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Bryan Fischer, Tony Perkins, and the Hate Agenda

Posted: 11/24/10 11:20 AM ET

Last week, the American Family Association's Bryan Fischer caused a tidal wave of outrage when he asserted that Americans have "feminized the Medal of Honor" and asked, "When are we going to start awarding the Medal of Honor once again for soldiers who kill people and break things so our families can sleep safely at night?"

Fischer, on his AFA-sponsored radio show and blog, often makes comments that would be ridiculous if they weren't so offensive. He routinely directs his hate-filled rants at gay people, Muslims, and even select members of the animal kingdom. He last caused a minor splash on the Internet when he declared an intifada on grizzly bears. He has said that the fire fighters who stood and let a house burn down earlier this year did "the Christian thing." He has said multiple times that "gay sex is a form of domestic terrorism." He repeatedly says that the building of new mosques should be banned in the U.S.

It is worth remembering that despite his clear extremism, Fischer is not an outcast. In fact, he has been embraced not only by the religious right, but by the mainstream GOP. This spring, Fischer rubbed elbows with GOP presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee, Michele Bachmann, and Mike Pence at the Family Research Council's "Values Voter Summit." He frequently has right-wing politicians as guests on his show, including Tea Party kingmaker Sen. Jim DeMint.

Fischer's prioritization of a small set of inflexibly extreme views over basic human decency is disturbing. But it's not, unfortunately, unique. In fact, the Family Research Council's Tony Perkins, a much higher-profile figure than Fischer, has repeatedly insulted servicemembers in his quest to keep gays and lesbians from serving in the military. Last week, Perkins said that if Don't Ask Don't Tell were repealed so many servicemembers would leave the army that the country would have to reinstate the draft. (Perkins, as it happens, presented a similar hypothesis to a Army Sgt. Benjamin Ratliff in June. Ratliff, who isn't exactly a proponent of gay rights, insisted that Perkins was wrong: "Even though I disagree with [DADT repeal] strongly, I love my country more.") At this year's Values Voter Summit, Perkins said of militaries that allow gays and lesbians to serve, "they're the ones that participate in parades, they don't fight wars to keep the nation and the world free"-- thereby belittling the contributions of at least seven allied countries who currently have troops in Afghanistan.

Both the American Family Association and the Family Research Council were recently added to the Southern Poverty Law Center's list of "anti-gay hate groups." SPLC explained that groups added to the list are there not because of religious beliefs ("Viewing homosexuality as unbiblical does not qualify organizations for listing as hate groups") but because of "their propagation of known falsehoods" about LGBT people.

Bryan Fischer is extreme, even by extremist standards, but his place among the ranks of the "mainstream" Right is telling. As I said when he attended the Values Voter Summit, those who hobnob with him "don't necessarily endorse [his] propaganda--but they do acknowledge its credibility." People like Fischer and Perkins have been allowed to be thought leaders on the Right despite the often single-minded direction of their thought.

Fischer's latest anti-military rant and Perkin's steady stream of digs at members of the armed forces should be a reminder of that. There is a difference between honest debate and hateful propaganda. The first step toward debate is acknowledging the basic humanity of others. Bryan Fischer's insensitive and inhumane rant laid bare his real priorities. And it should give serious pause to any political figure who agrees to be seen with him.

 

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08:19 AM on 12/29/2010
The lack of moderation and empathy in the voices on the right is an extremely disturbing trend and does not bode well for us as a Country. The right needs to clean its house and reject these people and engage in a serious discussion of the direction in which this Country is headed.

The right needs to engage in some fresh thought and not simply regurgitate thirty-year-old arguments and economic theories. There are many principled intellectual positions that one can take in opposition to President Obama from either the left or right and this nation could really use such a dialogue. As opposed to having a serious dialogue all we seem to be presented with are attention grabbing narcissistic small thinkers. Being the loud boorish and offensive may get you attention but it does not advance debate. Intellectual depth is not measured by the volume in which you state your words but by the substance of the words that you state.

