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Posted: February 12, 2010 11:16 AM

Education: From Condescension to Respect

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This week political science professor Gerard Alexander hit a chord (or was it a nerve?) with his Washington Post essay on "why liberals are so condescending." Despite the recent successes of the Tea Party movement, Scott Brown, and a filibuster-happy Senate, Alexander repeats the old refrain: We conservatives get no respect. Rather than enjoy the intellectual disarray of the Left, Alexander seems to long for recognition from his liberal colleagues: You liberals think you have all the answers, and you never listen to us conservative voices, no matter how much education we have! Although many have recognized that the conservative movement did become "the party of ideas," Alexander complains, liberals still see the Right as mired in false consciousness, hypocrisy, or both. What's a faculty member got to do to earn some credibility? Publishing a provocative lecture for the American Enterprise Institute in the Washington Post isn't a bad start.

But is the Left really more condescending than the Right? When Sarah Palin mocks Obama's supporters with "How's that hope, change thing working out for yaw?" is that not a form of condescension? Palin's populist condescension toward those who don't live in "the real America" pales before the patrician variety famously mastered by William F. Buckley. Woe to the liberals who carelessly strayed into his firing line. Two examples can stand for dozens of great zingers: "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said," Buckley sneered. "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views," he observed, "but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." Alexander cites Paul Krugman as a prime offender of looking down his nose at conservatives, but why is this any different than Chicago-school economist Eugene Fama saying "My attitude is this, if you are getting attacked by Paul Krugman, you must be doing something right"?

No, liberals have no monopoly on condescension or intellectual and social smugness. Mocking people who drive Priuses (it used to be Volvos) is just as common as sneering at people in supersized pickups. But there does seem to be an easy association between elitism and progressivism that conservatives are able to reactivate at the drop of a hat. Why do we jump at the accusation? Is it because condescension is indeed a temptation for a politics that depends so much on education and on faith in the powers of knowledge?

Liberals prize education - valuing it as a vehicle toward a more just and hospitable world. Education means enlightenment, which Kant famously defined as "freedom from self-imposed immaturity." Confidence in the power of education can lead to arrogance because people in the know feel that they ought to be able to fix things. As people pursue education, they often feel that they are leaving false beliefs behind, that they are becoming freer as their illusions and dependence are dissolved. As this happens, many look around and see others who haven't yet shed their old ways of thinking and are still mired in falsehood or reliance on authority. "I used to think like that, too," says the advanced student to the frosh, "but now I know better." This is what Eric Voegeli was getting at when he wrote last year's version of the condescension essay, "The Roots of Liberal Condescension," published in the Claremont Review of Books (and found on the Wall Street Journal online. "Thus, if patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel," he wrote, "snobbery is the last refuge of the liberal-arts major."

Does education necessarily breed elitism and condescension, and does it necessarily give rise to political liberalism? A little education very well might promote the intellectual arrogance many conservatives see in their caricature of a professor on the Left, but liberal learning is, after all, supposed to make us aware of how little we know. That's what Socratic insight is all about: we need to learn because we understand so little. Education should lead to intellectual humility as we become more aware of our own ignorance. Conservatives also prize education, after all, but they do so because it should deliver the lesson of intellectual humility. Education should prevent us from thinking we can solve our deepest problems with science, technology or political structures.

There is a parallel here with faith. Some believers, infused with confidence in their own righteousness, display a spiritual arrogance that is offensive to those who don't share their beliefs. But many people of faith discover a deep humility through their spiritual life -- a humility that leads to openness to others rather than a proud sectarianism.

So maybe condescension depends less on questions of ideology, learning and faith than it does on differences in character. Some people just find it easier to sneer at others rather than to try to understand people with different points of view. The satisfactions of condescension are a temptation for people who feel they already know so much, just as the pleasures of elitism are seductive for people who are certain that God is on their side.

