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ABC/Univision: Here Are Five Ways to Turn Off Latinos

Posted: 05/09/2012 1:25 am

ABC and Univision teaming up to create an English language cable channel aimed at Latinos is a brilliant idea. They just need to be careful -- very careful.

There are too many tired clichés the two networks could succumb to while building programming for my generation. And, that would be a shame.

Should they do it right, however, they can successfully target not only the large English speaking Latino population but also the young Latino population. After all, 41 percent of millennials are bilingual and we also happen to be the fastest growing minority in the country.

We are a powerful audience. With that in mind, here are five things ABC/Univision should NOT do as they role out the network as well as five things they absolutely should do:

Don't:

  1. Don't make cartoons of us. Enough of the stereotypical families on television. We don't all live with every member of our extended family in a brownstone in Queens (ie Ugly Betty). We just don't. Please keep this in mind when building your "lifestyle" programing.

  2. The traditional Latin family is out. My parents never pressured me to marry, have children and have the complete Catholic-Latin family. Remember, we millennials (especially women) were raised to value independence.

  3. Assume immigration is the only legislation we care about. Yes, I realize you stated in the press release you would also include coverage on the economy, education, foreign policy, etc. Don't let the immigration debate take over the whole agenda--keep your promise!

  4. Forget that our families are from all over Latin America--not just Mexico, Dominican Republic, or Cuba. I hope to see a variety in news reporting from the ENTIRE region. Important news is being made all over the Americas--report it.

  5. Presume we watch cheesy television. Telenovelas aren't necessarily for us--we aren't our parents! We also can't take the weather girls seriously--I'm speaking directly to you Univision. Enough of this please.

Do:

  1. Be sensitive of our dual-heritage. We are constantly balancing our two worlds. It's nice to know we aren't alone. Programs reflecting this unique struggle would speak to the millions of us that go back and forth between our Latin and American identities.

  2. Know that we are optimistic! We saw our parents work their tails off and are encouraged about our future. Don't take it from me; take it from the Pew Research Center. Optimism is important.

  3. Give us real role models to watch. Enough of the Jennifer Lopez and Eva Longoria as examples of success. We can't all be movie stars. Programming needs to feature hardworking, influential Latinos (not just actors!).

  4. Provide balanced political coverage. The notion that one party or another owns the Hispanic vote is ridiculous. Conservative Latinos exist and it would be nice to see both sides see get equal coverage on the new network.

  5. Always be mindful of our diversity. Many Latinos in the United States are Mexican, but others are from Central America, South America and the Caribbean. Don't treat us as a homogenous group when building your programming and hiring hosts.

This new venture is a watershed moment for Latinos--especially for millennials who make up the majority of the population (the average of a Latino living in the United States is 27 years old). So, don't blow it ABC/Univision--you have a captive audience and we can't wait to see what creative programming you have in store for us.

 

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07:27 PM on 05/22/2012
Thank you! Where have you been all my life?
12:49 PM on 05/10/2012
However they chose to direct their programing it is impossible to make everyone happy simply because it is too difficult to truly reflect the dynamism of the "latino identity". The demographic term homogenizes groups of people with differing experiences. For example someone with that comes from a first generation immigrant family has a different experience than some one whose family has been here for generations. The former might identity with their heritage to a higher degree than the latter. Then there are individuals who are undocumented who live a more complicated experience altogether.

Basically, if you produce a show that portrays a working class family is an a barrio and dealing with gangs, you will be criticized for stereotyping, if you produce a show where the family portrayed is middle or upper class, it will be panned as unrealistic.

It is a target that no network executive can hit because they couldn't possibly identify with every single experience.
01:37 AM on 05/11/2012
They can do it if they show a variety of people and stories. English language news features different kinds of white people, rich and poor, rural and urban, young and old, so why can't this channel do the same thing?
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PedroMoreno
12:20 PM on 05/10/2012
Good ideas. And also don't forget that Americans of Hispanic descent have more similarities than differences with the rest of Americans. So, don't try to make people different, just to find your niche market.
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Rob Paterson1
02:19 AM on 05/10/2012
TELEVISA wins again who owns univision.
01:32 AM on 05/10/2012
Also:

Latino/hispanic is a cultural/heritage thing, not a race.
There is more than Cubans, Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. More than Miami, LA and (to a lesser extent) NYC.
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Lenin Fierro
10:54 PM on 05/09/2012
Well stated and I hope they take this articles recommendations seriously. I do hate when people only think that only Mexican & Puerto Rican's are the only Latinos or if I here some dummy say "i didn't know you speak Mexican.
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SuperMex
12:13 PM on 05/10/2012
Lenin Fierro, there is no reason to hate when people think that American Latinos are only of Mexican, Puerto Rican or Cuban ancestry. It kind of breaks down this way: 70% Mexican, 10% Puerto Rican, 5% Cuban and 2% each for Dominican and Salvadorian. The balance is a potpourri of Latinos.

