Who's Afraid Of James Carville?

Posted March 25, 2008 | 02:45 PM (EST)

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James Carville calls Bill Richardson "Judas" because he believes that Democrats should have more loyalty to the Clintons than they should to their country. He believes that if the Clintons provided you with work, you should repay them by supporting Hillary. Of course, if you support Hillary because her husband gave you a job, you've pretty much become the personification of corruption.

Rather than disown his remarks, rather than say he "misspoke," James Carville keeps pushing the "Judas" line. Why? What's he after? He's trying to send a message to the other super delegates: go with Barack, and I'm coming after you. I'm going to hunt you down, friend-o.

Al Gore, thinking about going with Barack Obama? Et tu, Al? John Edwards, thinking about endorsing Barack Obama? James Carville is coming after you, buddy. He's a tough guy, as you can see from his comments on TV. James Carville is probably the toughest guy on his cul-de-sac in Alexandria, Virginia.

He believes that if he goes on TV and stares straight at the screen for a long enough period of time, some super delegate watching him will cower in their closet for fear of being treated like Bill Richardson.

But the super delegates have been heading Barack Obama's way for the last couple of months. The super delegates do not want to be responsible for overturning the will of the people. They do not want to choose against the candidate who has more votes, more states won, and more delegates. They want to do what's right, what's fair.

So James Carville can huff and puff and threaten to blow their houses down. But it's all sound and fury. In the end, most of the super delegates will do what they believe is right for their country, not for their cronies.

I know how I'd like to see this end for the bully James Carville. The same way it ended in the Karate Kid. Johnny Lawrence had picked on Daniel Larusso for a long time, but what Johnny didn't count on was that Daniel knew the crane method.

The super delegates, refusing to be intimidated, are about to give James Carville a kick he will never see coming. And the Democratic Party will be the better for it.


 
 

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- TennGinny See Profile I'm a Fan of TennGinny

Those of you who are calling yourselves loyal Democrats should remember who stood up with us during all the bad years of being in the minority with Bush as President. James Carville is a great man who stands up for what he believes in. Try reading his books. I salute him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 03/27/2008
- TexasDem0 See Profile I'm a Fan of TexasDem0

James Carville should tro to learn to speak English. It would improve his credibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 03/26/2008
- AuntSam See Profile I'm a Fan of AuntSam

Carville has confirmed that he is not 'part' of the Hillary campaign staff. So, why is he out there up close and personal? The reason.... Carville is known to be Bill Clinton's 'guy' and some political analysts claim that the perception of many is that if you vote for Hillary, you're also getting Bill. Without him, no argument, her candidacy would have been derailed long ago. In fact, who can truly argue that without Bill she wouldn't even be a blip on the political screen. Point: Male blue collar worker in PA who attested he is voting for HRC, because "It she gets that 3:00 a.m. call, she could just roll over and wake up Bill. " The papers today cite that China and Mexico favor her because of her husbands NAFTA and free trade agreements and believe she will continue in his footsteps. Okay, you get the picture.
So, when you see James Carville, most immediately think of Bill Clinton who is linked to ..........which keeps alive that if Hillary stumbles, Bill and his cronies will be there to defend, support and advise (and call out the attack dogs on perceived foes). A big twist on the two-fer deal !
With reference to Governor Richardson - my respect for this man has increased enormously - he of all people knew the 'consequences' that would be forthcoming from the Clinton camp and yet, (I believe) made his declaration because he truly believed it was the right thing for the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 03/26/2008
- Seattlelite See Profile I'm a Fan of Seattlelite

Carville and his nasty comment sent me to Bill Richardson's website to made a donation! Richardson mentioned he has some campaign debt to pay off. I hope other Obama supporters will do the same. I can't think of better way to send a message to the super delegates -- we'll support Obama and the supers that support him. Let these clowns know where their bread and butter will come from. The DNC keeps sending me donation request in the mail, I write on them "I'll send you money when we have a nominee" and mail it back. Time they stop screwing around and bring this soap opera to a close.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 03/26/2008
- MrGill See Profile I'm a Fan of MrGill

First of all, Carville has done more to crash the Clinton train in this election cycle than anyone on her team. For that I'm grateful. Which brings me to the second point; we are tired of these old school dirt ball politics; the charge that Richardson is 'Judas' clearly states that Carville is of the opinion that something is 'owed' to the Clintons, and like a good little Mexican, Richardson should just bow down and hand his vote to Clinton, maybe with a 'yes massa' thrown in for good measure. Horsecrap. He doesn't owe anybody anything, he is a free man and free to vote for whoever he pleases. The years of 'Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours' is over, change is coming. And Carville's gravy train is coming to an end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 03/26/2008
- krisellyn See Profile I'm a Fan of krisellyn

