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Banned Under Bush, Muslim Scholar Tariq Ramadan Returns to US

Posted: 04/ 8/10 10:23 AM ET

A lightning rod in discussions of Muslim identity in both Europe and the United States, Swiss-born scholar Tariq Ramadan has returned to the United States for a series of lectures. His visa was formerly revoked by the State Department in February of 2004.

Ramadan says he was kept out because of "The fact that I was very critical about the US's foreign policy." Critics claimed he donated to a Hamas-linked charity, and those were the grounds the Bush State Department banned him under, though the charity wasn't officially associated with terror by the US until after Ramadan donated to it. Now, under a new administration, Hillary Clinton has formally lifted the ban on Ramadan's travel to the United States.

"I just had to wait for one hour," at customs, Ramadan said during in a phone interview after he landed yesterday. "Nothing special."

But the years-long debate over Ramadan's exclusion -- and, for his vociferous critics, Ramadan himself -- has been extraordinary. His speech tonight at Cooper Union in New York City, sponsored by the ACLU, the PEN American Center and others who fought to bring him here, promises to reignite the controversy. So does a new book by writer Paul Berman out this month that takes aim against Ramadan for allegedly refusing to condemn the stoning of women, and supposed anti-Semitism, among other charges.

Ramadan is descended from a line of religious thinkers and activists with extensive credentials: his grandfather founded the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt in 1928, and his father was exiled from the country by Nasser. Out of Egypt his father went to Switzerland, where Tariq Ramadan was born in Geneva in 1962. A Swiss citizen with strong Muslim beliefs, Ramadan has very publicly sought to reconcile both backgrounds.

About recent developments in his homeland, Ramadan evinces some distress. The November 2009 referendum banning minaret construction there was "a betrayal" of European values.

For some people in Switzerland, France, and the Netherlands, he says, "the only accepted Muslim seems to be the invisible Muslim," and the problem will in the short term get worse. "The situation is quite bad for the time being."

The gloomy prophets of a coming "Eurabia," he says, are obsessed with the idea that Muslims "could be a threat to our secular society -- while forgetting the very essence of secular society," freedom of expression and religion.

"The Muslims in all western countries are abiding by the law. At the end of the day we're seeing that the Muslims aren't the ones changing the laws" -- it's people who have passed the minaret ban, and who want to pass a burqa ban in France.

After earning a PhD from the University of Geneva (his dissertation was on Nietzsche) Ramadan traveled to Cairo, where he studied Islam at the hallowed Al Azhar University. Since then he has held himself out as a voice of reformist Islam, a man seeking to create a bridge between Europe and Muslims, especially Muslims in Europe.

For another visitor to Cairo seeking to ease cultural divides -- President Obama, who gave a major speech there last year -- Ramadan seems to feel guarded optimism.

"I just think that this government is coming back to some of the values that they're advocating, nothing more, nothing less," Ramadan says.

Of the recent flaps between the White House and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, Ramadan asks, "Are these tensions leading towards new policies for Israel, and for Israel to change its policy? This is not happening, not yet. And to tell you, I'm not expecting for anything under this first [Obama term]."

In the wake of the Fort Hood shootings and the thwarted plot to bomb New York City subways, some say Obama should be concerned with the potential rise in 'homegrown' terrorism. Ramadan believes that, "the great majority of the people are already are already integrated, so we should not look at tiny groups at the margin as a symbol that people are failing to integrate."

Ramadan's critics, from the nationalist right to the feminist left in both Europe and the US, claim that his brand of integration is far from sufficient. Bernard-Henri Lévy has argued that Ramadan is an anti-Semite for writing a condemnation of French Jewish intellectuals' support of the Iraq War (at least one of the intellectuals Ramadan condemned isn't actually Jewish). Journalist Ian Buruma, on the other hand, says BHL's pique was "vastly overblown," and Ramadan has frequently and explicitly repudiated anti-Semitism.

Perhaps most famously, in 2003 Nicolas Sarkozy angrily charged that Ramadan excused the stoning of adulterous women in Muslim majority countries.

Ramadan countered that he had called for a "moratorium" on the practice -- and all capital punishment -- as the first step towards further debate within the Muslim community.

This is far from satisfying for his detractors, including the formidable writer Paul Berman. In a lengthy 2007 piece for the New Republic, Berman expressed his disdain for a man who refuses to "unambiguously condemn the stoning to death of Muslim women."

Berman has adapted that article into a new book out this month about Ramadan and his supporters, called The Flight of the Intellectuals. It is guaranteed not to reach a positive assessment. But even Berman supports Ramadan's new visa, though somewhat grudgingly.

As he told Tablet: "It's a good move for the U.S. to encourage freedom of speech and open debate. It's a mistake, however, to imagine that he has positive contributions to make."