Look I have some deep Tejano roots in the Lone Star state. I have seen, probably like yourself the contributions that Latino immigrants have made to our Great Nation. Here in Texas Latinos (40% of the population) have been the driving force in making Texas the economic power house that it is today and that no other state can match, not even California.

Here is my beef in a nut shell: American folks of Mexican ancestry are the primary source of income for Latino TV in the USA. Yet the jobs created are taken by Miami residents who in turn do very little to support Mexican American and Puerto Rican causes. Causes like the Dream Act, Sotomayor and Immigration Reform.

To be fair there many Cuban Americans that embrace other Latino causes like Rosario Dawson, Eva Mendez, Tony Plana, Gloria and Emilio Estefan and a History professor that I met the other day who is studying the relationship between Cuba and Texas back in the day (1500's & forward).

Even though I have a beef I still love you.
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Alitoo
02:28 PM on 05/10/2012
Yes, by all means emphasize that Latinos are "special", i.e. don't have to follow the law, and need amnesty because there are so many of them here illegally. It's a shame that so many parents chose to bring their kids here illegally, but until the laws are enforced and illegal immigration basically ended, there is no way to legalize the kids without also putting them on track to legalizing the parents and thereby encouraging yet more illegal immigration. We learned from the 1986 amnesty: amnesty breeds amnesty.
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Lenin Fierro
07:33 AM on 06/16/2012
SuperMex I think you looked a little to deep into my comment. I have no beef with any Latinos past or present contributions to this nation. I like to think that my 10 yrs of military service is my contribution but all I'm saying is that I don't like when I'm lumped in a either a Mexican or Puerto Rican sandwich. My comment was directed toward many ignorant people that have narrow view about this countries rich immigrant past present and future. No beef here and still love any Latino no matter what.
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Black Democrat
10:00 PM on 05/09/2012
This is just another way to prevent Hispanics from assimilating and becoming more like Americans. Learn English.
10:28 PM on 05/09/2012
Um the network would be in English.
01:09 AM on 05/10/2012
The channel will be in English. Learn how to read.
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Black Democrat
01:17 AM on 05/12/2012
Did not say the channel was not in English. In English not to become too much a American.

"The growing population of illegal Mexican immigrants in southern California provides an opportunity to examine the cultural identity of these people. Without any real motivation to assimilate, these people are more likely to retain their own national identity, language, and allegiance rather than adopting the American lifestyle. This could lead to areas like Southern California to become increasingly Chicano until the general population of Chicanos feels no responsibility to this country and this country’s leaders and institutions, only to other Hispanics and Hispanic culture without regard to Anglo influence. Illegal immigration must be halted and the legal immigrants must accept their responsibilities as American citizens. The Hispanic leaders must also teach these Mexicanos to abide bys American laws and to respect the American system. This responsibility involves deterring illegal immigrants. They do not need to abandon their heritage; they only need a respect for and an understanding of America."

http://uwacadweb.uwyo.edu/English2035students/immigration/assimilation.htm
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Dolmance
09:23 PM on 05/09/2012
Whatever it is, you can be sure it'll knock ten points off your IQ if you watch it too much.
07:50 PM on 05/10/2012
Just like Hee Haw knocked 100 points off yours.
10:31 PM on 05/10/2012
HAhaha, F&F!
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Dolmance
10:43 PM on 05/10/2012
What's Hee Haw?
07:40 PM on 05/09/2012
Yes, Latinos come from all over Latin America the majority are from Mexico. Mexicans are the only Latinos who live in all 50 states and are the largest Hispanic group in 40 states, including all of the states in the West and the Midwest. They are even the biggest Hispanic group in two northeastern states: Maine and Delaware.

Puerto Ricans are 9% of Latinos and Cubans are 4%. Dominicans are less than 1%.

