Hillary's Long Hot Summer

HENDERSON, Nev. -- Barack Obama has a sweet rally today in Keehi Lagoon Beach Park and then a week in Honolulu with his family. John McCain is quipping about the life-sized butter cow making her debut right about now and then taking the speaker's box at the Iowa State Fair. Just a year ago, Hillary Clinton was the Queen of the Fair, reigning over the summer candidate debates, shoring up her claim to inevitability. Today she is stumping for Barack here, where it is 110 degrees in the shade. What a difference a summer makes.

Nevada during the lead-up to the caucuses here is where acrimony -- the real thing, as opposed to mere squabbling -- broke out for the first time between the Clinton and Obama campaigns. Who can forget that harbinger of unscripted moments-to-come, Bill Clinton's meandering story about witnessing casino voter suppression? The Barack Hussein Obama robo-calls? The failed lawsuit over the special caucus rules for casinos? David Plouffe's accusations of intimidation and disenfranchisement at caucus sites? The post-caucus complaints and threats of lawsuits and countersuits?

The women of Henderson certainly haven't forgotten, and they're out here in the noon heat for Hillary. Anna and her daughter Olivia call themselves Undecideds. Anna has brought with her a woman warrior sculpture she has made for Senator Clinton. The Amazon's arrow quiver is lettered "18 million strong." Later, Anna whispers that she is a member of PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) and will vote for John McCain. PUMA has a strong presence here today. Jan, a local leader, is also a member of Democrats for McCain. Irene says, "I'm not for Mr. Obama. I'm for Hillary Clinton!" Irene was a precinct captain for Clinton, and she hasn't reconciled to the way the media treated her candidate. "My Mom was Rosie the Riveter -- how could I be for anyone but Hillary? She's a woman -- she can multi-task!" Women within earshot laugh appreciatively.

A few of the women standing in line say they will eventually change parties. "I'm voting for John McCain and switching sides. I'm becoming a Republican -- even if my husband won't," Wendy says. Her husband, Chris, doesn't appear discomfited by her assertion. "You just don't throw your grandmother under the bus like that," Wendy says, referring to Senator Obama's remark about his grandmother in his Philadelphia race speech. Others braving the heat to hear Hillary aren't quite so fierce, but indecision is the mood of the day. Barbara and her husband, Jim, say that this event, at Henderson's Green Valley High School, is their seventh of the long campaign. They, too, are Undecideds. "We haven't totally seen the connection yet, between Hillary and Obama," Barbara says. "We're looking for that sense of connection."

Will these dozens and dozens of Undecideds hear Hillary make that connection for them today? Green Valley is but the latest of hundreds of school auditoriums Hillary Clinton has seen as she stumps for her one-time opponent. How does she do it? Will she be thinking about Nevada last January? Although in the sky over Henderson planes descend minute-by-minute to land in Las Vegas, this bedroom community, despite the aspirational names of its new-carved streets -- Desert Dawn, Deer Meadow, Paseo Verde -- still wears an air of desert desolation.

The applause has been fitful for Obama all through the speakers -- the volunteers and the local politicians -- who precede Senator Clinton, who enters to enthusiastic applause. "We are unified and prepared to go forward together," she says of the Democrats, as some of her hardcore supporters call out in protest. Hillary rides over the shout-outs and begins to win over her audience with humor. "I want the Republicans to call a press conference and apologize for the last eight years!" Now the Obama supporters in the audience catch her mood and take over from the doubters. Many of these supporters are African-Americans who call out in response to each of her lines.

Hillary reminds the audience that there have been three Democratic victories in the last ten presidential elections. "Two out of those three victories were by somebody I know pretty well," she says. She reminds her audience that, given those numbers, they can't take victory in November for granted. "President Bush and Senator McCain are two sides of the same coin, and it doesn't amount to a whole lotta change," she says to great applause. Hillary is buoyant. Unlike in Unity, N.H., she looks rested and happy. Even if her face and voice are all campaign persona, is it enough for the Undecideds to feel that she is truly connected to Obama?

Clinton quickly goes through Obama's proposals for health care, child care, raising the minimum wage, equal pay for equal work, and respite care for caregivers. On each of these campaign topics, the same men in one section of the bleachers shout out. Whether they are plants or merely fervid fans, these Obama supporters drum up enthusiasm in the crowd. Whether or not many in this group of 500 or so will go out door-to-door this weekend the way the Nevada Obama Campaign is asking is doubtful. But the gradual shift in mood from the wait line to the end of Hillary's speech would seem to show that die-hard Hillaryites can at least be persuaded to think about Obama.

