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Troy Davis and the Biblical Case(s) for Violence

Posted: 09/21/11 06:55 PM ET

As I write this article, it appears that Troy Davis will be executed within a few hours. He will join countless others, including Osama bin Laden, who have been killed legally. Chief among the many questions raised by such killings is whether -- and if so, how -- violence can serve as a legitimate instrument of justice. Contemporary debate about this question echoes the diverse and conflicting perspectives within biblical texts regarding the use of violence as a potential force for good. What, if anything, can these texts teach us today?

Attitudes in biblical texts regarding violence are complex and, at times, irreconcilable. In the Jewish Bible/Old Testament, God not only permits violence but also commands people to commit it (e.g., Deuteronomy 20). Even more troubling is the divinely sanctioned and ordered genocide (Deuteronomy 20). The breadth of this extermination (called the haram) is made clear when God's command to slaughter the Amalekites includes exterminating men, women, children, infants, oxen, sheep, camels and donkeys (1 Samuel 15:1-3; cf. 15:18-35).

One can rightly claim -- especially given Feuerbach and Durkheim -- that such texts reveal much less about God and much more about people and their tendency to legitimate violence by ascribing it to divine decrees. George Bernard Shaw said it well: "God created us in his image, and we decided to return the favor." This recognition does not, however, dismiss the ugly portrait of God in such texts nor the manifold ways in which people have sought to use such texts as warrants in their violence against others.

On the other hand, many Hebrew Bible texts either seek to limit or forbid violence. The Israelites are instructed to first offer terms of peace to any town against which they intend to fight (Deuteronomy 20:10). The psalmist declares that YHWH's soul "hates the lover of violence (hamas)" (Psalm 11:5). God forbids King David from building a temple since David has "shed much blood" and "waged great wars" (1 Chronicles 22:6-10).

The attitude toward violence in the Hebrew Bible thus appears schizophrenic. As in most cases, the Bible provides ammunition to people on both sides of the debate. The Decalogue (Ten Commandments) forbids killing (lo tirzah) (Exodus 20:13; Deuteronomy 5:17), but the same Hebrew term (rzh) is used to describe capital punishment, an act permitted elsewhere in the Torah (Numbers 35:16, 17, 18, 19, 30). God is opposed to violence, but regularly punishes the violent with violence (e.g. Genenis 6:13; 9:6). God seems to use violence as an instrument of justice.

So too do other biblical characters. Moses' first act as an adult, as described in the Book of Exodus, is to kill:

"One day, after Moses had grown up, he went out to his people and saw their forced labor. He saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his kinsfolk. He looked this way and that, and seeing no one he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand" (Exodus 2:11-12).

It is unclear if Moses tried to kill the Egyptian, but it is clear that he was willing to injure him in order to protect a Hebrew slave, that his attack was premeditated and that he tried to conceal it -- both before and after the fact. Refusing to be neutral in this conflict, Moses sides with the vulnerable and acts violently against the oppressor. It is perhaps not a coincidence that God later calls Moses to enter a national conflict and (once again) side with the oppressed slaves and against the oppressive slave owners.

Ambiguity about the use of violence exists even within Jesus' life and teachings. In the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7), Jesus forbids any form of violence. Rejecting lex talionis ("an eye for an eye"), he offers instead a law of loving the enemy, insisting that a person not resist an evildoer, but rather turn the other cheek, give one's garment away, go two miles and give to everyone who begs. Lex talionis, intended to minimize the cycle of escalating violence, fails for Jesus because it does not end the cycle.

The radical nature of Jesus' command to love the enemy is evident in its general neglect by most Christians. After Tony Campolo preached on this text the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001, a man from the church came up to him and declared, "This is not the time to be quoting Jesus!" In many cases such as this it is "progressive/liberal" Christians who are the true biblical literalists, and "conservative" Christians who interpret the Bible most liberally. In proscribing violence, Jesus gives no qualifiers, exceptions or caveats. It is not a coincidence that references to Jesus in Just War Theory are virtually nonexistent.