If this new station is headquartered in Los Angeles, it will be a success. If it's in New York, it will flop.

http://2010.census.gov/news/releases/operations/cb11-cn146.html
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Jonathan Munoz
2 things you can't argue with: crazy and stupid
09:28 PM on 05/09/2012
Miami is the best place, because Univision already has a studio there that the two companies can use for programming.

Los Angeles and New York are already overcrowded with HQ of companies and movie studios, and besides really L.A. and NY that's so predictable.
10:50 PM on 05/09/2012
Miami thinks they are representaive of most Hispancs, but they're not. I don't want to see an English language version of Univision.
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Rob Paterson1
02:18 AM on 05/10/2012
yes, L.A will be the best place for production.
03:40 AM on 05/10/2012
I just read that the station will be based in Miami. Same old thing. It will probably have a Caribbean emphasis. Oh well...

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2012/05/abc-news-teaming-univision-cable-news-network/51983/#
12:52 PM on 05/10/2012
I know it won't happen, but I'd prefer to base it in the SF Bay Area. Although it does have more Mexicans than, say Miami or New York, the numbers are not as overwhelming as LA. There's a good mix that is not overwhelming or as "in-your-face". Outside of Mexicans, Cubans and Puerto Ricans as you'd expect, there's also lots of Argentinians, Chileans, and finally plenty of Peruvians, Salvadorians, Bolivians, Venezuelans, etcetera, all those "forgotten tribes" of the hispanic media market in the US that really need to be reached.

In addition, there's excellent relationships between hispanics and non-hispanics (paramount for success and to avoid a constant "us-versus-them" siege mentality during the broadcasts), and plenty of diversity in socioeconomic conditions, political views and professions within the hispanic population, from blue-collar to professional to Napa Valley rich retirees.

If any region can show the world a grown up, hispanic and happily blended middle class population, I think it's the Bay Area.
03:42 PM on 05/09/2012
Awful lot of money to be made just doing what tv always does. I doubt millenial tastes will get more than an hour or so per week. Dumb sitcoms and variety shows make money.
02:08 PM on 05/09/2012
Thanks for the article. I really don't know what to think about this joint venture.

What these networks should ask themselves is: What attracts people? Asking themselves "What attract Latinos" is in my humble opinion, a bad idea. UNIVISION leave a lot to be desired. What show do they have that could attract a Spanish speaking audience? It seems like their answer is always news from everywhere and telenovelas.

If a people (in this case people living in the US) were to want something it would be guidance towards the next step (What do I do next?) Programs that educate and guide people are a valuable asset. This is something that UNIVISION sorely lacks. They prefer to cater to a lower level that just wants to be tear jerked and live the moment without any thought of the future.

From the programming that I've seen on UNIVISION, I don't see much vision or effort on their part. Just as long as the ratings are up and the audience can be kept enthralled with telenovelas and futbol games (soccer) they'll keep doing the same thing. If ABC follows this strategy I don;t see how this joint effort will differentiate itself to attract it target demographic.

PS: I don't mean to say that futbol or telenovelas are bad in general, just when people end up being obsessed with them instead of doing something that could potentially help them in their self improvement. Regards
10:38 AM on 05/10/2012
I agree with you right now Univision only caters to the newly arrived hispanic that doesn't speak English and is used to the same old programming of telenovelas and they only care about Mexicans.
01:17 PM on 05/10/2012
Hispanic TV in the US is a joke. I hate all sports on TV, even soccer. There's no worst way to waste your time and not learn anything in front of a screen than by watching sports (not a hispanic-specific thing). I played soccer when I was a kid in Mexico and playing it is fun, but watching it is torture.

My grandparents loved Telenovelas. Mom budgeted herself to exactly one (she'd just pick the most popular and follow that), Dad didn't watch any of them. So I grew up aware of them and watching some (or lots, depending on who was taking care of me that day), but I don't watch them today.

The news are a joke. Slanted, superficially moronic and obsessed with a single topic or two, and with how pretty X or Y actor/actress is or who offended who. So I just fire up Milenio TV on the internet when I want to watch Mexican news. I do wish there was a good source of Latin American news overall, since Milenio is pretty focused to Mexico.

So other than the occasional music video, there's nothing for me on the current lineup.

I read a whole lot instead. Which compounds the problem because it only makes it more obvious how brain-dead the newscasters are. :-)

BTW I'm first generation, born and raised in Mexico, so even for many "new arrivals" this doesn't seem to be working.
11:10 AM on 05/11/2012
Im a first generation Cuban born and raised and its also not working for me.
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SuperMex
12:10 PM on 05/09/2012
This network will quickly become irrelevant if it is based in the most anti-Latino city in the country, Miami, Florida.

