Obama's Key To The Blue Collar Vote

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The Saturday before the North Carolina primary, Joe Klein of Time and I separately spent a long time talking to Tammy, an army veteran and mother of four standing next to the press rail before the Rotary Centennial Pavilion in Gastonia. Senator Clinton was, unusually for her, very late to her rally (some snafu with air traffic control not recognizing Gov. Easley-- a harbinger of just how much his stumping for Clinton was going to count in the end). What Joe and Tammy discussed I don't know, but she and I, along with her second daughter Casey, got into the subject of education. I had asked Tammy if she was from around Gastonia originally, and the answer was no-- Niagara Falls.

"You have to understand," Tammy says, "the only way out of Niagara for people like me is the military. I've got college, too-- but the education wasn't much good. I'd've given anything for the schools they [Clinton and Obama] went to." Tammy regards me fiercely. An intelligent woman, she knows what she has missed. And now her sense of loss is focused on her gifted daughter Casey, whose middle school, a magnet school for science and math, is soon to close. As it is, Tammy says, because of No Child Left Behind, Casey's teachers teach to the dumbest kids in the class. Tammy is aggrieved. From what I've heard on the campaign trail, people are concerned not nearly so much about the loss of jobs, or the war in Iraq, or the price of gas, as they are about their children's education. Tammy wants opportunities like Wellesley, Columbia, Harvard and Yale for her daughter, but already those colleges are receding from seventh-grade Casey into the far distance.

After listening to Clinton speak on her education plan (universal pre-K, scrapping NCLB, better support and salaries for teachers, college tax credits and government-backed low-interest student loans), Tammy decided to give Hillary her vote. I point out that Senator Obama is making much the same proposals--and if anything, his education plan is more ambitious. But Tammy has not had a chance to hear Senator Obama. Nor have many of the other concerned parents in lower-middle-class neighborhoods, small towns and outlying commuter hamlets like Gastonia across the country.

If Barack Obama can talk about education to enough Tammies and Caseys, he will have his blue collar vote. In one way, it's as simple as merely showing up in Gastonia. Really he needs to follow the Bill Clinton itineraries--even though this may entail some campaign swallowing of pride--and hold front porch rallies across the battleground states. The Obama Campaign should adopt the Clinton modus operandi of last-minute announcements of town/neighborhood visits so that passionate loyalists don't show up in numbers that overwhelm the locals. Senator Obama is going to need his dedicated base in order to govern; but now he needs them to keep back so that he can reach out to other Americans.

Hillary and Bill Clinton have known where to find these reluctant Democrats. They also know who these folks are better and closer than Obama does. At most every rally and meeting for the last three months, for example, Senator Clinton early on has asked, "What interest rate are you paying on your student loans?" Always hands rise for twenty, twenty-three, twenty-five, even thirty percent. It's a misperception that less materially well-off--not to mention rural--white Americans don't have higher education, if not for themselves, then for their children. Somebody in the family has gone to college, taken some courses. It's just that they've had to pay more (relatively speaking) and to work harder for less-- in education, as elsewhere. Knowing this, Hillary Clinton has zeroed straight in on these folks' educational hardships and their desires that their children and grandchildren have better.

Returning from another Clinton North Carolina town hall meeting, I turn on the TV to find the Huff Post's own Hilary Rosen discussing the Democratic race on a cable news show. Rosen is surprised that Senator Clinton has gotten 45 percent of the youth vote in Pennsylvania. "Tell me what your problems are" is the Hillary Clinton approach, Rosen says. "But young people have no problems!" Rosen adds with a laugh. If I hadn't been out on the campaign trail, likely I would think the same. In Fayetteville that afternoon, however, Senator Clinton had taken the most dispiriting and heart-breaking questions from twenty-somethings that I've witnessed in many months. These were military, husbands and wives of military, struggling with the reality that veterans' benefits no longer cover or even begin to cover the cost of a college education. These were young women juggling children and college while worrying about husbands on third tours of duty. These were young vets who, as is increasingly being reported in the North Carolina press, aren't getting the psychiatric and logistical support they need in order to make it in college.

Not all college students are the jaunty and saucy but idealistic set Barack Obama has attracted from day one. If Senator Obama can speak to the rest, not only the parents like Tammy or the Fayetteville veterans, but also people like the young woman at his own rally in Beaumont, Texas, who asked Obama what could be done for students like her sister-- a college drop-out who discovered she didn't have the preparation she needed to stay there-- then he has an opportunity to reach their hearts and minds. But doing that requires getting to know people and sitting with them for a spell.