Carville is right. Richardson is a slime bag. And you know it too. It just so happens his betrayal helps your candidate. So, stop complaining about Carville when he has an opinion about Obama's politics as usual. And anyway, we all know this is about padding your wallet. You should be thanking Carville for giving you a gig.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 03/26/2008
- vincealy See Profile I'm a Fan of vincealy

Most of the superdelegates are politicians when they realise HRC might cost them the house you will them flock to the only candidate who has a chance to expand the party. HRC is the most devisive person left in the field. She is also the least trusted. Her recent 5 pinnochio retelling of her Bosnia adventure certainly will not improve her "Honesty Factor" a more detailed list onHRC here http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/hillarys_list_of_lies.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 03/26/2008
- AnninCA See Profile I'm a Fan of AnninCA

The House will be determined by voters in the off-year, and that will be the registered Dems.

Guess who will walk if Obama is nominated through a stolen nomination process?

You bet they are thinking this through. Do you think those new Dems will remember to vote when it's not all about "Yes We Can?"

Nope. But it will be the ones who got disgusted by this Obama crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 03/26/2008
- ChimpmasterDJ See Profile I'm a Fan of ChimpmasterDJ

Hopefully, AnninCA, you will "walk"... We're tired of neo-cons posing as Democrats, and even more tired of people who don't understand the meaning of "stealing" and attempt to misapply it. Take your empty pant-suit and go campaign for McCain... You know you really wanted to all along.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 03/27/2008
- MsLiz See Profile I'm a Fan of MsLiz

Whenever I start reading a post, and see someone saying something which is 180 degrees opposed to reality, I look up to see who wrote it. AnninCa again. I suppose the "stolen nomination process" is the barring of Florida and Michigan. Anyone else referring to a stolen nomination process is worried that Hillary will be nominated instead of the candidate with the highest number of delegates and popular votes.

I hope you are contributing to HRC's campaign, she needs your money. Speaking of which, if she gets the nomination, who will pay for her campaign?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 03/26/2008
- Opus007 See Profile I'm a Fan of Opus007

Carville's rant was just a reminder of the tawdry aspects of the Clinton Administration. His rant I think actually hurt the Clintons rather than help them- it again connected the Clintons to the past.

We have the opportunity if we are brave enough to take it- to rally around a candidate that will create a sea change in Washington. That is why there is so much excitement for Barack Obama. The other componiet would be to get as many as possible true Democrats into office. (Not Blue Dogs or
DLC-ers who are just Repulbican Lite)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 03/26/2008
- Markhax See Profile I'm a Fan of Markhax

James Carville is nothing more than a buffoon. Who cares what he thinks?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 03/26/2008
- DukeFan See Profile I'm a Fan of DukeFan

Great post Matt! Frankly, I think Carville is nuts and the truth is already unraveling about the Clintons. No wonder Richardson endorsed Obama and I am very happy that he had the courage to do so. If people look at the facts it's pretty transparent that the Clinton's are well...just that...the Clinton's. People who lie, misrepresent, distort facts, and hold secrets and mislead the American people and continue to think that they are entitled to the Presidency. I used to be a fan of theirs but when they turned against their own party that did it for me. Carville reminds me not only in appearance but also his traits of 'Smeegle' in Lord of the Rings! Not flattering!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 03/26/2008
- AnninCA See Profile I'm a Fan of AnninCA

Man, all Carville had to do to get Richardson all flustered was give him a smart-aleck tap. And Richardson forgot all about selling Obama and fell right into the trap of defending his favorite candidate........himself. *haha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 03/26/2008
- busybeez See Profile I'm a Fan of busybeez

I pray you are right. These people need to be pushed out of power. How dare Carville think he can speak so disrespectfully to Gov. Richardson, a statesman who has served our country for many years. Richardson bravely stood up for our party and our country. Carville is just another Rove, who uses intimidation to control people. Carville and Rove both need to move to Russia, they will fit in well there. And the voters need to decide, are we not any better than the Republicans whose politics we have despised? It's time to move forward together and win the election in November so we can bring our soldiers home as promised. No more scorched earth!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 03/26/2008
- shep1900 See Profile I'm a Fan of shep1900

New Mexico voted for Senator Clinton. Governor Richardson had stated on numerous occasions that he thinks that all superdelegates should follow the will of the people, and not overturn their primary votes.