Talk about a city speaking with a fork tongue. The city leaders and residents of Miami will say to "other" Latinos what they want to hear then will turn around and do the exact opposite of what they said.

ABC/Univision if you want a quick demise base your programing in South Florida.

The Obama years have shown us a lot! Both good and bad. In this case it's been bad.
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Maggie Urrely
When we label we segregate
05:45 PM on 05/09/2012
Politicians promising something to the people and then doing a total 360 is just that...politics. And how is Miami anti-Latino? There are people from all over Latin America! Yes, all over including Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatemala Venezuela, Colombia, Brazil etc....it's not full of rich elite Cuban exiles that many want you to believe. Some are rich some are poor but they are in every corner in Miami from all walks of Latin America....
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Jonathan Munoz
2 things you can't argue with: crazy and stupid
09:23 PM on 05/09/2012
im from Miami, WTF are you talking about?

This channel will be cable and will be about Latinos in the entire country. just because its based in Miami doesn't mean anyone in Miami will have a say in what programming is put on?
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SuperMex
10:21 PM on 05/09/2012
Miami "residents" get the jobs created by Chicanos/Mexican Americans then the Miami residents turn around and give Chicanos/Mexican American and other Latinos the screws. Go figure.
10:47 AM on 05/09/2012
What you are saying is mostly true, however you miss the mark on a couple of items for sure. Number one, Mexican Americans male up about 70-80 % of the Latino population in America, so please do not be dismissive about that, which leads to point two. As a Mexican American, immigration is very important to me as is the Dream Act. I wish the rest of the country would wise up and understand how crucial this is to our economy immediately and going forward. Having immigrants doing work most Americans do not desire plus educating their children to do higher level work down the road will enrich us all. These two issues are attached at the hip as they should be, and they should be embraced by all who believe we are a nation of immigrants as well as a nation of compassionate people.
01:03 AM on 05/11/2012
America became great without mexicans and is now in decline as more arrive. Mexico has ALWAY been a undesireable cesspool. please explain how and why millions of primitive, uneducated, unskilled, non-english speaking, untalented Mexican peasants are good for this country.

There's a clear reason why mexico is so willing to rid itself of those people.
11:54 AM on 05/11/2012
Let this Mexican help increase your talent.

The oldest, most transparent supremacist fallacy is always of the form,

We, (insert irrelevant self-identificator) were doing amazing until (insert irrelevant perceived inferior self-identificator) did (insert offending action), because they (insert all prejudices we've been aching to get off our chest since before we came up with the sentence).

It's amazing to me it's still popular in all extremists of all obsessions, particularly as it always shows a clear lack of education, or an education badly given or not understood.

It's also pretty much always false, because of "Post Hoc ergo Propter Hoc" ("after this therefore because of this") being a fallacy. But those using it usually aren't educated enough to know it makes them sound less than smart so they use it gladly.

I think it's popular because, having little else to hang on to in crisis, they must mistrust and hate the "other" (and there's always a convenient one handy). And also because extremes are intellectually unsustainable otherwise.

Mexico & US have been good friends for at least 70 years, and as recently as 2005 Mexico sent troops, money, equipment and food to save lives during Katrina (Mexican troops have become highly specialized on search&rescue). Previous hatreds come from Elizabeth vs Phillip and the black legend transplanted to Mexico to obtain popular support for sins in 1848 and 1913-1915. But we're a lot more similar than not today in everything that matters.
10:37 AM on 05/09/2012
Spot on, Ms Pitts! Thank you!
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ugly american
"I drank what?"- Last words of Socrates
08:05 AM on 05/09/2012
An internationalist TV network which will equally represent the views of several nations inside one where international presence has caused a great deal of contention? Nah...
But, it's their money. Let them knock themselves out! They'll learn soon enough.
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Illegitimi Non Carborundum
11:39 AM on 05/09/2012
As they say in investing circles - "the market knows". I think this is a glimpse into the millennial mentality - a little arrogant, presumptuous, entitled and prescriptive.

The market will support what the market will support - just ask Oprah
07:48 PM on 05/09/2012
The market will support this if they actually reflect the Latino demographic. If this is based in NYC or Miami, it won't do well.