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Michael Rowe

Michael Rowe

Posted: December 7, 2009 11:12 PM

Should the U.S. Get Involved in the Amanda Knox Murder Verdict?

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The family of Amanda Knox, the American student convicted in Italy of murdering her British roommate, Meredith Kercher, on November 1, 2007 with the participation of her Italian boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, has announced their intention to solicit the intervention of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to overturn their daughter's guilty verdict.

While there is certainly precedent, especially in recent decades, for such involvement in the cases of Americans charged with crimes abroad, they have usually involved cases where the accused were perceived to have been used as political pawns by so-called "rogue states," like Iran and North Korea, which have an officially-enshrined enmity towards the United States. The most obvious recent example is the "rescue mission" for Laura Ling and Euna Lee, the television journalists sentenced to 12 years of hard labor in North Korea for illegally entering the country. In the case of Lin and Lee, former president Bill Clinton brokered Ling and Lee's release, though it was made clear that it was a private humanitarian mission, not an officially-sanctioned State Department undertaking.

It must be acknowledged at the outset that the family of Amanda Knox is facing an ordeal mercifully unlike any that most parents will ever have to face. The prospect of being away from their daughter for 26 years while she serves her sentence for a murder they are convinced she is innocent of is literally unimaginable. As parents, they deserve sympathy and support, no matter what one's personal view of the case might be.

The murder of Meredith Kercher is a tragedy. If Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito are innocent, then the tragedy is further compounded by a grotesque miscarriage of justice.

Serious questions have been raised about the way the trial was conducted and, specifically, the conduct of prosecutor Giuliano Mignini whose shocking, hyperbolic descriptions of Knox as a "she devil" and a "deviant" bore more than a passing resemblance to his lurid, penny-dreadful theories of black magic rituals and Satanism expressed during the investigation of the as-yet unsolved "Monster of Florence" serial killing. According to many American legal pundits, there is little to no physical evidence to connect Amanda Knox to the murder.

In addition, an Ivory Coast native, Rudy Guede, whose DNA was found inside Kercher's body, was convicted of the murder in a separate trial. Guede claims the sex with Kercher was consensual, and that, at some later point later on the night she was murdered, he saw an unidentified intruder stab her to death, and she died in his arms. The fact that Guede didn't call the police, but instead fled to Germany, didn't sit well with the jury. Before being sentenced to 30 years in prison, Guede pointed a finger at Knox and Sollecito, accusing the couple of pinning the crime on him.

Given these and other irregularities, it goes without saying that the standards and practices of the Italian legal system as manifested in the Knox-Sollecito trial (Sollecito, like Knox, was eventually sentenced to 26 years in prison) have raised the ire of many U.S. observers and trial-watchers. In widely circulated statement, Senator Maria Cantwell (D-Washington) expressed her dismay, and her intention to take up the verdict with Clinton's office:

I am saddened by the verdict and I have serious questions about the Italian justice system and whether anti-Americanism tainted this trial. The prosecution did not present enough evidence for an impartial jury to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that Ms. Knox was guilty. Italian jurors were not sequestered and were allowed to view highly negative news coverage about Ms. Knox. Other flaws in the Italian justice system on display in this case included the harsh treatment of following her arrest; negligent handling of evidence by investigators; and pending charges of misconduct against one of the prosecutors stemming from another murder trial. I am in contact with the U.S. Ambassador to Italy and have been since the time of Ms. Knox's arrest. I will be conveying my concerns to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Still, the efficacy of State Department-level U.S. involvement in the process merits some debate, coming, as it would, into an international political climate tainted in the minds of many Europeans by what they consider eight-plus years of U.S. political and military entitlement: the abuses at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere, detainee torture, the "extraordinary rendition" kidnapping and torture of foreign nationals, and especially the continued failure to close Guantanamo Bay. Outside the borders of the U.S., the prison is perceived to be an enduring symbol of Bush-era American disregard for the basic tenets of the Geneva Convention. This view is widely held in Europe, and was doubtless on the minds of many Italian observers of the trial.

