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Kentucky Church Flap Shows Interracial Couples Still Have Hurdles

Posted: 12/05/11 04:35 PM ET

All she did was perform a song in the church she loved with the man she loved. Apparently not everyone liked that.

Stella Harville is white and her fiancee, Ticha Chikuni, is black and late last month, the Kentucky church Harville attended since she was a child voted 9-6 to ban interracial couples from becoming members or being used in worship services.

When word of this Jim Crow-esque vote seeped out, there was the appropriate hue and cry. Which is good. Then a week later the church overturned the vote and passed a resolution welcoming "believers into our fellowship regardless of race, creed or color." Which is better.

But still, the race genie is out of the bottle. And this holy mess at the Gulnare Freewill Baptist Church reminds us that as a nation, we're still not where we should be when it comes to race.

The sentiments seemingly behind the Kentucky church's original vote aren't only in Appalachia or the South. They're in pockets across the U.S. I know because I've fallen into some of them.

So between you and me, how do you really feel about interracial couples? Are you OK with it as long as: A) It's not one of your children? B) It's not in your church C) They're not gay or D) The couple's happy.

For me, I'm D. Chase your happiness. I did.

I am a black woman and I married a white man. We met in college. (Where else could a Kansas girl meet a boy from Norway?) Falling for a white guy caught me by surprise. I never thought I would date outside my race. I always said I'd be open to it, but figured there just wasn't a white guy out there who would "get" me.

I mean, who else could understand me like a black man? Who else could see the hard ugliness that lies beneath subtle racisms? Who else could understand why it's a near death sentence to playfully throw me into a pool or make jokes on how I tie my hair up before going to bed?

As I've said before, sometimes relationships with white people can be trying, I didn't want to have to bring those "teachable moments" into my relationship. Thankfully the Norwegian doesn't have those Americanized racial blinders and he sees what I see. More important, he sees me.

We were a lucky interracial couple in that our families didn't care we were dating outside our race. Though some of our "friends" did. I lost a lot of black male friends once I began seeing the Norwegian. One even asked me: "Why do you have to date a white guy? You're one of the good sistas." (Huh?)

Some of the Norwegian's buddies commended him for testing out the Blacker The Berry Theory. Needless to say, we both winnowed our friends list.

We also quickly learned that when we walked into an all-white place or an all-black place we'd get strange looks, some gawking, some disapproving. Once while walking down the street in Atlanta, a group of black guys heckled us for about a block. I responded with the proper amount of belligerence.

The Norwegian has had to check people too. There's been times when someone's made a racist comment or joke and he's responded: "My wife's African American." It apparently gets deathly quiet after that.

Most of these things have been quite manageable and haven't hurt our core like the pain of your childhood church banning your interracial relationship.

And to be fair, we've thankfully had unexpected pleasantries. While walking down Chicago's Michigan Avenue one day, a drunken, disheveled black man wavered toward us, pointing an accusing finger. "You guys are..." I held my breath and nervously clasped the Norwegian's hand tighter. "... a beautiful couple! You can see the love all over you two!" I smiled.

We've been together for 13 years and over time, most of the racial hiccups have mellowed and day-to-day I don't think about how I'm married to "A White Man." He's simply my Hubby.

And when others don't like that, it's their problem. Hang in there Stella and Ticha. To borrow a phrase from a noble project: It gets better.

 

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All she did was perform a song in the church she loved with the man she loved. Apparently not everyone liked that. Stella Harville is white and her fiancee, Ticha Chikuni, is black and late last mont...
All she did was perform a song in the church she loved with the man she loved. Apparently not everyone liked that. Stella Harville is white and her fiancee, Ticha Chikuni, is black and late last mont...
 
 
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medic628
12:37 PM on 12/20/2011
For all the confused but sometimes good church going people out there. Does this ring a bell? "Hair of wool and skin of bronze."
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medic628
12:25 PM on 12/20/2011
We have to educate one person at a time.
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NoboyukiMasaki
happy-happy, joy-joy
03:57 PM on 12/12/2011
Will you stop deleting my post?

