Sarah Palin and wish she were president. How dumb are Americans? Well I have read that more than forty percent can't find the United States on a map of the world. How dumb are Americans. Well Americans in large numbers believe in the Rapture but don't believe in climate change. Americans are really really dumb and they are fighting for the right to remain dumb and get dumber. Its their right and its the American way.
01:17 AM on 03/28/2010
So we have established that those that hail Sarah Palin are dumb? Those that beleive in climate change are smart? Did I get it right?

And where is it that you think you rank?
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Querent
I just had to say that.
06:01 AM on 03/28/2010
You don't think so? That says it all.
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Steelsil
Alan Grayson for President!
05:45 PM on 03/27/2010
Get a clue, Republicans - your party was in complete power for 8 years, and it destroyed the country's economy. Your belief system has been put to the test, and what did we get? An endless war based on lies told by Bush and company, the biggest real estate crash in history, the biggest banking bailout in history to preserve an the tattered remains of the economy that was strong when Bush took office, the biggest theft of investors money in history, the biggest unemployment figures in history, the largest deficit in history - after being handed a government surplus by Clinton, incompetence in governance that resulted in the Katrina fiasco and poisoned food scandal after poisoned food scandal - and still you believe with increased passion in policies that have been PROVED to be a failure. As far as I can tell, 'low intelligence quotient' and 'Republican' are synonyms.
07:46 PM on 03/27/2010
Don't forget when, their mascot, Reagan was in charge, we got the Savings and Loan scandals and selling arms to our enemies.
07:50 PM on 03/27/2010
and tripling the national debt.
01:08 AM on 03/28/2010
Blah blah blah republicans. Blah blah blah Bush. Blah blah Clinton. blah blah, low intelligence quotient and Republican are synonyms.

And you speak for the smart ones?
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ProgressiveVoice
05:24 AM on 03/28/2010
Yes, because smart ones cite facts.

I'm not sure who you speak for . . . the Blah Blahs?
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05:05 PM on 03/27/2010
I was at a flea market a couple of months ago and came across a paperback college text translation of Karl Marx's CAPITALISM. It had been published in the 1960s, and had a forward by a poly sci professor who glibly explained away the validity of Marx' doctrines. He used as an example the idea that Marx advances--that the oligarchy would commit war on education as a means of keeping the population stupid--but dismissed it as a silly notion that no one would accept in 1961.

Fast forward to the war on public education by the AEI and Heritage foundation, who are fighting all attempts at standards being set federally and want to use vouchers as a way to 'fix' education.

The enforced vapidity of the American public education system is no accident. I'm not a Marxist, but there's no way we can keep with the visions of the founding fathers while having an electorate that doesn't take it upon itself to do the hard work of thinking and accepting that there are uncomfortable facts.
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ljmck
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04:19 PM on 03/27/2010
All of which is an outstanding argument for college educations to be made available to more people.

There's a reason we're falling behind the rest of the world in many measures of health and well being. Education matters!

Health care now, health care tomorrow, and education forever!
04:11 PM on 03/27/2010
Voters should have to pass a basic civics/history test....Maybe people would have the incentive to get informed then
06:47 PM on 03/27/2010
I agree. I'm reminded of when Richard Belzer stated on national radio that after the election in 2008, Bush wouldn't step down, but would instead declare martial law and "seize the presidency" from Obama.
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02:43 PM on 03/27/2010
I keep hearing how voting no against the viagra for pedophiles thing is going to be used in ads. Frankly, once healthcare reform is passed, if the Dems are too brain-dead not to immediately introduce bills to enact just such restrictions, then they frankly deserve to be Earl Long'ed right out of their seats.
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05:54 PM on 03/27/2010
Such restrictions are probably unconstitutional. The Republicans like to use the Supreme Court to corner the democrats. But you also have a good point, which is to say that even though the bill has already passed doesn't mean that they can't go back afterwards an pass some new measures when they have time. Then they can see if THOSE measures get thrown out, instead of the whole health care bill.
01:11 PM on 03/27/2010
People, wa-a-a-a-ay back when in the 1950's and '60's, the Far Right correctly recognized their biggest hurdle in ascending to power and re-shaping the United State into some kind of Randian Riche Corporate Oligarchy and guess what is was:

Quality Public Schools.

We are now paying the price for the systematic, purposeful Dumbing Down of America.

Send your thank-you notes to the State of Texas.
02:01 PM on 03/27/2010
Conservatism has been for the dark ages for the serfs for 200 years!

Conservatism was founded to destroy democracy, republicanism, liberalism, and the Enlightenment of the people.

We need to return to the Liberal values of the founding fathers, both democrat, and republican.

"America, the first modern liberal state was founded, without a monarch or a hereditary aristocracy.[8"

"Liberalism first became a powerful force in the Age of Enlightenment, rejecting many foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier theories of government, "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

Bush, Cheney, the GOP, the very flower of the conservative movement,

shredded the constitution, bankrupted the economy, abused the truth, tortured, war mongered, left the poor die.

Monarchist dark ages Conservatism is "conserved"

Wake up,

Please.

The is the conservative endgame. The WANT Chaos, ignorance, emotionalism, fear and war, to destroy the republic, and let the plutocrats rules.
02:25 PM on 03/27/2010
The definition of liberal is not the same as what liberals are doing today. Read the constitution and then study what the liberals are doing right now there is a huge difference. Our founders knew of idiots 233 years in advance, amazing.
01:22 AM on 03/28/2010
If you are the fan of research as you suggest, why do you cite wikipedia? Do over.
02:11 AM on 03/28/2010
Given my first-hand knowledge, not many of those notes wil come from Luzianna.
08:45 AM on 03/31/2010
Unfortunately for us all, skewy, I suspect you are correct.
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01:09 PM on 03/27/2010
But guys, if it's on Fox News it must be true right?