Do you, perhaps, see a contradiction there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 03/26/2008
- Opus007 See Profile I'm a Fan of Opus007

shep1900

It was so close between Obama and Clinton in New Mexico that it took weeks to call it. If he had endorsed him sooner Obama would have won by a big margin. So it was a very close primary but what tipped the scale for Richardson as a Hispanic was Obama's speech on race. It seems perfectly legitimate to me. And I can see how that would be important to New Mexico with its high Hispanic population.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 03/26/2008
- jrterrier See Profile I'm a Fan of jrterrier

I think it's great to have someone say whatever they think and then not back down or apologize. Agree or disagree with him but at least he stands by his comments. That's refreshing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 03/26/2008
- uscitizen See Profile I'm a Fan of uscitizen

It seems to be about time for a good housecleaning. I've enjoyed listening to Carville in the past--the distant past. But he and many other pundits now seem to be full of nothing but hot air and a superinflated ego. The louder they squawk, the more insecure they must be feeling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 03/26/2008
- jimmshorts See Profile I'm a Fan of jimmshorts

Carville is enmeshed in the problem of all problems: denial. Dude, Carville's soul is tethered remotely away from his mind, body and spirit. He should take a repreive and find calm recovery in the 12 steps. His day in the limelight has past. Oh, and Carville, "know thy audience".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 03/26/2008
- foreffectivegovernment See Profile I'm a Fan of foreffectivegovernment

You said, "In the end, most of the super delegates will do what they believe is right for their country, not for their cronies."
Wrong, Kemosabe. the superdelegates will do what is right for the Democratic Party. That is why they came into being and that's what they will do. It doesn't matter how much these Temporary Democrats threaten to riot in the streets, vote for McCain, or vent their rage against Hillary Clinton on Huffington Post, encouraged by the Republicans in sheep's clothing. They do not have to vote for the candidate that won their district, who they support now, or who their children tell them to.

They were established to nominate who they think will be the strongest Democratic candidate to beat the Republican candidate. Most of these delegates are seasoned politicians and are privy to things other than what is on the MSM and these Blogs. All of the screaming, ranting, and raving you kids do is not going to change the outcome of this nomination process so cast your vote for your chosen candidate and don't belittle mine.

Don't yell about anyone destroying a Democratic Party that you have never been part of because that only means you may be the one doing it by your actions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 03/26/2008
- SuppersReady See Profile I'm a Fan of SuppersReady

You assume that the best thing for the Democratic Party is the Clinton's? I have been a Democrat since age 18 which is 32 years. I have no intention of voting for Clinton in the General. Don't assume that all real Democrats are for Hillary. She starting digging her grave when she agreed to the DNC rules and changed her miind when she started losing. I am disgusted with her campaigns tactics and her surrogates. Seasoned politicians? That's the problem.....we need people who want what is good for the country and the country doesn't need seasoned politcians who will do anything to win, to include praising a Republican to ensure an Obama defeat in the fall. Screw her and Carville.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 03/26/2008
- jrterrier See Profile I'm a Fan of jrterrier

Actually, the superdelegates who are elected officials will for the most part do what's good for them. if they have to run, they will mostly look out for #1, themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 03/26/2008
- Hopalongpoppyseed See Profile I'm a Fan of Hopalongpoppyseed

I think I detect a little of the triangulating establishment in your comments. What will you say if the Superdelegates pick Obama and ratify the enthusiasm of those "screaming, ranting and raving" kids as you call them? What will you say then? By the way, I agree that the superdelegates are free to vote as they chose. That is the way the rules were written. I have been a legislative district chairman and I have been a Democratic PCO since 1979 and I think the superdelegates will go to Obama. So fellow old timer, now I guess we shall have to wait and see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 03/26/2008
- jw See Profile I'm a Fan of jw

James got to work for the Clintons, otherwise, he will be out of a job!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 03/26/2008
- jules135 See Profile I'm a Fan of jules135

Ok -- anyone else see a similarity between the Clinton's and their "friends", aka, James Carville, to THE SOPRANOS? Each time I think they cannot disappoint me more, they come up with something new.
I used to be a loyal supporter of this "family". Now I'm ashamed that they're Democrats, let alone Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 03/26/2008
- tester See Profile I'm a Fan of tester

Do you really think Carville has so much power over the Superdelegates? He didn't say anything when Dodd and plenty others "came" to Obama. So there must be something specific about Richardson, as Carville says in the interview "he [Richardson] knows what I am talking about".
Maybe betrayal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 03/25/2008
- hopefulintexas See Profile I'm a Fan of hopefulintexas

i don't know who james carville thinks he has so much power over, but you have to admit, it was spooky.
perhaps it has something to do with the "ranch in new mexico" carville pointedly mentioned in referencing the "branding" he felt had to be done to richardson.
think it's goulish, but wasn't it odd he referenced a "ranch in new mexico" where the cattle needed to be "branded" as part of this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 03/26/2008
- MsLiz See Profile I'm a Fan of MsLiz