All I said was that no one really cares about inte r ra cial couples - until it's a bl ack man and a whi te woman.
10:05 AM on 12/08/2011
In watching a piece about the Greensboro sit-ins the other night, I cried, realizing the burden these intelligent young men endured not being seen for their full greatness by a majority of society - or some not seeing any greatness in them at all, when, in reality, they were mightier than almost all of us. The courage it took for them to combat hate with love and resilience, and stand by it, until there was a change is nothing but heroic. They did not know for all of their sacrifice if there would even be a change, and they could have easily been killed, arrested or exiled. And that was only 50 years ago. It seems incredible that 50 years ago we were still so ignorant in this country. I guess some still are stuck living ignorantly. I hope my children will marry someone different from our family "norm," as our family would be strengthened by any type of diversity in race, religion, musical preference, science background - whatever. Let's hope in another 50 years, the courage today's interracial couples have shown by greeting hate with love and resilience to combat the residual hate or fear (maybe an even harder fight because it is so nebulous), will be rewarded with change.
03:39 AM on 12/08/2011
People really ought to mind their own business when it comes to "whom is being with whom". One side note to dating/marrying other ethnicities, the relatives/friends who don't like it , you will never see. This can be especially good for relatives you both have and never particularly liked but tolerated because of family, the ones who always borrow, never pay back, the drunken/fighting ones, the ones who try to run your life, etc. If they don't like your mate because of color, you won't be seeing them which just leaves the ones who either really like you or are willing to give you a chance.just like they would anyone else.
08:21 PM on 12/06/2011
One of these days, people will realize interracial dating isn't going anywhere. I live in the Bay Area and it's pretty prevalent. People don't trip over dating outside the race as previous generations.
07:31 PM on 12/06/2011
more hate is shown towards whites and white women in the black community than any small no nothing white bred church in kentucy
02:33 PM on 12/06/2011
I can.not.believe that a church banned essentially the "showing of" interracial marriage or relationships. It breaks my heart that this CHURCH, presumably a place that claims the teachings of Jesus (to love our neighbor as ourselves, etc.) to be true, by majority vote shows that they are not willing to accept their neighbor. I wouldn't even want to know the number of churches (probably mine included, sadly) that would not welcome a gay couple in their congregation. We still have a long way to go.
02:21 PM on 12/06/2011
Good point about being okay with it as long as "A. It's none of your children." My mom is fairly open-minded but often wavered when asked about this. She said it would be too hard on my children. As I became an adult, I took the view that this was just a relatively PC way to say, "No, I'm not that open-minded."
10:18 AM on 12/06/2011
I literally gasped at reading that the BANNED this. I know some people still have issue with this, especially if its with in their own family but OMG I can't even believe a church would go so far. Talk about hypocrites!!
Personally I have three boys, we are a white family living in a predominantly 'minority' community. The chances of my sons dating other races is HIGH and I am 100% ok with that. I can't honestly say I know my husband feels the same but I believe that we will love and appreciate any good girl my boys bring home regardless of race. I don't know how people can not love the person someone they care about loves. At least not without serious cause.
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papapj
..light as a feather..
09:59 AM on 12/07/2011
..A true 21st century woman.....
09:07 AM on 12/06/2011
We always talk to our kids, yes even now, about finding people who will help them be better people - even friends. And, yes, we help define what "better" means: honest, courageous, steadfast, loving... My greatest desire for them in marriage is for them to find the person who will walk with them as a friend faithfully through the tough stuff and the fun stuff, while they encourage each other to do good. I honestly don't care if that person is 2ft tall and blue. It's good to read that your love for each other shines! We need more of you.
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jessicadevyn
Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?
06:29 AM on 12/06/2011
I think 99% of interracial backlash has to do with black/white couples. The most common form of IR marriage are white men with Asian women and no one bats an eyelash.
10:10 PM on 12/05/2011
If they love each other, who are we to judge. They look happy.
09:10 PM on 12/05/2011
Black, white, gay, straight... It is about LOVE and two peoples love for one another. True love amongst people is a beautiful thing no matter what the race, no matter what the religion, no matter what the sexual orientation. We are all people, deserve to be treated as such and deserve to be able to pick (or fall in love) with a partner without being subjected to hate, fear and exclusion.