Marty Kaplan

Marty Kaplan

Posted September 28, 2008 | 11:26 PM (EST)

Why the Debates Won't Matter (Hint: It's a Felony)

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Let me hedge my bet.

Maybe, at the vice presidential debate, the talking points Sarah Palin's handlers have been stuffing her head with will come out of her mouth so butchered that even Republican voters will say, like Kurtz in Heart of Darkness, "The horror, the horror."

Or maybe, at one of the remaining presidential debates, a contemptuously smirking John McCain will finally become so enraged by having to share a stage with Barack Obama that he will pop his notorious cork right there in front of a hundred million Americans.

Or maybe Obama or Biden will goof or gaffe or otherwise give such a bloody bit of chum to the media sharks that the gazillionth replay of the the sound bite will drive every swing voter in the country away from them.

But I don't think so.

Sure, cable yakkers will declare after each debate who won on points, and who on body language; who played Nixon, and who played Kennedy; who won their focus groups of undecideds, and who flatlined with them. But my guess is that the prestige press headlines will continue to play it safe, as they did after the first debate -- "Candidates clash" (New York Times), "differ sharply" (Los Angeles Times), "quarrel" (Washington Post) -- and that on television, it will be concluded that no one delivered a knockout blow, which will require audiences to remain in suspense, and therefore to keep tuning in, until the photo-finish.

This election won't be won or lost at the debates. Nor will it be determined by the two campaigns' "ground games" -- their get-out-the-vote efforts. Nor, unfortunately, will its outcome even depend on how many Americans wake up on Election Day intending to vote for one candidate or the other.

Instead, my fear is that the Electoral College results will hang on the swing state voting systems' vulnerability to sabotage.

It's already happening.

In El Paso County, Colorado, the county clerk -- a delegate to the Republican National Convention -- told out-of-state undergraduates at Colorado College, falsely, that they couldn't vote in Colorado if their parents claim them as dependents on their taxes.

In Montgomery County, Virginia, the county registrar issued a press release warning out-of-state college students, falsely, that if they register to vote in Virginia, they won't be eligible for coverage under their parents' health and car insurance, and that "if you have a scholarship attached to your former residence, you could lose this funding."

In Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, Democratic voters received a mailing containing tear-out requests for absentee ballots addressed to the clerk in Caledonia -- the wrong location. In Middleton, Wisconsin, Democratic voters received absentee ballot requests addressed to the clerk in Madison -- the wrong address. Both mailers were sent by the McCain campaign.

Florida, Michigan and Ohio have some of the country's highest foreclosure rates. "Because many homeowners in foreclosure are black or poor," says the New York Times, "and are considered probable Democratic voters in many areas, the issue has begun to have political ramifications." If you're one of the million Americans who lost a home through foreclosure, and if you didn't file a change of address with your election board, you're a sitting duck for an Election Day challenge by a partisan poll watcher holding a public list of foreclosed homes. In states like New Mexico and Iowa, the number of foreclosures is greater than the number of votes by which George W. Bush carried the state in 2004.

In the 2006 election, according to the nonpartisan Fair Elections Legal Network, black voters in Virginia got computer-generated phone calls from a bogus "Virginia Election Commission" telling them that they could be arrested if they went to the wrong polling place; in Maryland, out-of-state leafleters gave phony Democratic sample ballots to black voters with the names of Republican candidates checked in red; in New Mexico, Democratic voters got personal phone calls from out of state that directed them to the wrong polling place. Does anyone think this won't be tried again in 2008?

The reason behind Alberto Gonzales' attempted purge of US Attorneys was that some of them wouldn't knuckle under to Karl Rove's plan to concoct an "election fraud" hoax that would put Republicans in control of the nation's voting lists. "We have, as you know, an enormous and growing problem with elections in certain parts of America today," Rove falsely told the Republican National Lawyers Association, an evidence-less problem crying out for a draconian solution. Does anyone think that Rove's move from the White House to Fox has dampened Republican ardor for this ruse?

And if all of that doesn't alarm you, consider the new report on electronic voting systems [pdf] from the Computer Security Group at the University of California, Santa Barbara, which concluded that "all voting systems recently analyzed by independent security testers have been found to contain fatal security flaws that could compromise the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of the voting process.... Unless electronic voting systems are held up to standards that are commensurate with the criticality of the tasks they have to perform, the very core of our democracy is in danger."

