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Mormon Temple Garments -- They're Not Magic

Posted: 07/14/2012 5:14 pm

Nobody really likes to talk about their underwear, and Mormons probably have better reason than most to be reticent. They don't even call it "underwear." The term they prefer is "garments," which is taken from the King James Bible, and gives these scraps of white cloth a formal name to go along with the vaguely talismanic character they hold in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They don't look like anything special: a white T-shirt and boxer briefs, slightly longer than average, distinctive in nothing much but their color and the fact that all adult, devout Mormons, men and women, wear them.

Mormons don't use the word "underwear" to talk about their garments, and they certainly don't use the word "magic," or really believe that garments have any special powers to stop bullets or keep them from getting sick or serve as a sort of nylon-and-cotton flame retardant. There are stories of some of these things, like there are stories of the relics of Catholic saints curing epilepsy or blindness, but to most Mormons these are faith-promoting rumors, evocative but archaic folklore. The garments are a sign of devotion, a marker of faith, to be respected for the same reasons that it's considered rude to burn a Koran, but hardly mystical.

When confronted with raised eyebrows, Mormons often point to Jewish yarmulkes and tzitzit, or the communion dresses of Catholic children, or the turbans of Sikhs and collars of some Christian clergy. Sacred clothing is hardly an innovation Joseph Smith came up with, and surely mockery of a yarmulke or a Sikh turban would be horrifying and verboten in most of the tolerant Western world, even in the genealogically Protestant United States, where "religion" is supposed to be something that you believe, not something that you wear, and sacred clothing seems strange and exotic. But, of course, Mormon garments are underwear. In the determinedly public world of modern America underwear is rather less dignified - and more chuckle-inducing - than something you put on your head.

Mormons know this. Many of them find the garments as awkward as any other American might. They are manufactured by the church, and particularly for women, wearing them can be a chore: the cut might be slightly off, or the bottoms baggy, or the collar chafing. And, of course, garments mean that wearing a sleeveless dress flashes your underwear to the world, which is frustrating in Texas or Arizona. In the past forty years or so, covering the garments has become a marker of modesty for Mormons, particularly women, and sleeves are therefore essential. Combine that with the scoop neck garment shirt that many older Mormon men still wear, and you can usually pick out Mormons on vacation in Florida.

That is, in part, the point. When Bill Clinton fielded questions about his boxer shorts on MTV in 1992, there were lamentations for the American dignity the brash young candidate and his audience of chortling teenagers had flushed down the toilet. Mormons, unlike Bill Clinton, don't want to talk about their underwear. They are given their first pair of garments in young adulthood, after they participate in the endowment ceremony, a sacrament comparable to Catholic First Communion. This ceremony takes place in the temple, which is closed to non-Mormons, and Mormons are told not to speak too much about it outside the temple. The garments themselves are a token of that ceremony, and the fact that they are undergarments, worn beneath clothes, is a reminder of its private intimacy.

The endowment is a sacred drama depicting the fall of Adam and Eve from God and the Garden of Eden and their eventual return to heaven. Along the way, Mormons are periodically told to view those first parents as models for themselves. The word "garment" derives from Genesis 3:24, in which the narrator tells us that God, having just cast his children from the Garden of Eden, clothed them in a "garment of skins" before sending them into the bleak and painful world. This, then, is what the garments mean for Mormons: they can be bunchy and uncomfortable, and they remind both Mormons and everybody else that these people are of a different faith; many young Mormons have felt a moment of panic in the locker room. But the clothing reminds them always of their faith that God offers care, and that this land east of Eden might be less alien than it appears.

Click through the slideshow to see most and least Mormon states in the United States:

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  • Utah

    69,124 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Salt_Lake_LDS_Temple.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Idaho

    26,108 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Idaho_Falls_Temple.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Wyoming

    11,143 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons.