A universal rule of human nature is that desire is inversely proportional to need. Therefore, Americans who have the most always need more while those who have less ask for less. Michelle Obama perfectly understands this, for in her speeches she often uses her father's life as an example of the fact that "folks don't want all that much." The Clintons understand this, and in their small-town stump speeches they try--against the grain of their far-ranging policy interests--to get into only a few issues for more than a sentence. Therefore, speaking to small-town America on the subject of education alone-- if he understands where people are coming from on that subject-- would garner Senator Obama votes.

This is the mistake--addressing too many issues--that Obama made with the various Hispanic populations in Texas. Rhetorically, the way to look people in the eye that conveys "I understand you" is to focus remarks. Spanish-speaking Texans are not a monolithic group. Families whose Tejano roots pre-date the Civil War don't share the outlook of Central American immigrants. Not all Hispanics are Catholics; many now are charismatics or Protestant evangelicals. But Hispanic Texans together are bewildered that their children don't do better in school. Like all Americans, they want a better life for the next generation, and therefore it is education, and not health care or immigration or jobs, that is their number one concern.

Tuesday in a press conference call, David Plouffe, Obama's campaign manager, said that education is "the key to our country's future." Likely his comment was a graceful tribute to the achievements of former Colorado governor Roy Romer, whose endorsement of Senator Obama was the purported subject of the call. But Plouffe's remark, if incidental to the occasion, is true. Just as I'm writing this, John Edwards is endorsing Barack Obama. Minutes ago, Edwards sent out a fundraising email targeted at helping Greene County, North Carolina, send its high school students to college. At this point in time, the solicitation for young people in Greene County is much more important than the endorsement. I think even David Plouffe would agree.

 
 

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OMG, could we PLEASE stop already with the insults back and forth between the Hillaristas and the Obamabites?

Let's all calm down and take a deep breath and think about what it is we are voting for: we are voting for a change from the Bush years, right? Well, we're not going to get that if McCain is in the White House, so we have to come together to heal the democratic party instead of continuing to take it apart and get behind our nominee. Whoever that may be.

Somebody has to lose. That's the reality of life. Let's hope that the bad blood caused by this loss does not mean that we also lose in November.

We're not in middle school, folks. But some of us sure sound like it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 05/17/2008

Some of us ARE in middle school. But it doesn't take a high school education to recognize the difference between deciding based on personality AND politics versus reacting based on emotional connection and a deep-seated sense that a candidate represents one's own longed-for success, between believing in a candidate's policies versus what they represent, and between doing what's best for the nation over what feels good.

Too many people injecting their own feelings, desires, and biases into a campaign so that they can't see beyond their preconceived notions and the sense that they or their candidate are "owed" something as if that sort of blind personal loyalty isn't the driving force behind our cirrent partisan disasters can't help but rile us. There's so much that older people can't grasp, and so little trust for those younger, that they call us ignorant or inexperienced and show disdain for our decisions when we're the ones making decisions based on facts and reason while they deepen gulfs between those of differing perceptions.

The bad blood isn't due to those of "us" baiting "them", but due to the very personal and very emotional sources of a loyalty that insists on overlooking political need and rational arguments in search of the vicarious fulfillment of dreams that is being snatched away by reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 AM on 05/18/2008

This is Obamas entire Campaign... Any Questions?


"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama

Can you name any accomplishments in Congress for Obama, he votes Present because he is too weak to take a stand on issues. He is just and empty suit with charisma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 AM on 05/17/2008

There may be a bigger, more important picture here that you have yet to figure out.

If your logic is, its the votes in Congress that matter when electing a President, then you must take in consideration Hillary's vote to go to war. We all know how that turned out. I can go on listing other votes from both Hillary and McCain that had devastating effects on our Nation-like authorizing Bush to use military force on the population of Iran, babies and all.

Your flawed logic also says that a truly competent and mentally fit Governor can not be considered. Neither can some genius giant in the corporate world, or some truly gifted person from the world or theology, or science or a brave General-they don't meet you irrelevant vote in Congress bar.

Brilliant on you. The only people you will consider for President are people from Congress.

You live in a short sighted and small universe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 05/20/2008

They can't , that is why they will always respond with the Clinton campaign lies. The truth is for as much as the Obama supporters hate to admit is he has none. Not one, not a single one. They also fail to realize that many people who supported Obama in his early years are against him now. Hmmm, Why? Perhaps they know St. Obama a little better than you do by watching his talking points on the boob tube.

