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Mitt Didn't Build That

Posted: 10/01/2012 1:41 pm

Nothing makes the 1 percent angrier than any suggestion that anyone else helped them acquire their beautiful, beautiful cash.

So I was a little surprised to find out from the New Yorker magazine this week that one of Bain Capital's very first deals was buying "a small airline that ran military shuttles between Tonopah, Nevada and Las Vegas."

Here are the details, from the Financial Times:

In the mid-1980s Tonopah, also known as Area 52, was home to the newly developed, top secret F-117A stealth fighter. Pilots and support personnel lived in Las Vegas and spent their working week in the desert.

A $10m-a-year contract to shuttle them back and forth was the prize asset of a small charter company called Key Airlines, which became a formative deal for Bain Capital…

So from the start, Bain Capital had support from the government. We all built that. Just don't ever mention that in public, or come around asking Mitt and his billionaire friends to kick in a little more so your aunt can pay for her breast cancer treatment or your 5-year-old can have a good kindergarten teacher. That would make them very angry, and you wouldn't like them when they're angry.

P.S. A federal judge ruled in 1992 that Key Airline management had illegally suppressed a 1985 attempt by its pilots to unionize. According to the pilots, they had to form a union to stop unsafe conditions; according to Bain, they were just pissed off with their "admittedly low" salaries.

Of course, if you owned a company and were being paid a lot of money by your fellow citizens to fly stealth fighter pilots to work, you might not care what the reason was -- you might be happy to improve safety OR pay your employees more. Or even both! But that's why, unlike Mitt Romney, you're not worth 230 million dollars.

 

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11:58 AM on 10/11/2012
Hey Michael, where did the government get that money? Oh yes from private industry workers and companies. So that bridge the government claims they build, they didn't do that, the private industry did throught he tax money collected from the income they built. Private commerce has existed for 1000's of years, and before modern government so for government to claim it would not exist without government support of patently false. The governments ability to provide services at all is a result of private commerce. So private commerce gave the government the funds to do that. So Obama your welcome for providing you those funds, and guess what "We built the government"
09:25 PM on 10/07/2012
Michael Moore and they guy that threw his shoes at Bush - my heroes
08:33 PM on 10/07/2012
Stop smoking weed Michael!! You are making less sense than usual, which was a pretty low bar to begin with. If you think government is so great why don't you let them take charge of Hollywood Studios?? Maybe they should be in charge of movie ratings instead of motion picture associations, one of the best funded lobby groups!!!
07:17 PM on 10/07/2012
Sounds more like the govt was a customer, not a bai-outer, like Solyndra.
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04:28 PM on 10/07/2012
"Nothing makes the 1 percent angrier than any suggestion that anyone else helped them acquire their beautiful, beautiful cash."

That's right, Mr. Michael 1%-er Moore. You became rich by distrubuting your propaganda and convinced susceptible minds to actually pay for it.
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anon004
Yes, it's true -- reality has a liberal bias
08:22 PM on 10/07/2012
Bet he's paying more than 14% in taxes, like Mitt. And I also bet he wouldn't whine about not getting enough respect from the people who he screwed by outsourcing their jobs, and he's also not claiming he did it all by himself. Try to address the actual points in the article
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09:56 PM on 10/07/2012
Do you know that you pay much less for products (generally) that are made in other countries? Outsourcing has been occurring for thousands of years, but now, all of a sudden, a certain political party has a problem with that.  If you didn't notice, Mitt paid  nearly $2M in taxes and also donated $4M to charity and to church last year alone. And Mitt doesn't make a career of putting people down just because he doesn't like their political views (as Michael Moore does every time he shows his mug in public).
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truthsayer4ever
Veritas In Caritate
11:09 PM on 10/07/2012
Thank you. I find myself muttering terrible words after I read posts like the one you commented on. Thank you for finding my words!
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anon004
Yes, it's true -- reality has a liberal bias
04:37 PM on 10/11/2012
“I think that Mr. Romney gets some of his money from "average citizens" and Obama gets some from the "super rich" (like Buffett?)"