Jesus' sermon was a catalyst for Leo Tolstoy's critique of Russia's military and practice of capital punishment. In his religious autobiography, "A Confession" (1882), Tolstoy expresses horror over the use of violence by the Russian state in "the name of Christian love." Two years later (in "What I Believe") he describes his own conversion as the moment when he realized that when Jesus said "Resist not evil" (Matthew 5:39), Jesus actually meant what he said. Tolstoy delivered his fiercest critique in "The Kingdom of God Is Within You" (1894), a book banned in Russia for obvious reasons:

"We consider it the duty of every [person] who thinks war inconsistent with Christianity, meekly but firmly to refuse to serve in the army. ... If you believe that Christ forbade murder, pay no heed to the arguments nor to the commands of those who call on you to bear a hand in it."

Mahatma Gandhi was profoundly influenced both by "The Kingdom of God Is Within You" and Jesus' Sermon on the Mount. Gandhi notes, "I came to see that the Sermon on the Mount was the whole of Christianity for him who wanted to live a Christian life. It is that sermon that has endeared Jesus to me." For Gandhi, the

"message of Jesus ... is contained in the Sermon on the Mount unadulterated and taken as a whole. ... If then I had to face only the Sermon on the Mount and my own interpretation of it, I should not hesitate to say, 'Oh, yes, I am a Christian.' But negatively, I can tell you that in my humble opinion, what passes as Christianity is a negation of the Sermon on the Mount..."

Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. found in Gandhi and the Sermon on the Mount concrete strategies for nonviolent resistance. King's nonviolent tactics are well known. Less familiar, since we celebrate only those aspects of heroes with which we're comfortable, is his consistent application of Jesus' teaching. On April 4, 1967 (one year to the day before to his death), King gave his Speech on Vietnam, outlining his opposition to the war. He pointed out the glaring hypocrisy in the American public (and press) who praised him when he promoted nonviolence among blacks in the inner cities, but "cursed and damned him" for demanding that his own government be "nonviolent towards little brown children in Vietnam."

New Testament scholar Richard Hays finds this anti-violence message not only in the Sermon on the Mount, but throughout the New Testament: "...from Matthew to Revelation we find a consistent witness against violence and a calling to the community to follow the example of Jesus in accepting suffering rather than inflicting it."

Yet, on (at least) one occasion Jesus did use physical violence. Mark's Gospel records this episode:

And after [Jesus] entered the temple, he began to cast out the ones selling and buying in the temple, and he destroyed the tables of the moneychangers and the seats of the ones selling doves, and he wasn't allowing anyone to carry goods through the temple. And he was teaching and saying to them: "Is it not written, 'My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples/nations'? 'But you have made it a den of bandits' (Mark 11:15-17).
Discomfort about Jesus' violence here is evident in how later Gospel writers edit the story. Luke's version is quite tame compared to Mark; in the former, Jesus only does one thing: He drives out those who sold. He neither drives out those who bought, destroys tables and seats, nor prevents people from carrying things (cf. Luke 19:45). Luke may not describe Jesus' overturning of tables since the Greek word Mark uses (katastrefō) often means "destroy." The word is used at least 11 times in the Greek translation of the Jewish Bible (LXX) to describe God's destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Neither Matthew nor Luke portray Jesus physically "messing with people." But in Mark, Jesus "casts/throws" people out and prevents people from carrying anything. We are told neither how Jesus accomplishes this nor if he hurts or injures anyone in the process.

A motive for Jesus' violence can be found in the two Jewish prophets he cites. The first quote ("My house will be called a house of prayer for all peoples/nations") comes from Isaiah 56:7b and occurs within a context where Isaiah insists that YHWH will welcome foreigners into the temple and accept their offerings, "for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples/nations" (Isaiah 56:3-8).

