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Mitt's Moochers: The Dangerous Lie His Funders Love to Hear

Posted: 09/19/2012 12:09 pm

Mitt Romney got some unwanted attention early this year when he flatly stated, "I'm not concerned about the very poor." When challenged on this remark he assured Americans that the safety net for the very poor was a given, safe from any budget and tax code tinkering in Washington. This was a sinister explanation since Romney's tax and spending plan -- or as much of it as can be deciphered -- calls for further tax cuts for the wealthy at the expense of social services that he claimed were safe.

Now, we see that it's not just the "very poor" who don't merit Romney's "concern." At the now-infamous $50,000-a-plate fundraiser in Florida, Romney wrote off the concerns of the 47 percent of Americans who don't owe federal income taxes, saying that half of Americans are "dependent on government," "believe that they are the victims," and have the gall to "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

That 47 percent includes families and individuals with low incomes -- about 23 percent of taxpayers, according to the Tax Policy Center. It also includes those for whom tax credits for children and working families have eliminated tax burdens -- about 7 percent. It also includes seniors who have left the workforce -- about 10 percent. Over half of the 47 percent pay federal payroll taxes. All are subject to state and local taxes, many of which, like sales taxes, are more regressive than federal taxes. (And if we ever see more Romney tax returns, we may find some years when the Romney's were in that entitled 47 percent.)

As conservative writer Reihan Salam points out in the National Review, policies like the Child Tax Credit and the Earned Income Tax Credit -- responsible for much of this tax relief for working families -- were conservative ideas meant to reduce the "dependency" that Romney so reviles, by "encourag[ing] people get on the first rungs of the jobs ladder, and to become less dependent over time."

Romney was telling the well-heeled guests at this fundraising dinner that these people -- middle-class parents, low-income workers, the unemployed, the elderly -- aren't interested in working hard despite the fact that most of them report to the IRS each year that they work quite a lot. This isn't just tin-eared politics. Like Romney's comments on the "very poor," it represents a profound misunderstanding of how Americans' lives work and how his policies would affect those lives.

But even talking about the "47 percent versus the 53 percent" belies the fact that nobody in America is free from at least some government "dependency." We all rely on roads, hospitals, schools, firefighters, police officers, and our military -- even Mitt Romney and his $50,000-a-plate friends. Romney himself has relied on the government's safety net for businesses, securing a federal bailout for Bain & Company. Nobody succeeds without some help from a stable, functional government. That's what President Obama was saying when his "you didn't build that" comments were taken out of context.

Romney was clearly telling his funders a fantasy story that they love to hear. But that story is a lie, and we shouldn't accept it from someone who could become a president representing 100 percent of the American people.

 

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sonoflars
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional
07:31 AM on 09/21/2012
Romney may well fall into the group that pays no income taxe. He won't release his tax returns so we don't know if he paid any taxes and if the Ryan plan with its tax free dividends provision were to go into effect, mitt wouldn't have to pay taxes.
12:13 PM on 09/20/2012
The philosophy is simple. Per capita spending is about $20,000/yr. for all forms of government. If you are paying less than $20,000/yr. in all forms of taxes then you are mooching off somebody who does.

Using percentage-based arguments regarding fair share of tax burdens is a straw man for the simple minded . We don't measure the government services we receive in percentages, so measuring the payment for those services cannot be measured in percentages for math to make any sense.

A person who pays $500,000/yr in federal taxes isn't entitled to a larger percentage of the roads he drives on, or faster mail service, or get his food inspected better. It doesn't matter whether that $500,000/yr is a 35% income tax, a 25% income tax with 6% FICA, or a 2% income tax. That guy is paying his fair share, as well as the share of two dozen other people.
02:25 PM on 09/21/2012
Mooching? Really? Let's see, don't you think that someone that lives in a $1,000,000 home should pay more for police protection than someone that lives in a furnished flat? Shouldn't someone that travels a lot pay more to upkeep airports than someone who never travels? The fact is that people that make more money tend to take greater advantage of common government services so I don't see why they shouldn't pay more. You can't just use per capita spending.
09:00 PM on 09/21/2012
I will let you mull that one over for a bit to decide if you truly want to go tit-for-tat on who uses more government services and government transportation.
12:05 PM on 09/20/2012
Obamacare must be amended to include free hearing aid coverage for progressives. Romney's numbers were off and he was sloppy with his words, however, in context it is clear Romney said that it was not his job to worry about courting voters who would never vote for him. Rather, he should focus his time and resources on independent and undecided voters. He never said that as president he would not represent 47% of Americans. As for lies... I suspect this author and most Obama acolytes had no problem with President Clinton's lie about that woman.... Ms. Lewinski; thus the warm and fuzzy nostalgia at the Democratic convention. Situational ethics has been Liberalism's achilles heal for generations. Mitt Romney not morally qualified to serve... you have better arguments to make. Obama is in a hand ride coming down the stretch. You should be celebrating Liberalism's high water mark. Enjoy your time in the sun before the pendulum swings.
01:42 PM on 09/20/2012
Okay, let's think about this for a second. You are saying that Romney is correct that the entire 47% of people who don't pay income tax vote for Obama? That is an absolutely crazy statement. First off, a good percentage of those people don't vote at all. Second, a good percentage of them are reliably republican voters. Nine out of 10 states that receive the most federal funding per capita are the reddest of the reddest states. Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina.

