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Is Motherhood The Only Path To Success?

Posted: 07/20/2012 6:34 pm

I realize I'm about to step in it. And by "it," I mean the "Marissa Mayer is a female CEO -- and she's pregnant!" discussion that inevitably leads back to the "Can women have it all?" exchange that began last month.

As a single woman who does not have children, I already shared some thoughts on "having it all" here. I was trying to hold back on this new hot topic, but a PR pitch I received this morning pushed me right into it. It read:

So, you're not Marissa Mayer, 37-year-old newly minted CEO of Yahoo! and six-months pregnant with her first child. The picture of success for the modern woman. Can you still have it all? What lessons can be learned by Marissa's meteoric rise to the top of the business world? How can women yearning to get ahead without sacrificing family life emulate Marissa or make the best choices for themselves?

The next line was a pitch for a hair care product, because naturally, the best way to become CEO and get pregnant is with "gorgeous hair." But putting the idiocy of the PR pitch aside, are we now saying that Marissa Mayer is successful because of this equation: CEO + Mother-To-Be = Success? If it had been simply this one PR pitch, I would have put it aside. But the conversations this week around Marissa being a mother (to-be) on top of being a female CEO were already beginning to wear on me. Whatever future success I had with my career and my business, would I ever be seen as a true modern woman success story without also juggling motherhood?

Nearly 50 percent of American women are childless. While the majority of women -- about 80 to 85 percent -- become mothers eventually, most highly educated, high-income earning women like Marissa Mayer have their first baby later in life. Marissa, who turned 37 in May, will be one of the 14 percent of first-time moms who have a first birth at age 35 or older. And in general, Marissa and her college-educated cohorts are more likely to get married later than the national average (Marissa was married in 2009) and are most likely to become mothers only once married. (Only 2 percent of women age 35 and older were single at first birth in 2008, although that number is expected to grow.)

It was the line: "The picture of success for the modern woman" that really got me. Not all women can be mothers. Not all women want to be mothers. Not all women will be mothers. And not all women should be mothers. So as long as we pin "success for the modern woman" with motherhood, we will undermine some of the most gifted women in this country -- and those girls and women who aspire to be like them. Is Oprah Winfrey not a success? Is Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor not a success? Is the former United States Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, not a success?

Furthermore, Marissa has had the good fortune and ability to fall in love, get married and conceive a child, but she's not actually yet a mom. Does simply being pregnant while having an extraordinary career make you a greater success as a woman?

I have sincere respect for mothers (all mothers -- working mothers, stay-at-home mothers, etc.) and I always expected and wanted to be a mother myself. I support the challenges moms face having to or wanting to do things outside the context of motherhood. But when we say that success is only achieved when one does those things along with being a mother, we cast aside the women who are not mothers as if they are not eligible to be a "picture of success for the modern woman."

I wish Marissa all the best in all her endeavors, personal and professional. Success is relative to each person's potential. And I have a feeling she's only just begun.

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The 4th Annual Auntie's Day(R) is Sunday, July 22, 2012

Melanie Notkin is the national bestselling author of Savvy Auntie: The Ultimate Guide for Cool Aunts, Great-Aunts, Godmothers and All Women Who Love Kids (Morrow/HarperCollins)

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I realize I'm about to step in it. And by "it," I mean the "Marissa Mayer is a female CEO -- and she's pregnant!" discussion that inevitably leads back to the "Can women have it all?" exchange that be...
I realize I'm about to step in it. And by "it," I mean the "Marissa Mayer is a female CEO -- and she's pregnant!" discussion that inevitably leads back to the "Can women have it all?" exchange that be...
 
 
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01:15 PM on 07/23/2012
When it's time to change in quality, it will read " Survived by..." Just this line may make one feel good.
12:42 PM on 07/23/2012
Not sure why the author is so upset. Looks like she's fallen into the trap of letting society's definition of success for women get to her rather than allowing herself to define her own success as an individual. We've been through the women's movement and know that women are free to define their own success. Why let a PR ad or some off the cuff statement about success for women get to you?
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10:23 PM on 07/22/2012
NOBODY is suggesting that "motherhood is the only path to success". NOBODY. So why are you people having arguments with yourselves? It seems like an utter waste of time for a CEO. If a CEO of a company that I was investing in was wasting time with it, I would pull out my investments as quickly as possible. If a CEO that I worked for was wasting there time with it, I would find another job as quickly as possible. Just so you know,
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BOBinPS
Really?
10:20 PM on 07/22/2012
I totally doubt your numbers. The majority of women who become mothers at any point are largely not "most highly educated, high-income earning women".
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Cassandra45
"Let us do our best, even if it gets us nowhere."
03:43 PM on 07/22/2012
I've had the same thoughts most of my life, being one of those women who choose to do other things than have children. No matter what I achieved, there was always one or several women who would tell me, "Yes, but you didn't have CHILDREN, so you had more time to do all that!" Exactly! Which is WHY I chose not to have children, so what's their point, we ask? The implication is, if you have children, that's your excuse for not having achieved any other success in life, and you will be lauded like a goddess anyway, but if you're successful and DON'T have kids, it's only because you didn't have kids, poor you. Leaving nothing for the high achievers but motherhood AND a brilliant career, no matter the cost. Does anyone expect MEN to put as much time into their children as they do their jobs?