One primary currency of high-level diplomacy is the carrot-or-stick approach, which employs a combination of rewards and/or punishment to induce a change in outcome, including offering the opponent a chance to "save face." The question is, what inducement could the Secretary of State bring to bear in this particular case? A segment of Ms. Knox's supporters doubtless envision a hard line approach by Mrs. Clinton's office, such as the one she took earlier this year when she demanded the immediate the release of Iranian-American NPR journalist Roxana Saberi, who was charged with espionage in Iran, and sentenced to eight years in prison (then released when her sentence was reduced to a two-year suspended one.)

That said, Italy is not Iran or North Korea. Ms. Knox was not convicted in under an hour during a closed-door trial, as Saberi was. Nor does the Italian government have anything gain by thumbing its nose at the Obama presidency, as the North Koreans did with the show trial of Lee and Ling. Flawed as the trial appears, it was conducted transparently, by Italian standards, and in accordance with Italian law. When the United States loudly asserts its right to apply its own laws to foreigners in the form of "extraordinary rendition" flights, or indefinite detention without charge on "suspicion of terrorism," it's difficult to make a case when the shoe is on the other foot.

The Italian press is already making much of the "news" that Clinton's office will involve itself, though there has been no official comment from the State Department to that effect. The newspaper Corriere della Sera commented, "The (US) administration cannot close Guantanamo, yet if finds time to think about Perugia." Furthermore, while there is no doubt that Ms. Knox was the victim of deeply misogynistic characterizations, the charge of anti-Americanism is complicated by the fact that Ms. Knox's co-defendant, Raffaele Sollecito, is an Italian citizen, and Mr. Geuede is a native of the Ivory Coast.

Many Italians, for instance, remain unforgiving of the fact that an American military court acquitted US Marine fighter pilots Captain Richard J. Ashby, and his navigator, Captain Joseph Schweitzer, of involuntary manslaughter and negligent homicide when, on February 3, 1998, their EA-6B Prowler military plane cut a cable cut a cable supporting a ski gondola near the town of Cavalese, resulting in the death of 20 people. The two men's acquittal put a strain on U.S. relations with Italy, and was perceived by the Italian people as a case of "might making right," with the military of a powerful, bully nation escaping justice and leaving 20 bodies in their wake.

It's appears essential for supporters of Miss Knox and Mr. Sollecito to continue their media campaign on her behalf, and to take advantage of the fact that, under Italian law, the appeals process is not based upon merit, but upon a guaranteed right to a two-stage appeals process, which, according to an article in the Christian Science Monitor by Nick Squires, could take up to five years.

Whether Mrs. Clinton's office becomes involved or not, it seems that a light touch from U.S. officialdom might secure the most favorable result for Ms. Knox, if for no other reason than to avoid the antagonizing perception of bullying right before a long appeals process even begins. Italian officials involved with the appeals process will be no less aware of the political climate inside Italy regarding this case during the appeals process than they were during the trial, and it would be tragic if outrage towards perceived U.S. dictation by the Obama administration was brought to bear on their decision making.

In the meantime, we should all brace ourselves for this to turn into a political hot potato, one that right-wing opponents of both Mrs. Clinton and President Obama will take full advantage of.

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08:09 AM on 12/14/2009
I just saw this story on the news. From what I gathered, there is very little evidence that could link Knox to the murder. Also, most of the DNA evidence that was gathered could easily rave resulted form the fact that Knox and Meredith were roommates. Living together is a guaranteed way to spread large amounts of DNA-containing material around someone. I do think that the US State Department stepping in on this situation could make things sticky. However, the appeal for another trial could take up to 5 years, and that is too long for an innocent person to be in jail. In the US, it is considered more egregious for an innocent person to be sent to jail than for a guilty person to go free. Italy does not have to be and is not the same, but a little bit of persuasion on the part of our government could go a long way in either securing her release or speeding up the appeals process. As a final note, if the outlook turns south on the appeal and/or possible future negotiations, I am not opposed to the US bullying a bit. It may be frowned upon (especially with the recent acceptance of a Nobel Peace Prize), but I think it would work wonders to sail the USS Nimitz into the Mediterranean Sea and Obama to say "We can settle this diplomatically, and I have 90,000 tons of diplomacy waiting in the Mediterranean. Release her, now."
09:49 AM on 12/13/2009
Here's a breakdown - true facts! Do any of you know about "All Saints Day?"
Meredith was allegedly killed on All Saints Day. There's a possibility that this scared Rudy and that's why he fled to France. Amanda and Raffaele can't remember what happened/conflict/changing alibis -