Comments

[mooph]

Hill has already told PUMA to knock it off, says she doesn't support what they're doing. Perhaps these would-be crossover voters are waiting for what Hill derided earlier in the campaign:

"Let's just get everybody together. Let's get unified. The sky will open. The light will come down. Celestial choirs will be singing, and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect."

And perhaps they're waiting for her to be that motivating force ... or the woman behind the curtain pulling the levers and strings. So far, however, I haven't seen her pull much out of her hat toward the Democrats' cause.

[Cedman]

The theory of PUMA is as dillusional as its members. The theory is that by supporting McCain, Obama will lose and Hillary will take her rightful place in 2012. Should the first half of the equation take place, the vast majority of African American's will accuse HRC of having sabotage his chances and will turn on her with a PUMA revolt of our own. If PUMA is such a force of love and devotion for Clinton why is she still $20 million in the red? Can't 18 million strong send her a buck each?

[Beninn]

It won't only be African-Americans.

There are barely 500 PUMAs. HiIIary never had 18 million dedicated supporters. About 4 million were Republicans and Independents who admitted they were voting for Mc in the general election, but wanted him to run against HiIIary -- so much for her value as the VP. More millions are experiencing buyer's remorse after having voted for her early in the primary season and not liking what they saw as the primaries dragged on and she refused to accept that there was no way she could win.

[closetodemfection]

Have you gone mad? Uh, look at the polls. The generic ballot is up by 15%. Why is O tied? You think that's 500 people? That's laughable. O won't win the general without them and therefore if he is the nominee - he won't win the general.

As far as any revolts, there are a growing number of AA PUM@s - the bubble has burst with that community too. As well as the gays. So you can either stop the revolt you know about that's willing to vote Repub... or you can worry about the made up revolt that would never vote Rebub. What makes more sense I wonder?

[Cakey4814]

PUMA and what it stands for says it all..it has nothing to do with the issues..it­'s Obama beating this entitled White woman and now her entitled White supporters are furious and acting like spoiled brats. This articulate Black man ran a flawless campaign and beat Hillary fair and square but these PUMA folks obviously don't take defeat well. I'm sure they're the ones that will sue the softball team because Timmy didn't make it and then blame the coaches, etc. The linked memo's show that Hillary ran a terrible campaign along with her hubby but somehow Obama is the culprit here. Please, by all means, vote for McCain..ju­st like me it's only one vote. Obama will prevail in spite of these whiny; can't accept defeat spiteful people!!

[WFV]

My mom worked at a ball-bearing factory during World War II, and I have supported the winning candidate since the day he announced his candidacy.

Where do they get these people?

[JanetE]

And my mom was a stay at home mother, what's your point?
The fact is that Obama changes like the wind according to the polls and what the Dem leaders tell him to say. Obamapuppet. They want him to win so they can control him. They would not have been able to control Hillary.

It was a very big mistake to make Obama the nominee and apparently, as he sees it, king of the world. And you guys think John Edwards had a big head?

John Edwards has been talking about his affair and that he became narcissistic and thought he could do no wrong because of all the adulation he received as a senator and vice presidential candidate. YIKES!
So how must all this adulation be affecting Obama? It is clear. He feels he can change his mind about anything and everything and everyone will just follow right along. Have you heard the flute and are you following along in a line like a good little girl or boy? THINK, PEOPLE! Think with your heads. Actually, it's too late for that, isn't it.

[w8aminute]

I guess you think like Bush and everyone should 'stay the course forever' too. Nothing is wrong with changing your mind as you learn more - or if compromise will help in the long run. I'd much rather have a leader like Obama. As far as your 'king of the world' statement, you are too brain-washed by GOP attack ads. Many of us feel that there is nothing wrong with having your allies actually like you. But if you are proud of the fact that you would rather vote for the man that is totally opposite Hillary's stand on the issues - health care, women's rights, education - vote for McCain. You will make Hillary irrelevant, and also insult her by voting for the man that said Chelsea got her looks from Janet Reno (among other insults).

[CynicalViewer]

As a Nevada feminist and Democrat, I've got to say that saving this country from the horrors of another 4 or 8 years of Republican rule is far more important than putting a woman in the White House, or even the Vice President's mansion.