  • Nevada

    6,486 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Las_Vegas_Temple_1.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Arizona

    6,147 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Mesa_Temple.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Hawaii

    5,137 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/LDS_Laie_Hawaii_Temple_front_view.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Montana

    4,698 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/MTempleafar.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Alaska

    4,530 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Anchorage_Alaska_Temple_by_artchase.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Washington

    3,975 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Columbia_river_temple.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Oregon

    3,862 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portland_Oregon_Temple.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • New Mexico

    3,285 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Albuquerque_New_Mexico_Temple_by_a4gpa.jpeg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Colorado

    2,833 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Denver_LDSTemple.JPG" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • California

    2,050 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fresno_Temple_rear.JPG" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Nebraska

    1,281 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Winter_Quarters_Temple.JPG" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • South Dakota

    1,205 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • Kansas

    1,198 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • Texas

    1,178 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dallas_LDS_Temple_by_David_B.jpeg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Oklahoma

    1,147 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oklahoma_city_lds_mormon_temple.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Virginia

    1,122 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • Missouri

    1,103 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St._Louis_Missouri_Temple_by_Ella_Minnow_Peas,_left_frame_only.jpeg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • North Dakota

    1,030 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BismarkTemple7.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Arkansas

    945 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Petit_Jean_State_Park_view.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • West Virginia

    902 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • South Carolina

    808 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Columbia_South_Carolina.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Iowa

    808 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • North Carolina

    805 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RaleighTemple.JPG" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Maine

    804 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_beach_in_maine_on_a_clear_day.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Georgia

    801 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Atlanta_Georgia_Temple_04.07.07.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Maryland

    738 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Washington_D.C._Temple_At_Dusk.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Kentucky

    737 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Louisville_Kentucky_Temple_by_Foto71.jpeg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Florida

    728 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Orlando_Florida_Temple.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Tennessee

    720 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Memphis_Tennessee_Temple_01.JPG" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Alabama

    719 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Birmingham_Alabama_Temple_by_nateOne,_cropped.jpeg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Mississippi

    715 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • Vermont

    701 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Burlington,_Vermont.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Indiana

    637 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • Louisiana

    630 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Louisiana_State_Capital_at_night.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • New Hampshire

    625 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_hampshire_in_autumn_.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Minnesota

    577 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St._Paul_Minnesota_Temple_in_March_2008.jpeg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Delaware

    538 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • Ohio

    508 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Columbus_Ohio_Temple_(cropped).png" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Illinois

    435 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chicago_Illinois_Temple3.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Wisconsin

    431 Mormons per 100,000 people.

  • Michigan

    428 Mormons per 100,000 people. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Detroit_Michigan_Temple.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Connecticut

    419 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Nhskyline_eastshore.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • New York

    403 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ManhattanTemple.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Pennsylvania

    392 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • Massachusetts

    381 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bostontemple.JPG" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • Rhode Island

    364 Mormons per 100,000 persons. <br> Credit: Wikimedia Commons. Original photo <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/N3419822_37931820_6163Providence.jpg" target="_hplink">here</a>.

  • New Jersey

    360 Mormons per 100,000 persons.

  • District of Columbia

    70 Mormons per 100,000 people.

 
 