You must google All Saints Day, Nov 1st - the prosecutor may very well be correct with the satanism theories!
12:02 PM on 12/11/2009
Amanda Knox never had a chance....the blatant anti-americanism displayed in the travesty is the best argument imaginable for isolationism.
09:56 AM on 12/10/2009
Meanwhile, away from this week's media circus and cheap opinions,
in an admittedly foreign land,
a young woman's tortured cold body lies in a grave.
Would the current partisan sideshow have been different if she'd been an American too?
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dressking
10:35 PM on 12/09/2009
Please read Wendy Murphy's "`Foxy Knoxy:' Innocent coed or manipulative murderer?" at http://www.dailynewstribune.com/opinion/x327822063/Murphy-Foxy-Knoxy-Innocent-coed-or-manipulative-murderer.
01:22 PM on 12/27/2009
Yes, and then google "Wendy Murphy" and "Duke Lacrosse" right after you do that.
08:08 AM on 12/09/2009
Why go to Italy? American jails are full of people who were convicted despite there being no evidence against them. The U.S. should get involved in *Texas*, for godssake.
08:33 AM on 12/09/2009
You're right. But the need to change our justice system here does not mean we should let Italy get away with putting innocent people in prison.

My ideal would be to keep innocent people out of prison everywhere.
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dressking
07:28 AM on 12/09/2009
Does anyone think OJ is guilty and Knox is not?
08:32 AM on 12/09/2009
Of course. That's obvious.
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09:34 AM on 12/09/2009
OJ was suspected of committing the crime based on DNA evidence and so was Knox. The only difference is OJ did not get convicted while Knox did. Just because OJ got away with it does not mean that Knox should get away with it as well. It is not fair when one can get away while another can not. But are we never going to convict anyone just because OJ was not convicted?
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Romeover
Civilization is for weaklings.
06:21 AM on 12/09/2009
We have a carrot we can offer to Italy in return for accommodation in the Knox case.

We can extradite to Italy the 23 Americans (including 22 CIA agents) convicted in absentia for the abduction of Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr from the streets of Milan, a crime of which they are most probably guilty.
08:31 AM on 12/09/2009
Not a crime to capture a suspected terrorist, and hardly a solution to let Italy put even more innocent people in prison.
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10:16 AM on 12/09/2009
So it's not a crime for foreign government agents to snatch people off the streets of U.S. cities and take them away to be held in secret prisons in third party nations?

You might want to try that one just to prove to us how legal it is.
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06:49 PM on 12/09/2009
I'm sorry, Oralloy, but it IS a crime to kidnap a person, "suspected terrorist" or not, off the streets of Italy, and take them to another country to be tortured. Hence the conviction of the 23 Americans named. I doubt that the CIA agents who were convicted were "innocent" of the crimes for which they were convicted.

In case you weren't aware of it: US citizens, including CIA agents, are bound by Italian law when they are in Italy.
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Phalanxman
Everything in Moderation
02:09 AM on 12/09/2009
Every sovereign nation has its own justice system. Some are similar, others not so much. When an American travels abroad, he or she enters into the justice system of the nation they are visiting. It's kind of like swimming in the ocean -- it can be fun, but most people don't understand they are inserting themselves into the food chain by doing it.

The U.S. has no more business second-guessing the Italian justice system than the government of Italy would have in interfering with a prosecution here of one of their citizens. And they have had plenty of high profile chances to do that, haven't they?

The U.S. needs to stay officially out of this matter.
overcat
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03:48 AM on 12/09/2009
Excellent post. Totally spot on. What is also getting lost in the hysteria is that she still has the right to appeal, so nothing is final at this point.

To expend any diplomatic capital the US has on a situation like this would be foolish. We should not forget that due to our heavy handed actions and attitudes toward our European allies over the Bush years, we ought to tread somewhat lightly concerning the internal matters of Italy.
08:38 AM on 12/09/2009
She's already spent two years in prison for a crime she didn't commit. Kind of callous to let her spend another three just to save diplomatic capital. And that's assuming the appeal has a just verdict even then.