Interestingly, it's never, ever the men who lay these comments on women - it's women doing it to each other. I really thought we'd got past all that crap back in the 1970s with the Women's Movement, but apparently any good done by that movement got washed away. We're right back where we started, being our own worst enemies instead of supporting each other.
02:41 PM on 07/22/2012
Is there some more valuable job a woman can have than to be a mother? Who's going to care about the money you made, or the reports you wrote, the fashions you designed, etc..., as compared to how good of people your children are and how they treat other human beings?
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SmileAndActNice
Utilitarianism, the -ism that works.
11:01 PM on 07/23/2012
Now post the same thing again about men and fatherhood.

Parenthood is important, but if that was all we did we'd still be swinging about in trees.

Furthermore, plenty of women have gifts that are of benefit to humanity. One of the best brain surgeons in the world is a lady of Indian descent in Brittan. If you needed brain surgery I daresay you would be glad she completed med school and pioneered life saving techniques in the field.

I benefit from the work of Admiral Grace Hopper in the invention of the computer compiler every day as I use a compiler every day. I neither know nor care if she was a Mom. Her contributions to Computer Science were phenomenal.

Every policeman or soldier whose ever been shot at is very, very grateful that Stephanie Kwolek went into chemistry because her controversial theory was proven when she created the kevlar that their bulletproof vests are made of.

Polio used to cripple children on a regular basis. Sister Elizabeth Kenny didn't cure it, but she developed a physical therapy process to be used on sick children which kept their limbs operable and restored them to full mobility if they recovered. I don't think anyone said, "Well its nice that these millions of children can walk and all, but Ms Kenny shouldn't even be here! Shes wasting her life with this not-mothering!"
08:11 AM on 07/24/2012
Those are the exceptions, not the rule. I would say the same thing about fathering, but IMO a father's role is to provide a nurturing environment for the mother of his children, which is a very non-negligible task considering how the economy has adjusted for two incomes rather than one.
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01:10 PM on 07/22/2012
Some women can have it all, but not necessarily at the same time.
11:34 AM on 07/22/2012
Sucess in life doesn't depend on the activities we take, the grades or titles we accumulate. True success is the satisfaction of a life well lived.
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05:01 PM on 07/22/2012
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withonor
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01:34 AM on 07/22/2012
The deeper issue here is that people are basing their measure of success on others opinions. If you constantly need external, non-involved, support, you may never be happy. Unfortunately, because of biology, if you want to be a parent and you are a woman, you have to take a ~year off from yourself to carry each child you have.

In a world where the bottom line is so important, you're going to lose out to a man who won't have that hurdle. I'm saying this in brutal honesty. Do I agree with the world we have? No. Unless the private sector grows a heart and starts caring about people, nothing will change. And considering the conservative white male CEO pool, I don't see it changing soon.
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Cassandra45
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03:52 PM on 07/22/2012
"Unless the private sector grows a heart and starts caring about people, nothing will change." Well said! And "people", not just mothers or fathers. I have no problem with new parents getting time off to bond with their babies, but when my parents die and I'm expected to be back in the office the day after the funeral, you can bet I'm going to be angry. But that's America, folks - the Almighty Dollar is all that matters. We're lucky to get a week's vacation after a year on the new job, aren't we?
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SmileAndActNice
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11:04 PM on 07/23/2012
You forget something wit.

Surrogates only cost 20K. Successful women can outsource gestation.
11:39 PM on 07/21/2012
Personally, I don't know why Marissa Mayer is creating all these conversations. She is one woman, and someone that most of us can't compare ourselves to. But personally, it will be interesting to see if motherhood is as easy as she makes it sound because it isn't. I also do not agree that motherhood or lack of measures any one woman's success, but it is certainly harder to juggle everything when you have a child who relies on you 24/7 and you want to be involved with their upbringing when you have a lot of responsibilities at work. We are all successful, regardless of being a mother or not, but we have to be happy with where we are in life. To me, that is the definition of success, and mothers aren't always the happy ones.
12:54 AM on 07/22/2012
Very good comments, much along my thoughts. Motherhood/parenting is not normally easy in the least that is if you care about your children. I say normally because parenting can be easy if you abdicate the role as a parent. I see biological parents abdicate their roles as parents all the time, more for males then females. Reasons for abdication are many but basically boil down to the parents just do not really care about the children and are selfish to satisfy their own desires. The most common reason I believe most folks would suggest first of those found with population in the lower social economic groups in our society. But there are plenty in the more affluent social economic groups. I was pretty shocked to see how few parents really cared about their children who attended prep school and how little involvement the parents had in their childrens lives.

So what is success in life, that is the real question.

