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Are People With Autism More Likely to Be Atheists?

Posted: 06/01/2012 12:05 pm

In most religions and arguably anything worth being called a religion, God is not just an impersonal force or creator. He has a mind that humans can relate to. Maybe you're not gossiping on the phone with him late at night, but he has personality traits, thoughts, moods, and ways of communicating with you. If you didn't know what a mind was or how it worked, not only would you not understand people, but you would not understand God, and you would not be religious.

That's the theory, anyway. Scientists who study religion have come to agree that belief in God (or gods) relies on everyday social cognition: our ability, and propensity, to think about the minds of others (see chapters 6 and 7 of my book, The 7 Laws of Magical Thinking). This means that if you are autistic and unable to "mentalize," you would be an atheist. New research published this week in PLoS ONE provides fresh evidence for this claim.

But first, the existing evidence.

Jesse Bering, in a 2002 paper, noted that in autobiographical accounts written by people with high-functioning autism, God is more a principle than a person. He/it provides order but isn't much concerned with human affairs -- the idea of him satisfies the intellect rather than the emotions. Temple Grandin, for example, described God as the entanglement of millions of interacting particles.

In line with such a conception of the divine, Simon Baron-Cohen, who proposed the mind-blindness theory of autism, told me, "Sometimes I meet people with autism who are religious, but their motivation is driven more by the rules (the system) in theology rather than the anthropomorphizing."

One outcome of the ability to mentalize is the ability to think teleologically -- to see the purpose of objects or events. (Rocks and rainstorms have no purpose, but shovels and showering do.) I found one blog post by a woman with Asperger's syndrome who wrote of her childhood, "The world I perceived was a random, self-sufficient system. It wasn't built; it grew. (When I was little, I thought houses and roads were some kind of large plant that grew out of the ground; if you had told me people made them I would've been thunderstruck)." She didn't get that some things were created for a reason.

When people see an event as divine intervention, or a result of intelligent design, they're just letting their teleological bias run amok. They're attributing purpose where there is none. Bethany Heywood, in collaboration with Jesse Bering, found in her Ph.D. research that even atheists tend to say that certain things happened to them "for a reason" (e.g., to teach them a lesson). But subjects with Asperger's gave significantly fewer teleological responses than a control group did, and several even expressed confusion regarding the questions about purpose. One, misinterpreting a prompt for "a coincidence you saw meaning in," wrote, "In practical application, I wear nice clothes and make my hair presentable. Coincidentally people are more friendly towards me."

The strongest connection between atheism and autism before now was a paper presented at a conference last year by Catherine Caldwell-Harris and collaborators at Boston University. Survey respondents with high-functioning autism were more likely than control subjects to be atheists and less likely to belong to an organized religion. (They were also more likely to have religious ideas of their own construction, perhaps something similar to Temple Grandin's.) And atheists were higher on the autistic spectrum than Christians and Jews. But the researchers were not able to demonstrate that mentalizing deficits were responsible for the connection.

That's where the new paper comes in. Ara Norenzayan and Will Gervais of the University of British Columbia and Kali Trzesniewski of UC Davis report on four studies. The first study replicates the finding of the BU research: 12 autistic and 13 neurotypical adolescents took part, and the neurotypical subjects were 10 times as likely to strongly endorse God.

The other three studies went further. They included hundreds of participants from a variety of demographics in the U.S. and Canada and used various measures of belief in God and of mentalizing abilities. The results of all three followed the same pattern.

First, people with higher scores on the Autism Spectrum Quotient (items included "I am fascinated by numbers," and "I find social situations [difficult]") had weaker belief in a personal God. Second, reduced ability to mentalize mediated this correlation. (Mentalizing was measured with the Empathy Quotient, which assesses self-reported ability to recognize and react to others' emotions, and with a task that requires identifying what's being expressed in pictures of eyes. Systematizing -- interest in and aptitude for mechanical and abstract systems -- was correlated with autism but was not a mediator.) Third, men were much less likely than women to say they strongly believed in a personal God (even controlling for autism), and this correlation was also mediated by reduced mentalizing.

"It's hard to have an experience of God in your life unless you think of him as a person, with mental states, who you can pray to, who will answer your prayers, who cares about you," Norenzayan told me a couple years ago, when he was conducting this research.