But let us not let facts and reality get in the way of making a true and real informed decision, after all we have found our messiah. It really is no wonder why we have had 8 years of Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 05/19/2008

Blah, blah, blah. I don't care. Vote for McCain if you don't like the Democratic candidate.

Repeating Republican (Clinton) talking points without any evidence or research on your part is foolish. He has a domestic program, a foreign policy, and a point of view that reflects my own. If you would bother to find out what his campaign is all about, then you could comment intelligently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 05/18/2008

There's plenty of evidence. Ask anyone to list Obama's legislative accomplishments and
no one can answer. If you check you;ll see that Obama missed 38% of the votes in his brief time in the Senate , yet frequently voted "present" when he did show up. We don't need a president like that. When you're looking at this from the standpoint of a resume
you wouldn't hire someone like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/20/2008

JERUSALEM 04/14/08 Hamas has expressed "hope" Sen. Barack Obama will
win the elections and "change" America''s foreign policy. ,I understand American
politics & this is the season for elections & everybody tries to sound like
he''s a friend of the Israelis" said Ahmed Yousuf.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g

I was just given this link at Savagepolitics.com
It is a video of phone bank for OBAMA, on the Gaza strip !!! PLO
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 05/17/2008

This guy wants to be our President and control our government.

Pay close attention to the last comment Below are a few lines from
Obama''s books '' his words:



From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother''s
race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was
ingratiating myself to whites."

From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a
pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mothers race."

From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that
made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

From Dreams of My Father: "It remained necessary to prove
which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out
and name names."

From Dreams of My Father: " I never emulate white men and brown
men whose fates didn''t speak to my own. It was into my father''s image, the
black man, son of Africa, that I''d packed all the attributes I sought in
myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should
the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

The issue is not Black or White. The main and serious problem is the last
sentence (see above.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 05/17/2008

no but one, oh i forget, TWO votes in favor of a "dumb war" is enough to disqualify her in the opinion of many...and that's just one reason amongst a myriad...she has set a poor example for a Democratic candidate...now she can reap what she has sown...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 05/16/2008

Obama worked on Chicago's far South Side for a community group based in the churches of the region, an expanse of white, black and Latino blue-collar neighborhoods that were reeling from the steel-mill closings. Kellman was looking for an organizer for the new Developing Communities Project (DCP), which would focus on black city neighborhoods.

Obama, struck board members as "awesome" and "extremely impressive," and they hired him, at $13,000 a year, plus $2,000 for a car--a beat-up blue Honda Civic, which Obama drove for the next three years organizing more than twenty congregations to change their neighborhoods.

Obama worked in the organizing tradition of several networks of faith-based organizing. Often by confronting officials with insistent citizens--rather than exploiting personal connections, as traditional black Democrats proposed--Obama and DCP protected community interests regarding landfills and helped win employment training services, playgrounds, after-school programs, school reforms and other public amenities.

One day a resident at Altgeld Gardens, a geographically isolated public housing project surrounded by waste sites, brought a notice about planned removal of asbestos from the project manager's office. Obama organized the community to find out if there was asbestos in their apartments. They persisted as officials lied and delayed, then took a bus--with far fewer people than Obama had anticipated--to challenge authorities downtown. Ultimately, the city was forced to test all the apartments and eventually begin cleaning them up.

From http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 05/16/2008

Obama is in over his head with Blue Collar voters, as he is with an Obama Presidency. Hope, Change, Blah Blah Blah are all intangible rhetoric that will always sound like Charlie Browns teacher to many of these Americans. Obama"s life experience overseas, Harvard and the south side of Chicago is totally foreign and inadequate to make any genuine connection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 05/16/2008

ntmessage,

It is always the same people. You and four others that search the internet to sprew hate about Obama. Obama is not in over his head. He was talking about education tax credit before Hillary was. He does not have a problem connecting to some white voters, they have a problem connecting to him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 05/16/2008

Enough of us have had the experience to understand that "Change" usually is an idea some new guy on the block has found to stick you with your next bad deal, and short-change you once again. To get vague promises of change and hope for better things for your children isn't different at all, it's more of the same. Obama hasn't got a prayer that will give him the blue collar votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 05/16/2008

We Don't Want Obamas Changes:

OBAMA is standing in front of the camera himself for 52 seconds explaining how
he will DISARM
the USA.