Yet the temple in Jesus' day consisted of concentric circles of purity, and each circle was limited to certain people. The most exterior court was the court of Gentiles, apparently marked by two inscriptions warning Gentiles that capital punishment was the consequence for pressing beyond into the interior of the temple. Gentiles were excluded from entering into the court of Jewish women, the court of Jewish men and the holy of holies. The temple in Jesus' day was not a house of prayer for all peoples.

By quoting Isaiah 56:7, Jesus challenges a structure of institutionalized racism. The Temple was not only the religious but also the political, economic and social epicenter of power in first century Judaism. Jesus is violent in and against this dominant center of religious, economic and political power. It is primarily for this reason that Jesus is arrested and crucified.

Jesus recalls Moses, who also directed his energies (violent and political/diplomatic) against the dominant power of his day. In Moses and Jesus we see a preferential option for the oppressed and a willingness to use violence to protect them. Both men use violence against a powerful system in order to protect or advocate for the powerless.

What can we learn from these biblical texts? The Sermon on the Mount challenges Christians who too readily accept the arguments that violence is an acceptable (if less than idealistic) option. Jesus' episode in the Temple, on the other hand, challenges Christians who embrace pacifism. Put differently, pacifists need to read Jesus' Temple episode, and consider its implications for when violence might be acceptable or even necessary. Christians comfortable with "just war" need to read the Sermon on the Mount and consider its implications for pacifism.

But let us return to Troy Davis and Osama bin Laden. In the case of Moses and Jesus, violence is used not as punishment but (in Moses' case) to protect the vulnerable from the powerful and (in Jesus' case) to resist a powerful system that was excluding people based on ethnicity. One can certainly argue that the death of bin Laden was necessary in order to protect others from harm. But killing Troy Davis accomplishes neither of the two goals enacted by Moses and Jesus. His death will not protect the vulnerable from harm. Nor will his death serve as resistance to a powerful system that oppresses the weak. On the contrary, it seems that the death of Troy Davis would be precisely the kind of thing that Moses and Jesus would resist -- perhaps even violently.
 
 
 
 
 