It's always easier to be condescending when you don't spend time with people who think or live differently than you do. That's why it's so important to find possibilities for dialogue that cut across ways of thinking or modes of belief. Political diversity is crucial for universities, for example, because if we live in an echo chamber of the Left, then we will forget how much we can learn from conservative thinkers who have rightly questioned our ability to master public and private life through systems of knowledge or government. Diversity of belief is good for all of us because if we think that we live in a community of the righteous, we might forget our responsibilities to those whose different beliefs and practices give meaning and value to their lives.

As a teacher and president of a university, I remain committed to education as an antidote to elitism rather than as a progressive cultivation of snobbery. As we learn, as we become more aware of our own ignorance, we should also become more open toward others, toward what they have to teach us. Looking down on others is surely a sign of intellectual fear rather than of a willingness to learn. An education in the liberal arts, which can lead to a political position on the Left or the Right, should result not in condescension but in its opposite: respect.

 
 
 
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11:36 AM on 02/14/2010
I’m a conservative, which means I’m also and INDIVIDUAL.
Individuals know where their life, liberty, and property stops and another individual’s begins.
Conservatives love liberty.

You can scan threw all of these posts and you WILL NOT find the word liberty anywhere.
Yet it is the word that was cried out over and over, again and again when this country was born.
And then you wonder why we claim that you are not Americans or condescending of your intellect.

Liberals and criminals do not respect liberties.
Liberals take from conservatives by legal plunder in the name of fairness and fear.
Fairness and fear is the foundation of all liberal discussions, it is in every post on this blog.
Criminals take by illegal plunder. The justice system was designed to protect the individual from legal and illegal plunder.

So when conservatives/republican’s say NO. It’s not a sound bite. It means NO… you can not take anymore of MY life, liberty, or property. You can talk till your blue in the face. There is no common ground when it comes to discussing more government and more taxes.

And also "sound bites," speak volumes of these very principles.
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07:39 PM on 02/14/2010
Fairness. What a horrible, unAmerican concept.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that the are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pusuit of Happiness." Why the alteration from Locke's life, liberty, and property? America was founded in contrast to countries where inequalites-- privilege and property-- were what defined nobility.

Property. Protected by taxes on ordinary people, the same employed in government services such as police, med techs, firefighters, the military. Do you provide these for yourself? Or should my relatives and other conscripts of the economic draft, clearly not of the wealthy elite, consider it an honor to die for those who think fairness an evil?

Ordinary people, whose taxes pay for scientific and medical research at public universities. Or do you have your own private lab?

Why are corporations "persons" protected of the Bill of Rights? Yet I, and every other blue collar worker, lose ours at the front door of the factory? Where our labor helps to enrich others. Don't need us? Build your own bridges, clean your own toilets.

And do feel free to read the whole Bible. Acts 4:34-5 "There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned houses or lands sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apolstles' feet and it was distributed to each as any had need."
08:48 AM on 02/15/2010
Fairness is a individual choise geniuss. (4:34-5) God does not make me choose or anybody else. Hence a God given right to choose "liberty."
Charity is the vehical used in the Bible to distribute to the needy not force of government law. You do not please God because you voted for good... it's because you are good.
Jesus was hung on the cross by Pilot taking a VOTE.
Fairness in government is done by force of law.

Corporations are something you have the "liberty" to choose to work for or not.
This isn't the late 1800's or early 1900's where employment was not as divers as it is now. Todays employers are strapped with hugh amounts of regulations, taxations, and
people like you breathing down their necks for them to be more responsable for things in your life that you should be responsible for your self.

GM is now broke and on the government dole because of union labor and the lefts fear of developing our own oil and gas resorses,,, causing speculation in oil peeks, giving us $150 a barrel oil and the collaps of car sales and the economy there after.