 
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Unum
In progress
02:49 PM on 09/11/2012
It seems Huffington Post is trying to get into someone else's pants. Interesting and offensive to say the least.
07:46 PM on 08/27/2012
Religious people tend to be rather weird.
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netzach
Voiding warranties for 42 years
03:41 PM on 08/28/2012
Mormophobes tend to be especially weird.
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arcanumseeker
Is it schizoid paranoia or just existential blues?
05:41 PM on 08/28/2012
So are the Anti-phobes.
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netzach
Voiding warranties for 42 years
02:21 PM on 08/25/2012
"[In] the Pistis Sophia, a very early Christian writing, written in the third century but sounding as if it belongs to the forty-day literature [we learn more]. When the Lord spoke to the disciples after the resurrection, he formed a prayer circle: his disciples, men and women, stood around behind Jesus, who himself stood at the altar, thus facing, as it were, the four corners of the world, with his disciples who were all clothed in garments of linen (quoting the disciples). Jesus proceeded to give the prayer. The Pistis Sophia claims to be derived from 2 Jeu, a book allegedly written by Enoch and then hidden up in the cleft of a rock. Second Jeu says: "All the apostles were clothed in linen garments, . . . their feet were placed together and they turned themselves to the four corners of the world." And Jesus, taking the place of Adam, proceeded to instruct them in all the necessary ordinances. The point is that when they formed a prayer circle, they always mentioned "clothed in their garments" or "clothed in white linen." -- Hugh Nibley, in "Temple and Cosmos: Beyond This Ignorant Present."
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
10:53 AM on 08/28/2012
and the relevacne is that these garments are equal to majik underwear?
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netzach
Voiding warranties for 42 years
03:41 PM on 08/28/2012
The relevance is that people have been wearing religious vestments with marks on them for a very, VERY long time. Including Christ and the Apostles.
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arcanumseeker
Is it schizoid paranoia or just existential blues?
05:44 PM on 08/28/2012
Do you hold All Heretical Teaching to be True? Sure does seem like it.
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netzach
Voiding warranties for 42 years
09:07 PM on 08/28/2012
I hold that what the Greek philosophers did with the simple teachings of the Saviour, during the 2nd thru 6th centuries - was more heretical than anything that happened before.
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netzach
Voiding warranties for 42 years
02:05 PM on 08/25/2012
When I'm asked the "boxers of briefs" question - I just say "Depends."
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
11:44 AM on 08/08/2012
musical tribute to the underwear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96g5kzPcuVg
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
09:49 AM on 08/08/2012
Temple Garment Comments
From a 50 year former Church Member

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7kFfipZ1qU&feature=relmfu
09:20 AM on 08/06/2012
thanks for sharing.
04:48 AM on 07/31/2012
I am amazed at how ignorant people are. It is sad that society has arrived to a point that they believe wrong, bad and sensationalized information whether it be religion. politics, technology, science, etc. This article was well written trying to explain something with intelligence and sincerity. It's true: people who are rude and crude and put down others do so to make themselves feel better about themselves.
The downfall of this country is due to the intolerance, incivility, rudeness, and close-mindedness people show to others.
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
09:25 PM on 07/31/2012
Perhaps the Author could do a pice on the holy use of the pentagrams on the temple.
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Tuav Six
05:17 PM on 08/21/2012
Pentagrams? Yeah, they're on the walls outside of some of the older temples but they have nothing to do with what goes on inside. I'm an ex-mo, former temple worker, and while I can enjoy knocking the Mormons, I'll also defend them. I've heard Churchy-fundamentalists use this thing about the pentagram. It's bogus. It's used in the religion of Wicca or Witchcraft, but even there, it's meaning and symbolism is quite beautiful [google Wicca and pentagram and ask them], and don't listen to what the fundies want you to believe. The pentagram is not nearly as insidious as right wing churchianity and their political party, the Repub......oh, you know who I mean.
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netzach
Voiding warranties for 42 years
01:46 PM on 08/25/2012
Or the use of pentagrams on the American flag.
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PresReagan
Wake up America !
11:53 AM on 07/30/2012
This is a good article, I rarely read an article on Huff that I can say was not heavily opinionated or leaning one way or the other (mostly leaning left).

I also enjoy the hypocrisy that is flung all over through the comments on articles like this, religion is a very debated topic, but the way that non-religious or anti-church people come out against things such as this is interesting to me. Christians have to accept homosexuality, but others do not have to accept or try to understand religious activities or symbols. I cannot say that gay marriage is unacceptable, but hundreds on this post can make fun of or disregard a persons choice to accept a doctrine or believe in a God. And that is some how OK, or not relevant.
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
09:27 PM on 07/31/2012
the underwear and homosexuality are equal?
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PresReagan
Wake up America !
02:52 PM on 08/03/2012
Obviously not on the Huff
07:35 PM on 07/25/2012
I'm LDS and appreciate this thoughtful article. Because they are more bulky, garments are usually less comfortable than typical underclothing. But we view what may sometimes be a sacrifice of comfort as something more... symbolism of our promises to God and His promises to us. It is a very tangible reminder and has definitely helped me in my goals to live a chaste and honest life.