The diplomatic capital is there to protect Americans. We should use it to protect Americans.
08:30 AM on 12/09/2009
The US has every right stepping in when other countries put innocent Americans in prison.
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Phalanxman
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11:21 PM on 12/10/2009
How do you KNOW she is innocent? An opinion or a belief is not the same as knowledge, which is based on first-hand observation or the totality of the evidence. You are entitled to your opinions and beliefs, but to assert them as KNOWLEDGE is, epistemologically speaking, a real Bozo no-no.
11:57 PM on 12/08/2009
Want to get the State Dep. involved? Here is an idea. Turn over the 8 CIA agents to Italy to stand trial in exchange for Ms. Knox (to be jailed in the U.s.) - Well thats not going to happen is it?
12:08 AM on 12/09/2009
You mean the ones who were grabbing a suspected terrorist with the cooperation (and probably even participation) of the Italian government?
12:40 AM on 12/09/2009
Yep. The Italian government officials involved in the case have been tried and found guilty.
11:23 PM on 12/08/2009
Every nation has flawed cases. We are not in the clear by any means (we are generally reviled in Europe since we have the death penalty, which makes it harder to say "oops, we were wrong," on criminal cases).
Maybe Knox was innocent, I thought so at first. Heck, maybe she just saw the blood and the body, panicked, and tried to clean up the crime scene so the cops wouldn't think she was involved, and blamed someone she knew was innocent for the crime hoping to save herself.
But you have a dope user, who was at the scene and didn't call the cops. I don't feel too sorry for her.
Right now, Italian soldiers are part of the NATO coalition forces in Afganistan. If we piss off Italian public opinion, they can pull out their troops. That means American troops DIE.
Is it worth it???
11:48 PM on 12/08/2009
I'm not aware of any evidence she cleaned up the crime scene.

She blamed the innocent man because the police coerced her into doing so.

As for NATO, justice is far more important than having other people help us fight.
03:25 AM on 12/09/2009
There is ample evidence that AK and RS tried to clean up the crime scene. They were literally holding mops when the Italian "post police" arrived at the apartment because the flatmate's and MK's cellphones had been found in someone's garden.

I suggest you read a summary of Judge Micheli's report. (Micheli was the judge in the "fast-track" trial of Rudy Guede.)

You will see that - although many questions remain - it just isn't a case of Italian authorities framing an American student.

http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/C343/
10:09 PM on 12/08/2009
One thing I'd like to see addressed is what sort of compensation Italy (or Europe) provides for wrongful convictions.

I freely acknowledge that America's record on such compensation is horrific. I'm furious over that and will refuse to ever serve on a jury because of it.

But if Amanda Knox serves a long prison term (complete with all these people making smug pronouncements of her guilt), and is then proved innocent, if she receives no compensation (or inadequate compensation) I really think I'm going to be inclined to start seeing Italy (or even Europe) as America's enemy.

I know the bar owner that she was forced to falsely accuse received a little bit of compensation. But it seemed to be of the "inadequate" variety from what I could tell.
10:42 PM on 12/08/2009
"and is then proved innocent, if she receives no compensation"

She would be compensated.

"I really think I'm going to be inclined to start seeing Italy (or even Europe) as America's enemy."

Your train of thought is mind-boggling. By your logic, America is America's enemy right now. Moreover, just because other countries handle things differently than the US makes them enemies, even though they apply the rules to their own citizens? My, my ...

"I know the bar owner that she was forced to falsely accuse received a little bit of compensation. But it seemed to be of the "inadequate" variety from what I could tell."

Ms. Knox will liable for further damages. This is a separate civil case.
11:21 PM on 12/08/2009
"She would be compensated."

Yes, but the degree of compensation is a significant issue. If it is just a tiny token payment it won't be likely to sway my opinion toward Italy.

"Your train of thought is mind-boggling. By your logic, America is America's enemy right now. Moreover, just because other countries handle things differently than the US makes them enemies, even though they apply the rules to their own citizens? My, my ..."