And did I mention that on Election Day, some polling places in minority precincts in battleground states will be shocked, simply shocked, to discover that so many people want to vote that it will take hours of standing in line to vote. That is, of course, unless they run of out ballots.

So while the presidential and vice presidential debates may make for swell political theater, the likelihood is that victory will be determined not by how the debates move a small percentage of undecided Americans off the fence, but by the voting experiences of a few thousand voters in a few swing states on November 4. Josef Stalin is reputed to have said, "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." I think he had it half right. Those who decide who cast the votes also decide everything.


(This is adapted from my column in The Jewish Journal of Los Angeles.)

Let me hedge my bet. Maybe, at the vice presidential debate, the talking points Sarah Palin's handlers have been stuffing her head with will come out of her mouth so butchered that even Republican v...
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Saying voter suppression is not my problem unless I'm an attorney is like saying the financial crisis is not my problem unless I'm a finance expert or politician.

Why do we always hear the media talk about voter suppression issues ON ELECTION DAY? Then we have people rave about it for a month or two and then four years later we've forgotten about it.

People should bring this to the media's attention NOW while it's happening before Nov. 4th. It's too late in a month. But if anyone has had their vote suppressed already there is time for them to fix that (which is partially the advantage for early voters).

The national media has to get involved in this and run stories about voter suppression to help the people who may have been targeted:
"These are tactics used in suppressing votes. If you have been a victim of X, here is what you should do..."

Voters have rights, but it doesn't help if they don't realize that AFTER election day.

Personally, I feel that the national media should be running stories and information about voter suppression EVERY DAY to protect the voters.

I suggest that everyone who cares about this issue should write to CNN, MSNBC, FOX (ugh), as well as local and national networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) to tell them this is an issue we want to hear about NOW, not on November 4th.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 10/02/2008
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Email everyone you know to go to VOTEFORCHANGE.COM to double, triple surely check that you are registered to vote and that you will be notified where to go!
I wouldn't trust anyone that calls your house or sends you mail. TRUST NO ONE! confirm it on VOTEFORCHANGE.COM I live in Los Angeles but was home in Ohio (Mahoning county) last week, misleading ads (radio, tv, calls and email) are everywhere there! The radio and mailers are horrible!!

My parents, registered Democrats, were sent instructions on where to vote and it was WRONG!!! My Mother knew that the place she was instructed to vote at is not her normal polling place. She has voted in every local, state, federal election since the early 70's, so she called the local election board and asked! WHAT DO YOU KNOW? the MAILER WAS WRONG, sent out by the RNC affiliates. The only reason my Mother knew it was wrong is for the fact she has voted countless times!!! New Voters would never know the difference! BEWARE!! KNOW BEFORE YOU GO!!! VOTEFORCHANGE.COM MAKES IT EASY!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 AM on 10/02/2008
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Just wondering how this type of fraud is allowed to stand, without challenge. Surely the media could bring all of this to light and bring charges and penalties against the people involved. Then something needs to be done so that those who were denied their right to cast their votes, could have another opportunity. Seems like the only fair thing to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 10/02/2008

Republicans are a threat to our democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 10/01/2008
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I'm with you, Marty. Unfortunately, Bush's HAVA Act sealed the fate of countless elections. When voting rights of a people are rescinded or suspended, for whatever reason, anarchy reigns.

The Brad Blog has an excellent piece, as written before, about the "Man in the Middle" scheme that took place with the fraudulent '04 Ohio elections. Subpoenas are now being served, thanks to Dem. Sec. of State, Jennifer Brunner. Brunner is also suing Premier (previously known as Diebold).

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6445#more-6445

Tyranny already rules in America, but it's largely being ignored by the populace. It's time to start discussing the elephant droppings in the middle of the room. Thanks for your thoughts, Marty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 10/01/2008

you can't have anarchy and tyranny at the same time, you can have chaos and tyranny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 10/01/2008
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Should the election be monitored by the UN?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 10/01/2008

YES.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 10/01/2008

No, it should be monitored by the US

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 10/01/2008

It's all in Karl Rove's "Master Plan for Absolute Power" -- if this election isn't close enough for them to fudge the results in a credible way, Bush can use the financial meltdown as a reason to stay in power past his term. He gave himself that power in May 2007 - called it the National Security Presidential Directive (HSPD 51) and Homeland Security Presidential Directive (HSPD 20) - and an "economic crisis" is one of the pretexts that allow him to remain president. The GOP has set it up so they can't lose. Ever hear that Rove and Jack Abramoff had baseball hats made for their gang with "CBC" embroidered on the back? That was for "Corrupt Bastards Club." They think it's funny!

