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Matt Miller

Posted: January 20, 2010 09:26 PM

Test Your Understanding of American Politics

What's Your Reaction:

Given:

  • Massachusetts' bipartisan health care reform a few years ago is the model for what Obama and the Democrats have been on the verge of passing in Washington.
  • Scott Brown supported the bipartisan Massachusetts health care reform (which has given the state near-universal coverage)
  • Scott Brown opposes the Democrats' health care reform in Washington, and told voters he'd be the 41st vote to stop it.
  • Massachusetts voters, who overwhelmingly support the Massachusetts health care reform, have sent Scott Brown to Washington to stop Washington from enacting at a national level the popular plan Massachusetts enacted a few years ago.


Which of the following explains Scott Brown's victory over Martha Coakley? (Maybe I'm missing something, but I think these are the only three options):

1) Scott Brown is a disingenuous idiot.

2) Massachusetts voters are confused idiots.

3) I'm an idiot, for expecting logic or reason to play any role in American political life at all.

 
 
 
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11:17 AM on 01/24/2010
I hope all the democrats boil it down the way you do. This type of self-imposed coma will guarantee a major upset come November.

The weird mantra "people obviously just want us to keep doing the same thing, only faster" and the pompous "the voters must be ignorant if they have disagreed with our direction" are the only two statements coming from the left about Massachusetts. Yours is a variation of the second. As an average American, I perceive the left as either breaching with reality (those in the first camp) or megalomaniacs who are going to run over the top of the public will because they think they know better what's good for us (those in the second camp). Either way it spells disaster for the democrats if they don't wake up soon.
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
02:32 PM on 01/23/2010
The choices presented are naively simplistic. I suspect that the voters in Massachusetts are simply pissed off with the whole process in Washington. They see that the Congress is basically bought and paid for by not just the insurance lobby but also the financial interests. The interests of the average person are basically neglected. I suspect that many voted for Brown as an opposition vote.

Obama's failure is one of appearing (and appearances count for a great deal) of preserving the status quo that he inherited from the Bush Administration. Frankly, if I were a resident of Massachusetts, I would have voted for Brown!
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notb observer
Technically it's a micro auto-bio...
01:41 AM on 01/22/2010
I don't generally like multiple choice tests because they often simplify more complex questions. This election was not simply about health care reform, it was about a long series of important promises that Obama made during the campaign and has failed to deliver on. Not only has he failed to deliver, but in some cases, he has continued along the same track as the previous Administration... In the case of health care and financial reform, many would prefer doing nothing rather than enabling more of the same with new legislation that would in fact increase the power of the corporate elites.
Many disenchanted Dems did not bother to vote, while the opportunity for a high visibility upset was a strong motivator for those Republicans who apparently want a return to the bad old days of Bush.
Brown will only be around for 2 years, and I doubt he will do anything other than join the obstructionist ranks of his colleagues when he is sworn in.
This election was the proverbial "warning shot across the bow" of the Democratic party, and the voters of Massachusetts loaded a circus clown named Brown into their cannon instead of a cannon ball...
12:56 AM on 01/22/2010
Concerning Matt Miller's statement .... Given: "Massachusetts voters, have sent Scott Brown to Washington to stop Washington from enacting (a national health care plan)......."
I HOPE the Mass voters rejected the SENATE HC plan, because it MANDATED 30mil new customers to the HC companies with no cost/monopoly reform of any import while asking the middle/working class to make sacrificies by gettin taxed for their HC plans. And this in a time of recession. The wealthy and the HC companies made no sacrifice.
What's going on here ...... ??
The republicans could win the 2010-12 election knocking that senate bill (that they'll vote against)! And they'd be right (scary thought).
I do not want health care reform AT ANY COST (to the middle class or otherwise). I want a public option, not a fatally flawed plan that probably wouldn't be fixed anytime soon given the presidents lackluster performance and the republicans entrenchment. Obama made no attempt to "push" for Dorgan's Drug Reimportation amendment which several dems (31) did not vote for.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/12/15/dorgan-reimportation-amendment-up-for-a-vote/
What ..... dems didn't vote for a bill that would have saved the public 120mil + ?
What's going on here?
Obama's overall competence notwithstanding, he was "hired" for "CHANGE"! This is "Business as Usual" ... !!! This is not .... "Change I Can Count On" ... !!!!
Also, not all change is improvement... !!! I hope that's what the Mass. vote was about.
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ECBA88
08:11 PM on 01/21/2010
Well, since most voters described their primary voting issue as the economy, and described being unhappy with the Democrats' action so far on economic (and especially wall st) issues, and Martha Coakley did little to emphasize her differences with the party mainstream (if there were any) on that front, it is nothing less than hilarious that you assume this election was about health care based on no evidence.