Huh? I am fairly obtuse, but I heard Carville say he wanted to brand Richardson like cattle is branded in NM, and as an advertising man on Madison Avenue brands a product, as a warning to anyone else who is thinking of endorsing Obama. He wants people to associate the names Richardson and Judas. If you think something more than this, please explain it to this overly literal person.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 03/26/2008
- hopefulintexas See Profile I'm a Fan of hopefulintexas

i could be wrong, but i thought carville inserted an odd reference along the lines of, "just like cattle are branded on some ranch in new mexico, bill richardson needs to be branded as what he is."
i get the real point, but i thought--and could be imagining--that he specifically mentioned not only cattle but a "ranch." that struck me as odd.
i may be overanalyzing and "misremembering."
it just seemed like carville was trying to relate a message within his message. he was SOO vicious and unrepentant, all looking in the camera and standing by his initial ridiculousness... just wondering if anyone else heard anything about a "ranch" and wondered if there was anything to it. (not that i care, honestly; i don't care if the clintons bought him a pony--or a ranch--or what--i think bill r did the right thing and carville is a slimeball.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 03/26/2008
- ChimpmasterDJ See Profile I'm a Fan of ChimpmasterDJ

The Clintonista notion of "loyalty" is really one of fealty, and is unmatched in modern times by any other oganization other than, perhaps, the Mafia. And for the same reasons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 03/25/2008
- dollphingurl See Profile I'm a Fan of dollphingurl

tru dat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 03/26/2008
- olderdem See Profile I'm a Fan of olderdem

Why do the superdelegates continue to put up with the Clintons and their goon squad. Put an end to it and go with Obama. You know that's the way its going anyway. Go with Obama, and let the Clintons have their primaries. It won't make a difference anyway. Bill Clinton disgraced his family, Al Gore, his party, his country. What did we get for it. George Bush. Now Hillary is at it again. Will her slash and burn tactics get us McCain?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 03/25/2008
- Chris7982 See Profile I'm a Fan of Chris7982

He is a JOKE!!!!!! Loyalty is important to the folks around the HRC camp...we have had loyalty that trumps everything else for 8 years...I say enough!!! let us change the tone of politics as Obama said and get our voices heard by the Superdelegates..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 03/25/2008
- XYZ See Profile I'm a Fan of XYZ

What your seeing is the death of the DLC don't think they won't go quietly in the night. This is why the serpentine voice of Carvelle has came out he is and will be the Clinton hit man. I don't know what the Clintons could possibly have on all the Supers, but if you absolve them from power they will not have power to influence you.

The Clintons are floundering on the stick, as they are being sucked dry of money by all the sleazy dems and polls frisking them for re-election money. They will not be able to wither the storm that Obama is about to unleash on them, with his grass roots support base. Clintons now have to run ads for what 3-4 weeks, they cannot afford that. They owe everyone money, and eventually these people will want to get paid. They know if they don't get Hillary nominated they will never be paid back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 03/25/2008
- johnnygoodwud See Profile I'm a Fan of johnnygoodwud

mr. garlic bulb head, is alot like hillary and bill and her band of thugs,,,,,,,,,'hey we're entitled'. arrogant, self-serving, and so full of themselves, it's pretty pathetic. james, you hooked that bald nob of yours to the wrong wagon dude. hillary is sinking a slow death. this woman, and you have no self-respect. good riddens, obama was right all along, you are typical wash. politics and the country has said enough to you, hillary, and bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 03/25/2008
- drewdawgsea See Profile I'm a Fan of drewdawgsea

I wonder if the Democratic establishment got turned off by Carville's message the other day. I personally think that his comments were planted by the Clinton's as a threat to anyone else thinking of backing Obama. Almost as if they were trying to say that we have information about all of you and we can damage you. I wonder if the Democrats are now responding because they don't like being threatened. Wonder why no other news organization picked up on that as a threat because he himself clearly said it served its purpose. What purpose could he possibly be talking about??? Anythings possible when the Clinton's are involved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 03/25/2008
- Egghead See Profile I'm a Fan of Egghead

The more I look at Carville, the more he looks like Lord Voldemort with glasses to me. Maybe he's wearing contacts to cover up the red eyes. No wonder he's bummed out. It must have been comfy speaking out of the back of Bill Clinton's head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 03/25/2008
- Syco See Profile I'm a Fan of Syco

He reminds me of Skeletor

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 03/26/2008
- DQuinn See Profile I'm a Fan of DQuinn

LOL I never thought about that--but you are right! He who must not be named even has the shrill voice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 03/26/2008