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Michael J. Panzner

Michael J. Panzner

Posted: October 16, 2009 09:52 PM

Words From the Wise?

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I just got back from The Economist's "Buttonwood Gathering" in New York and thought I'd share a few of the more interesting (and, in some cases, quite enlightening) quotes (in no particular order) from the movers-and-shakers at the (well attended) conference:

Secretary Tim Geithner, United States Department of the Treasury:

"Generally, we did not do enough." (Referring to the failure to address growing concerns over excessive risk-taking in the period leading up to the financial crisis.) [Blogger's note: understatement of the year?]

Stephen Roach, Chairman, Morgan Stanley Asia:

Those who are looking for a "V"-shaped recovery are in for "a rude awakening."
"The imbalances going into the crisis were large to begin with. Now, they are bigger than ever."

George Soros, Chairman, Soros Fund Management:

"Bankers have too much power." (Referring to the hold that Wall Street has over Washington.)
The "globalization of financial markets is built on false premises: namely, that markets can be left to their own devices."

Sheila C. Bair, Chairman, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation:

"Insured deposits are being used in ways that I don't like to see."

Wilbur L. Ross Jr., Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, WL Ross & Co.:

People were focused on "risk-ignoring rates of return." (Describing one of the developments that helped bring about the financial crisis.)
If regulators had taken the time to visit a Countrywide Lending office, they would have seen something akin to "a Wall Street boiler room," rather than a bank branch. (Referring to regulator's unwillingness to go out into the field and see what was really going on during the housing boom.)
"Government is its own systemic risk in the mortgage market."

Lawrence H. Summers, Director of the National Economic Council, The White House:

The root of most financial errors is "when you try to do today what you wished you had done yesterday."
"I can assure you that on Main Street, it is a very different conversation." (Referring to the contrast between the optimism on Wall Street and the more pessimistic mood of those struggling to get by in other parts of the country.)
"It is not the administration's view to bribe those who have been part of the problems we have experienced to do what is in the national interest." (Referring to the suggestion that banks and other financial institutions need financial incentives to support proposed regulatory changes.)

Jeffrey D. Sachs, Director of The Earth Institute, Quetelet Professor of Sustainable Development, and Professor of Health Policy and Management, Columbia University:

"It was grotesque." (Referring to fact that, despite its extraordinary size, the $62 trillion credit default swap market was essentially unregulated.)
"This was a crisis made in the U.S." (Referring to the suggestion that China's export policies played a key role in creating the credit bubble.)

Niall Ferguson, Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History, Harvard University, William Ziegler Professor of Business Administration, Harvard Business School:

"We are living though a gradual shift away from a dollar-centric system."
"Is China the Germany of our time?" (Referring to the combination of economic dynamism and growing nationalism that stoked the aggressive ambitions of Nazi Germany.)
"The problem of being a declining empire doesn't have a solution." (Referring to the suggestion that a great many, if not all, of America's problems are fixable.)

Robert J. Shiller, Arthur M. Okun Professor of Economics, Yale University:

"Look up 'bubble' in an economic textbook and it's not there." (Referring to the shortcomings of the traditional economic curriculum.).
People "are living in a 'pretend-and-extend' environment, waiting for the economy to recover." (Referring to the precarious state of the commercial real estate market and the wave of resets coming due between 2011 and 2013.)

Elizabeth Warren, Chair, TARP Congressional Oversight Panel:

"The reason banks lost confidence in each other is because they looked at their own books." (Referring to the loss of confidence that roiled markets during the darkest days of the crisis.)
 
 

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I just got back from The Economist's "Buttonwood Gathering" in New York and thought I'd share a few of the more interesting (and, in some cases, quite enlightening) quotes (in no particular order) fro...
I just got back from The Economist's "Buttonwood Gathering" in New York and thought I'd share a few of the more interesting (and, in some cases, quite enlightening) quotes (in no particular order) fro...
 
