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The Hard Fall of the Arab Spring

Posted: 11/16/2011 9:24 pm

After decades in power, a brutal dictator in a Muslim country is dramatically deposed by a massive popular uprising. Sound familiar? Of course: that's what happened in Egypt and Libya this year, as part of what's known as the Arab Spring. But it's also what happened in Iran in 1979 -- and that should make us pause for a moment.

It's easy to cheer for democratic change and celebrate the downfall of tyrants like Egypt's Hosni Mubarak and Libya's Muammar Gaddafi. But what if the end of one kind of oppression brings about the rise of another? As history has shown us time and again, revolutions are often turns for the worse.

Gay people should be especially wary when the forces of religious fundamentalism are involved. And nowhere are those forces stronger today than in the Muslim world. The power behind the Arab Spring came in large part from the coiled energy of Islamic groups that had been suppressed by secular dictatorships; as the old regimes crumble, hard-core Islamists are eager to take their place.

If the past is any guide, that's bad news for gays in the Muslim world. Consider Iran. Under the Shah, Tehran had room for gay nightclubs and artists. That tolerance ended when the ayatollahs took over in the Islamic revolution of 1979 and instituted a fundamentalist form of Quranic law, or Shariah, under which gay sex is punishable by death. (Three Iranian men were hanged for sodomy in September, and hundreds of others have reportedly been executed for gay-related offenses.)

Or consider the explosion of anti-gay violence that followed the end of Saddam Hussein's secular regime in Iraq. The powerful cleric Ali al-Sistani, who had been kept in check by Saddam, issued a 2005 fatwa calling for gay men and lesbians to be killed "in the worst, most severe way of killing." In recent years, according to human-rights groups, scores of Iraqi gays have been abducted and murdered -- often through gruesome torture and mutilation -- by sectarian death squads and even by members of their own families (in so-called "honor killings").

Iraqi authorities have mostly turned a blind eye to this "sexual cleansing." Should we be surprised? After all, Shariah is now officially the law of the land. The 2005 Iraqi constitution includes talk about equal rights for all citizens, but its Article 2 calls Islam "the official religion of the State" and says that "no law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established."

Whether by law (in Iran) or by acceptance of lawlessness (in Iraq), the increased power of Islam in daily life has been a disaster for Muslim gays. Will things be different in the Arab Spring countries?

We have reason to worry. Egypt's constitution also has an Article 2, which says the same thing as Iraq's, that "Islam is the religion of the state," and that "the principal source of legislation is Shariah." Egyptian voters had the chance to change that language in a March referendum, but they chose to keep it.

Mubarak was no friend to gay Egyptians, and in the past decade his government stepped up its persecution. But as the Egyptian-born LGBT scholar Hassan El Menyawi has pointed out, this policy was largely motivated by Mubarek's desire to "shore up [his] Islamic credentials" with a radicalized Egyptian population that was happy to see gays targeted.

A Pew Research Center poll last year found that 82 percent of Egyptian Muslims support stoning people who commit adultery, and 84 percent support the death penalty for Muslims who leave the religion. It's not hard to imagine the same group's attitudes toward homosexuality. Any government that results from Egypt's planned 2012 elections is sure to reflect the country's widespread religious conservatism.

In Libya, as well, the future will almost certainly be less rosy than we'd like. Last month, the world's jubilation at the death of Gaddafi turned sour when graphic evidence emerged of the mob's savagery toward the captured leader. (One video shows Gaddafi being sodomized with a stick.) Libyan liberals, and Western ones, were further disturbed a week later when the head of the transitional government suggested that polygamy should be legalized, in line with Shariah.

Optimists say that the practical concerns of democracy -- getting elected, building coalitions -- will keep radical Islam in check. I think they're being deeply naïve. The expectations raised by the Arab Spring will be hard to live up to; soon, the new governments will start looking for scapegoats and distractions. Gays have always played those roles too well.

