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Why Americans Should be Following Canadian Politics Right Now

Posted: 12/29/08 12:53 PM ET

For most Americans, being asked to watch the inner workings of the Canadian political system probably sounds like being asked to watch paint dry.

This is a fair reaction, given that Canada is known much more for maple syrup and hockey than for newsworthy political stories. It's hard to imagine anyone getting excited by a political system which defines its own mandate by the drearily boring phrase of "peace, order and good government". So why should Americans care about Canadian politics?

Well, I would argue that Americans should be watching Canadian politics for two important reasons.

First, the entertainment value. Canadian politics over the last several weeks has been hands down the best drama on television and will provide you valuable insight into why Canada's biggest exports to the US are comedians.

Second, and more importantly, we desperately need your help. Our political system is in a state of crisis and in urgent need of the type of political renewal the US is going through.

To encourage you further, I'll let you in on a national secret. Until recently, Canadians have actually been quite smug about the stability and inclusiveness of our political system versus the United States. It's true. Despite your stereotype of the friendly neighbour to the North, we are actually quite smug about our political system. We justify this political system superiority by noting:


But maintaining this smug belief has become an increasingly difficult task recently. The last several years have not been good to the Canadian political system and the last few months have been even worse. Today, Canadians are facing an unprecedented crisis in our political structure that actually threatens our ability to proactively handle these troubled economic times.


So how did this all happen? Well where to begin? We could start with the consequences of the failed efforts by governments during the 1980s to address the risks of Quebec separating from the country. Cutting a very long story short, these failed efforts then led to the rise of specific federal political parties which defined themselves more by a regional focus than by a national one, like the Bloc Quebecois in Quebec and the Reform Party in Western Canada. We could also go through the story of the significant infighting within the dominant political party which governed in Canada from 1993 to 2006 which, over the last three successive elections, has left the party so divided and disjointed that its support has shrunk to its lowest level in Canadian history. But all this is arguable and the past is what it is. What's more important is the current political crisis and what's to be done about it.

To catch readers up, here is an overview of the situation that is being called by both Canadian commentators and American commentators as the best political drama on TV.

Revenge Politics. The origin of the current political crisis begins with an extraordinary act of revenge politics by Canada's Prime Minister, Stephen Harper. His political party, the Conservatives, has just won a "minority" standing in the last federal election in October. In Canada's Parliamentary democracy, the political party that wins the most seats in the House of Commons governs. If that party has not won more than 50% of the seats of the House, then they govern with a "minority". This means that on any votes in the House deemed votes of "confidence" the government must find a way to win at least 50% of the votes of the House or they fall and a new election must be called. It's a tenuous hold on power and so in a minority government it's pretty common practice to govern with "cautious cooperation". But cautious and cooperative were not how Mr. Harper was feeling just weeks after failing for a second time to win a political majority for his party and smack dab in the middle of the most profound economic downturn in Canada since the Great Depression. Instead, the Prime Minister chose to use an address usually reserved for an update on the state of the economy, his fall economic update, as the mechanism for a brazen bid to cripple the operations of the opposition parties. Ignoring the economic issues completely, Mr. Harper instead proposed the elimination of a public funding feature for federal parties which has accounted for up to 60% of his opposition's operational funding. It was a direct partisan attack which the Prime Minister calculated he would be able to push through given the weakened state of the opposition after the recent election.

Coalition Pact with "Socialists and Separatists": The Prime Minister had calculated badly on his gambit and the result was to set off a series of hurried closed door meetings amongst the opposition parties which culminated in a Coalition forming. This Coalition collected around two fundamental concepts; that the opposition parties would act together to vote down the government within the week, and that they would put a Coalition government plan forward as a viable alternative to having another election. You see, in the Canadian political system, if a minority government loses the confidence of the House, it is the prerogative of the Governor General (the Queen's appointed representative in Canada) to look for alternatives within the House before calling a new election (don't worry, I'll get to the Queen in a minute). The main controversy was the proposed participants in the Coalition. At the moment, the third largest political party in the House of Commons is the Bloc Quebecois, a party specific to the province of Quebec and with the mandate of having Quebec separate from Canada. The irony of this has been spoken about at length, so I'll leave it for now, but what this meant is that the coalition being proposed therefore had to include the support of this separatist party. Further, it was to be led by Stephane Dion, the highly unpopular leader of the second largest party in the House, the Liberal Party. His major accomplishment in the last election was to drive his party's share of the popular vote to its lowest level in Canadian history and as a result had just announced his pending resignation. Mr. Dion was joined by Jack Layton, the leader of the New Democratic Party, which by US standards would likely be called Canada's "socialist" party. So, at best, the Coalition was proposing an unelected government of the strangest bedfellows.