He and his collaborators point out that mentalizing deficits are of course not the only path to atheism. There are also cultural and educational influences (say, exposure to other skeptics) and cognitive style (some people are more likely to use rationality to second-guess superstition).

But the finding that religion and mentalizing are so tightly bound emphasizes an argument I make in my book: Magical thinking is just a natural extension of the everyday thinking that makes us (neurotypically) human. As far as the brain is concerned, God is one of us.

 
 
 

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In most religions and arguably anything worth being called a religion, God is not just an impersonal force or creator. He has a mind that humans can relate to. Maybe you're not gossiping on the phone ...
In most religions and arguably anything worth being called a religion, God is not just an impersonal force or creator. He has a mind that humans can relate to. Maybe you're not gossiping on the phone ...
 
 
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methodman
03:16 PM on 06/04/2012
I have time now so I will explain my comment earlier. I take offense at "his mind", "a mind that we can relate to" mind is a plural!!!!!!! So it has phantom plurals. More importantly mind is a study of a patchwork up system. Like desigining a modular synthesizer would be aking to a study of mind. Even though the parameters are different that thinking is the same. Take Kant and hobbs neither one of them are very compatible to each other. If I like Kant as I do I can't stand Hobbs who I don't care much for (I don't) But many people who I respect being more clever then I am in programming skills tailor their inspirations after the crap he says. Now I have respected myself. I am willing to give his stuff a go at understanding it. But only because his base can be expanded and others have learn to do so. Religion by itself is dead. If people aren't willing to allow me to add extra conversation into a particular scripture I don't need to be around those people. I serve creativity and create services out to others from that!!! Groups that Resolve not to evolve are unnecessary and I have better things to do with my time and my feet manage to stay outside.
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Maezeppa
Happy-Happy Joy-Joy
02:20 PM on 06/04/2012
I think it's worth noting that autistic-spectrum people who are atheists are probably not atheists for the same reasons those of us who are not autistic are atheists.  Unlike an autistic person, I am drawn to minds I can relate to.  I just don't imagine such a mind exists in a supernatural being residing somewhere outside the craniums of my fellow humans.
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TheWM
aka The Wrong Monkey
05:19 PM on 06/04/2012
I'm not sure whether I understand what you're saying. I'm drawn strongly to minds i can relate to. And I'm autistic. (I'm not claiming to speak for other autistics.)
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Maezeppa
Happy-Happy Joy-Joy
07:38 PM on 06/04/2012
Thanks for your note. The article could have been better-written or perhaps I didn't understand it well enough. I thought it implied that religion-believers are 'drawn strongly to minds they can relate to' and are thus able to imagine a god with a human-like mind and that autistic people didn't find others as relatable. Whether either of those statements are true I can't say but I do think there could be several means by which people have a disbelief in supernatural beings.
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methodman
11:40 AM on 06/04/2012
As far as minds they come from collective authors (not the Bible) I consider that fiction!!! But I will take people I know about and set them in a room with people maybe 30 years earlier who kind of are brain storming in order to find out what I don't know about some things. I don't know I get responses to what I do. I don't want your prayers or your stupid repetitive dismissal of my effort. I refuse to talk to god like a two year old and believe everything takes care of itself. I also refuse to attend services at RESOLVE TO NOT EVOLVE CHURCHES
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methodman
11:15 AM on 06/04/2012
I think there are several lines of thought involved here. Atheism for mean means I need to provide langugage to explain something. I also need to develop a theory and proof and truth table workspace and I need to develop tests of various connections. It is far more work then just turning it over to some God who loves and blesses excuses. I am sorry but I have made so much progress in so many different areas because I add and extend my language. I have no inline functionality! Now I am developing those things. What the problem is too many people who could be more open minded and are in positions of authority discriminate against people like myself so that while what we are doing is personally exciting. It is a different direction then the clinical based schooling and it is also a cursing at the religious simple minded so their head pastors discriminate against us.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:28 AM on 06/04/2012
Autism spectrum disorders do seem to be correlated with the promotion of conspiracy theories.
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bertvan
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01:10 PM on 06/03/2012
Everyone has thoughts about the nature of reality, and many of us ponder the difference between right and wrong. So we all have a religion. Those autistic people who are not retarded, but are deficient in the ability to automatically absorb the beliefs and attitudes of people around them, are forced to invent their own religion. However some of those religions do not include belief in a supernatural, personal god.
Berthajane Vandegrift
A Few Autistic Questions about Freud Marx and Darwin
(can be read for free on the Internet)
02:53 PM on 06/03/2012
Beliefs about what is right and wrong are not religious but moral in nature.