By supporting the revolutions in Egypt and Libya, the West has meddled where it didn't belong and unleashed the beast of fundamentalism in those countries, just as it did in Iraq. It's only a matter of time until that beast starts to bite. And when the tyranny of the religious majority starts trampling on sexual minorities -- not to mention women and non-Muslims -- the world's pride in the Arab Spring will turn out to have gone before a very long, very hard fall.

 
After decades in power, a brutal dictator in a Muslim country is dramatically deposed by a massive popular uprising. Sound familiar? Of course: that's what happened in Egypt and Libya this year, as pa...
After decades in power, a brutal dictator in a Muslim country is dramatically deposed by a massive popular uprising. Sound familiar? Of course: that's what happened in Egypt and Libya this year, as pa...
 
 
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01:16 PM on 11/19/2011
I would have called this the Arab Winter. What is interesting to me are the parallels between the way gays are treated in the Arab World and the way many liberal gays march around acting as if Israel is an evil entity where gays have similar worries. During the debate over the anti-Israel; anti-Semitic meetings in the NYC gay center we learned, pretty conclusively, that people don't know how the Middle East treat gays for anybody that thinks Israel is evil to gays knows nothing about the way gays are treated across the region. Israel, and all countries have faults, treats gays with liberty and respect, in Iran, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Kuwait, Bahrain, etc., gays are fearful of how they will be treated if they get caught, still, gay liberals act as if there is some equilibrium between gay treatment in the Arab World and the way gays are treated in Israel. When you see gay men and women dangling from a rope or being stone to the cheers of the crowds, don't act like you didn't help it happen. Egging on by this Administration brought tyranny to a place where gays may not have paraded down the streets, but were generally safe. It's not that way now, after the so-called Spring, and will likely not be that way again.
03:03 AM on 11/18/2011
[third and final portion of comment, with 2 other portions posted below] Basically, we need a historical background to LGBT issues in the Muslim world. We need to expand our thinking and avoid simplistic statements like "...the increased power of Islam in daily life has been a disaster for Muslim gays." Which Islam, and whose Islam?

By privileging the "Islam" of the extremist homophobes, we are ignoring the millions of LGBT Muslims who proudly identify as both Muslim and LGBT, and we are also ignoring the global Islamic movement for LGBT equality - a movement that, similar to Islamic feminism, is reading the Islamic holy texts without a patriarchal and heteronormative lens and not reading it literally, and instead interpreting it in a "contextualist" manner that appreciates the socio-historical context in which the Qur'an was revealed to humanity.

Let's not forget those progressive Muslims and LGBT Muslims who are deeply religious but also affirming of LGBT equality, just as there are pro-LGBT and also religious Christians and Jews. They deserve our efforts in understanding and supporting them, particularly in their quest for equality amidst the Arab people's current struggle for democracy, social and economic justice, and freedom.
03:03 AM on 11/18/2011
[second half of previous comment] Let's not forget the role that Western Europe and the United States have played in not only colonizing the Muslim world, but in supporting dictatorships and overthrowing democratically elected governments (like in Iran; this Michael Lucas person mentioned Iran under the Shah - but before the CIA installed the repressive dictatorship of the Shah, Iran had a democratically elected government under President Mossadegh, who had nationalized Iran's oil resources so that the Iranian people could benefit from Iran's oil wealth, rather than British and American corporations, so the US government decided he needed to be overthrown).

Back in the 1950s to around the 1970s, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, and Afghanistan had been making many important advances in women's rights and democracy. But the US government overthrew Iran's democracy in 1953, supported Saddam Hussein's dictatorship in the 80s (then turned against him in the 90s), supported Mubarak's dictatorship in Egypt up until its demise in 2011, and supported the extremist Mujahideen movement of Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan which spawned al-Qaeda and the Taliban. The West's colonialist and imperialist activities in Muslim countries, its support for brutal dictatorships, and the United States' horrific wars in the Middle East, have all strongly contributed to the rise of fundamentalism in the Muslim world. [end of comment above]
02:57 AM on 11/18/2011
During the Medieval period, many Muslim societies - from North Africa and the Middle East to South Asia, Southeast Asia, and West Africa - tolerated (and in some cases even celebrated) homosexual relationships and transgenderism. Many European men who visited the Arab world were shocked at the openness of homosexual romances between Arab men.