The Prime Minister Asks to Shut Down Parliament: Facing certain defeat in the House, the Prime Minister had only one option, to avoid a vote in the House which would result in the government falling. The only way to do that would be to "prorogue" the House completely. If this word is new to you, don't worry, it was for most Canadians as well. It literally means to shut Parliament down. In order to enact this drastic action, the Prime Minister would need to take his request right to the top of the Canadian political hierarchy, to the Queen.

The Queen Decides the Fate of the Nation: You see, as a nod to our Commonwealth tradition in Canada, our actual head of state is not the Prime Minister but actually the Queen, or more precisely, the Queen's appointed representative, the Governor General. Now in practice, this position is really just a tea-party throwing ceremonial figurehead who rubber stamps all the legislation passed over from the Houses of Parliament and hands out special awards on important occasions. That said, in times of real trouble, this position actually holds some power and in this case, she held all the power to decide on the Prime Minister's request. So on this particular snowy Thursday in Ottawa, the Prime Minister put on his best tap shoes and literally crossed the street from his residence to hers to ask for the unprecedented ability to lock the doors of Parliament until his Party could get their budget together and open back up in January for a vote. After much speculation and a two hour meeting, she agreed to this unprecedented request and the Prime Minister shut down Parliament denying the Coalition the ability to bring down the government.

The Video Debacle that takes Down a Leader: In the middle of this political crisis, the Prime Minister had requested national airtime to get his key messages to the people of Canada. The Liberal Leader, the proposed leader of the Coalition, was granted a similar request. It was the opportunity for both leaders to speak directly to the Canadian people to help them to sort out the political mess and win over a confused population. The Prime Minister's address was slick, calculated and aired on time on national television. The Liberal leader's video address was late arriving and had a web-cam video quality to it akin to the Chris Croker Britney plea. It will likely go down in history as the biggest mistake of his political career and was such an embarrassment for the Liberal Party that they made the unprecedented move to remove Dion as the leader shortly after the prorogation decision and to appoint a new interim leader of the Party. The new leader, author, historian and professor, Michael Ignatieff, will remain the interim leader until the Party can officially coronate him in May, in what was supposed to have been a competitive leadership election. It was a drastic and undemocratic measure which underscores the desperation of the times and of the Liberal Party. Interestingly for Americans, Ignatieff has spent much of the last 20 years in the US and was most recently a professor at Harvard University.

So now the stage is set for Act II, Scene III. The Prime Minister has bought himself until late January before having to face his Parliament again, this time to vote on a proper annual budget. When he does this, he will be staring across the aisle at a stronger Liberal party and likely a weaker coalition (the new Liberal leader is guarded on the topic). No one really knows what will happen in this next sitting of Parliament; maybe a temporary peace, maybe a long series of threats and stand-offs leading to an eventual dissolution of parliament and a new election.

One thing is for certain, this veritable gong show in and around the House of Commons will likely only deepen the real political crisis in Canada. While this recent series of events may have been entertaining, it also served to highlight the significantly more concerning issues in our political system right now. Put simply, there is a growing dissonance between performance and expectation of performance in our elected representatives. The evidence is on every talk show in the nation but it is no clearer than in looking at the polls themselves.

The 2008 election hit a record low for voter turnout in Canada and officially had our two nation's registered voter turnout percentages cross paths, with the US actually surpassing Canada. Fewer voters than ever before are showing up to Canadian elections and an alarmingly low percentage of young voters are getting engaged in the political process. It is the exact opposite trend to the US over the last 10 years. While America is going through a political renaissance, Canada has been going through a political dark age and with situations like the current one, it's hard to imagine a fast turnaround.

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Source: Elections Canada

So this takes us back to the main point of the article, why Americans should be following Canadian politics right now?