I am extremely unhappy with the state of America's justice system. The statement "America is America's enemy right now" has merit.

I think it's a very safe bet that, given the lack of evidence and the way most Italians don't seem to care about the lack of evidence, if she is proved innocent and is not *adequately* compensated, America and Italy will become enemies.

Not saying I have a flawless knack for predicting the future, but I think that is a safe prediction.

"Ms. Knox will liable for further damages. This is a separate civil case."

I know. That seems obscene to me given the way the police pressured her into making the false charge.

It also is not likely to result in further compensation since she has no money to give.

And if she is proved innocent and then has to get compensation by suing the real murderer (who will likely also have very little money) that isn't going to work either.
08:31 PM on 12/08/2009
The question to be asked is "fair trial" by whose standards? For a start, Italy is a civil law legal system. If you know anything about civil law, you will remember that the "burden of proof" in criminal cases is not the same standard as in the US.

Instead of gullible listening to talking heads on CNN and other disinformation networks and believing everything they hear, how about they start by doing what intelligent people would do, i.e., read about and understand the legal system under which this case was tried.
09:17 PM on 12/08/2009
I'm not sure that the "respect the legal system" argument has much merit. It a legal system is putting innocent Americans in prison, as this one clearly is, my inclination as an American is to go to war and force that legal system to change to one that is actually just.

Sorry if my suggestion of war is offensive, but considering the way many Italians seem to be gloating over putting innocent people in prison, maybe it should be considered.
10:44 PM on 12/08/2009
What would you think if other states would declare war on the US for executing innocent people or for executing people at all?
11:00 PM on 12/08/2009
You moronic Americans never have enough wars! Your hubristic attitude second guessing the verdict of a jury is so dim-witted.
07:57 PM on 12/08/2009
OK so this girl from Washington State with no history of any criminal violence whatsoever got together with some guy she had known approximately a week and some dude from the Ivory Coast that she barely knew and decided that for whatever reason that her roommate had to die in a blood sex orgy, OK.

I guess they planned this whole Satanic ritual through some kind of mental telepathy because there is not one shred of evidence that these 3 ever were in the same place at the same time before this and there has never been any evidence ever presented of phone contact, internet messages or anything of that sort between the 3 of them.

I guess this Rudy Guede guy got really unlucky that he was the only one who left a mountain of his physical evidence behind of his presence at the crime scene while Knox left nothing and her boyfriend alledgedly left behind a bra clasp with his DNA (highly disputed by the defense) on it which unluckily for the prosecution was not collected ummmm until 6 weeks after the crime was committed, awesome police work how unlucky for them.

It was just unlucky for the prosecution that they said the "case was closed" after a few days, and then Rudy Guede came on the scene to sort of mess things up for them on that declaration.

But yes that's how it all went down in this Satanic blood sex murder orgy. Yes absolutely.
08:15 PM on 12/08/2009
Like I said before, I guess these 3 people are the real unlucky ones and Meredith Kercher is what? Really the lucky one?

I can to point understand those that do not accept the verdict, but I must confess to be completely stunned that so many people seem to have forgotten that a young women was brutally murdered.

Surely acknowledging this simple fact is not asking to much.

It is Meredith family that have been given a life sentance without parole, whether your agree with the verdict or not is a FACT.
08:36 PM on 12/08/2009
The crime was brutal and we owe it to Meredith Kercher and other victims of violent crime to see that true justice is done and the correct persons are punished for the crimes commited.
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11:23 PM on 12/08/2009
How many people have commit murder who had no any criminal record prior to committing murder?
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07:36 PM on 12/08/2009
I wonder what can convince some people Knox is guilty. A video showing Knox cutting Meredith's throat? Meredith's handwritten note accusing Knox? Will anyone who does not admit to a crime ever be convicted without these?
07:52 PM on 12/08/2009
Perhaps just some credible evidence. Just some.

...still waiting...
08:17 PM on 12/08/2009
You do understand that they have been convicted? In addition, I hope you understand that sometime next fall the first appeal will be heard, there is no debate they have been convicted pending the appeal process.
11:01 PM on 12/08/2009
You will never accept any....the arrogant American.