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
12:49 AM on 09/23/2011
You know, I'm not a big haram kind of guy. Don't much like jihad either. I had a teacher once that urged me to look upon these concepts as metaphors. If you take it literally, he said, then you're faced with the very uncomfortable idea of God ordering babies to be dashed against the wall. And, yes, that idea makes me very uncomfortable. But, this teacher went on, if you consider the Amalikites as that within yourself that causes you to be separate from the divine, which is the exact definition of sin, then the idea of completely destroying that sin and once again becoming one with God is much more enlightening. The English word 'atonement' kind of says it...at one ment. To be at one with the divine. The thing is, we have a tendency to create gods in our own image, including this Jehovah. This is arrogant. Consider what the writer has God say to Job after God did the bet with Satan and yanked the carpet out from under Job's complacent feet: Hey, I'm God, you're nothing! Where were you when I...? Perhaps that which we call God is as far or further above us than we are above amoebae. If this is the case, then God might not be even close to what we've made God out to be.
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Tater Salad
How can I be a quitter when haters dont stop?
05:23 PM on 09/23/2011
Wow. The story of Job wasn't God pulling the rug from under his feet. If you read it, you would see how Satan was allowed to test Job's faith, without killing him. By Job proving faithful, he was rewarded ten fold from what he lost. Doesn't sound all that bad when you look at the big picture.
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Grada3784
Dogmatic Dictators, believers or not, not welcome
06:26 PM on 09/22/2011
Considering that according to the book of Revelation that God is going to trash the world to save it, like in Genesis with the flood, and the double dealing that God engages in in the OT (duplicate story of Sodom in Genesis and Judges, with Judges being the worse of the 2), I doubt the Bible can really give a clear message on divine violence.
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12:50 PM on 09/22/2011
God has a plan for everyone, including Troy Davis. Though I believe his execution was unjust because of doubt, some good can come from it, because God may choose to use the unjustness to mobile people against a barbaric and outdated form of punishment. That the death penalty is a deterrent is an absurd excuse to the death penalty relevant.
02:44 PM on 09/22/2011
God who?
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thegodlessgeneration
better to embrace hard truth than reassuring fable
09:43 PM on 09/22/2011
So you disagree with God's decision to allow it to continue but rather than question God (which you would never do because you fear Him), you'll just tack this one on to his 'master plan'?
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bondcliff
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12:46 PM on 09/22/2011
The Old Testament is filled with lessons of killing ones enemy and all those attached to that enemy. There is very little reference to Satan as a driving force of evil. It is basically an elimination of those who do not look, act or believe as the wandering Jews do. That and a defense or capturing of the promised land by the Jews against those who are occupying that land. It is a book written for it's time to control and lead the people of it's time. What the Bible says about execution then, is relevant today only in that it is used politically to rally votes with a creation of an enemy of God. The execution of Troy Davis is a failure or success of the United States Court system. What the truth is will be debated, but asking question like "What would Jesus do?" is legitimizing an ancient text and the archaic rules imposed by it. Reform the court system? Yes. Base it on the Bible? A resounding no. Use the Bible for some comfort and moral guidance? If it works for you personally? Sure.
03:09 PM on 09/22/2011
I humbly and respectfully submit to you that such violence and suffering is not God’s premier plan. I humbly and respectfully submit to you http://blogspotthinker.blogspot.com/2011/09/accusations-against-god.html and welcome your thoughts.
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bondcliff
you really don't know me
03:50 PM on 09/22/2011
My contention is not whether or not God's premier plan is now or ever was responsible for violence. That is for each to personally examine in their own hearts and minds. My issue is the use of the Bible as a guiding force to be imposed on all and used as a reason for violence. For some, this is their guide and solace, for others it is not. The Bible is filled with acts of great violence and acts of great kindness. In my opinion, the Bible has been written and re written throughout history and used as both a guide and a cudgel. It is now used selectively by political groups as if it is an aisle in a supermarket. Outlaw gay life styles? Eye for an eye? Sure we can use those to bolster our argument. Camel through the Eye of a needle? Turn the other Cheek? Blessed is the Meek? Let those who have not sinned? Well that doesn't fit the political agenda. Gods existence is personal and that belief is varied. I never question someones personal beliefs, only their public impositions of those beliefs.
12:44 PM on 09/22/2011
They can teach us that we must stone anyone found working on the sabbath.
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lonesometx
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02:27 PM on 09/22/2011
I've been stoned on the sabbath before...
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Grada3784
Dogmatic Dictators, believers or not, not welcome
06:27 PM on 09/22/2011
And that's the Biblical Sabbath, which means there'll be plenty of stoned christians.
PATOISJAM
reason: strategize: succeed
11:08 AM on 09/22/2011
There is no record of Jesus or any of his disciples opposing any application of the law of the land in the first century. What Jesus offered instead was the hope of a resurrection as he offered to the repentant criminal who hung beside him. He offered this hope because he well knew that man’s justice could never be 100% correct.

As God’s son, Jesus had the right to inflict punishment as merited as he did at the temple. Jesus was a perfect man and did not sin while on earth so the action he took in the temple was correct. If his actins were incorrect it would have meant that he had sinned and his ransom would never been accepted by his father. Any injustice committed by man can and will be undone by God.

What is of more serious concern, however, is the fact that God’s war – Armageddon is still future where as described in Revelation 14:19, many will die because of their error: “And the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and he hurled it into the great winepress of the anger of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs.”
11:08 AM on 09/29/2011
you need to worry more about the words of christ and less about the rantings of John of Patmos over 200 years later.
PATOISJAM
reason: strategize: succeed
10:59 AM on 09/22/2011
God has allowed human governments to rule and therefore the laws will apply. Even though their decisions may not be 100% correct, the administration of laws keep order in society because of the fear of punishment for wrongs committed.