Those who did present opinions about the health care bill were generally not asked their feelings on the Massachusetts model, but complained that the national bill circulating in the Senate does less than they expected from the Obama administration. They may be satisfied with their current status, but expect a Democratic President to go somewhat beyond the reforms Mitt Romney enacted. Is this really that complex?
07:18 PM on 01/21/2010
I have no problem with these republicans, as long as they don't pretend to be American. God bless em'.
07:09 PM on 01/21/2010
You don't sound like an idiot but definitely #3.
05:40 PM on 01/21/2010
Or #4, logic does play a part, and you could ultimately figure out the reasons why people voted the way they did, but many of the reasons have nothing to do with political issues; rather they have to do with appearance (Brown is in good shape for his age, and his entire family is attractive), celebrity (his daughter was an American Idol contestant), and name recognition (this got Coakley the primary win). Of course, very few people will admit to having voted the way they did for those reasons, so proving it would be difficult without administering truth serum.
04:39 PM on 01/21/2010
Sadly, it must be 3.
04:38 PM on 01/21/2010
While all three of the statements may be true, none of them adequately explain the outcome of the election.

I think your post sets up the ultimate question with a string of false premises. Now I am not from, nor do I know anyone from Massachusetts, but I suspect that either...

- the Massachusetts' health care reform is NOT the model for what the Democrats have been on the verge of passing.
- Massachusetts voters DO NOT overwhelmingly support the Massachusetts health care reform.
-or-
- the voters have sent Scott Brown to Washington to stop Washington from enacting at a national level the NOT SO popular Massachusetts plan.
-or-
- they sent him to stop at a national level what they no longer need.
-or-
- they couldn't give a crap about health care, and something else is at play.
-or-
- elections are rigged, it doesn't have anything to do with the voters.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
ECBA88
08:00 PM on 01/21/2010
Davidly-
Pretty sure if Massachusetts state level elections were rigged, the Democratic machine would be in control of them, and the results would look different than polls prior to the election, which they didn't.

I think your "something else is at play" statement is correct, more above.
04:37 PM on 01/21/2010
If those are the only options you see, you are truly not looking very hard.
05:09 PM on 01/21/2010
Agreed. I can think of a good reason just off the top of my head - to express their anger toward Obama and Dems for bailout of the rich and doing next to nothing for the rest of the country. This is a lazy blog at best, or intentionally biased at worst.
03:52 PM on 01/21/2010
Could easily apply to Obama's victory.
02:51 PM on 01/21/2010
You losers don't get it. MA is like the rest of the independents, in that the bluster and messianic regime has been exposed for what it always was: typical Chicago politics with over-reaching disastrous policies that will destroy the country.

Between now and Nov. you'll come to see the ramifications of that realization.

Sleep tight
02:35 PM on 01/21/2010
The media treats the phrase "Who would you rather sit down and have a beer with?" as a joke, but it's no joke. For some voters, it's the most important quality. I'll bet a lot of the folks who voted for Brown had previously voted for Kennedy.
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TheIndependenceParty
Cranky yankee and a rehabilitated ex-Republican
01:29 PM on 01/21/2010
Then again there is the obvious fact that Massachusetts voters have already solved their concerns for healthcare reform, ... so should we consider:

4) The outcome of the election in Massachusetts was a sign that the people of Massachusetts felt their current system was far better than the Senate version that was being railroaded through Congress

5) The election was a mandate on something else altogether, for example the Democrats unholy alliance with Lobbyists and Big Corporations

Leaving out the more obvious answers makes the test harder to pass!
02:35 PM on 01/21/2010
Healthcare legislation is a big issue for everyone, maybe somewhat less so in MA.
The opportunity to get in the way of the Demos in DC by virtue of a dramatic vote in
MA was too big for all sorts of interests to pass up, and the Demo response was
too feeble. And Coakley is 'The School Marm' while Brown is 'Studley Do-Right'.

Could it be this is a vast left-wing plot to get Sarah Pailin' out of the headlines for good?
03:00 PM on 01/21/2010
Fanned! LMAO!!
04:41 PM on 01/21/2010
Gee,, I thought it was the Republicans who were beholden to the Lobbyists.
It was certainly the Supreme Court Five who opened the door to Corporate
domination of campaigns.