It was what Romney DID SAY about these voters which is essentially that they are 'moochers' that turns people's stomach. People who are disabled - temporarily or permanent need government assistance, Ryan's college was paid for by SS survivors benefits & Romney's father received public assistance. Were they 'moochers'? aSSISTANCE ALLOWS PEOPLE ASSISTANCE TO MOVE UP that is not the same thing as dependency.
03:35 PM on 09/20/2012
No, that is not what I am saying. Surely, not all people who pay no income tax will vote for Obama. My point is that he never said that he would not represent 47% of Americans if he is elected president. That statement, if he ever said it, would make him unelectable. His point was in the context of the campaign, it was not his job to court voters who will never vote for him. Romney's statement was in-artful and his numbers flawed. For that he deserves criticism. My point is that people are attributing to him a statement he did not make (i.e., that he would not represent 47% of Americans if elected).
02:35 PM on 09/21/2012
The implication was that the fictional 47% were, as far as Mr. Romney was concerned, throw aways. Granted he did not say he wouldn't represent them. He simply implied he had nothing but the greatest disdain for them because they considered themselves victims and expected the government to supply them with things they didn't deserve. Would you trust someone who had nothing for disdain for you to represent you? Slice and dice it any way you want but you can't get away from the implication that Mr. Romney looks down upon 47% of the population and, since he overlaps very different portions of the population into that group, doesn't have a clue about the economic realities of the nation which, to my mind, is the bigger issue.
12:00 PM on 09/20/2012
Mitt just want to be President of the Corporate States of America where only CEO's and rich people reside.
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07:47 PM on 09/20/2012
What is it with right winger and their love of the CSA?
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Miranda Wrietz
Yes, it is a mandate.
11:12 AM on 09/20/2012
A rich man said to me, "You are smart, why aren't you rich?" I replied, "You are a rich man, why aren't you smart?"
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Sherry Wachter
10:05 AM on 09/20/2012
Exactly--on the day that Mr. Romney proves to us all that he has paid Federal income tax at all, let alone a percentage congruent with that most of us pay--releasing his tax returns as is customary for presidential candidates should put the matter to rest nicely--he has my permission to be as sniffy as he likes about us worker bees--but ONLY if he can show that he has paid a similar percentage of his taxes. I'm even willing to accept his combined taxes, the same number we're using to show that even those who pay no federal income taxes still pay a substantial sum in other taxes.
09:44 AM on 09/20/2012
Romney was speaking about votes, and those votes he would not be counting on. As president, Obama has disregarded the wealthy, and said he would not be concerned about them. What's the difference? Also consider this: If Obama is re-elected, ALL of us will be opening our wallets farther than imaginable for everything we buy. Electric is going up due to harsh regulations set by this admin on the coal industry, who just this past week closed down production in some plants in the midwest. That raises electric bills, and that includes raising overhead for stores, who will increase prices to us. Harsh regulations on our gas refineries are closing some of them, same deal, every one pays more for fuel, and for goods and services as the stores also pay more for fuel. Obamacare will hit medicaide in all states, so up go fees and state taxes. Since stores also incur that expense, for example, suffering higher property taxes, up go prices for goods and services again as they compensate. AND, when the Bush tax cuts expire and Taxes go up for the wealthy, up go prices in the stores even more as the business owners make another adjustment for that. You see how much Obama does control things?? Do you see how much HE disregards you folks in the middle class????? Vote for Romney, let this man go - as Clint suggested, and please help stop this madness.
02:01 PM on 09/20/2012
As president, Obama said he would not be concerned about them.

Really? Quote please? Currently the banks are able to borrow money at 0% interest, they received a $700 billion dollar bailout. Taxes at ALL levels, corporate taxes, taxes for the wealthiest etc, are as low or lower than they have been in 60 years.
You complain about electric bills going up because of regulations? On coal? Do you know how much coal costs us in terms of health expenses? Those regulations REDUCE costs overall. Moreover - the emissions standards set by Obama will essentially cut your future costs for gas IN HALF. We are importing LESS oil under Obama than under Bush or any other president in recent memory. Obamacare will not 'hit' medicaid - what are you talking about?
As far as taxes going up on the wealthy - it's not going to make a dent in inflation. I make around $300 K a year in taxable income (individually - my husband earns his own living). If my taxes go up they will go up 3% on the amount I make over $200K, that's a whopping $3000 more I'll be paying in taxes - BIG DEAL. I would much rather my taxes go up than my customer's taxes go up. If my customers don't have money to spend, then I'm out of business. Why don't you people in the middle class stand UP for yourselves? Join a union, fight for higher wages. STOP voting for trickle down economics.
10:11 AM on 09/21/2012
Obama claimed that the private sector was doing just fine. He said the same about the wealthy. He has said many times his focus is the middle class. I may be taking his words out of context. AND, what Romney said about folks he is unconcerned with was only in the context of votes he expects, not in reference to whom he will represent as POTUS.