I have no dought that most of the people on this blog are good and decent human beings. The error here is you people think that government can do just as good as you can do your selves. (Your wrong charity will never bankrupt a country...socialism will and is doing it right now.)
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suzc
Speak the Truth, even if your voice shakes
09:34 AM on 02/15/2010
To equate liberals with criminals makes you part of the problem with today's so-called politics.
Liberals love liberty no less than Conservatives, Democrats no less than Republicans, and minorities possibly more than those in the majority.
To say liberals "take from conservatives" while pretending that conservatives haven't been taking from working class America of whatever ideology or political persuasion for four decades now is hypocritical or blind.
To spout talking points just to inflame the opposition is intellectually dishonest.
This is not about ideology, no matter what either side thinks. This is about greed. And oppression. By the very rich and their elected officials. This is about Govt and a Judicial System both out of control and out of touch with the Constitution.
10:44 AM on 02/15/2010
My context of criminal is illegal plunder.
My context of Liberals is legal plunder.
These are the only two ways for some one or government to take from another.
Which one are you talking about? I see me as not the problem politically at all.


Politics is the manipulation of emotions of which the liberal is master.
I speak in terms of statesman ship, which yields to common ground.
Emotions are personal attributes, they are your definitions of which we will never find common ground.


You are doing a lot of equating of business with criminal. Are you talking legal or illegal?
Greed is defined: selfish desire beyond reason. It is not a crime.
It does require you to make the reasonable choice as to what greed is in your eyes not mine.
You are at liberty to make that choice.
I’m not at liberty to make that choice if you define it in law.

“This is about Govt and a Judicial System both out of control and out of touch with the Constitution.”
Here I agree.

I have no talking points. That is a cheep deflection of what is the substance of my words.
06:11 PM on 02/13/2010
A Little Common Sense Please-

I agree with the liberals on many issues. At the very least, i think they mean well, which no one with an IQ above 25 would say about the republicans. But well meaning or not, liberals have three very bad habits. One, they they tend to think their doctrine explains everthing, and to overlook any inconvenient facts to the contrary. (Yes, the neocons are even worse)

Two, they don't do their homework and look for the facts. (A good example is candidate Obama telling iowa farmers to "shop at Whole Foods and try the arugula." there is not a Whole Foods in Iowa and farmers could not afford to shop there.)

The third is the holier-than-thou attitude mentioned in the article. Liberals would appeal much more to Joe Lunchbuket if they lost their pretensions and stressed their history of pushing worker's rights , clean air and clean water.

"liberal" or "conservative", your life will be better if you check the facts before charging ahead.
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04:42 PM on 02/13/2010
All of this commentary seems to assume that the conversation is only about the educated elites. And whether or not conservatives or liberals have been more grievously injured by the flaming words hurled in battles the conservatives call culture wars.

Both sides ignore the collateral damage inflicted on the working class majority. The ones whose once middle class lifestyle is on the brink of extinction. Whose kids are now conscripts of the economic draft. Those without four-year degrees, close to 3/4 of the US population, are invisible to those who frame issues in terms of their own intellectual interests.

Of course I abhor conservative economics, which assumes outcomes are totally a matter of reward for abilities. But liberal Democrats don't fare much better. By the mid-70s, that party had abandoned working people. In favor of a strategy run by professional analysts with little affinity to the party's traditional base. Thus scant attention to the looming economic inequity.