I never liked Hillary Clinton for three reasons: (1) She takes big money from a long list of reprehensible corporate democrats and faux democrats, (2) she's a manipulator of the first order and (3) most of what she said on the campaign trail was hot air.

That's not to say I don't like Hillary's rank and file women supporters. They are the ones who each have a tale about facing hideous discrimination during their working lives, just because they are women. I just wish these women would set aside their anger for a minute, and think about making this a better country for their children and grandchildren. They won't achieve that goal in voting for John McCain and the corporate Republican machine. If McCain is elected the vehement hatred of and discrimination against working women will simply continue.

[MissDaphne]

I'm with you. Amen!
Anita

[Wood]

That would be asking too much.. Where on earth did they get this notion that BAM was a key contributor to the sexism that HC faced on the trail? Mind-boggl­ing...

[trinity]

You would think that they would put aside their anger about Hillary and think about the rights of their daughters and granddaughters that may be squelched if we get McCain (and his conservative appointments) forthe next 4/8 years.

[RedKnuckles]

The diedhard Hillary followers and poomas are locked into a perpetual delusion, not unlike UFO fanatics, Bigfoot believers, and Milton Freedman free trade economists. This mass delusion is now a cult of personality, with Hillary as their leader, or rather focus of their belief system. Ironically, while they have long accused 0bama followers of blindly following a Messiah or religious cult, when they in fact are doing just that themselves. They are willing to destroy anything in their way of vindication for the object of their desire. They care only for themselves and their own righteousness and are more than willing to make the country suffer 4 more years, or possibly 8, of republican rule to salve their wounds.

[monclean]

yes, yes, yes.

[dct1999]

Hillary Clinton is unelectable because she has permanently alienated african americans. No democrat can take the WH without overwhelming support from black voters. She is toast, and she has only herself, her husband, and their henchmen to blame.

[mjc]

Name one thing that Hillary Clinton said or did that "permanently alienated african americans". The Clintons have long been advocates for the American blacks and there are many who still support Hillary Clinton today. Think it is hubris on your part to believe that she cannot take the WH without "overwhelming support from black voters".

[Enlightened22]

The way Bill clearly downgraded Obama's victory in SC and the rest of his candidacy. The fact that she even said McCain was ready to be President and Obama was not, a kind of comment unheard of in other primaries. Her appeal to hard-working white people toward the end of the primaries, something so racially charged I had to listen to it a couple of times before admitting she had said that. And now the campaign memo coming out suggesting the strategy was to paint Obama as "foreign, other". Should I go on?

[Wood]

Name one thing that BAM and his campaign promoted that was sexist?

[Christy1947]

Lemme see. "Hard working Americans, white Americans" "He's not a Muslim ---as far as I know, " being involved in the circulation of the Somali photo and then saying we couldn't hold her responsible for what a member of her staff might have done, she couldn't control what her staff did" , calling O UnAmerican and UnDemocratic when he disagreed with her position on Michigan and Florida, helping to circulate the Wright tapes and then challenging his attendance at a specifically black church which she said she (sniff, sniff) certainly would not have attended, saying that it took a President to get a civil rights law (as compared to MLK), suggesting in June that she would stay in the Race because the RFK assasination had been in June when she knew how anxious black folk are that someone will assassinate O, and then trying to pretend she was misuderstood when called on it. . . . A lot of other choices.

[obamagirl1968]

I still want to know how voting or McSame is honoring Hillary or making up for the treatment of her by the MEDIA (NOT Obama)....­.?

McCain is an anti-choice, wife dissing, war hawk; the total anti-thesis of an anti-war, pro-choice, wife/woman loving Obama.

[presto]

Woman-loving Obama? Please, please...t­hat's a campaign slogan we can totally do without.

[becky]

I still can't believe democrats elected Barack Obama, when the smartest strongest candidate is in Hillary Clinton. I have been a lifelong moderate Democrat. After the way Hillary was treated in this campaign, I have decided the democratic party is not for me. Neither is the republican party. I
am Independent now. What Freedom! Thank You Obama Supporters, pundits for Obama, and blogs such as this one. You've changed the democratic party in ways you can't even imagine.

[Rotwang]

HRC was treated like every other candidate, and she ran a campaign as dirty and underhanded as anyone else.

I will never understand the people who think she was treated "unfairly.­"

[MrPragmatic]

It is delusional to even think that HRC was treated like any other candidate. MSNBC anybody? She was railroaded by much of the press as they carried water for BO. Sorry, this life long democrat is voting for McSane. That way we can have HRC in 4 years.