 
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11:17 AM on 10/19/2009
I find their comments somewhat encouraging as they seem to "get it". But I wonder how many comments where made that I would find disturbing....
yappnmutt
humping legs for liberty
04:05 AM on 10/18/2009
in response to the quotes dealing with a failing empire i would posit that the world should fear the empire that is expiring as they tend to act irrationally when trying to resurrect the good old days. the result is to the detriment of world peace and many human lives.
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Robert Cantor
I am a human being descended from an exclusive gro
02:38 AM on 10/19/2009
faltering republics become empires. if anyone is wary of imperial America they aint seen nothing yet.
blogisti
Approved Knowledge Only
10:37 PM on 10/17/2009
My dream is that Obama understands that the 'too big to fail banks' are insolvent but hiding it. In the new year after Health Care is passed he will deal with them. The country has watched their greed increase as the country sinks deeper into recession.
By the spring, the economy will need another boost. The banks will have to reveal their toxic waste and beg for more money. Then Obama, in disgust, nationalizes these investment banks and the people cheer.
We finally begin to deal with the real problem, insolvent, dependent, leeching banks.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
08:54 PM on 10/17/2009
They still like us to believe with all their crooked ways they did not know what the outcome would be.
I don't buy it. A good manager knows when he/she takes risks and learns from it but this went on over 10 years. Now we have the same situation with the oil and gas. Nothing they told us why it shot up in price before can now be substantiated, all were lies, not enough refineries, they are closing them by the handfuls now, peak oil, China needed the oil, etc. Do you see our leaders in Washington stepping in, no, they are bribed by the oil company and they are probably invested in it, well, Pelosi's husband is.
How rich can they get before they realize enough is enough?
04:30 PM on 10/17/2009
Now if only most of those bozos, (Soros being the exception) would have listened to progressives who warned about deregulation back in the 89 and 90's. But we were just "fools", "socialists", "gloom and doomers", and "inhibitors of economic prosperity".

Much like the Iraq war we progressives prefer being listened to, not being proven right.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
12:07 PM on 10/18/2009
Deregulation was what the IMF forced on the third world countries so that the US banks could make ooodles of money until the populace was starving,,,,Then the US government bailed out the BANKS for the developing countries. defauling on debt SO THEN ..Why should we be surprised that these same crooks turned on their own country...AFTER ALL, the rulling family told us it was Patriotic to eat our own....
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iamjones
01:19 PM on 10/19/2009
"Much like the Iraq war we progressives prefer being listened to, not being proven right."

Yes Yes Yes!
03:32 PM on 10/17/2009
The Bush administration was more interested in passing a Federal Marriage Amendment than in regulating derivatives. Now we are all paying the price.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
12:08 PM on 10/18/2009
They did not care a hoot in heck about that, it was all smoke and mirrors WHILE BUSH PULLED OFF THE BIGGEST tax cut for the top 1% and then made them exempt from IRS audits.....
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terramartom
People for the people. Revolution.
03:30 PM on 10/17/2009
Ponzie scheme crooks, all of them.
Put them in prison, confiscate their stolen and illegal wealth as well.
01:19 PM on 10/17/2009
When you quote our leaders like this, it makes them sound self-aware and competent. Maybe there is hope.
The Pax Americana was hated, but I think it will be missed too.
iridium53
Semper Fi
01:15 PM on 10/17/2009
Larry Summers says, "It is not the administration's view to bribe those who have been part of the problems we have experienced to do what is in the national interest."

Really?
So "the administration's" approach is to just give them money directly to do what is in the bankers interest - TARP II, the so-called Credit Card legislation, and the Fed's trillion - and totally ignore the public interest. That's just outstanding.

Summers seems to acknowledge that the WH has some minor recognition that the Main Street sentiment is different from Wall Street's. Nice. It's just that Obama's WH has done little about it, while "the administration" gave a trillion to Wall Street.

We can measure their priorities from their actions - trillions to Wall Street (supposedly hoping for some kind of Laffer trickle-down) and almost nothing to Main Street.. Corporatism at its very best.