Please use your encyclopedia for more than just a doorstop.
10:16 AM on 06/03/2012
What a load of old rubbish. An attempt to mix science and religion to explain someone's different way of seeing the world.
02:55 PM on 06/03/2012
Not at all. There are MEASURABLE differences between the way "normal" people and autistic people, who are just as NORMAL, by the way, think. That has nothing to do with religion but is reality. Since normal and normal autistic people both think about reality, there can be differences between that, too. And that's all the article is about. If some normal people can't handle it, too bad.
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Maezeppa
Happy-Happy Joy-Joy
02:20 PM on 06/04/2012
Autistic people may not be atheists for the same reasons we "normal" people are atheists.
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dsws
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11:53 AM on 06/05/2012
I prefer to say "neurotypical" rather than "normal" for people who aren't on the autism spectrum.
cosmicdart
paragon of paradigms
09:04 AM on 06/03/2012
When I was a child I personified rag bears, stones, birds, bees, and then some, but no one had any idea what I was imagining since they couldn't read my mind. I always understood my imaginings to be just that, a form of unreal entertainment. Some people use the three letter combination "G-o-d" as a tag for an imaginary alternate reality that they have but cannot communicate to others cuz no one can read their mind. Unless someone has the ability to show an empirical scientific referent for a letter combination then that letter combination isn't a word. There's a psychological condition whereby people invent letter combinations without empirical referents and then erroneously try to use them socially as if they are really words. I'm not a theist, an agnostic, or an atheist since I don't recognize the three letter combination "G-o-d" as a word since to be a word this letter combination needs an empirical referent. The tag "G-o-d" doesn't refer to anything that I'm aware of.
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hornedcog
Tax Tea Now!
03:25 PM on 06/02/2012
In conclusion, fakirs con men despots and illusionists are seldom autistic.
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Maezeppa
Happy-Happy Joy-Joy
02:21 PM on 06/04/2012
But that doesn't rule out one of various psychoses.  ;-)
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bertvan
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01:04 PM on 06/02/2012
I believe autism is an evolutionary adaptation. Autism is on the increase, and it will continue to increase. Our environment has changed dramatically in the past few generations, and changing environments produce new adaptations. Rather than physical activity, children now spend years in school, translating symbols on paper into thoughts and concepts. Man is losing some of his ability to automatically adopt the beliefs and attitudes of those around him, and is forced to think his own thoughts. We are substituting learning for intuition. Many of us are losing our need for a religion. Compared to just a few generations ago, we are all non conformists. As with all creative processes, some of these adaptations are tentative and incomplete. Some autistic children are retarded. Their retardation probably has many causes, just as the retardation of people with good social skills has many causes. Autistic people will acquire more social skills, but it will be conscious effort, not something we are born with. One of Man’s differences from the animals from which we evolved is the development of free will and less dependence upon habit and instinct.
Berthajane Vandegrift
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taoistpunk
because the monks wouldn't have me..
10:31 PM on 06/02/2012
oh berty, why do you always come to the science section to spin your religious babble?
evolutionary adaptations are passed generationally through DNA, there is no mechanism for them to fan out across populations no matter how different the environment.
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bertvan
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01:14 PM on 06/03/2012
And why are you always there defending neo-Darwinism, that quaint, simplistic 20th Century notion?
Berthajane Vandegrift
A Few Autistic Questions about Freud, Marx and Darwin.
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Maezeppa
Happy-Happy Joy-Joy
02:16 PM on 06/04/2012
This is a bizarre postulate.  First, autism doesn't confer a particular survival advantage.  That's all evolution is about - improving the chances young will survive to sexual maturity and produce offspring.

Also, the smallest unit evolution can be said to apply to is the group, not random individuals here and there.
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bertvan
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04:51 PM on 06/06/2012
True Maezeppa, there is nothing of "survival of the fittest" in atism. However I don't believe evolution is driven by "random mutation and natural selection." I believe evolutionary adaptations are in response to how we live. We are all in the process of substituting learning for intuitive abilities. Children spend years staring at symbols on a page and translating them into abstract thoughts. I see that as a dramatic change in the way we live. Retarded children with poor social skills are called autistic. Those of us who with poor social abilities are not retarded are sometimes called non conformists.
Berthajane Vandegrift
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Woden
Atheist, skeptic, and proud of it.
12:41 PM on 07/12/2012
"Also, the smallest unit evolution can be said to apply to is the group, not random individuals here and there."