I have only read a few comments on the comment board, but the ones I have read bring to mind ignorance and misunderstanding. I find it unusual the way people want to pick apart religious traditions and in many cases openly make fun of them. It's notable how many people I have met in my life that are surprised by how "normal" I am (yet also a Mormon!). I hope I never make a comment that makes someone feel misunderstood because of their religious beliefs and traditions. As I look at various religions and religious practices of people of other faiths, I can't imagine talking about them in the disrespectful and ignorant way people are commenting on this board. But I can take it for what it is and try to laugh about it or not worry much about it.
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
08:41 AM on 07/26/2012
Do you really think it is unusual for folks to take stock in ficticous works such as the BOM and testimony about salamanders turned into toads with devine knowledge?
06:28 PM on 08/06/2012
@xxixpines:
"Do you really think it is unusual for folks to take stock in ficticous works such as the BOM and testimony about salamanders turned into toads with devine knowledge?"

As you know, the "salamander" story is a 20th century forgery that has nothing to do with Mormon origins. As you also know, E. D. Howe's "toad" story is equally bogus; it's just older.

But bogus is how you like your stories, isn't it?
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NYnotLiberal
Don't crush that Dwarf, hand me the pliers.
12:10 PM on 07/25/2012
I'm not Morman, but I used to get underwear for Christmas.....not exactly a thrilling gift.
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netzach
Voiding warranties for 42 years
02:27 PM on 08/25/2012
Perhaps you should ask Santa for a spell-checker.
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NYnotLiberal
Don't crush that Dwarf, hand me the pliers.
10:43 AM on 08/28/2012
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
07:22 AM on 07/25/2012
Thanks to Arcanumseeker

The Joseph Smith Nativity Scene.

Now thats Majik!

http://www.mrm.org/praise-to-the-man
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conveyeroftruth
It’s good to be the herald of truth!
12:18 PM on 07/25/2012
Thanks to Arcanumseeker for posting that link which shows that the Mormon Church places Jesus above Joseph Smith.

"We are the beneficiaries of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ, a work which had its earthly commencement with the birth of Joseph Smith, in the hills of Vermont on a December day in 1805. As we commemorate the birth of the baby in Bethlehem, the Savior of the world, may we also remember his messenger, Joseph Smith, and rejoice in his life and sacrifice."
http://www.mrm.org/praise-to-the-man

:-D
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arcanumseeker
Is it schizoid paranoia or just existential blues?
08:33 PM on 07/25/2012
This all goes back to the very foundation of the Mormon Church and its authority:
Salvation not through Jesus Christ, but Joseph Smith

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"
- Apostle George Q. Cannon, as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142

"No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith...every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are... [Joseph Smith] reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven. Many will exclaim—"Oh, that is very disagreeable! It is preposterous! We cannot bear the thought!" But it is true."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p.289-91

[There is] "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"
- Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
http://wonderwitch.blogspot.com/2007/11/mormons-worship-joseph-smith-more-than.html
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
08:23 AM on 07/26/2012
Worship of Joseph Smith is just that anyway you slice it. Which Jesus would you like the public to believe you put first?
Satans brother or the one that created the earth?
11:43 PM on 08/07/2012
Yes, Arcanum called that period display a "Nativity Scene." But let's not blame Arcanum; she was simply repeating what the anti Mor mon "ministry" (business) in question called it.

But of course, as anyone who has ever laid eyes on an actual "Nativity Scene" can tell, that mockup of a 19th century house interior isn't one. Even Arcanum herself ultimately admitted that rather non-controversial fact.

How about you, Pines? Can you see a baby? A mother? Shepherds? Magi? Lambs? Oxen? Asses?