What we are talking about here IS NOT about politics and the differing
views concerning issues¦..this is about the potential literal destruction of
this country by our enemies and our inability to defend ourselves against those
attacks.

This is a very short (52 seconds) video by Barak Obama in his own words
about how he plans to destroy our defense capabilities if elected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 05/17/2008

Exactly. Your problem is that you are a right winger. These are reasons to vote for Obama, not vote against him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 05/18/2008
- M.S. Bellows, Jr. - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of M.S. Bellows, Jr.

Mayhill: boy, do you have some good insights, and an elegant, elegant pen. Your time on the trail doesn't seem to have fried you; you're more focused and observant than ever. May Obama experience the same thing. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 05/15/2008

You know, Mayhill, Obama could have been talking to alot of people about alot oof issues, but instead, he had to defend himself against some remarks that were taken out of context.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 05/15/2008

Blame it on something else; Saint Obama couldn't just not have the experience and compassionate interactions that Hillary has based upon helping others since she got out
of law school. First with the Children's defense fund, reforming the Arkansas educational system which ranked in the lowest 5% in the country to the top 5% in the country today (and all those children who went to Arkansas schools since the 80's have a better chance in life because of a better education), lobbying the Congress to pass SCHIPs and Bills administration to sign it after failing with the universal health care plan she tried to get passed. Now with the war in Iraq causing so many problems with this current post high school crowd, she authored the Heroes at Home to help soldiers with PTSD and TBI, with Sen Graham (R) passed legislation to increase death benefits from $12,000 to $100,000 for families of KIAs, and she helped get National Guard and Reserve members access to tricare, the military health care system. She talks with people in a way that they understand because she has done these things......experience helps,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 05/15/2008

right...and she can continue her cause from the Senate chambers...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 05/16/2008

and she can continue her cause from the Senate chambers...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 05/16/2008


Her experience is crap - that is why she dropped that argument. It was just more lies & she was getting caught.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 05/15/2008

Just what experience does your Saint Obama have?........2yrs state legislature, ran for US Senate, 6 more years in state legislature (where he voted 126 time as present, not taking a stand on a bill), and ran for US Senate and won against crazy Alan Keyes, another black and perennial candidate who was no competition. In US Senate 1 1/2 yrs and ran for POTUS..........has his name on two bills he co-sponsored and under 50% voting record....He should have called his book "The Audacity of Ambition!"

Just what am I missing. Maybe you can tell me all the things he has accomplished, that makes you think he can clean up the mess Bush is leaving this country?

Obama speaks of the "extreme urgency of now" and he is right about that, but I see the urgency of now as having a POTUS, who can restore this country to a vibrant economy and earn the respect of the world for America as we once had. I see that urgency as having someone who can get us out of Iraq with honor and safely, as the 35 retired generals and Admirals, who have worked with her on the Armed Services Committee think Hillary can do.

And again, what has Obama accomplished and what is the experience has had that will qualify him to be PORUS in these times of peril?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 05/16/2008

to be fair, obama didn't spend all of his time defending himself--he spent most of his time making stump speeches about a vague notion of "change," which is somewhat harder to sell to those who need the most help from the next government. the light, "inspirational" style that attracted urban professionals who have the luxury of not worrying as much about the economy was the very style that made him seem irrelevant to many blue collar voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 05/15/2008

Well whatever he has been selling is good. Hillary never packed a house before in her life until Obama. Bill nor Hillary packed a house until Obama started running. He is still packing them in and they are voting for him. He is way in the lead. Obama will be find. He will have help very very soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 05/16/2008

I am from small town Montana. I am a "blue collar" worker. I see the need for change. I also appreciate inspiration once in a while. I just know that when the Clintons were in before, it was one scandal after another. Lies & more lies. The HillBillies just want their house back. They need to make another $1,000,000 so they can call someonelse elitist. Give me a break

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 05/15/2008

Why are you blaming the Clintons for the witch-hunt instigated by Republicans who were mad because he interupted their chance for a Perpetual Presidency. The only thing they got on Bill was his having consentual sex with an adult female and not wanting his wife or the public to know. How could a bunch of closet homosexuals and child molesters get people like you to help destroy the only Democratic President since 1980? He even brought peace and prosperity to the Nation in spite of these "scandals".
One Anti-War speech does not a President make. Barack Obama will probably win this nomination because he had better handlers than Senator Clinton did, and not because he is the best candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 05/16/2008
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