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Three Questions After Obama's Afghanistan Speech

Posted: 06/23/2011 10:12 am

Three questions should be asked in the wake of President Obama's speech on Afghanistan last night. What does it means for the United States' strategy there -- and in Pakistan? Does it represent a qualitative change in official American thinking about its stakes in the region and in the wider 'war on terror'? What influences shaped the approach Obama outlined?

Here is a preliminary, and sketchy, attempt to answer them. First, Washington's goals remain the same. That means a vigorous campaign against the al-Qaeda remnants on both sides of the Durand Line, an unrelenting war of attrition against the Taliban (its leadership above all), a campaign of bolstering anti-Taliban political forces to ensure that they will be minor players in the country's future, and to secure from a straying Mr. Karzai agreement to accept large American military bases for the foreseeable future. Whatever the odds on achieving these ambitious objectives may have been, they are somewhat lowered by a withdrawal schedule mildly more accelerated than General Petraeus and Secretary Gates wanted. Still, the United States will keep troops there for at least a year-and-a-half, bigger than the one it had in 2009. As for Pakistan, Obama will continue the relentless, and futile, effort to dictate to the Islamabad leadership an aggressive strategy against all hostile elements. Hence, the risk of a rupture and/or strife within Pakistan will grow.

This assessment points to an answer for the second question. Mr. Obama's worldview has not undergone any modification. For all the rhetoric, he still is devoted to creating conditions of zero threat to American security emanating from the region. Too, he has not questioned the goal of a dominant American military presence stretching from the Persian Gulf deep into Central Asia. Perhaps most important, there is no sign of a readiness to engage with other powers to design and implement a broad security system that takes into account the interests and outlook of Iran, Pakistan, India, Russia and China. None of those states will be happy about this. Mr. Obama has no strong foreign policy convictions. But such as they are, they point to following the path first staked out in 2001.

Finally, how do we explain the White House's readiness commit to a schedule of force reductions that runs against the grain of Petraeus/Gates/Panetta? We have to look at American domestic politics to understand the dynamic within the administration that led to this outcome. Obama's preoccupation is getting himself reelected. All else pales into relative insignificance. His in-house advisers, Chief of State William Daley and National Security Adviser Thomas Donilon, push very hard to reinforce the President's already strong predisposition to put politics above foreign commitments and goals. The rhetoric about the need to concentrate on domestic needs was similarly inspired. As public support for leaving Afghanistan grows, and as the country's economic problems fester, it became imperative to cast Afghanistan in this light.

There is reason to believe, nonetheless, that Obama hopes to have it both ways, i.e. a politically rewarding reformulation of America's position in AfPak and a spinable measure of success in at least preventing an unraveling.

 
 
 
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jstrate
10:04 PM on 06/23/2011
Some liberals think that the U.S. should snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Some conservatives look at sunk costs and think that the U.S. should stay indefinitely until the job is done, whatever that means. The Taliban have been around for so long that perhaps it's best to redefine them not as insurgents and combatants but rather as criminal elements. The U.S. is good at building and running prisons and perhaps the Afghans can use some help there.
01:57 AM on 06/24/2011
"Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"? The hell does that even mean?
04:05 PM on 06/24/2011
It means that liberal Democrats (and I am one) have the tendency to engage in self-defeating behavior.
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karen lyons kalmenson
i poem/paint, sometimes, i ain't
05:05 PM on 06/23/2011
we need to get out of dodge. now or later, the taliban will return. how many more american lives have to go by the wayside, for the inevitable.