Really, an individual who has a heritable trait that provides some advantage in the course of reproduction (whether through, say, increased fertility or through being better able to survive and find mates) will be able to affect evolution through passing their genes on to their offspring.

However, that seems to be about the only thing bertvan's little pet theory has going for it... I haven't seen anything suggesting that autism gives an particular advantage in the evolutionary sense, especially when you consider that autists tend to be less socially inclined (and therefore not likely to be getting into many relationships) and more educated than average (with education level being positively correlated with a higher age of having a first child, and negatively correlated with number of children). If anything, it seems like autism would still be selected against more likely than selected for.
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The Ghost of Awesome
12:54 PM on 06/02/2012
Empathy is a weak term. They aren't discovering what others are thinking. They are imposing what they would think other people would do in the same situation. That doesn't work when their minds work differently, as we and NTs do.

Bring on the hypocrites and sham doctors!
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Opus Fideo
Atheist. Social Democrat. Canadian.
12:10 PM on 06/02/2012
And people who believe in religious nonsense in the face of mountains of evidence against it suffer from socially accepted schizophrenia
11:48 AM on 06/02/2012
Interesting article. Rather than paraphrasing I thought I would just post a link to this article I read a couple of months back. It talks about humans psychological propensity to detect agency and how that makes people naturally predisposed to accept religious rhetoric.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/adam_lewis/persuasive.html
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05:52 PM on 06/02/2012
'DS', thanks for sharing the link. Many of the names were familiar(currently reading Boyer's 'Religion Explained') but several were new to me.

'Agency and Theory of Mind'
http://migration.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/agency-and-theory-of-mind/
'Evolutionary Perspectives on Religion: An Overview and Synthesis'
http://www.evostudies.org/pdf/SmithVol2Iss2.pdf

The 1st link presents a paper from 2006 so precedes the study reported on above. The 2nd makes a proposal I thought interesting. Thanks again and enjoy !
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June25
04:44 PM on 06/01/2012
Yes but as I have grown older I have come to develop a great respect of the philosophical aspects of religion to help me get an intutive understanding of the human experience.
05:54 PM on 06/01/2012
What philosophical aspect about the Virgin birth gets you a deeper understanding about pregnant teenagers?
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June25
05:09 PM on 06/02/2012
I'm not sure there's much philosophical about pregnant teenageres that one can't learn by listening to Paradise by the Dashboard Light.As to the Virgin birth I get the feeling that even back then people seemed to understand that mankinds inate ability to muck up even the most pure aspects of human life forces us to look for the metaphorical Virgin birth as a hope for the future.
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chatnuptime1
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06:41 AM on 06/02/2012
June you are saying that you are using other peoples experience in life to understand your own. Which is all well and good. Never hurts to consult the many to understand the self to a point. We can learn by others goodness and avoid the pitfalls of others badness. The relentless persuit of God in people is nothing more then our Utopia to better ourselves and grow. Stretching ourselves if you will. In as much as fatih in a higher power carries with it a need to be refined. As for organized religion I think it actually sets us back in that regard.
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June25
05:35 PM on 06/02/2012
Yes when I was young psychology and philosophy seemed like a blind avenue to learn about why other people lacked my minds clarity.Not a problem couldn't be solved by building a better machine or a shift of policy.The reason we Aspies rarely become leaders is because we fail to read the true intent of others and thus our intuition is often terribly off.Personally I still have trouble slowing my mind down to the slow speed of the church hymns being sung, so I just stay away and go to the people functions.
03:55 PM on 06/01/2012
I have aspergers syndrome and I actually am a christian though I have been one since I was young (i'm the odd one out, yay! :) ) I just thought that atheism was common among aspies because aspies tend to think in black and white.
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The Ghost of Awesome
12:49 PM on 06/02/2012
NTs think in black and white.

Aspies think in a spectrum.

Don't believe everything NTs tell you. In fact don't believe them at all. Believe in yourself.
11:38 AM on 06/04/2012
To me, it seems that the religious are the ones who think in black and white; in moral absolutes such as good and evil.