Human actions cannot be compared to God’s. To God belongs the life of every person on earth so God has the right to give and take life. The real issue involved here is whether humans acknowledge that God as sovereign over the earth has that right.

As sovereign, God deeded the right of tenure of the land in Canaan to Abraham’s seed by an oath-bound covenant – see Genesis 12:5-7. As such, God decreed, not just eviction for the Canaanites, capital punishment upon those found meriting it and He had the right to implement and enforce the execution of the decree.

That God was justified in destroying the Canaanites found full confirmation in the conditions that existed in that land. History bears out that fact. The Edomites, is an example of what happens to those who oppose God’s covenanted people and his will. By their vicious opposition the Canaanites forfeited title to the land it had held by divine warrant as shown in Joel 3:19 “As regards Egypt, a desolate waste it will become; and as regards Edom, a wilderness of desolate waste it will become, because of the violence to the sons of Judah, in whose land they shed innocent blood.”
janereally
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12:24 PM on 09/22/2011
It is also proven that the death penalty DOES NOT stop crime for "fear of punishment" - and how can it stop innocent people, when they are innocent of any crime?

The real issue is why we turn to a mythical figure and ask "do we acknowledge the primacy of that mythical figure? "

Ridiculous.
12:46 PM on 09/22/2011
Regarding turning to a mythical figure, I humbly and respectfully submit for your review http://blogspotthinker.blogspot.com/2011/09/logic-and-reason-supporting-creator-god.html and welcome your thoughts. This post offers a few thoughts regarding the apparent logic and reason that suggest that God might well be more than mythical.

If clicking the links does not launch the blog, copying and pasting the URLs into the browser address bar might. In addition, Huffington Post comment post display appears to include extra hyphens in the text. These hyphens, if inserted into the URLs, might alter the URL and cause “Page Not Found” errors. Comparing the pasted URL with the original might reveal such occurrences. If the blog still does not launch, trying at a later point might achieve better results.
PATOISJAM
reason: strategize: succeed
01:05 PM on 09/22/2011
I agree with you that the death penalty will not stop crime and no other penalty will either. The farther we get from strictly obeying God's laws the more immoral and depraved society will become. Anything goes attitude will prevail.

Anyway, not to believe in or not to acknowledge God as supreme is your choice and consequence.
10:40 AM on 09/22/2011
The thing most people, as well as this writer, fails to see is that these events were spiritual in nature. As God's plan to redeem fallen man is revealed, Satan moves to stop that plan. God reveals the Savior will be a man, Satan corrupts mankind... leading to the flood. God reveals that he will make a nation of the Israelits, Egypt enslaves Israel... leading to the plagues of Egypt. God selects a land for Israel, Satan fills the land with Israel's enemies... leading to the Israel's removing them from the land. Later, God shows the Redeemer will come from the house of David, leading to all sorts of problems there. This thread runs through the entire old testament... linking 39 books into a single message

We look at these things from our perspective and, no, they don't make sense. But this is a spiritual war with things going on we are not able to comprehend. Satan could not stop God's plan to provide a way for fallen man to be reconciled to God. Once Jesus paid the price for what we truly deserve, the attacks changed from defense to offense... now Satan infiltrates the church and corrupts it from within.

God's ways make no sense until seen from the spiritual aspect. But most just want to show why they should not be held accountable to God's word... no big surprise that the true meaning is rarely found.
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thegodlessgeneration
better to embrace hard truth than reassuring fable
10:48 AM on 09/22/2011
What you fail to see is that God created Satan. If God created everything - was the only being that existed at the beginning of time - all things came from Him. Therefore, Satan's corruption of mankind is allowed by God and was created by God.

"Satan could not stop God's plan to provide a way for fallen man to be reconciled to God?" Why doesn't God just stop Satan and put an end to it?