step on the gas, mr obama, and pull the troops out...it is good for us, and good for your re-election.
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Bayard Waterbury
social philosopher
05:02 PM on 06/23/2011
I continue to be awed by the complete stupidity of US foreign policy. How do we believe that spending more than $100 billion a year in Afghanistan will ever prove to be fruitful. In the long run, we are simply propping up a corrupt regime that doesn't even want us there. and all of that money going into a region of the world where America is loathed. Remember that Pakistan is as much of a home to the Taliban/Al Qaida nexis as their neighbor, and the Pakis also hate us. It all is so ridiculous, considering what level of homeland security could be bought at about a third of the price and without risking American lives and spending money in countries that despise us. It is a great tragedy, and will continue until it drive this country competely and irretrievably beyond its capacity to afford this. Spending more than a trillion dollars a year on our military only to encourage the rest of the world to hate us is not the way to go.
02:42 PM on 06/23/2011
Democracy Now! also aired an analysis of the speech with guest Gareth Porter, a historain and investigative journalist. Porter said that it was unrealistic to expect to negotiate with the Taliban without an announcement of a withdrawal timeline. "There is an effort here to create a narrative that, as he put it, the war is receding, the tide of war is receding, when in fact nothing of the sort is happening." He said that that he thinks that Pres. Obama will regret his vague language on promising to ebb the tide of war. He also talked about the research he has done is which he questions Gen. Petraeus's claims of successes in Afghanistan.
Porter actually said that Obama is doing 80% of what Gen, Petraeus wants.
Check it out: bit.ly/iSHRYs
01:29 PM on 06/23/2011
Obama has not only continued the Bush foreign policy but he has given the go ahead to another expansion of the overseas empire into the Asian Pacific which will not be cheap and he has spent about a billion dollars on his war on Libya which he foolishly said would take days not weeks. We are now guaranteed to be wasting more lives and money in Afghanistan until well into 2014 at a time when we can least afford it.
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JNEGRONI
Civility amidst anonymity
12:55 PM on 06/23/2011
As a conservative, I'm with Obama on this one. We'll never be able to "fix" Afghanistan, at least not with military force. Foreign aid and medical services are all that's really needed. There just has to be a better way to take down the Al Queda network, or a more clever way. We just don't have the resources for it.
jhNY
Mercy.
02:14 PM on 06/23/2011
As our own intelligence folk estimate there are fewer than 100 Al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan, I'd say we've taken down their network there. Yet we do not leave.

And though we have spent billions there under Bush and more billions under Obama for the training of police and soldiers, we will be there after 2014 with a force of 25,000--- for the stated purpose of training Afghan police and soldiers.

So long as we are there, we threaten Iran from two sides, and between Iraq and Afghanistan, have enough forces to protect oil supply routes from disruption. With these facts in mind, when really, do you think we'll leave?
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Bayard Waterbury
social philosopher
05:03 PM on 06/23/2011
That is the level of power held by the Military-Industrial Complex in this nation. So sad.
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Cowboylove
12:09 PM on 06/23/2011
A military analyst on MSNBC said that we needed at least 200,000 troops in Afghanistan for at least ten more years to effectively do what needs to be done in Afghanistan. I think this begs the question, what good is winning in Afghanistan if the US loses every where else? 200,000 troops is more than double the deployment at its maximum level in Afghanistan. And what do we get for that commitment and what is it worth?

We conceivably could put troops around the world in massive numbers to monitor terrorism but is that really effective? There are about 100 Al Queda in Afghanistan today. We have 1.000 troops for each one of them. Is this reasonable or even practical?

Half of the Republicans are calling the troop withdrawal a disaster, saying we need to increase our forces in Afghanistan, while the other half say we need to get out faster. Democrats are more for getting out sooner, but there are still those who think the withdrawal should be slower. The truth is, Afghanistan will never be a democratic nation. Never. The Taliban will likely rule there for a hundred years. Getting out as quickly as possible may not be ideal, but it is the thing to do. There is no good end game here anymore than there was in Iraq - but getting out is something we must do. I think Obama has it just about right.
jhNY
Mercy.
02:18 PM on 06/23/2011
But even after we "leave", we will still station 25,000 troops there to train the oft-trained yet seemingly untrainable Afghan army and police. I think that Obama has outlined a plan that can always be revised to include more time over there for more troops. What he did last night was as least as much for re-election as international strategy.
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Eris23
Justice is in indefinite detention.
11:35 AM on 06/23/2011
My main question would be if he honestly believed anything he said? I don't believe he did.
TonyOnly
What is said is more important than who says it.
11:29 AM on 06/23/2011
The real goal in Afghanistan was, and always should`ve been, to get Bin Laden. All the rest of it was just publum for the masses by the businessmen of war.