First, follow us for the entertainment of watching a political system producing great drama at the moment. In the process, you will learn more about us as a nation and you will be better able to laugh with our comedians as they parody our political foibles as we do with your comedians (many of whom were originally ours by the way).

More importantly though, follow us so as to offer advice on a path forward which reengages our nation in ways similar to what you have struggled though. There is no more important work for a nation than maintaining a healthy political democracy and we need help.

 
For most Americans, being asked to watch the inner workings of the Canadian political system probably sounds like being asked to watch paint dry. This is a fair reaction, given that Canada is known...
For most Americans, being asked to watch the inner workings of the Canadian political system probably sounds like being asked to watch paint dry. This is a fair reaction, given that Canada is known...
 
 
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01:37 PM on 12/31/2008
The real tragedy is the fact that so many Canadians do not understand how Parliamentary governments work. The fact is that a Coalition Government is a perfectly legitimate alternative to the current Minroity Conservative government. To say that this shouldn't happen because Jabck Layton is a "Socialist" and the Bloc are "Separatists" is a personal opinon and irrelevant - and insultingly stupid.

The fact that so many Canadians are reacting in an ignorant and anti-democratic way to this situation (calling the Coalition Anti-Democratic is completely reverse of the truth). is a sign that we have TOO MUCH Amerivcan influence in our political discourse.

This was a good article until the last paragraph, already but the fact that the Harper Conservatives use Republican consultants is way too much influence As a Dual citizen I plead that my fellow Americans butt the f**k out of Canadian politics PERIOD. And to my fellow Canadians it is time we get back to being students of our own political system and spend less energy on "Americanizing" our country.
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07:39 PM on 12/31/2008
So, are you a fellow Ignatieff fan?
12:24 PM on 12/31/2008
Political cycles come and go. And except for the hard core international political wonks amoung us, what goes in Canada produces drooping eyelids and painful yawns. Except of course for the Quebec issue, now that's interesting.

When I see Quebec, I see the southwestern U.S. 50 years from now. Language and culture seperate people just as they bind. Those radicals in the southwest of our country who would love a more seperate system are watching Quebec with great interest.
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OliverTwist
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09:33 AM on 12/31/2008
The Canadians co_could de_de_declare in_in_in_de_de_dependence.

The recklessness of such an idea is enough to make you stutter, eh.
09:13 AM on 12/31/2008
Hello. I do have some knowledge of Canadianpolitics. I remember some previous Prime Ministers: Pierre Elliot Trudeau, vaguely Joe Clark... and a more recent PM ...is it Jean Chretien... the one with the heavy French accent? This article was interesting in the sense that Canada is now experiencing some of the turmoil that our federal and state government undergoes on a regular basis. It seems odd that PM Harper would alienate potential coalition partners, while being a "minority government." That doesn't make sense. Stephen Harper is displaying as much political acumen as our ever genius President Bush ( I'm being sarcastic). They both "don't get it." Canada, I feel your pain. In this instance, I can honestly state "Blame Canada". But good luck to you all. I get the sense that with all of these maneuverings, then Harper's government will soon lose a "no confidence" vote and will have no choice but to call for fresh elections. There seems to be too much animosity between the various groups. Canadian voters will decide the final outcome.
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03:33 AM on 12/31/2008
The right in Canada has imported the toxins of American Republican political theory: division, derision, and discord.

Purge it before it destroys you.
10:21 PM on 12/30/2008
uh sorry, no, but we DON'T need help from the US. heck, harper is way too interested in importing US politics (republican politics, that is) into canada. i've lived in both countries for about the same amount of time, and i never want to experience US health care again.

some renewal would be nice, but i'd rather it come from left of obama, who's too centrist for my taste. as a country we're more socially evolved than the US, and while harper is busy undoing that, i'm looking towards the NDP now instead of the liberals to bring us back onto our generally humanitarian path.
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08:04 PM on 12/30/2008
It seems a little rash of you to be asking for advice from Americans about Canadian government. Americans are doing better, because in general they have been paying attention to what goes on in our government for about 3 years now, but whether we are experiencing a renascence in politics is still in question. It seems to me that the really major flaw in your system, which I actually consider far superior to ours, is the role of the Governor General, which seems to be a rather anachronistic artifact. Had the GG not ruled in favor of prorogation, the coalition would have been able to form a government, but it would not have had much legitimacy or been likely to have survived long. I wonder whether PM Harper's proposal to defund the parties would have been passed in the commons. It seems unlikely, but, even though I do follow Canadian politics on the national level, I don't know enough of the ramifications to speculate. At least, the Liberals are now rid of Dion, which can't help but improve their party, so I look for the government to fall shortly after Parliament goes back into session, followed by an election which brings an NDP-Liberal coalition into power. I don't know which party is worse for your nation, the Bloc or the Conservatives, but my prejudice is against the Conservatives. At any rate, good luck to you, and Canada.
10:25 PM on 12/30/2008
the bloc is nowhere as bad as conservatives make it out to be, and its national influence is pretty much limited to doing what's best for québec. which is rather less interested in separatism these days than it was even just 10 years ago.