Where are the adults on the right? Never thought I would miss William Buckley!
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Gay Pagan Man, Living Happily With Husband
02:48 PM on 12/29/2010
F&F for truth. Some of the right wingers that post on here are some of the most hard-hearted, mean-spirited people I have seen in some time. Sadly I think that is the direction the right in this country is taking because none of these people think that homelessness, etc. could EVER happen to them. Karma may yet have some interesting lessons in store for them.
02:35 AM on 11/28/2010
Aw, aren't Christians such loving people?
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Justin Gibson
09:07 PM on 11/26/2010
Bryan Fischer is one of the most anti-American people today, even worse than Rush and Beck.
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sprtakis69
Shouldn't all people be entitled to Equal rights?
01:32 AM on 11/27/2010
I'd say we have a 3way tie!
Jay Haney
My nuclear family imploded when I was 18. I've bee
02:26 PM on 11/25/2010
Here's a question for these folks, who, with too few exceptions, are chickenhawks who never saw a day on the line (no, I haven't either, but I at least have the good sense to let the military run itself): what are you going to do when you finally run into a trooper you insulted with intent to kill? What I've seen of most military types tells me that's as likely as getting struck by lightning...twice. Still, push hard and long enough on a certain section of people, you lose the right to be surprised when the consequences blow up in your face. Something they may want to think about...
10:33 AM on 11/25/2010
The media that treats these theocratic thugs as reasonable people worthy of talking to are doing a great disservice to America. A president who negotiates away women's rights with these pigs to pass his for-profit health care bill is an enabler at best. There can be no compromise with theocracy.
09:12 AM on 11/25/2010
Fischer is not even close to being a real Christian, nor are his followers, or should the word be "fans"?
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Jeffrey Marks
08:20 AM on 11/25/2010
Reporters need to start asking candidates why they are in contact with hate groups, and then play their answers on TV. They can be used as campaign fodder, where they either praise the group or denounce the group's policies.
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lisakaz2
Da ministero dell'interno di Snark.
11:33 PM on 11/24/2010
Wonder what David Vitter has said about this, among others...
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
10:57 PM on 11/24/2010
I hope every Christian politician is asked by reporters in the next election to denounce these extremists, and those that don't are described by the media as being tied to extremism, and unfit to even run for office, let alone get elected.
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11:16 PM on 11/24/2010
Great idea. Don't hold....et cetera
09:13 PM on 11/24/2010
This is actually about whether people attracted to one another sexually should be out in the field together. I was a marine infantryman in Vietnam, and if we had women out there on those long operations, esp. during the monsoon season, there would have been sexual activity and rivalries and distraction and a weakening of psychological cohesion, which was important for the kind of marathon endurance ordeals that these operations sometimes became.
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
11:01 PM on 11/24/2010
Of course, similar sort of theories were advanced to keep Blacks out of the military.
 
BTW, it is highly likely that you did serve with gay men, and likely had one in your unit.
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11:17 PM on 11/24/2010
May I never meet your two fans in a dark alley.
sean from boise
Warning! There's some really bad tea going around.
08:24 PM on 11/24/2010
Here is what the Dems do. Spend time discrediting Fischer and build up a fear base against him and then tie the Reblicants to him. It seems to me that the Repubs. did it to Obama with Jeremiah Wright. Of course, the Dems have more class than the GOP does so they wouldn't do that.
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
09:07 PM on 12/28/2010
The republicans are already tied to Fischer...
07:17 PM on 11/24/2010
Of course the AFA is a bunch of bullies. After all, they were the bullies that got Mighty Mouse cancelled back in the 1980s. Doesn't that say it all?
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okami
former US Marine, retired police. disabled.
04:57 AM on 11/25/2010
FF

you deserve it.

FOR THE MEMORY OF MIGHTY MOUSE!!
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dnags23
06:26 PM on 11/24/2010
Bryan Fischer is a right-wing fear and hate mongerer (sp?) who hides behind the guise of Christian. I'm a Christian (and an active duty servicemember too) and I think their time as Christians would be better spent focusing on the fundamentals and Good News of the Bible and Christ's teachings, instead of harping on these social non-issues.