For his part, Ramadan seems characteristically unruffled by the attention. He rejects the notion that Berman's book is anything new.

"Paul Berman, I've never met him, but when I read what he wrote, it seemed that he was copying what was already written in Europe," Ramadan says, referring to the several polemics against him already published there.

And, about that much-noted debate with Sarkozy over stoning, Ramadan finds a significant irony in where the two sparring partners are seven years later. It likely won't impress Berman, but for his foil it's telling.

Ramadan is "on the ground," fighting for his death penalty moratorium around the world, and according to him "banned from six Muslim majority countries because of this." Sarkozy is the president of France, which maintains good relations with Saudi Arabia -- a kingdom where Ramadan is not welcome, and where women are still threatened with stoning.

 

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A lightning rod in discussions of Muslim identity in both Europe and the United States, Swiss-born scholar Tariq Ramadan has returned to the United States for a series of lectures. His visa was former...
A lightning rod in discussions of Muslim identity in both Europe and the United States, Swiss-born scholar Tariq Ramadan has returned to the United States for a series of lectures. His visa was former...
 
 
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05:55 PM on 04/11/2010
Muslims believe in the same God we do, and believe in the blessed Virgin Mary and honor her also. Abraham had 2 sons 1 born of a slave woman, who gave birth to Abrahams first son called Ishamel, the second son of Abraham came from his wife Sarah, name Issac.
God promised Abraham with a great blessing, because of his faithfulness and righteousness to God, a savior of the world would come from his first born son.

Muslims believe the first son Ishamael received the promise and blood line of the savior would come, Moham is that blood line. We believe it was Issac blood line, Jesus as savior. Muslims believe it was Ishamel blood line the savior would come and is Moham. Moses married a muslim woman from the tribe of Ishamel, blood line.
05:45 PM on 04/11/2010
He was on CNN today. I am RCC problem is we have been feed and do not under stand Muslims, we are feed and told only what to believe others are. Makes wars easier to be accepted and started.
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02:48 AM on 04/11/2010
I won't be happy until Bush gets prosecuted, not for the crimes, instead for destroying the image of the US for at least the next five decades. Nobody out there believes that our democracy values human rights. any more.
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Flying Dutchman
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04:59 AM on 04/09/2010
Tariq Ramadam is a problem maker. He was active in Holland for a while, until we found out he was working for the Iranian government, that was not according to the things we agreed on. I experienced him as being a wolf in sheep's clothing (that's a English expression, isn't it?). He is a bit the same as those right wing fundamentalist Christians, eat your cake and having it to, only delusional people think that's a possibility;
He wants the liberty to say whatever he wants, he claims western freedom of speech allows him to do so, BUT (and this is very important), he rejects western criticism on the Islam, his ever returning argument is that people should respect religion and behavior that results from one's religion. I can't take that serious, freedom of speech works both ways. For somebody who claims to be a reformer, that's quite fundamental behavior. By the way, for somebody who wants to reform Islam, he spends a awful lot of time in non-Islam countries, maybe he can better start at the source with his reformation.

I know a lot of enlightened Muslims, they are really great people, but Tariq Ramadam isn't one of them.
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05:33 AM on 04/09/2010
Hi flying Dutchman,

I am not fan of Tariq Ramadan whom I find obnoxious, arrogant and self-righteous, but he is no worse than many of Israel's supporters who speak out on these comments threads.

However, I do NOT see him as a proponent of radical Islam but as a sort of militant European Islam. His entire effort is devoted to dealing with the sorts of issues European Muslims face as the struggle to maintain the cultural and religious identity from their old homeland in their home host country.

All of that is fine and normal, Dutch, and we should all defend his freedom of speech.

Why? Because his freedom of speech is also OUR freedom to listen to whomever we want.

One Jewish neocon on this very thread has obnoxiously justified his prohibition from entering the United States based on his views critical of Israel.

Ramadan's interdiction's from entering the US and respecting his contract with Notre Dame University was an INFRINGEMENT ON THE FREE SPEECH OF ALL AMERICANS.
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07:48 AM on 04/09/2010
Dear Yank,

I totally agree on your reply. Your comment: "His entire effort is devoted to dealing with the sorts of issues European Muslims face as the struggle to maintain the cultural and religious identity from their old homeland in their home host country." is spot on. But I've to make a remark on it. I have to go now so I'm not able to reply right now, but I will reply later.
02:06 AM on 04/09/2010
I think that if you read the Koran you will find Muslims are directed to respect Jews and Christians. But this guy may be an anti-Zionist. Anti-Zionist is not anti-semitic. In fac some Jews are anti-Zionist. It really helps if you read the Koran or visit a Moslim country.