i definitely think the conservatives are worse for the nation.
03:55 PM on 12/31/2008
2/3's of the seats in Quebec elected separatist Members of Parliament. That speaks for itself. The BQ's stated goal is the Sovereignty of Quebec. Until then there is a bucket of money called equalization payments, and who says no to a gravy train?
Quebecs national influence starts with a guarantee of 25% of the seats in the House of Commons. Regardless of population, or any other factor, this leftover from the French Empire, the very same one the British Empire taxed tea in Boston over, is granted this percentage of seats as long as the wind shall blow etc. In theory all of the Provincial Legislatures are equals and the Confederation of those equals has a Parliament which is the equal of all the Provincial Legislatures, but responsible for different parts of government.
None of the other regions of Canada are granted this guarantee of seats. What this means is the only way to gain a majority is to secure seats in every other Province _and_ in Quebec, or be the overwhelming choice of the rest of Canada, outside Quebec, and Mr. Harper is only 12 seats away from doing exactly that.
pir I was cheering for the Quebecois in 1995, go! No, really, begone and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
The BQ are in a sense better for the Nation, if they would only actually remove the albatross from around the rest of Canadas neck.
10:37 PM on 12/30/2008
Mr. Harper made Canadian taxpayers aware that 86% of the Bloc Quebecois' budget (over $2 million) to reach the goal of Sovereignty for Quebec, came from all taxpayers in the "deranged Dominion", not just the voters in Quebec. The voters spoke on Oct 14th and returned Mr. Harpers party to power with an increased mandate, 12 votes short of a majority, and this coalition would deny that voice.
The Liberals are broke and broken, and it would be a disaster for Canada to allow Mr. Layton into Cabinet.
For what it's worth, if you divide Canada in half at the Manitoba-Ontario border, 72 Conservatives were elected as MP's from Eastern Canada, and 71 from Western Canada. If, in the next election (and yes, bring it on, I will spend 300 million bucks to speak again)a dozen ridings in Ontario swing right slightly, Mr. Harper will be the first Prime Minister in Canadian history not beholden to the french.
03:14 PM on 12/30/2008
Considering the fact that Canada doesn't have race riots, assissination of leaders, much lower crime rate and generally rates pretty high for education, etc. - it ain't all that bad.

Don't like it, move away.
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sonoffestus
Got smart & got out!
08:30 PM on 12/30/2008
Longer life expectancy too. I'm staying!
01:44 AM on 12/31/2008
and I am sure the 1907 Vancouver Riot was just a bit of overexuberance, and Pierre Laporte and Thomas D'Arcy McGee died from accidentally discharged firearms.

Granted the violent crime rate is lower but fraud and car theft rates may be actually higher.
11:40 AM on 12/30/2008
Also, over the possibility of Conservatives winning a majority, the liberal and leftist grassroots suggested the Liberals and NDP run as a coalition in the election's last 3 weeks or so, and so not run candidates against each other in most ridings. (That is, if a riding were clearly more likely to vote Liberal, the NDP wouldn't run a candidate; and vice versa.) This plan was firmly rejected by both parties.

Several Liberal MPs said they would not be a party to the coalition with the separatists, so the coalition would have had even fewer seats than 126.

Polling done by liberal, MSM sources consistenly showed that support against the coalition with the separatists was running at 75% to 80%.