European Christian fundamentalists and imperialists brought many of their homophobic and heteronormative beliefs to the brown and black people they colonized (not to mention racism, imperialist economic exploitation, genocide, etc.).

The only religious texts on Earth that have verses that have been used by modern homophobes as an excuse to discriminate against and persecute homosexuals are the Bible and the Qur'an. The three Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) have textual and legal traditions that have been used against homosexuals. But again, homosexual relationships were tolerated or accepted and even celebrated historically in many Muslim societies - despite the existence of certain homophobic laws (which were often ignored). The first region on Earth where homophobia became strongly rooted was the West; it then took root in other societies once the West began engaging in its colonial and imperial expansionism in Asia, Africa, the Americas, and the Pacific Islands 500 years ago. [comment continued above]
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10:38 AM on 11/18/2011
"During the Medieval period, many Muslim societies... tolerated... homosexual relationsh­ips and transgende­rism. "

No longer.
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03:09 PM on 11/17/2011
Never is the old adage, "Don't it always seem go you don't know what you've got till it's gone." truer than in the Muslim world.
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01:40 PM on 11/17/2011
Perhaps the answer is to think outside the "gay Boxs" and consider the power that Arab WOMEN would have if they are given equal oppertunities to vote and serve in Government. Sure they would hve their Michelle Bachmanns, but over all I think women would have a moderating efffect on the harshest abuses of Islamic Fundamentalisim.
The UN shoud Assure women the vote and the ability to fully participate in Arab Society for a change. Look what it did for The United States - women have had the right to vote for less than a hundred years in America and sice that tim things have gotten progressivey better for ALL minorities more rapidly than in the previous 150.
The biggest problem with Arab Culture is that MEN run everything.
01:21 PM on 11/17/2011
"As history has shown us time and again, revolutions are often turns for the worse."
Dear Mr. Lucas, perhaps you are not very familiar with your adopted country's history, but it was a "revolution" the action that gave birth to this nation. Moreover, in the 19th Century, it was a "revolution" - of sorts - the one that kept the country together in the midst of the slavery controversy. In the 20th Century, it was a "revolution" the one that opened the doors for millions of Americans to actively participate in the political process and social transformation of the country. I understand your concerns for the safety of your nation of Israel, and I share those too. But do not be too quick to dismiss the truth of people's revolutions in bringing changes that actually open the doors for more participation in the political processes of the nations.
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10:54 AM on 11/17/2011
"Optimists say that the practical concerns of democracy -- getting elected, building coalitions -- will keep radical Islam in check. I think they're being deeply naïve."

You're absolutely right. If elections in other arab, muslim and ME countries have shown us anything (see palestine), it's that once any group gains power, they will never hold elections again, for fear that they might lose that power. Eelctions in palestine are nearly 2 years overdue - don't count on seeing them again any time soon. In the mean time, gay and lesbian palestinians continue to flee into israel, risking their lives in the process, because it's safer for them there, than in the palestinian territories where their own families try to kill them with governmental permission.
09:36 AM on 11/17/2011
I'm not quite sure what is being argued for here. Lucas is attacking people as naive for supporting the overthrown of dictators in the arab world. Is Lucas saying we should have tried to keep dictators in power, the approach we took in Iran before 1979. As he notes that did not work out well. In fact Western support for dictators seems to be a major factor in building the support for extremist Islam. Turkey is a reasonable model for democracy in a Muslim country, and not surprisingly it does not produce the same effect. Tunisia also produced a win by a religious party, but none of the extremism, at least so far, as in places coming out of more repression.

If you want to know what is really naive, it is thinking that the problem of radical Islam can be solved indefinitely by keeping dictators in power in the middle east.
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Marcus047
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10:58 AM on 11/17/2011
Lucas is calling naive people who think that what will replace the dictatorship will be anything resembling a democracy or freedom or respect for human rights. He's also saying that we in the west shouldn't get involved in removing one middle eastern tyrant, only to see him replace by something far worse.