The things we Westerners particularly dislike such as the hijab and niqab are customs and not demands from the Koran. Like the Bible, the Koran is subject to interpretations and has apparent contradictions. I don't think you would find a stoning in a country such as Kuwait or Turkey. And you don't find stoning in the west or Israel though the Bible does say disobedient sons should be stoned.
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06:15 PM on 04/08/2010
What else is new BHL criticizing someone who he does not agree with and yet be a cheerleader for Polanski..we got so much overdose here at HP itself..so I would go with Tariq anyday...women stoning is something I don't agree with or any sharia practices but discrediting someone because BHL does not approve of him is not going to happen
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03:10 PM on 04/08/2010
Welcome back! :)
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Roy Piper
02:28 PM on 04/08/2010
Any Republican who claims to want to stick to the original intent of the founding fathers, like myself, should be completely behind the kinds of criticisms he has against our interventionist foreign policy. The Tea Baggers should join up with the Progressives on one issue where each SHOULD be in-line.... getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan and stopping our constant interference in foreign nations' affairs.
02:45 PM on 04/08/2010
I haven't yet worked out if the tea-baggers are dumb libertarians or simply a Karl Rove-style smash and burn the Dems group.

What do you think?
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03:41 PM on 04/08/2010
Tea Baggers are only about 6-12 months old as a group. I think their emotion is running ahead of their thought process (as evidenced by the "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!" comments.) But.... they are starting to educate themselves from what I can tell and if the Left keeps telling themselves that this group are just dumb fringe types, they might be in for quite a shock come November. Every single one of the Tea baggers will probably vote, and that is a much bigger voting turnout than the Dems will get from college kids or minorities.
02:16 AM on 04/09/2010
The Teabaggers misconception is that they represent the spirit of the American Revolution, when actually they stand for the politics of 21st Century extreme right. They would have been supporters of the British in the 1700's........not revolutionary patriots. In that sense they should be called Torries. They eventually went back to Britain or Canada. OMG both of those countries have socialized medicine.
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02:18 PM on 04/08/2010
Is this a sign sanity is returning to the US?
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08:04 PM on 04/08/2010
Hopefully so... We'll know better depending on what he has to say now.
They are broadcasting it live (now) on http://www.pen.org/page.php/prmID/1990
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01:01 PM on 04/08/2010
"Ramadan is "on the ground," fighting for his death penalty moratorium around the world, and according to him "banned from six Muslim majority countries because of this." Sarkozy is the president of France, which maintains good relations with Saudi Arabia -- a kingdom where Ramadan is not welcome, and where women are still threatened with stoning."

That says it all, the hypocrisy and bigotry of the West.
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08:10 AM on 04/09/2010
Hello All,

Maintaining good relations with bad govts, such as Saudi Arabia, does NOT "say it all" about the West or other countries which also maintain good relations with the oil-rich kingdom!

Countries have maintained relations with their rivals and enemies ever since countries came into being.

Picking and choosing our facts and then forming full throttled opinions around them is the GW Bush school of politics. Sadly, I see more than a few HP posters follow his example.
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11:21 AM on 04/09/2010
Yes, I agree that countries have maintained "relations" with their rival, but those relations are "bad" relations.

Iran which may not be a true democracy is much better than Saudi. US has a relationship with Iran also, bud a "bad" relationship.

How much time and money US spent in toppling a semi-democratic Govt. of Iran compared to Brutal Monarchy which has the worst human right record?

All I am trying to do is point out a double standard in the US foreign policy which probably I should not have done because its so obvious.
12:56 PM on 04/08/2010
another example of kowtowing to terrorists and giving them a platform to spew their views while denying the same rights to conservative Americans.
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01:44 PM on 04/08/2010
Some of those conservative Americans are terrorists, but are hesitantly referred to as such.
01:54 PM on 04/08/2010
lolz
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12:52 PM on 04/08/2010
There is hope that post-Bush some sanity will return to the world. America is about freedom and we are not free until all of us are free.
12:06 PM on 04/08/2010
Hey Tariq, great to see you back in the USA. I want to build a string of churches across the Middle East. Can you help me out ole buddy?
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01:16 PM on 04/08/2010
Aside from the nuts in the Gulf, I can't actually think of a middle eastern country that hasn't got churches. Perhaps you know of one?

I myself lived across from a rather vulgar gold-mosaic Greek Orthodox church when I lived in Damascus. Because I am not Greek Orthodox I had to walk a couple of blocks away to attend services elsewhere.
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01:22 PM on 04/08/2010
I take it back. I shouldn't have maligned the gulf states (Saudi Arabia excepted - I do so adore maligning Saudi Arabia) - I just checked, they've all got churches. Aden's got a really cool one from the 1630s.