"The president’s campaign announced on Twitter on Monday morning that his July fund-raising topped out at about $75 million. “Every bit helps,” the campaign tweeted, noting that 98 percent of the contributions were under $250."

"Roughly a quarter of the Republicans’ haul, $25.7 million, came in donations of under $250,"

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/06/romney-committees-raised-more-than-100-million-in-july/

Obama has the obviously better track record of getting donations form average citizens, and if money talks in politics (and it does), he's much more likely to be looking out for the average citizen than Mitt. Especially since Mitt's already written off 47% of the population.
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08:00 PM on 10/11/2012
So what? But what do you have to say about Moore (which is what my comment was about)?
03:44 PM on 10/07/2012
So because Romney's companies took free money when the government offered it and occasionally dealt with government agencies, he didn't build his company?

Again, when I was a kid, I didn't drive myself to school. But I still got credit for my grades. Michael Moore's become more of a joke daily.
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anon004
Yes, it's true -- reality has a liberal bias
08:22 PM on 10/07/2012
Michael Moore didn't say Romney shouldn't get any credit, he said Romney shouldn't get all the credit. I'll bet your reading comprehension grades weren't your best.

Oh, and if the taxpayers hadn't paid for your school system, you wouldn't have had any grades at all.
10:20 PM on 10/07/2012
Private school? See, that's the problem with liberal thinking. You absolutely believe that if the government doesn't provide something that it currently provides, it's impossible for people to have it.

The bus driver gets next to no credit. He's not even mentioned. The government has done nothing valuable for me, why should I give it credit for my success?
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ginadeoliveira2008
Seen a shooting star tonight and I thought of you
09:49 PM on 10/07/2012
Put your brain to work, it won't hurt! Mitt didn't build that without government to help him at that point smarty pantas!
10:21 PM on 10/07/2012
Okay let's do it like this. How much credit would you give to the government for Mitt's private sector success? Give me a percentage...
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JTNealinDC
03:40 PM on 10/07/2012
Selling a product or service to the government at a market price and on market terms is not 'getting help from the government.'
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anon004
Yes, it's true -- reality has a liberal bias
08:30 PM on 10/07/2012
No, it's just having the government create your market for you.
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JTNealinDC
11:56 PM on 10/07/2012
That's the way a 4th grader would see it, yes.  A thinking person would undersand that for the government to make anything it has to employ a company to manufacture it.  No one at Bain or remotely affiliated with the Romney campaign has suggested that the government should never buy anything from a private company, since that would entail shutting down ALL government functions.
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Ronny0303
03:02 PM on 10/07/2012
So what is your point?
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04:29 PM on 10/07/2012
He has no point. Publicity and the almight dollar$ are what impress Mr. Moore, the one-percenter.
02:54 PM on 10/07/2012
You have more money than Romney you hypocrite. How much have you given to charity?
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SirGigglehead
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08:49 AM on 10/08/2012
You honestly believe that Michael Moore has more money than Romney? Do you have some citation that would corroborate that?

With your attitude, it's obvious that you're one of those who wants to punish success. Not very Romney-like, now are you?
professor
Correkt the Spelling and Pick on the Moniker
02:13 PM on 10/07/2012
Romney is not "hard-working" and "smart." O, wait a minute. Yes, he is "hard-working" and "smart" compared with the average American. Otherwise, he is very lazy and dmb.

All he did was the sausage trick at Bain. Buy a good company, wreck it, rake off the excess before anybody gets wise.
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shamanbart
11:51 AM on 10/07/2012
It seems to me that the whole argument behind "You did or didn't build that" is really about the validity of the progressive tax -- i.e., higher earners paying a higher percentage than lower earners. The idea was introduced a 100 or so years ago, yet we are revisiting the reasons today.

The progressive tax is justified because of our economic system. Whether you're a corporate CEO or an actor or a writer or an inventor, the system only works when we have a working legal system, working methods of exchange, and customers who can buy things. All of these require monetary support. Regardless of whether you depend on 10000 employees to help generate the wealth, or just your self, without paying customers, legal enforcement, a healthy economic system, etc., your wealth would not be possible. Therefore, if you were able/lucky enough to receive $15 Million rather than $ 75K, it wasn't possible without the system working. Since you benefitted by making the extra $ 14 Million, you need to pay a higher percentage. That's it.