And turkey, though it is not reported on HP, has an atrocious human rights record - including persecution of minorities, including the gay and lesbian community, more journalists in prison than even communist china, etc. Turkey is only a model for the muslim world in that it is the best of a very bad lot.
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01:47 PM on 11/17/2011
The only reason most Americans have a rosey perception of Turkey is US Government propaganda. The Governmeent spins Turekeys human rights violations because thye allow us to maintain a military presence there.
09:04 AM on 11/17/2011
So while democracy may be great for us, Muslim countries are better off with dictatorships? The bias behind this is astounding - and is proved by the choice of examples. Why mention Iran as THE example of democracy instead of Turkey or Lebanon? Why mention the Shah as THE example of dictatorship instead of Saudi Arabia? Because the conclusion - that Muslims are not ready for democracy - was there before the argument, and the argument was built, and the examples were chosen, to support the conclusion.

What does it mean if under the Shah and Saddam, well-connected gays could dance in nightclubs while dissidents were being tortured? Neither the Iranian revolution nor the Iraqi occupation has ever been held up in the Arab Spring as an example to follow. The countries they want to emulate are Turkey, Lebanon...

And of course democracy sometimes means the majority will crush the minority - it was that way in America, too, from a native Indian point of view, so let's not pretend this is an Arab exception. Democracy, alas, does not guarantee tolerance - although with time it can help to build it. But anyone who thinks that dictatorship does a better job, at least in the short term, should visit a Saudi Arabian jail. Homosexuality carries the death sentence there. While in democratic Turkey it is not only tolerated but legal.
09:38 AM on 11/17/2011
fanned again HansB . . . great blog
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Marcus047
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11:02 AM on 11/17/2011
"So while democracy may be great for us, Muslim countries are better off with dictatorsh­ips?"

When what they call democracy is anything but, Yes. True democracy includes protections for minorities. What muslim or arab democracy has and enforces laws protecting minorities? Turkey has these laws and it ignores them all the time, imprisoning minorities, assaulting them, banning non-profits that work with them and help them. This is not democracy, just tyranny pretending to be democracy. In lebanon, it is too dangerous for christians to travel to or through muslim areas of the country, even in beirut. Most christian lebanese, when they want to visit Tyre, have to travel there by plane or boat, because traveling there by car or bus is too dangerous for them.
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09:04 AM on 11/17/2011
I remember it wasn't so long ago when anyone who was even the slightest bit unsure that these uprisings would lead to anything other than happiness and rainbows was immediately called a "racist" and "imperialist."
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09:16 AM on 11/17/2011
Which uprisings? the American war of Independence? The French Revolution?
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Gui Montag
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09:29 AM on 11/17/2011
The Arab uprisings in the early 21st century.
09:39 AM on 11/17/2011
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MarcEdward
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09:30 AM on 11/17/2011
And those calls were correct.
To assume that Egyptians are JUST LIKE Iranians is certainly racist.
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09:58 AM on 11/17/2011
Those calls were not correct because no one say that "Egyptians are just like Iranians." You're strawmanning.

The calls were that "oh these revolutions may not necessarily lead to free, secular, stable democracy." And they were immediately shouted down.
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Marcus047
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11:05 AM on 11/17/2011
No, in many ways they're worse. The Iranian population was prior to the revolution largely western oriented and secular, unlike the egyptians. If the Iranians could fall so far from so high, just image the depths to which the egyptians can fall, with their head start.
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09:02 AM on 11/17/2011
"It's easy to cheer for democratic change and celebrate the downfall of tyrants like Egypt's Hosni Mubarak and Libya's Muammar Gaddafi. "