HRC, 2008
Obama=back to the senate (just to get more experience)

[dct1999]

Hillary will never be elected president because she is permanently incapble of winning the black vote. She and her husband committed political suicide.

[presto]

I am an Obama supporter but I think the Clintons were completely trashed in the primaries. The African American vote was manipulated and when the dust settles common sense will return. Neither Clinton is a racist - they have both spent their lives pushing hard on civil rights issues. The racism charges nearly turned me off the Democratic Party entirely and they certainly have made me a much more tepid Obama supporter.

[JanetE]

No no no dct1999, she and her husband did not commit political suicide regarding the black vote. That was a homicide and the Obama campaign was the killer.

[WFV]

So, Becky, who will you vote for? Party affiliation means nothing without a candidate to believe in.

[JanetE]

So the solution is to vote for McCain with a Democratic Congress.
Then you get Democratic policies but no Obama to screw up the country.

We need McCain for the checks and balances part of our system.
The Democrats will go hogwild spending and punishing Exxon for making money etc etc ..... but McCain will be there to make sure they don't get out of hand.

Perfect Solution.

[MissDaphne]

But they did. I did. I'm a fifty-mumble white woman and a life long democrat. It's time to believe it.
One question: Are you better off now, after eight years of Republicans having everything their own way, than you were in 2000? I know I'm not. I know the oil companies are. I know that the good folks who dreamed up the creative mortgage scam are. But I'm not. Are you?
Ideology is nice. But who do you think is going to be worrying about making sure our lives are better next year? It sure isn't John McCain.

[JanetE]

I am just like you MissDaphne.

I cannot trust whatever the heck Obama actually stands for now because it is quite different from what it was while he was running against Hillary (FISA anyone?). I do not trust him. I cannot vote for him.

So this is what I am considering doing:

I will vote for (gulp) McCain whom I do not consider to be a full-fledged Republican, someone who has worked "across the aisle" many times in his long senatorial career - and he has gotten a lot done. ACTION, not words, action.

The Congress will be mostly Democratic. They will not allow him to pass through anything that they don't like.

So I get exactly what I want: Democratic policies + Nobama!
And that's my solution.

[Beninn]

I don't want to rerun the primaries because she lost and this is the time for people with Democratic values to come together to make sure that finally, after 14 years, Democrats have the opportunity to take back the White House and Congress, and try to get the country back on course. Because our very lives depend on it.

I have to wonder about people who claim to have Democratic values, who are identifying with a woman who didn't think about them at all throughout the last sixteen years that Republicans have been taking apart this country.

I have to wonder if you paid attention to the primaries. How do you account for HiIIary's repetitive lies? Dodging snipers? Her backing Boosh on the war, when her own husband (who also lied) got the same intell briefing that Boosh did, said he wouldn't have done what Boosh did.

This is craziness. How crazy are HiIIary's followers to think their own feelings should be given consideration over the very continuation of civilization on the planet? I'm not a fan of O's, but if you and HiIIary keep this up, he's going to lose. You want that. That's sick. You will be blamed, as well you should. And held in scorn just as the followers of Hagee and Tony Perkins, and Pat Robertson.

[GoldCanyonGal]

I'm not angry with Obama...I simply don't think he's qualified to lead this country in a time of such strife...I am done with the Democratic Party, insulted by the way my vote has been taken for granted for 36 years, and incensed by the shoddy way this Primary was handled. Having said that, I still have not made up my mind whether to vote for Obama or not...I know I'm tired of being part of a Party that gives me a candidate I have to accept as 'better than nothing' or 'better than the alternative' (like Kerry)...'­better than McCain' just isn't enough for me this year...may­be the strategy of building support for a third party is a better idea...we'­ll see.

Hillary's just fine..she'­ll do what she wants to do about Obama, about the Party, about her own future...t­here's really no point in trying to overthrown the Primary at the Convention, Hillary would not accept the nomination at this point even if her supporters were able to pull that one off...but since when do we overthrow the Party Charter and sqash a rollcall vote of Primary delegates? There's a process for the Democratic Primary that is outlined in it's Charter...­the fact that Dean, for the second or third time now has just thrown that Charter out the window is unacceptab­le...I won't be part of that.