If you want to know what it is to experience elitism directly, read my post below of 2/13 at 01:43. If you want to a taste of the deep anger among left populists, read the commentary to the Huffpo article about an interview with an financier named Schwarzman, who bewailed the growing "bank bashing." Pithy, curt, and hardly polite.
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06:59 PM on 02/13/2010
What in the world is "middle class?"
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09:12 AM on 02/15/2010
Those workers who support not just their families but the very rich (for Republicans) and the very poor and minorities (for Democrats), and who are losing the ability to support their own families as Reps and Dems take more and more and more.
03:16 PM on 02/13/2010
I have a corollary idea that is broader than the consideration of condescension. In my lifetime, from Richard Nixon to Bush I and Lee Atwater, the Florida recount, and Rove, it seems conservatives/Republican strategists have made the conscious decision to win at all costs for the sake of obtaining the power to realize their agenda. A case can be made that this is the essence of politics, but it seems to me the conservative strategists have taken this to the extreme, donning the mantle of the bully to a destructive extent; drowning out dissent not through intellectual argument but through shouting over, ridiculing, cheating, and demonizing the opposition. I have always found the truest test of character is the answer to the question, "What would you rather do? Win doing the wrong thing or lose doing the right thing?" I think one of the things that is confounding political analysis of Obama's presidency is that he seems determined to do things the right way with the possibility of failure. He refuses to steamroll over his conservative opponents though he has the congressional power to do so because he knows that any lasting change needs buy-in from both sides. I do believe he is willing to compromise and I hope, for all of our sakes, he is successful in doing so. It may tack him to center, but anything is better than the destructive legacy recently left to us by the Roves and DeLays of the last decade.
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Speak the Truth, even if your voice shakes
12:37 PM on 02/15/2010
well said
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12:46 PM on 02/13/2010
Conservatives have no right to accuse liberals of being condescending, not when they call liberals latte sippers and chardonay liberals, and claim that they aren't 'real' Americans. Furthermore, this idea that conservatives, after Bush, should be given respect is absurd. After the mess of 2000-20008, they don't deserve any respect.
12:05 PM on 02/13/2010
I found this article to be as balanced as anything out there, which speaks well of its author. I would surmise that this man is an excellent university president. As for my humble opinion, one difference between liberals and conservatives is based on religious belief. Liberals tend to be either atheistic or deistic, leaning towards the idea that, even if there is a god, he, she, it, or they don't care very much about human affairs. Therefore, we humans are in control of our universe and are obliged to make of it what we can, and it follows that the best, brightest, and most rigorously educated of us should be charged with telling everyone else what to think and do. Conservatives, on the other hand, generally tend to believe in a god who is more involved and in charge of an eventual judgment day. Therefore, any condescension is backed up by a reliance upon a higher knowledge given to humanity by a higher power. It then follows that believers are to be entrusted with government, being that they are aware of such a higher power and that they will ultimately need to answer to this power. At any rate, one's belief in a god who is really in control should inevitably lead to a greater degree of humility, whereas, if humanity is the measure of all things, then the brightest of us retain a right, perhaps even an obligation, to be condescending. Have I assessed the overall situation fairly well?
10:55 AM on 02/13/2010
I have never seen any evidence of deep thought and voracious reading behind blanket statements uttered by both liberals and conservatives. As liberal as upper education is reported to be, most universities have never required a deep and broad based liberal arts curriculum. The opinions of the administration and faculty might be liberal, but the "education"; the academic credits earned are not in the majority "liberal arts".

What we see in this blog and most others is a repeating of superficial themes, philosophical approaches quoted from academic legends out of context and the same for political science. What the comments do show is a cursory reading of liberal or conservative sound bite rags - and a regurgitation of those sound bites.


Problem is that when both sides really dig in and attempt to debate - they do bring up good intellectually based arguments, and neither side is willing to admit the others "get it". The debate turns quickly into a sound bite battle of worn out cliché statements and slogans.

Word limits and text limits are imposed on 99% of the population, and those few liberals or conservatives in the positions of power to garner "no limit" discourse in the media - have their way with society. Editorially across America, even in personal blogs, the rule is short and sweet; get to the point or the reader will lose interest or not read it at all.

The we have all this hooey about liberals being voracious readers.

Where is the
09:37 AM on 02/13/2010
Smarti needs to realise:

1) I can easly find a liberal case to match every conservitive complaint Smarti has.
2) There are at least 150 different kinds of intellegents of which Smarti has about 5.
3) The rest of the country has the other 145 plus Smarti's.
4) Intellectual or 's will never poses the collective intellegents of this country.
5) And that is why the individual and liberty is so important to the advancement of knowledge.

Smarti has a problem with self worth.
10:43 AM on 02/13/2010
So then do it... state all your opinions.

The issue I have with holding an intelligent conversation and not being condescending with these people, is they don't actually say anything. They say soundbites. Their idea of a valid argument is drawing a mustache on a picture of the president. It is hard to debate against a sign saying keep government off my social security.