And if folks get angry, the GOP has that covered too. A first-ever Army unit being trained for "civil unrest" starting this month. The 3rd Infantry Division"s 1st Brigade Combat Team, which spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq, is training for domestic crowd control. Protesters beware!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 10/01/2008

Good reporting. Thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 10/05/2008


How can the public be given the information they need to make the right decision? The answer is they won't be given correct information all of the.time. This is an even bigger problem now that we have the internet blogs etc. Disinformation or lies, especially when laced with a fear factor, is the most effective kind of information, especially to those who are too busy to follow things close enough.
I can't argue with any of the points you've made, This article is right on.
Until we can rid this country of the crooked attorney's which have been appointed by G.W. Bush, no one will be prosecuted because they use executive privilege as a shield to protect them from having to testify to the part of the government who has the task of oversight. Arrest, conviction and real incarceration in prison is the only way what's being done to hurt this country can be stopped. I'm not talking about any country club prison, I'm talking about hard time in the worst facilities.
I don't tyink there is a significant enough difference between the two parties.
I know in this election, Obama is the only choice. Will he be able to answer all of my hopes. I doubt it but I truly know, he is the only one I can even hope will.
I wonder how many people won't see this message from you. I hope everyone sees it, but I know they all won't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/01/2008
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Printed receipts leave room for employers to extort "correct" votes from employees......think, think......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 10/01/2008
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I assume you're talking about voting machines with a "voter-verified paper trail."

You don't get a printed receipt. You only get to "look" at the paper, not take it home. See http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2578

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 10/01/2008
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Thanks Marty. Great article. By the way If folks want to get their daily fix of election fraud news then check out BradBlog at http://www.bradblog.com/

And I've collected a list, over the years, of the various election fraud scams... http://chumppolitics.blogspot.com/2008/09/chumps-guide-to-voting-in-america.html

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." -- Joseph Stalin

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 10/01/2008

Thanks for the links, and the info.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 10/01/2008
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You're welcome :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 10/01/2008
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Printed receipts will allow bribery of voters: show the receipt, get a payoff. Your vote is no longer secret.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 10/01/2008

I am not rushing to panic like the author of the article. We already know all of the Republican tricks from the last two elections. Knowledge is power. There will be overseers galore at the polling places that could be potential risks of voter fraud . No one will run away with the election, except Obama who already posts a strong lead over McCain, due to increase even further after the next few debates. Take hear, Dems, all is not lost!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 10/01/2008
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>We already know all of the Republican tricks from the last two elections.

They've come up with new ones. If it's close they'll steal it. And right now in the swing states, it's very close.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 10/01/2008

We have to be smarter than them, we cannot fold....and if there is a doubt about this election there will be an uprising... people have fought against more... yes it is screwed up.
How much money is Obama's campaign putting into protecting the vote...? 10 million on ads does not matter if this issue is not dealt with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 10/01/2008

Just one slight disagreement (made tongue in cheek) with your dismissing the importance of the debates. It should be noted, that today, according to one FOX news people, related to the Ferraro - Bush VP debate in the eighties, and Bush Sr making condescending remarks to Ferraro, the newsman(?) said,"I remember it well".
Don't we all. 'Hanging Chads are so yesterday', are their talking points.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 10/01/2008

The Democratic National Committee and the Obama campaign need to get out there and let the voters know what is happening. All the phone banks and canvassing units need to encourage voters to 1) check their registrations now 2) get any needed ID now and 3) blast all the local news sources with stories of these current and potential tactics so that any missteps on election day will be immediately reported, attacked and prosecuted. The website idea is a good one. Let's get on it.

Let's do it now. It's already late, but not too late to guard our votes and voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 10/01/2008
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nothing about this election will look the same after this;
a must read, save it and pass it on...

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/images/Phillips%20Aff%20to%20Reply%20filed%2091708.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 10/01/2008
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