God's ways make no sense; period. Take a look at the hundreds of thousands of people that Joshua killed at the directive of God; men, women and children - even cows. Yet you place your faith and your dependence on a God that would sanction such murder and genocide. You blindly follow and don't question; that is no way to live.
11:31 AM on 09/26/2011
"You blindly follow and don't question, that is no way to live."

Very true. I had the very same problems with a "loving God" not only allowing, but directing the killing of men, women, children, etc. If God was all powerful why, as you said, allow Satan to do such evil in the world. For this reason, and many others, I was on the verge of abandoning any belief in any god. I challenged God, told him that either He shows me why these things must be, or stop bothering me. Then, through various ways and different people He did show me.

I question, I never stop questioning. But He never stops answering. If anyone... and I mean ANYONE... really wants to know the truth and will seek it with both an open heart and open mind, the truth will be found. Unfortunately most people DON'T want to know the truth. Then they would be accountable for their actions... and that does not conform to our "it's not my fault' mentality.
07:35 AM on 09/22/2011
Once again as humans who sin in this world through turning our back on Jesus (God) we Chose to find someone to blame other then ourselves, becuase blaming ourselves would lead to guilt, which no human in their heat of hearts wants to feel or be appart of ... So in the injustice of this all you chose to turn it back on a Christian or a Jew simply because God made everythign in his own image and saw that it was good .And yes when he first created the human race we were perfect in his eye and did no wrong i.e killing and violence. But through turning away from Him we created our own sin not God therfore How can you blame Him... It's not down to him it's down to what we a a human race created within ourselves.
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thegodlessgeneration
better to embrace hard truth than reassuring fable
10:51 AM on 09/22/2011
You can blame Him for allowing it all to happen. God knew what Adam and Eve were going to do before it even happened, yet he did nothing to prevent it.

When God first made everything, there were only two people on the planet so it was impossible for them to kill and commit violent acts before turning away from Him.
12:52 PM on 09/22/2011
I might have shared these thoughts regarding God’s responsibility for human adversity prior. In case I have not, or in case recent updates are of interest, I submit to you http://blogspotthinker.blogspot.com/2011/09/accusations-against-god.html and welcome your thoughts.
01:24 AM on 09/22/2011
Religious views aside, the fact remains that capitol punishment is more expensive than a life sentence. You add to that the very real possibility that an innocent person may put to death, plus the rather inconclusive idea that the death penalty is a deterrent. Why have a death penalty?

Up here in Canada we have had our share of confessed, depraved individuals, who very few would shed a tear for if they faced the death penalty. But for me those few individuals can rot in jail, rather than risk an innocent person being executed.

As for Ms. Davis's post about the pro/anti war debate, that question is more difficult. Indeed today what do we as citizens of the world do about the death of protesters in Syria and Yemen?
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mrindge
05:51 PM on 09/23/2011
Thanks for your comment, esp. the reminder about those people who suffer violence around the world who often never show up on our radar.
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12:42 AM on 09/22/2011
Deuteronomy 19:15
A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offense that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established.
12:55 PM on 09/22/2011
Even the relative wisdom of that particular guideline appears so far from the true goal: true justice, a social goal apparently Biblically suggested to be only achievable by God.
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11:53 PM on 09/23/2011
I think I understand what you are saying, but I'm not sure. Can you go more into depth for me, please. Thanks.
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mrindge
05:45 PM on 09/23/2011
Yes, Deuteronomy actually provides a number of protections against defendants in court trials, including a stipulation that if a witness for the prosecution lies in their testimony, then that witness will be subject to the same punishment (including death) that the prosecution was going to visit upon the defendant.
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12:33 AM on 09/24/2011
Thank you, I'd also like to add the following:
"Almost all the restrictions upon the beneficence of the law came not from the law itself, still less from the spirit of the law, but from the selfish turn which was given to it by the later Rabbis.
The law said, 'Thou shalt love thy neighbour ;' 'Thou shalt hate thine enemy,' was an unauthorized addition.