Recent events have have proven the war against terror can be more effectively fought electronically and covertly, with a minimum of troops on the ground.

It`s highly likely Pakistan has proven it will cooperate if appropriate pressure is applied. I suspect if they hadn`t, Bin Laden would still be alive.
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Gilmoure
Systems Analyst
11:06 AM on 06/23/2011
re: "...he has not questioned the goal of a dominant American military presence stretching from the Persian Gulf deep into Central Asia."

So... what is our purpose in Afghanistan? I mean, do we have any success or completion goals?
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TomDegan
Author of "The Rant": http://www.tomdegan.blogspot
10:46 AM on 06/23/2011
NOTE TO PRESIDENT OBAMA:

Remember that Nobel Prize they gave you upon entering office? Give it back.

I plan on voting for him on Election Day 2012 but - JEEZ LOUISE! - what a disappointment! The alternative is too depressing to contemplate.

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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unionave
Old Codger
10:34 AM on 06/23/2011
This mess started by sending thousands of troops to seek out and destroy one man . And it took ten years to do that at the cost of many lives and billions of Dollars . While Americans are being forced to give up many of their necessities of life in the process .

Now that that one man has been found and destroyed the subject is changing to another of the old invented enemies called al-Qaeda which numbers in the dozens .

When the popularity of the al-Qaeda gang wears out the Taliban will be moved up in popularity . There are other monetary reasons why the public is being bamboozled about these various enemies and we have yet to hear one politician tell the truth about those other reasons .

As pointed out in this article : The President is walking a chalk line to keep from being annihilated in the next election . And the people that want this mess to continue have the means to do just that .
10:10 AM on 06/23/2011
It is time for a single term presidency. Way too much effort is spent doing the popular thing to improve the changes of re-election versus the necessary course of action. Whether it is a 6 year term or an 8 year term doesn't really matter. By making it a one and done process it would increase the chances of a president doing the right thing for the good of the country versus the good of his re-election effort.
07:45 PM on 06/23/2011
This is an idea that merits bringing back for review. Two terms systems in Republics tend to use the first term as a campaign tool for the second term. The problem is not applicable to parliamentary systems where a term can be ended by the stroke of parliament.

The US system is especially gruesome due to the system of primaries that prolong the electoral process time to more than a year. In England campaign time is limited to 3 weeks.

It is time to re-think the electoral process, but the best bet would be to simply change presidential terms to a one six year term. Mexico and other countries have a one six year term that works fairly well as far as the issue of using the office and the decision making to campaign.
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Andre Fomine
ORIENTAL REVIEW Project Pioneer
09:58 AM on 06/23/2011
That is to say, Afghanistan needs a similar underpinning at the regional level. Once again, it becomes SCO’s call. All this boils down to the criticality of a regional consensus. The SCO decision to consider the membership of India and Pakistan may have come just in the nick of time. The US strategy was to strike grand bargains or effect reset selectively in its relations with individual countries and to retain the monopoly of conflict resolution in Afghanistan. But the strategy has failed. The geopolitical reality is that the US simply lacks the resources to carry on with the Afghan war. More on the matter here: http://orientalreview.org/2011/06/23/obama’s-drawdown-speech-sco-faces-the-afghan-challenge/
09:26 AM on 06/23/2011
The most comprehensive and strategic rebuttal of the troop withdrawal plan is found in the piece "There Is No War In Afghanistan."

It also disagrees with some Republican wets. It is a geo-political lesson well worth considering.
http://robbingamerica.blogspot.com/2011/06/there-is-no-war-in-afghanistan.html