[JimR]

One of the most baffling things to me is people's belief in this fiction that Hillary Clinton somehow has more experience than Obama. He has 11 years in elected office, being held accountable to voters. She has 7. The vast majority of her purported 35 years of experience consisted of little more than being married to a public official. She had no security clearance and was not an adviser to the president (if there are documents showing that she was, they haven't been released), yet people seem to think that somehow she gained presidential experience through some sort of osmosis, simply by living in the White House.

[mjc]

JimR, the "public official" just happened to be a president and if you think first Ladys don't have advise to give their spouse, you need to check your own marriage..­..if you are married. There are many first Ladys who traveled, as Hillary did, to other countries, to advocate for this nation's interests. Eleanor Roosevelt was a much loved and much hated FL and she was Hillary Clinton heroine. She was active for many years as a lawyer for the Children's Defense Fund, an advocacy group for ALL children in poverty who needed legal help and protection.

[Justsaynodeal]

You have drunk the koolaid.

[Beninn]

This is what the CIint0ns want. The relitigation of the primaries. Don't fall into it. I don't know if you've got kids, but "no" means "no". You don't let them keep trying to wear you down. If you don't draw that line in the sand now, you will be a patsy for the same tactics when Mc and the Repubs use them again (as Boosh has done the last 2 terms). Like drilling for oil off the coasts and in ANWR -- We said NO. How many times do we have to keep doing this? We are for the development of clean sustainable alternatives. NOTHING ELSE WILL DO!

[Bozwellian]

The C's themselves have "not goten over it " and yes HRC is stumping , but her enthusiams is thin and it shows let alone that of her husbands comments which still end up being more about him. IF these PUMA's are really in the rut they claim, they are there by choice and NOT due to concern of ISSUES THAT MATTER MOST OF ALL FOR THE GREATER COMMON GOOD OF ALL..Some feel it IS their FEMINISTA duty, but others have other reasons , are looking for "satisfactory" cover excuses why THEY simply can NOT vote Obama and will go McCain which is so totally misguided if ISSUES were the true concern !!! Think many may indeed be trolls sent in ,set up to cause mischief, think the CLintons have failed to put a definitve check on it but that was obvious from her last night on primary trail, where her defeat was QUITE evident/confirmable yet allowed herself to be intro'd as "NEXT PRESIDENT" dangled what SHE indeed would do as well as NOT congratulating the OBVIOUS winner nor releasing her delegates and allowing DEMANDS to be negotiated-THEY LOST, did NOT make the sale but more importantly, the OUTCOME of this NOv's election ,the direction this nation gets led to/by is far more critical to all and the real GREATER COMMON GOOD which should be their main concern, but they demand respect while DISRESPECTING the REALITY and THE "greater common good" that IS at stake !!!

[closetodemfection]

Respecting Democracy is for the greater common good. Without it, the party is dead. There is no winner until August. Delegates can vote for whom they chose. Read a history book.

[Rotwang]

Read the writing on the wall. It's larger.

[TerBoy]

Why do we continue to give ink to these dimwits? Seriously. As Barack said the other day about Republicans who snigger about energy efficiency, "It's as if they're proud to be ignorant." Well, I'm a woman over fifty who participated in and benefitted from the hard work of the women's movement. And yet these Hillary-obsessed women would rather throw in their lot with a more misogynistic candidate than George W. Bush; a candidate who will skew the court so far to the right faster than you can say "barefoot and pregnant"; a candidate who will add to the burden of working women by making healthcare even less accessible and by adding to the debt by increasing the tax cuts to the rich; a candidate who would rather escalate the war than seek diplomatic solutions. PUMAs do NOT do their candidate proud. They reinforce the impression that it's all about her rather than bettering the lives of most Americans.

[mjc]

Hillary Clinton is the only Democrat who is electable. There will be many women and men who believing that cannot vote for Obama. Since the DNC and the Obama campaign already believe that Barack Obama IS the presidential candidate for the Democratic Party they will allow Hillary Clinton to campaign for Obama but not allow her delegates to vote on her candidacy, which was suspended, not ended. If that happens, let there be no whining from Obamacons when he loses because the blame can be laid only at their feet. If Obama is afraid of something, and I think he should be, it is that Hillary Clinton could get the support of a majority of the delegates at the Convention.

[Rotwang]

Fine. And it the PUMAtoids succeed in getting her nominated in Denver, they alone will take the blame for forcing HRC to run an underfunded, 60-day campaign as the Nominee of the Party that Crucified Its Own 'Messiah' On Live TV and Substituted the Woman Republicans Love to Hate."