And if you want to say, oh those signs aren't "us" then why did not one republican leader stand up and say, no there are no death panels, and yes the president has a valid birth certificate. But they don't do that. They are more than happy to give speeches to these people and feed the fire. If you want to be taken seriously, then be serious. And when someone on your side is spouting nonsense, call them out on it.
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07:44 PM on 02/13/2010
Absolutely! I am tired of conversations about "condescending elitists," meaning liberals. Having grown up in a working class family, I spent most of my adult years being referred to as "the educated idiot" because I was the first in my family to go to college. So that condescension knife cuts both ways. And I've become really fed up with people who, as you say, howl nothing more profound than soundbites they copped from Hannity and Limbaugh and accuse you of being "condescending" if you call them on it.

Conservatives have always been the more condescending of the two groups. I remember political conversations 40 years ago. Conservatives were condescending then, too. The difference was, back then, most of them (at least the people I met) had the intellectual chops to back it up and the integrity to disassociate themselves from the yahoos who used the conservative mantle as a cover for racist and otherwise hateful positions. Today, conservatives are either idiots or Machiavellian manipulators who use the idiots for their own ends.
04:04 PM on 02/15/2010
If you want my intellectual chops Rhiana go to the top of the posts.
Same for wendy82551 below.
07:36 AM on 02/13/2010
Why are liberals so condescending? Because conservatives make absurd statements in Washington Post articles about the "Reagan boom of the 1980s" without understanding that the massive tax cuts Reagan gave to the wealthiest - of course created a "boom" - but they also created much of the national debt we have today ... and then they go on to blame Democrats for the national debt.
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11:39 AM on 02/13/2010
Perhaps conservatives would respect your opinion of Reagan, it they had any sense that you had read the other half of the page before jumping to convenient conclusions and launching into your attacks. As a conservative myself, I come here with the firm intention of engaging the left in an intelligent discussion. Many here at HP ARE condescending, downright abusive, yet many others are not. I often find irony that the right and left are in agreement on problematic issues, but totally at odds on solutions to address them. Despite Mr. Roth's cartoon-like caricature of the right, he is also equitably generous to the left, and he makes a good point. Talking about stuff never hurt anyone.
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NoMoFearNoMoHate
12:18 PM on 02/13/2010
Then why do conservatives whine so much about words hurting them?

I'm serious. Why do conservatives whine about liberals being condescending and hurting their feelings?

It's just talking.
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05:37 AM on 02/13/2010
Here's the difference between contemporary American liberaliasim juxtaposed with American conservativism: Liberalism requires voracious reading and research and conservativism requires non of that. Conservativism is bereft of any intellectual rigor; it is frequently tantamount to the status quo - plain and simple. To be sure, there are academics that are "conservative intellectual" but their ideas are nothing more than high falutin rhetoric espousing and defending the trite status quo and promoting division, inequality, jingoism and ignorance. The bombastic language by these conservatives trickles down from academia and think tanks to pollsters, advisers, and consultants to "dumb" it down so that the yokels can understand it.

There's a reason why liberals are fewer in our country than conservatives, because the intellectual development of a person requires deep serious thought that comes w/ reading widely and robustly. Your average person isn't a serious consumer of hard news and scholarship. If they were liberals would easily outnumber conservatives. That's why liberals always explain away on a myriad of topics because they know about all the nuance involved. Alternatively conservatives speak in sound bites not because it makes for easy politics but because the sound bite is all they know about the given topic.
02:03 AM on 02/13/2010
This is an article with some even handed opinions concerning on each side knowing better the other, and acknowledging the other side as having relevant and accurate opinions on certain issues.

However, underlying everything remains the dominant reason for conservative claims that liberals espouse the MAJORITY of condescension. - the insistence of a more intellectual basis for liberal thought. I suppose Buckley was an intellectual aberration and really nothing more than a double talker?

The writer mixes questions about whether liberals are really "more condescending", then follows that by stating liberals have no monopoly on condescension.

Which is it" If not "more' - that would be equally. If not a monopoly - that could still mean a significant majority of use.

Oh well, perhaps liberals have a small 12% majority lead in the popular feeling. Hey, that seems to be a mandate in current perspectives. No monopoly - but a certainly a majority use of condescension by the writers own account.

Double talk defines America like nothing else...