Apart from those who insist, against the evidence, that there is a "nativity scene" in that picture, that is....
03:10 PM on 07/23/2012
Mormons believe that the garments can protect from temptation and evil. This is not magic but rather understanding that to wear the garment one most be committed to living a life which is in harmony with the teachings of Christ. The garment is an outward expression of an inner committment to follow Christ and through that reliance and faith in christ you can over come anything. The garment has significant and sacred symbolism.
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
07:15 PM on 07/23/2012
"The placing of magick talismans in underwear is common in witchcraft. (12) But please bear in mind, this is not a recent idea; it appears in classical grimoires in the British Museum which date back to the 16th century."

"After presenting our "temple recommends" (passes), we immediately were shunted into separate dressing areas – I went to a Washing and Anointing area. After removing all my clothing, my naked body was covered in a thin, white, poncho/sheet called a "shield."

Nudity in religious ceremony was not new to me. In fact, the shield was identical to the one I had worn when going through my initiation into the witchcraft Melchizedek Priesthood in Zion State Park outside Chicago. The only difference was that the shield I’d worn in witchcraft was black. (1) I’d been taught that the lower degrees of witchcraft wore black, but the highest degrees wore white. In fact, we used the term "The Great White brotherhood," to refer to high-level Magi. (2) Since I knew that this was to be a very high initiation, I expected the color to be white. "
Ettu
Micro-bio? I'll take mine without, please.
04:54 AM on 07/27/2012
Thank you for pointing out that Mormonism is most likely based in Witchcraft and Magick no matter how they try to whitewash it as just another form of Christianity. But far more disturbing is the issue involving their belief in maintaining, at all cost, a closed society. And, the secretive practices to which no one outside of the "church" is privy doesn't help their image either. In fact, it's my understanding that a non-Mormon may not even enter a Temple. I don't know of any other Christian religion that maintains a closed society open to its members only. So why do they feel the need to hide behind Christianity? And, what exactly is it that they are they hiding? Sorry, but Mormonism looks and sounds like a CULT and not just another branch of Christianity!
06:34 PM on 08/06/2012
And so we see yet another quote by xxixpines without a link or any attribution to enable anyone to check the source.

Why is that, Pines? What are you hiding?

Did you get it from Bill Schoebolen? Because he's a notorious charlatan. Just so you know.

And modern "witchcraft" ceremonies pose as old, but they're actually very recent. Considerably more recent than ours, in fact.
catmandoozy
Fed up with gullibility...
07:27 PM on 07/25/2012
Having been raised in Mormonism and having lived in Utah for nearly 8 decades it's always amused me that Mormons constantly tell stories about their neighbor's, cousin's, boss's, brother's, fiance's sister's neighbor being saved from "certain death" and all other manner of injuries and burns due to the wearing of the Mormon garments.
More than a few Mormons claim they were horribly burned in fires on most of their bodies EXCEPT where their garments were covering their skin.

If the garments were really supposed to be just a simple reminder to the wearer to "not sin" Mormons wouldn't need to tell these tall tales repeatedly from the pulpit and elsewhere. I suppose the story about the garments simply being a 'reminder' is more palatable to Gentiles during Romney's run for POTUS though. In Mormonism there is always a 'good' reason to Lie For The Lord.
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netzach
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03:19 PM on 08/25/2012
Not this Mormon - who knows from personal experience that they're no protection in a knife fight.
03:04 PM on 07/23/2012
When they say it protects them from temptation and evil it means that wearing the garment is an outer expression of an inner committment to follow Christ and when you remember that it becomes easier to handle temptations, evils and other life challenging moments.
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Debbie338
What we manifest is before us
10:06 AM on 07/23/2012
This article is attempting to dismiss the "magic" assertion as simply an ignorant insult to Mormons. However, according to the LDS Church, the garment "when properly worn...provides protection against temptation and evil". That sure sounds like "magic underwear" to me.

For those of us who find all religions guilty of magical thinking, the Mormon undergarments are a classic example.
04:27 PM on 07/24/2012
Though you could consider the garment providing "protection against temptation and evil" as.. "Since my garment is itchy and i'm aware of it, i'm also reminded to not sin and do evil things".
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xxixpines
Truth often causes wailing and gnashing of teeth
08:48 AM on 07/25/2012
If you require itchy underwear to remind you of this,

your mind is severely impaired.