It sure is. I suppose its harder to cheer for the downfall of the Iranian Tyrant, the Shah, since we put him there. Remind me why "we" HATE Iran again? Oh yeah - GUILTY CONSCIENCE
09:41 AM on 11/17/2011
ditto . . . yes, America was working to ensure Anglo British petroleum could continue to exploit Iranian labour . . . . so the CIA was called in . . and I seem to remember there was also the RED fear .. communism . . JF Dulles was worried about Iran going commie . . . . . . same old crap Wisdo . . and the guilty conscience . . . that is behind all israel's fears . . . as well as the inability to take responsiblity for its actions
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04:16 PM on 11/17/2011
Why do Americans hate Iran? Takeover of the US Embassy and keeping 52 American citizens hostage for 444 days. Trust me. I know.
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08:31 AM on 11/17/2011
Figure it wouldn't take long for anti-Israel comments to appear in regard to an article that has nothing to do with Israel but simply discusses the facts that GLBTcommunty should be concerned with regards to the Arab spring. You can compare how the GLBT communities are treated in Israel and the US to those treated in Arab and Muslim countries, and there is no comparision. Where Why not admit that the treatment and attitudes towards this community is wrong and hopefully, the new leadership will address it. No, instead, properstatus says mind your own business and macready tries to divert attention to the issue.

Here is a link about life of GLBT people who live in the Middle East. http://gaymiddleeast.com/
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09:31 AM on 11/17/2011
Blah, blah, blah.
Don't worry, Conservative Israelis certainly have their eyes on solving the gay rights problem.
02:42 PM on 11/17/2011
MarcEdward simply hates Israel, period. The draconian mistreatment of gays, women, non Muslims on the part of Palestinians or other Arabs is not a topic to be addressed. Only the despised Jews of Israel are in his sites. Please do not confuse him with the facts.
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08:23 AM on 11/17/2011
"If the past is any guide, that's bad news for gays in the Muslim world. Consider Iran."

How about we NOT consider Iran?
Why is Iran the only possible example that can be "a guide"? Because it's the easiest?
Does the writer think that Egyptians are idiots, that they cannot see what a mess Iran is? Does he presume that only Westerners from the other side of the planet can see Iran, while people much closer cannot?
Why presume these situations are alike at all? Iran and Egypt have
- different religions (Sunni, not Shia)
- different languages
- different ethnicities
- different histories going back thousands of years
I mean, it's like saying "Well look how badly democracy works in Italy, it cannot possible work in England". Somebody ought to tell him that merely sharing the trappings of religion doesn't make two cultures identical. Really, very simple minded thinking.
03:18 PM on 11/17/2011
Michael was talking about only gay rights: these countries share the same deadly hate towards homosexuals.
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03:55 PM on 11/17/2011
As does much of South America, the Catholic Church, the American Christian right, the Republican party, etc.
06:19 AM on 11/17/2011
I support gay rights . . but you are going about this all the wrong way . . . Ask Don't Tell was only just passed in the US . . . and women still earn less money than men . . . and well why don't you look at israel . . . . it is no gay safe haven . . when ultra-orthodox rabbis tear the heads off female models in ads . . . sorry . . . .stop denegrating the Arab Spring . . it is new . . . look at what is happening in both the US and israel vis a vis intolerance . . . . and inequality . . . before you start pointing a finger at Muslim countries
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08:26 AM on 11/17/2011
Well put!
Only  a few years ago you could be jailed in the USA for being gay or having gay sex, and most Americans supported laws against gays. Why does he think that countries trying to form governments under the threat of a renewed military dictatorship MUST put GAY RIGHTS at the top of their agenda? The "enlightened West" has only recently embraced gay rights, it's not like we have been good towards gays (or women, or blacks, or Jews) for hundreds of years!
08:56 AM on 11/17/2011
Maybe it would be in everyone´s favor if the new governments and the basis of the legal system would be secular and not based on some inherently oppressive ancient rules that are seen as unchangeable. As for intolerance, the violent intolerance seen in so many Muslim majority countries is truly unrivaled in this world. At least in the "enlightened West" everyone´s rights are protected, not so much under Sharia. Some of you so called liberals are more than willing to close your eyes when it comes to in my opinion the biggest threat to liberal values, Islam as it is practiced in this world.
09:10 AM on 11/17/2011
thank you . . ditto MarcEdward
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11:34 AM on 11/17/2011
Sorry, but there's more tolerance and acceptance at law and in general society for gays in Israel than there is in most of the US.
And certainly a world more than there is in any Muslim country, including relatively secular Turkey.