Here's the GOP theme: "Why should Their SECOND Choice for President be America's FIRST Choice?"

Republicans will dance a jig. Obama supporters will stay away in droves or vote for Johnny Mac. HRC will suffer an epic loss, and return to the Senate as the new Ted Kennedy. There will be no 2012 run President.

PUMAs are like the spiteful date who slashes the tires on your car, even though you were her only ride home. They are willing to destroy the Party AND their own Goddess, just so someone will pay attention to them.

[mjc]

If Obama loses, and there is good evidence to think he just might, the blame will clearly be on him and his "handlers", John Dean and Donna Brazile; that is even if she is selected as vice president; that is even if her name is allowed to placed in nomination for the presidency. Early on they dreamed up this punishment for two big states out of five to deny Clinton those votes. Then in a blatant coup gave Obama half of the votes that had gone to Clinton. The blame will clearly be on Obama's campaign and the DNC so-called leadership. So get ready for it.

[Justsaynodeal]

"HRC to run an underfunded, 60-day campaign"

She can run with public funding and beat McCain without spending $500 million bucks.

"Obama supporters will stay away in droves or vote for Johnny Mac."

This from all those 0baminations who call passionate Hill supporters traitors, even before their is an actual legitamate nominee,

[Kristin262]

It won't happen. Most pundits indicate that Hillary has lost delegates since June. Hillary won't want to be embarrassed by her decrease in delegates.

[Justsaynodeal]

Pledged delegates are pledged and will vote for whomever they are pledged on the first ballot. SDs are not the same, they can support whomever they wish, just look at how they bounced back and fourth during the primaries to the highest bidder. I really do get the impression that obaminations don't know how the political process works.

[NoSandwiches]

She is not electable. . Let's say that she throws her name in the hat, delegates suddenly agree with you, and she is the nominee. Then what?

She has no team. She has no money. She has no time. She has no chance to be elected.

We have already reached the point of no return. That is why she suspended as soon as the primaries were over--so that we could try to pull things together and work on getting our nominee elected. You dishonor her own wishes by threatening to not support the party she has worked so hard for.

I was a Hillary supporter in the beginning. I cried tears of joy at how she was the opposite of W in so many respects. She did not win.

We are where we are.

Hillary knows this. She wants to have a future career and if you and yours blow this for the Democrats, the blame goes on her. She is a great senator. She could be an important part of the future of America from that position, but only if the Democrats don't sour on her.

You care about Hillary? Just. Let. Go.

[mjc]

I care about this nation. Hillary Clinton is the only candidate qualified to lead it in what looks to be a very dangerous time. Clinton will have no trouble getting support or staff and all the electability that Obama DOES NOT HAVE will be evident to all Americans. The polls have, as of today Obama and McCain separated by only 1 point, Gallup has McCain ahead and Rassmussen has Obama ahead by a whopping ONE (1) point. If Hillary's name is included, she beats them both by about 8.
What Hillary Clinton did not win was the Democratic Party coup that gave Obama votes that were hers and allowed the delegates to divided up for Obama's total.
If I let go, I will let go of the Democratic Party. It isn't up to Obama, Obama's campaign, John Dean, or Donna Brazile to determine Hillary Clinton's future. That is bright.

[JanetE]

Excuse me? Did you just say that if Obama loses everyone will blame Hillary?
LOL! She's blamed for everything, isn't she. If Obama loses it will be because Obama cannot be trusted to lead the country. That's how I feel, a lifelong Democrat and former Hillary supporter.

Unfortunately, because I no longer believe anything he says (because he could change his mind two weeks from now), I have actually been changing the station whenever he comes on and trying really hard to listen to what McCain has to say. IT USED TO BE THE OPPOSITE!

Obama and McCain are no longer all that much apart in their platforms. So now it is a matter of who we trust. I do not trust Obama. I WISH I could, but I cannot.

[PumaAnn]

Interestin­g.....PUMA­S....we're everywhere. I'm continually surprised by how that grassroots movement is growing daily.

[gapanther]

Yes, trash does tend to pile up.

[Rotwang]

Many people believe the world will end on December 21, 2012.

Quite a few argue that the earth is hollow.

A large number claim to have seen angels.

I respect their numbers, but I would not want them to have an impact on national politics.

[loax]

I think Hillary did a great job, I only hope these people really listen to what he is saying. We caanot afford another four years of terror with a Republican regime in the White House.