As a Christian, I find Fischer's brand of hate and fear mongering distasteful. As a servicemember, I take issue with him commenting on things about the military (like DADT), when he himself never served in the military. So, on what are you basing your opinion on, Mr. Fisher?

I keep thinking about a line from the movie "The American President" -- " How do you have patience for people who claim they love America, but clearly can't stand Americans?"
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lisakaz2
Da ministero dell'interno di Snark.
07:51 PM on 11/24/2010
Don't service members already interact with various friendlies that allow openly g-y service? Is this really a big deal anymore?
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
11:07 PM on 11/24/2010
Not only serve with, seeing as the Canadian military allows openly gay soldiers (and women in combat roles) and US troops are occasionally placed under Canadian command, they might even have taken orders from an openly gay officer.
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
09:09 PM on 12/28/2010
Thank you ....very well-said..
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LLeGrande
A Proud Liberal Democrat.
06:15 PM on 11/24/2010
I never cease to be amazed at the hate propogated by Christians.
sean from boise
Warning! There's some really bad tea going around.
08:28 PM on 11/24/2010
please know that I am a Christian and I among millions of people work tirelessly to spread peace and unity. I and my friends do all that we can to make the world a better place. Would you feel comfortable about changing your statement to "propogated by Right-Wing, conservative Christians"? Saying all Christians are hateful is akin to the right-wing lumping all Muslims together.
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Olethea
Life may be sweeter for this- I don't know.
09:08 PM on 11/24/2010
Then perhaps you should be more vocal about whether these public figures support or suppress your POV.

These are the political folks speaking for you, and you roll over for them every time. So don't blame the public for reacting to the issues. Blame yourself for voting for them.
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lisakaz2
Da ministero dell'interno di Snark.
11:27 PM on 11/24/2010
Oleatha makes a valid point. Like it or not, many of these extremist positions are presented like the speak for Christianity as a whole. It's funny how they shout for moderate Muslims to denounce terrorism but moderate Christians don't call them out.
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okami
former US Marine, retired police. disabled.
05:04 AM on 11/25/2010
not all Christians, LLeGrande, but certain groups of them.

there do exist people who really are Christian, insofar as they can. they are actually good in very many ways and attempt to follow the teachings of Jesus.

perhaps their only failing is not being vocal enough against the extremists.

homophobia comes from the Old Testament and the post-Gospel works. this is one of the indicators of the CINO: Christian In Name Only. they derive their talking points from the Old Testament and post-Gospel books, never paying attention to anything Jesus taught. the name 'Jesus' becomes a soundbite and nothing more.

but there are Christians who don't buy into the homophobia thing, let alone other right-wing extremist views.

oh, and by the way, although i was raised in the Chruch of Christ, I'm not Christian, myself. my religion is my own. it'was born with me, and it'll die with me.

i don't need to be part of a herd.
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Jim Neal
Candidate US Senate 2008 (D-NC).
06:06 PM on 11/24/2010
The Tony Perkins' and Bryan Fischer's of the world, coupled with the second-class civil rights denied to gay people by their government, are not without consequences. The finding of a report on hate crimes released by the SPLC (see splc.org) is excerpted below:

"The SPLC’s analysis of 14 years of hate crime data found that homosexuals, or those perceived to be gay, are more than twice as likely to be attacked in a violent hate crime as Jews or blacks; more than four times as likely as Muslims; and 14 times as likely as Latinos. The findings are based on FBI hate crime statistics from 1995 to 2008, the period for which there is complete data. The basic pattern also holds true in individual years."

There are others who share culpability: all who remain quiet and do not support your children, relatives, friends, neighbors and others stigmatized. That cuts across a broad swath of America.

That's a sad commentary.
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lisakaz2
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07:52 PM on 11/24/2010
Thanks for the quote. I hadn't realized that was the pecking order for such crimes.
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
09:30 PM on 12/28/2010
It would not surprise me if Perkins & Fisher were a secret couple... inflicting their bigotry on the gay community....that nasty bit has been done before, eh??? Ted Haggard?? et al- blah- blah
Well.... the LGBT community has a LOT of straight friends who care about them....! We will throw back the curtain of the hypocrite haters, and let everyone see who those hypocrites really are..!