What that % is, is another debate, but the progressive tax should not be in question.
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10:34 AM on 10/07/2012
One group that gets left out of the discussion over who built a company is the workers themselves. Infrastructure and an educated workforce is important, Management and the investors who create the jobs are also vital, but the toil and labor of the workers themselves are just as vital.
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ckdogs
Veritas
10:10 AM on 10/07/2012
I would love to see a side by side analysis of the costs of corporate welfare versus "regular" welfare.
12:52 PM on 10/07/2012
It is about $37 to the wealthy for every $1 to the poor....and that is not even counting the trusts (medicare and social security).
02:09 PM on 10/07/2012
There is no such thing as corporate welfare. All corporations pay government whereas "regulars" take the money corporation gave to the government. But wait, I forgot aboutObama's green jobs welfare. your right he gave billions to companies that either took the money and closed shop or moved jobs overseas.
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montn2
The poor man's son fights the rich man's war.
04:58 PM on 10/07/2012
The green corporations you refer to started getting loans during W's administration....another inherited fiasco. Small detail.
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MartinEden
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08:05 PM on 10/07/2012
What do you mean there is no such thing as corporate welfare? Of course, there's corporate welfare!--in the form of subsidies and tax loopholes and many other fiscal-legal instruments. Where on earth did you get such a preposterous idea?
05:55 AM on 10/07/2012
I really like Mike for who he is and what he does

But there is a next level Democrats have to attain orthey
willalways be slackers and shrugged off as the 47% or
whatever.Democrats talk big, but they don't
work together and they don't followup and progress.

They get to good enough then relax and forget the
whole things some even become Repulblicans.ARGH!!!!

Kennedy said ask what you can do
for your country. I am for a solid socially just&equitable
society, to get to that isn't just all about waving our
hands and saying MAKE IT SO-RICH DUDES! I understand
why the rich complain about that,
NOT THAT I AGREE WITH THEIR WHINING,there is
some truth to it.

We all have to realize that soon we will approach
a wall at 1000MPH global warning&expensive energy,less
water, and even if we get all of that
sorted out we are pretty much killing the environment, and
the results of our actions are working themselves out for
a hundred years.

Liberals talk about they hate nuclear waste because it is
around for so long, but the results of everything we do
is also around for just as long - as least as far as our
own and our kids' lives are. we have to get serious.

We need to think of solutions and make a system that
peolpe can understand -that is the problem, the country
and life are too complex for peolpe and it is driving them
crazy.
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pyro
12:31 PM on 10/07/2012
We all have to realize that soon we will approach
a wall at 1000MPH global warning&expensive energy,less
water, and even if we get all of that
sorted out we are pretty much killing the environment, and
the results of our actions are working themselves out for
a hundred years.

Oh yea, global climate change, automation, peak oil, environmental degradation, overpopulation, we are in middle of the greatest extinction event since the dino's, we are headed for a massive de-population. But it may be more of two centruy long decline than an "event" or a crash. In the LONG picture, for history---it may look like a crash. but really, gradually, life for man is going to suck more and more. I don't believe there will be an answer. Just survival. For the lucky. In a way, this little rock probably IS going to hell. I'm 60 and wont be around to see it, but I'm very sad for mankind children. NO way out. Gov COULD make the slide into distopia more comfortable for many, but they probably wont.
05:21 PM on 10/07/2012
> But it may be ...

Sounds like you are counting on something you cannot prove. All the evidence points to things accelerating, like for example the arctic ice melting. If you are 60 you were part of the problem, and now you are just glad you'll be gone.
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DJPotterWriter
03:45 AM on 10/07/2012
It's funny how upset so many people (of whatever political persuasion) get over words. Hardly anyone cares about policy.
03:58 AM on 10/07/2012
I don't understand what you mean -- words affect everyone, being how we communicate and all...
Isn't policy just a bunch of words?
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DJPotterWriter
05:00 AM on 10/07/2012
The difference between words and policy is the difference between talking about tax and levying a tax, or between talking about execution and actually executing a person.