Wait a minute......the others are getting maybe 7-13 years (probably less than 7)? They ALL participated in this psychopathic murder/ rape...what the he!!????
BobSacomano: Wait a minute......the others are getting maybe 7-13 years (probably
I suppose that if it were my loved one killed I would want the death penalty for the person who committed the crime. However something about punishing someone with the death penalty seems to be no better then the criminal that committed such horrible acts. I feel that it is stooping to their level to act with the same calusness, and hatred. The death penalty is not a detourant in most crimes, people continue to kill without caring much about this law. However Europe is a bit too strict with no death penatly because people know they can get away with horrible things and not get killed for it. So I am personally torn in my opinion of the death penalty, but lean more towards it is not a good idea. I personally think that you should let these horrible monsters sit in a prison cell forever and suffer, let them think about the bad things they have done and let their demons consume them. Hopefully they are smart enough to realise that poor desicions and choices in life ruined not only the lives of their victims but their own.
AmandaLS: I suppose that if it were my loved one killed
I am in no way defending Green or the others involved in this case. I am simply saying that their mental health should be monitored better in a war zone, they should be sane enough and watched closely enough that things like this never happen. Some troops get so stressed out that they freak out on all people that fit anything that to them may resemble the "enemy" in their minds, we can see this in some "shell shocked" Vietnam vets. There should be some medical leave for troops that display any unusual traits in their personality that can cause them to harm themselves or others. This is a shame. I also a think that a 27 month sentance for Howard, the lookout is not enough time. This man was sent to a country to be honorable and help the Iraqi people, but instead he assisted in the horrible murders of an entire Iraqi family by guarding the post so to speak and did nothing to stop them, he did not allert higher military officials, he did not decline involvment, he is just as much at fault as the rapist murderers in this case. As for the death penalty issue, that is another can of worms. While the death penalty is favored by Islamic countries, Iraq being the one since their citizens were killed in this case, and the US, the death penatly as a whole is something that does not sit too well with me.
AmandaLS: I am in no way defending Green or the others
This case is attrocious. Many things need to be addressed in cases like these. The first issue I think is that the soldiers involved should be tried in a Military court and not a civilian court. The crimes were commited while fighting a war in another country as US military personel. I can think of other crimes committed in the states that were tried in military courts because the parties involved were in the military. Military law is much stricter and the punishments are much harsher, therefor I feel that the crime suits the method of trial as well as the punishment. This was not a civilian crime and should not be judged as one. The second issue is the insanity issue. Green may be "Sane" according to medical records, but some people use the temporary insaniyt plea to their benefit and the terms that define temporary insanity seem to be applicable in this scenario. PTSD is a serious problem as well with the troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan, they need to recieve better care for ptsd and not have that medical condition either ignored or documented as a lesser illness, which is often the case in order to reduce the amount of money that is dispursed to wounded (mental and physical) troops.
AmandaLS: This case is attrocious. Many things need to be addressed
Maybe they should to him what was done to "Alex" on the movie, "A Clockwork Orange". Give him a chance at freedom if goes through a radical behavioral experimental reform program that makes him physically ill at the thought of violence.
winningticket: Maybe they should to him what was done to "Alex"
I am just glad that I do not have to serve on the sentencing jury. My love goes out to all involved, including Steven Green. Some where along the way, he lost his humanity. This is a testament to what war does to people. And more importantly, what the current military training unleases in people. I have read a number of novels dealing with this scenario lately & I wonder what will happen when some of these guys come home. Incidentally, when I go to the library, I do not have any particular author in mind. And yet I have chosen 5 or 6 books with this plot.
For me the worst thing in this barbaric story is the look of calm pride on his face on the photo. He's obviously proud of what he did. And what's the story with 100 or 90 years in prison that can be reduced to just 13?? This guy will go back out in the streets waaaaay to soon.
Cool-headed: For me the worst thing in this barbaric story is
A remeditated gang rape of a child and the murder of her family are not normal actions of anybody, soldier or not. It seems you are making excuses for this sub-human.
CR46: A remeditated gang rape of a child and the murder
Know what the fitting punishment would be? More mercy and humanity than he ever showed his victims. By all means get this man off the streets for life, he's a danger to himself and everyone around him. Death, however, is too swift. Give him treatment, treat him humanely, and rehabilitate him until he is a good man again. Then let him reflect on his crimes for every day of his life, and live with the anguish and regret for every single day that he's alive. Let him realize he can't take any of it back, no matter how he might wish it to the core of his being, even if he wishes he could give his life to undo what he's done. I hope he heals and lives a long, long life regretting that night and the choices he made.
JLee: Know what the fitting punishment would be? More mercy and
Psychopaths don't live with guilt, they simply feel sorry for themselves, and that's what this guy will do in prison. I'm actually astounded over the light sentences afforded the other cretins in this case as well.
BobSacomano: Psychopaths don't live with guilt, they simply feel sorry for
I'm against the death penalty even in heinous crimes such as this; it should be life without any chance of parole. However, it does bother me that, if this is the outcome, he might become some kind of icon for far-right "brotherhoods" inside the jail.
The best solution, in my mind, is for him to serve a life sentence in Iraq - let he spend the rest of his natural life looking over his shoulder.
piul05: I'm against the death penalty even in heinous crimes such
Talk about naive...please tell me how rapists and killers are supposed to look like? What about Jeffrey Dahmer? You propably can't believe he was a serial killer and a cannibal because he looked so "normal".
TruthoverPropaganda: Talk about naive...please tell me how rapists and killers are
exactly. what does 'normal' mean?
Since when do all killers have to have long hair, be deranged, unshaven and unshowered and loners? What does someone''s face - an uncontrollable feature, have to do with anything?
Yamunation: exactly. what does 'normal' mean? Since when do all killers
Nothing personal but your comment is typical of our mindset in this country, and studies have proven that suspects that are considered handsome, beautiful, attractive, or 'normal' frequently are acquitted or given less harsh sentences. Generally more proof is needed for a conviction and sentences less harsh.
There were a couple of interesting studies for television done that illustrated that even children judge competence, incompetence, guilt, or intelligence by appearance alone.
BobSacomano: Nothing personal but your comment is typical of our mindset
war = uncivilize
my heart goes out to both families they have both been ruined because of a man named BUSH
The best solution, in my mind, is for him to serve a life sentence in Iraq - let he spend the rest of his natural life looking over his shoulder.
Since when do all killers have to have long hair, be deranged, unshaven and unshowered and loners? What does someone''s face - an uncontroll
There were a couple of interestin