How do you measure it? Money is the obvious for most at the expense of most all else in life. Why do marry? Why do we have children? What kind of people do you keep around you? Do you help other people? Are you compassionate to others less fortunate? Are you happy with your life? Do you feel content, loved and safe?
09:36 PM on 07/21/2012
I am a mother. Motherhood is great. It also is the most challenging job I've ever had. True success is not measured by whether or not you have kids. It is whether or not you have led a life to be proud of, treated others with respect, worked hard and will leave something behind of value for future generations. Your legacy can be happy kids. It can also be a legacy of intellectual achievement, or perhaps work towards enviromental, political or other causes... Really, the possibilities are limited only by your abilities and imagination. Motherhood is one of many worthy life choices on the road to a happy, ie successful, life.
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ILoveGreatDanes
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04:57 AM on 07/22/2012
So true, silver. I appreciate your insight and wisdom. Some mothers have an attitude of superiority toward women who do not have children. We can all contribute to this world in our own way. I choose to contribute, not through children, but via charitable causes and political activism. Being a success is measured in how we give back. F & F.
06:25 PM on 07/21/2012
Some modern scientific theorists have given in to the notion that as the nurturer, a woman’s place is in the house because doing male-oriented studies would somehow compromise her ability to become a viable child bearer. Their claim was that God made women man’s helper not his competitor. Marissa Mayer is bucking the stereotype of what we were taught it meant to be a woman. To read more about the evolution of modern women go to: http://www.thegreaterbooks.com/product_info.php/cPath/21_26/products_id/32
10:40 AM on 07/22/2012
I don't think she's bucking any stereotypes at all. She's pretty. Women can also get ahead on their looks, old story.
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SmileAndActNice
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11:29 PM on 07/23/2012
We were hunter gathers long before we were farmers and we were hunter gathers many many times longer than we were farmers. The evolutionary stamp of gathering is far deeper than the impact of agriculture.

Women went out to gather every day. They walked great distances and carried heavy loads. They gathered food, firewood, and water. They had no fridges or ways to preserve food so every day they went out anew. Hunting was unreliable, but gathering always brought food in. So gathering was the cautious, sure and certain thing. The fallback that kept the family fed if the hunt failed.

While they gathered their hands were full, there were no strollers and the wilds were dangerous for young children because the predator that avoids the goat will take the kid. So their kids were safely back at the camp being watched by others.

Some of those others were men.

In studies of modern hunter gatherers new fathers were found to spend about 15 hours a week holding their infants while Mom was out gathering or doing other things. Furthermore, while the community would send out a hunting party every day, an individual man didn't go out every time necessary. In the camp watched one guy went out hunting every day, another man never hunted, and everyone else hunted a few times a week.

The guy who never hunted spent most of his time telling stories to the tribes's children.
06:19 PM on 07/21/2012
"Success" is relative to ONE'S OWN INTENTION.
When we achieve/live what we set out/intend to do, we feel "successful" - regardless of someone else's opinion of us.
I don't have any children, I don't want to have any children - and, I have never ever felt "unsuccessful" because of it. Never felt there was "something lacking" in me. Never felt "unfulfilled" because of it.
Never felt I was "missing out" on "something".
Never felt "sub-standard" because of my lack of intention and desire for children/parenthood.
However, I have mega admiration for those who do choose parenthood because I think that being a parent has to be one of THE toughest (and most thankless) roles someone can choose.
But "successful/unsuccessful" because of having/not having, children??
I don't think that's THUH QUESTION to ask yourselves.
Instead, ask yourself " do I GENUINELY, REALLY WANT to have children" ??
If your answer is YES, you'll have your children and feel "successful".
If your answer is NO, and you have children, then you'll probably always feel "unsuccessful".
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smeeeee
Now take your nice red pill
04:25 PM on 07/21/2012
Comparing yourself to the CEO of Google (male or female, pregnant or not) is like comparing yourself to, say, Angelina Jolie. Of course it will lead to discontent. And nobody gets it all. Life is lamentably imperfect.
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Debbie Shoemaker
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02:24 PM on 07/21/2012
As a mother of 2, I can honestly say the decision to have children needs to be seriously considered by any woman. Motherhood is a 24/7 job on it's own and there is no manual. A woman has to be willing to put herself on the back burner for a while when the kids are younger. It should never be a decision made by society/religion/convention. While children are funny and cute, it is vital that they are raised in a loving environment. I can personally say that becoming pregnant and giving birth did not change my basic personality, it changed my responsibilities but I am not a better/worse person by becoming a mother.
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SmileAndActNice
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11:06 PM on 07/23/2012
My nannies were much more loving than my parents.

Some people *should* outsource the raising. Let them do something they want and pay people who actually like kids to do the raising.
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Debbie Shoemaker
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01:10 PM on 07/24/2012
That is why I said women should have children when they know they are ready and want the children.  Just having the ability to breed does not mean people should.  I'm glad you had loving adults in your life, sorry it wasn't your parents but for too many children, they have to look elsewhere for the love and encouragement their "breeders" cannot or willnot provide.