'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' Did this authorize revenge? It was really the enforcement of equal justice, a legal preventative for the oppression which would have made light of the maiming of the poor and helpless.
The law of the cities of refuge recognized, no doubt, the blood feud; but it mitigated it.
The Hebrew laws of war, at least in the Deuteronomic legislation, are singularly mild'.
As to strangers, we may contrast the alien law of Athens in its prime, which allowed all foreigners to be banished or sold into slavery, a law actually put in force in the days of Pericles, when 5,000 persons not of pure Athenian blood, who had crept upon the registers, were banished or sold as slaves, with the words of Deuteronomy, at least two centuries before," The Lord 'loveth the stranger ;' 'The stranger that dvvelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself."
William H.Fremantle, The World As the Subject for Redemption,1895 Longmans,Green&Co,

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Amalek
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10:55 PM on 09/21/2011
God may have commanded that all the Amalekites be slayed, including the donkeys, but one escaped.
janereally
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12:25 PM on 09/22/2011
and he is now running for President on the republican ticket.
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mikeview
10:43 PM on 09/21/2011
If we want to live by the Old Testament, We can not call ourselves Christians...
For the law can make nothing perfect; Jesus through the Holy Spirit brings forth a Better Way.

Hebrews 7:11 New King James.
11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
12:58 PM on 09/22/2011
Apparently, the law appears Biblically suggested to effectively show humanity how far from the goal humanity is.
10:28 PM on 09/21/2011
Rather large difference, on any violence scale, between war, or execution, and turning over tables and naming names...
08:56 PM on 09/21/2011
I completely agree with this article. I used to be pro-war (seeing war as a means to an end). I used to be anti-war (seeing any war and violence as a threat against humanity). Now, I'm in the middle. War and violence sometimes is necessary: our inactivity during the Rwanda and Congo years prove that. War and violence can be completely unnecessary: Iraq, Vietnam, Algeria...

But war as a means to an end is generally wrong. And war that is entered to get vengeance is generally wrong too. But every case should be studied one by one.

Last but not least, we must understand that both Moses and Jesus were human, therefore they had a violent and peaceful sides like every one of us, because we live in a world of relativity. What made them both so great is that they actively chose their actions in accordance with who they are and what they stand for. We should strive to make more decisions that way.

Anyway, nice article, I enjoyed reading it thoroughly! And we need more people to write critical articles like this about faith, religion. Because that's what gets us thinking and hopefully choosing our way of doing things.

Thank you.
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mikeview
10:56 PM on 09/21/2011
Part 1 of 3: Jesus came to reveal to us that War is not the way... Jesus came as a High Priest of Righteousness (Melchizedek) .
"Nothing was ever made perfect through the Levitical law of the Old Testament." - Hebrews 7:11

Thank You.

Hebrews: 7:11 - New King James
11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.

Hebrews: 7:11 - New Century

11 The people were given the law[c] concerning the system of priests from the tribe of Levi, but they could not be made perfect through that system. So there was a need for another priest to come, a priest like Melchizedek, not Aaron. 12 And when a different kind of priest comes, the law must be changed, too.13 We are saying these things about Christ, who belonged to a different tribe. No one from that tribe ever served as a priest at the altar.14 It is clear that our Lord came from the tribe of Judah, and Moses said nothing about priests belonging to that tribe.
01:06 PM on 09/22/2011
Appropriate resolution of human conflict appears Biblically suggested to be a goal achievable solely by God. Other social goals that appear to share the same solution source are justice and equality.

Apparently, law appears Biblically suggested to effectively show humanity how far from the goal humanity is. The Bible also appears to suggest that it takes a “change of heart”, apparently Biblically associated with restored relationship with God, to regain the capacity for appropriate decision-making that results in peace and prosperity.
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05:24 PM on 09/23/2011
Sophie - thank you for your thoughtful comments; I'm glad you appreciate nuance and critical thinking regarding matters of faith and religion. Peace.