Medicaid and Obamacare: The states will be creating Obama's exchanges, and those who join will be added, at least for now, onto state medicaid rosters. It will be on states to pay for these exchanges. Some are opting out, a result of the decision by SCOTUS. But in those states creating exchanges, the money will come from taxpayers.

Taxing wealthy: Notice that Rush Limbaugh used to reside in New York, and paid New York taxes. Now he resides in Florida, because New York raised taxes on the wealthy. Instead of keeping what they were getting, they lost ALL of Rush's contribution. Businesses do not have to keep their corporations in the U.S.

Airlines recently lost a tax loophole, they immediately raised customer rates. Banks, when new fed regulations were implemented, increased fees for using bank cards.

You would see your taxes go up rather than your customers', How does your paying more in taxes protect anyone from paying more for goods and services? You may not raise prices to compensate, many will.
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08:39 AM on 09/20/2012
Finally, the Republican mind exposed!
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Janet Anderson
independent andy
08:03 AM on 09/20/2012
he represents 100% of the top earners, especially the 1 and 2% like himself. He's done as far as being elected President. I'll love to see how he's going to answer these questions in the debate. He'll just lie through his teeth, I suppose. So......what else is new?? We need to concentrate on the house and senate so Obama has a congress that's willing to work to get things done. We certainly don't need 4 more years of obstruction.
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critterzdad2
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
05:38 AM on 09/20/2012
Does this guy REALLY think everyone in the 49 percent is so stupid that we will forgive and forget all his gaffes to date and the things he has said in private to big donors? Really. Just how stupid is this guy? Asked for ten years of tax returns he declined. "None of your business," says wife. When challenged to prove he even PAID federal taxes, he replied, " I checked and I've never paid LESS than 13 or 14 percent!" But no proof was offered.
When asked about offshore accounts in tax havens he implied that the issue was too complicated for the average guy to get- so there was nothing more forthcoming! The man is feeling his way forward in this so called campaign mistake by mistake and upset group by upset group. Offended that Romney doesn't believe in abortion? "I believe there are cases where abortion is appropriate",says the Mittster! Offended by the notion of MORE tax relief for people like him? "We mean to give tax relief to everyone,"says Romney.
This man is a walking, talking ad for flip flops. One has to wonder how he could possibly keep track of it all.
The answer is that he has no intention of doing anything he promises to anyone who isn't part of HIS strata of the electorate.
Good luck to all of us poor people. I'm wondering how to get the apple concession in front of the white house gates!
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Sherry Wachter
10:09 AM on 09/20/2012
You'll have a hard time squeezing it in between all the rotten tomato concessions...
04:58 AM on 09/20/2012
Again wondering why anyone is surprised?
04:21 AM on 09/20/2012
I think I said tis before,why are we surprised?
04:06 AM on 09/20/2012
The increase in the pitch and volume in his voice when he gets to the they think they are ENTITLED to food and healthcare speaks more about his beliefs. This was not mere pandering to the crowd and giving them what they wanted to hear it was his true feelings coming out. This was not a scripted speech it was to a question and off the cuff. This is the same chicken hawk that protested FOR the Vietnam war , then disappeared to France instead of getting drafted or signing up for the military. The time in California before the trip to France also included having a "red light" and uniform used to pull people over. These things say volumes about his values and beliefs and what type of person he really is. I think that "Its a Wonderful Life" portrays this thing best when George Baily lectures Potter about his fathers death "Just remember this, Mr. Potter, that this rabble you’re talking about…they do most of the working and paying and living and dying in this community. Well, is it too much to have them work and pay and live and die in a couple of decent rooms and a bath? Anyway, my father didn’t think so. People were human beings to him, but to you, a warped frustrated old man, they’re cattle. Well, in my book he died a much richer man than you’ll ever be!"
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marta76
Recovered Republican
06:44 AM on 09/20/2012
Exactly. The words are horrible enough and when you add the disdain and tone it goes off the charts.
Mary Zorski
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
09:02 AM on 09/20/2012
Steven, you've used such a fabulous quote here from that movie. I always tear up when I watch that part because it's so true, and has been for most of the history of this country. Thanks, you've made my day!
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RepublicansAreFail
The first 3 letters of Conservatism spell "CON"
02:51 AM on 09/20/2012
The real moochers in this country are the greedy rich.
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sawadee2000
Teaching English in Thailand and loving it!
01:42 AM on 09/20/2012
Mitt and his billionaire buddies don't mind telling lies if it gets them what they want. What is ironic is that a whole lot of folks who plan to vote for Romney are in the 47% he so despises. They are in for a serious shock when they find out that it is THEIR taxes that are going to be going up. When Romney blows the Southern Strategy dog whistle, these people think that Mitt only intends to make life difficult for black "welfare queens" and other assorted moochers, not realizing that they are also on his list. Surprise!
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage against stupidity
01:20 PM on 09/20/2012
sawadee2000 - Yep! My feelings exactly. F nF.