And if the coalition would have been asked to form a government, separatism from the Western Provinces, especially Alberta and Saskatchewan, would have resurfaced. And unlike French separatism that only has a minority of hardcore separatists with the rest just wanting to be "bribed" to stay in Confederation (Quebec gets $6-billion every year from the Feds more than is taken out of the province in taxation, called "equalisation payments"), Western separatists really do want out, knowing that there will be no bribes to keep them in. And Western separatism would also have been fanned by the supposed "green" bent of the coalition that would have badly damaged the centre of those provinces' oil and natural gas economies as did the earlier National Energy Program.
11:32 AM on 12/30/2008
BTW, besides the NDP plotting with the BQ separatists to bring down the newly-formed government before the changes to public party funding had been announced. (BTW, the funding cuts applied to the Conservatives too, who would have lost the most public funding dollars.)

The Coalition was trying to pretend that the separatists weren't part of the coalition, but all three parties signed an agreement. And if the BQ weren't officially part of the coalition, the unprecedented situation in Canada and Westminster of a government being formed by a (coalition) party with fewer seats than the former governing party would have happened. (126 vs 143)

And the idea that the coalition of two parties with 126 seats (contrasted with H.M.'s Loyal Opposition with 143 seats) with only a 12 seat majority (if 2 Independents joined in and the BQ were included) would have had enough MPs in the Commons for day-after-day of ordinary government business votes (and, admittedly, not non-confidence motions) would be impossible, so that the coalition government would be losing votes every week showing that the coalition didn't have the confidence of the House for ordinary business.
02:46 PM on 12/30/2008
He's not American. And in any event, he spent far more time in the United Kingdom than in the US. Even if the right does succeed in retroactively stripping him of his Canadian citizenship, calling him an "American" is quite silly and would apply to millions of Canadians who have gone to work in the US from time to time, and then returned. Calling him Canada's first British prime minister would be equally silly: that honour goes to Sir John A. MacDonald, who was a Scot.
05:08 PM on 12/30/2008
It is NOT actually unprecedented for the governing party or coalition to have fewer MPs. Meighen in 1925 held more seats than William Lyon Mackenzie King's Liberals, but with no chance of support from the third party the Conservatives did not request the GG grant them the chance to replace the then returning Liberal government. Now the Progressive (third) party was so unorganized that King could not do a proper coalition either (and had such differences to not want to). So the second post confederation minority government was effectively by accord though no written agreement may have existed. And that brings my next point that the proposed coalition has only 2 partners not 3, but does have a written accord with the 3rd party making it a coalition-accord government should it get the GG's OK. Of course lambasting the coalition for including the BQ as a coalition partner is good Conservative attack politics that most people are not sophisticated to understand as being a self-serving falsehood of Harper's machine.
07:26 PM on 12/30/2008
lapoutlander, these 75% to 80% that agree with this 'self-serving falsehood of Harper's machine', come now, that's where Obama polls up here and the same percentage reject the coalition? What sort of sophistication is required to understand that allowing a party with the avowed goal of separating and becoming sovereign, anywheres near the levers of power.is a dangerous dumb thing to do. That is Confederacide and 80% of Canadians polled agree.
11:29 AM on 12/30/2008
The Conservative talking heads have already started attacking Ignatieff because he built an academic and journalistic career outside the country.
Ignatieff hasn't been a fulltime resident of Canada for 35 years, IIRC, and not "just" 20 years. Still, he would, in effect, become Canada's first American Prime Minister. (Except, of course, that the incompetent Dion, who was completely rejected by the voters and his own party, would have actually become the PM had the coalition been allowed to form a replacement government.)
07:25 PM on 12/30/2008
I am curious about these talking heads you speak of, the Conservative ones. Talking heads is a TV term, and outside of Rex Murphy on the CBC I cannot think of one that is inarguably 'conservative' in all of TV land in the Great White North. Can you name a few for me?
05:19 PM on 12/31/2008
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11:12 AM on 12/30/2008
In order to get this Canadian in Alberta to pay attention to Canadian politics, get rid of representation by population so that every province has an equal say in the direction of the country, not just ontario and quebec dictating to the rest of the country as has been the case since inception. And how about building in some accountability throughout their terms of office, i.e. referendums because as always our politicians are a bunch of self-serving greedy power hungry egomaniacs who don't care about the average Canadian but just their own careers. Then this Canadian would pay attention and would whole heartedly participate in the process. But as it stands right now and always has been, its all a bunch of nonsense that has nothing to do with governing. We need a government and their agencies to be accountable and efficient, which is neglected while all this nonsense is going on.