If either side actually used education to open their minds and have respect for other views, 95% of the articles in this journal or any other would not be so completely slanted, condescending and arrogant about the primacy of "their" particular leanings and intellectual superiority.

Just describing liberals as Prius drivers and conservatives as pick up drivers - is arrogant, elitist and condescending.
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11:57 PM on 02/13/2010
"Just describing liberals as Prius drivers and conservatives as pick up drivers - is arrogant, elitist and condescending."

He didn't actually do that, (i.e. describe Liberals as Prius drivers and Conservatives as Pick-up drivers) .

He gave that as an example of a frame of reference upon which condescension can be based on either side.

What is somewhat condescending and certainly disingenuous and morally ambiguous is to reduce his more complex overall argument into a simplistic one-line fragment of an example he gave, and make that seem representative of his entire position and disposition as a whole.
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Raphi
01:43 AM on 02/13/2010
The liberal // conservative dichotomy is inadequate to address the issue of elitism and education.
Because it renders obscure the factor of class prejudice.

I was born into a working class family, and have a blue-collar job. But also an IQ of 148 and a voracious appetite for books. As a skilled worker for 30 years, I can attest to the fact that many of my co-workers have been highly intelligent people. Something seldom recognized by educated elites.

Such as the conservative manager types, unable to do our jobs. Yet as biz school grads, sure of their superiority. Add to this the Wall Streeters comfortable exacerbating economic inequity. And the economists of finance, for whom labor is a cost to be shed. Or the patrician elite which considers us little more than animals.

And liberal elitism? The fallacious dismissal of unions as clubs for racist white men. The well-meaning condescension; feeling good talking to the help. Seldom as if we were people with minds. Few realize that 24% of baby boomers, 26 % of genY, have four-year degrees. We the majority, in our working lives, are invisible. Creates a grinding resentment in us, believe me. The smug dismissal of religion. Feel free to denigrate what you don't understand. Anti-religious non-sequiturs are not uncommon on Huffpo.

Lest you think I don't understand: I earned a degree in botany at 50, then grad school in theology. Encountered appalling classism. My labor radicalism remains intact.
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wendy82551
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10:54 AM on 02/14/2010
Great post! We really want to sweep the class issues under the carpet, pretend they don't exist. But they are powerful sources of energy in the present political discourse.
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smarti
We're all mad here..
11:11 PM on 02/12/2010
Particularly disturbing is the modern evangelical church serving as a tax-free Republican PAC, and the rise of the so-called "prosperity gospel" (coinciding with the marriage of right wing politics and Christianity) which insidiously rewords the Bible into a gospel that preaches earthly wealth is a "blessing from God" that automatically places the rich into God's favor and if the poor are poor, it's because God hasn't blessed them. Which makes all those billionaire preachers automatically viewed as "God's own" while the congregation needs to pledge more money to these blessed saviors, so they themselves can be "blessed" and therefore, will become rewarded with riches. Which, conveniently, melds itself with corporate right wing propaganda of "rich = good, poor=lazy" and all religious based conservative propaganda naturally follows. This is truly frightening, because the religious right wingers that support corporate favoritism and breaks are doing it because they truly believe these organizations are rich and need to be made richer because God is blessing them. Same with the "C-Street" pols. Scary.
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We're all mad here..
11:10 PM on 02/12/2010
Another issue of modern conservatism worth noting is the melding of evangelical Christianity with right wing politics, hence the "social conservatives". If you honestly pursue this, as much as conservatives dislike federal control and "statism" why is it they are so inclined to meld Christianity (their version of it) into federal policy (the defense of marriage, adding "under God" to the pledge, etc)? The whole "Christian nation" thing is ridiculous: America was founded (albeit by some Puritan Christians) to get away from state sanctioned religion. If they were intellectually honest they would recognize a government that endorses one religion over others (even if theirs is the flavor of the month) can eventually control that religion, and, when tides change, endorse a different religion, one they might not be so compatible with?
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10:31 PM on 02/12/2010
The best thing we all can do is remember everything we experience is subjective. We all view life through a prejudiced lens, no matter how pure we think our sight may be.
We should try to clean our "lenses" daily.