05:47 PM on 12/30/2008
What I find curious about this call for a triple-E senate (equal, elected, effective) is the total lack of discussion about the pros and cons. It is modeled on the US senate but Canadians know nothing about the US senate. I doubt even Harper understands that its current election only came about because of the progressive movement pushing what became the 17th amendment to the US constitution. That change only came into effect when enough State legislatures voted for it in 1913. And somehow Harper thinks he can ignore the similar requirements of the Canadian constitution. Then there is the matter of money politics. You can't get elected Senator in most States if you can't raise a million dollars and much more. That is why Senators start their run about 2 years before the actual election. And to do that in Public financing would cost currently from 25-103 million dollars spread over the average senators term (i.e. less than 8 years). And to make the Senators depend on donations would require corporate largess with all the problems and lack of independence that History shows. So the cheapest solution would be 2 Senators per province appointed like pre-1913 USA by the MPPs. No representation by population, no direct vote, no attempts at keeping Quebec in confederation, and no improvement in Democracy. Just a bandage to some Westener's hurt feelings. Clearly this need a wide public and intelligent discussion before we do something we may regret at leisure.
07:43 PM on 12/30/2008
"the cheapest solution would be 2 Senators per province appointed like pre-1913 USA by the MPPs. No representation by population, no direct vote, no attempts at keeping Quebec in confederation, and no improvement in Democracy. Just a bandage to some Westener's hurt feelings."
You would have Prince Edward Island (pop. 139,818) the same number of Senators as Ontario (pop. 12,160,282)
Westerners will not blackmail Upper and Lower Canada over hurt feelings, that way has been proven by the Quebecois as nothing more than welfare, scaled up.
We'll be gone.
11:04 AM on 12/30/2008
Harper simply tried to emulate fellow conservative George Bush's and the GOP's slash and burn politics. While the Canadian brand of conservatism is a threat to democracy, it's not as odious as our American conservatism; you won't find preachers making policy in Ottawa. I implore all Canadians to look to their south and see the disaster that is now the United States. Canada, you're our only hope.
09:38 AM on 12/30/2008
Americans also may not know that the Bloc party, whose ultimate goal is separation from Canada, sits alongside the other parties who are elected NATIONALLY in (federal) parliament. The Bloc is not a national party. They appear on ballots only in one province, Quebec. Even for Canadians it's hard to understand the logic of the requirements for a party to sit in parliament that allow this.
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03:31 AM on 12/31/2008
Considering how many "conservative" Canadians in the West talk about getting rid of Quebec, I'm surprised the Bloc doesn't have quite a constituency out there.
11:59 AM on 12/31/2008
While I wish the Bloc Quebecois would dissapear. I have to take exception your lack of understanding of our laws. Any person or any party is allowed to put up candidates in an as many or as few electoral ridings as they wish. Our history is full of political parties that only ran in a limited number of seats. The Reform Party started out with only candidates in the west. I don't remember people like you up in arms over that. They only expanded when they took over the Progressive conservative party changed the name to conservative but should rename themselves the reform party as that is what they are.

But my main point is aquaint yourself with history and with our laws .

Democrocies are messy and frustrating

And remember it was Stephen Harper who introduced an act in parliament that recognized Quebec as a Nation within Canada. So who is playing with the separatists? The liberals would never have introduced that. As for the bloc, I think they have grown to like the perks of being in parliament. Separtism is currently dead in quebec. In harpers TV speech he called the bloc "Separatists" in his english remarks and 'soverientists" in his french remarks. A weasal word the separatists prefer.

I think Canadians understand the logic even when they don't like the results. I don't like the Prorogue but it is law so I accept it as part of our flawed but still excellent form of democracy.
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06:25 AM on 12/30/2008
I first learned the term "prorogue" while studying Russian history in college. The Czar was fond of proroguing the Duma (parliament, though with far less power than in a democracy) whenever it irritated his autocratic majesty. It's pathetic that you let the Queen's representative do it to you. Maybe in a real crisis, it would be useful for the Governor General to have some power, but "the current pratt serving as Prime Minister is in danger of losing his job" does not qualify as an actual emergency, except to the pratt. (Say, how many t's in pratt?)
10:03 AM on 12/30/2008
Only one t in prat