Michael Seitzman

Michael Seitzman

Posted: October 23, 2007 12:31 PM

Halle Berry Said "JEWISH!" Is She out of her Half-Black Mind?!

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"If you watch the clip, you can see Halle saying the word Jewish....[she] should be ashamed of herself!"

I'm not sure who is a bigger douche, the Leno audience member who said that, or Richard Johnson, who quoted her on Page Six, under the headline, "Berry Nose Better Than That." Are we really such a nation of pussies now? Someone says the word Jewish and we call 9-1-1? Excuse me, but my tribe has been run down by every small-dick thug since cro-magnon had his first bar mitvah. Halle Berry didn't urinate on a Torah. She made a joke and it was funny (and in this business, you don't cut funny).

If you didn't see it, she was showing distorted images from her computer camera and one made her look like she had a big nose, so she said "This one makes me look like my Jewish cousin." See? It's kinda funny. At the very least, it's cute. Laugh a little, folks. Lotsa jews have big noses, as do Italians, Arabs, Armenians, and a whole buncha other people. And big noses can be beautiful and they can also be funny (Jimmy Durante's nickname was Schnozzola). And Halle Berry, with her perfectly gorgeous nose, is funny with a big nose. Her Jewish assistant who first made the joke thought so. And on behalf of the rest of the thick-skinned Jews out there, I think so too.

You know, I was talking about this with my black friend today. Wait...can I say black? Sorry, my African-American friend. Actually, he's not African. Okay, my Jamaican-American friend. Does that make him African-Jamaican-American? Are Jamaicans from Africa? He's Catholic, too. Come to think of it, he kind of has a big nose. In fact, if he were white he might even look Jewish. Did you know Ethiopia has a lot of Jews? They have small noses. You've seen them before, the small-nose-African-American-Jewish-types? They don't look anything like my Jewish cousins. In fact, they probably look more like Halle's gentile-black-African-American-gorgeous-movie-star-cousins. Wait...can I say movie star?

 
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The issue should not be that HB said "Jew."

It should be that she can't say it.

Newsflash: "NBC policelike culture created wall of silence around Halle Barry saying the word 'Jew.' Silent, but firm resistance all over tightly-controlled corporate media universe."

It looks like she'll get off the hook this time. Perhaps she'll be gone next time; she and everything else she might say, "right" or "wrong."

If it isn't free speech, it isn't. I don't like to mince words.

Yes, NBC can by rights can sensor what someone says.

And they do. They do it singly and as part of FONABCBLAWPWSNYTWEEKLYSTANDARD.

You only hear what they want you to. If I were to believe your assertion that they don't, the statement would read, "you hear what they want you to and you hear what they don't want you to." Do you tell people what you don't want them to hear?

Believe me, they have their own little prejudices...or else they don't.

Whaddya think?

You have choices A and B. There is only one right choice, but we presented the wrong one to you as well; see how egalitarian we are?

That is why media conglomerations need to be busted up.

Because the right choice for them may not be the right choice for you.

Because both may be wrong.

Because they may even know this is so.

Because they may not.

Because the media and entertainment product in the US is flat, empty, unreal, and soulless.

Because it is steered, policed and vetted in a thousand different ways so that it ostensibly offends nothing except everyone's sense levity and spontaneity: the essence of entertainment.

Because the greater risk for society lies in not hearing something worthwhile versus hearing something that isn't.

Because we have freedoms, rights, and a constitution to ensure to which a tightly controlled press is anathema.

If people a regulating what you hear, they are making up your mind for you.

That is why you'll only hear this from someone as unbiased as me. You hear?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 10/24/2007
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Very amusing and a welcomed slap at politically correct absurdity.

Here's a not-too-serious bit of trivia you may be able to use in a future article (or not).

Is Halle Barry 'half-Black'? Probably not. I'm not missing the substance of the very humorous contextual adjective. Just conscious of the fact that few of us are 'half' of anything these days, as race and other things go.

I once assumed I am pure Honky. I may be, but that seems unlikely given the vast number of generations, parents, and possibilities that exist as far back as my Father's roots in Scotland, and my Mother's in England.

Anything 'British' inherently suggests 'Heinz 57' possibilities. Not many world conquerers originated in Africa. The British filled the void by traversing the world and reformulating the gene pool nearly everywhere.

I have a sister, for example, who cannot get too much rice. It naturally follows that she has a few Hong Kong genes in her system... somewhere:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 10/24/2007
- LewisWalsh I'm a Fan of LewisWalsh 11 fans permalink
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Thank you Michael Seitzman, I wish I could have said that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 10/24/2007
- wrabbitt I'm a Fan of wrabbitt 9 fans permalink

there is two kinds of people on the earth those from earth and those who believe their from someplace better sorry we are all earthlings until this planet sorts out it minor differences we as a race are going no where think 25 years in the future will our children like what we did? did we like what our parents did? is there intelligent life on earth? (Not in Washington)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 10/24/2007

If you want to really get technical here, then I have some questions. If other Americans are delineated by the continent from which their ancestors "originated" -- European Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans -- then why are Jewish Americans not also delineated by the description "Asian Americans?" After all, their ancestors originated in Israel, and Israel is in Asia. If you want to get more specific with national origins -- Italian American, German American, Irish American -- then why are Jewish Americans described by their ethnicity (Jewish) and not by their country of origin (Israel), which would make them "Israeli Americans?"

Expanding upon this topic, why are Americans so selective about whom they offend regarding racial epithets? It seems that the only group that remains unprotected by the move toward political correctness in our racially-concious society are the Native Americans -- a group which I happen to claim membership. Racially-derogatory words -- Kike, Spic, "N-word", etc. -- are now off limits among the genteel, yet not only is "Redskin" accepted, but the football team representing our nation's capital is called "Redskins," a team ironically owned by a "Jewish American," Dan Snyder. He has stubbornly resisted all attempts to persuade him to change the name of his team from this offensive term. I wonder what he would think if I, a "redskin," owned a football team called the "Keokuk Kikes?" Let's see how their match-up would be announced: "Sunday's game will pit the Redskins against the Kikes! Who will prevail -- those wielding the tomahawks or those wielding the Torahs?" Pretty unsavory stuff, to say the least.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 10/24/2007
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There is a def. sad and brutal irony to the current state of race relations in this country when it is true that the DC Football team is called the Redskins and this country is a product of European Genocidal practices levied against the Native American people: aside from murdering as many as possible and rounding the remaining onto reservation, every attempt to de-indian them was made and yet people run around with redskin and bubble eye Cleveland Indian hats.

Yet, this fact seems to be over-looked or forgotten by every other minority-or non-European-race, culture in this country. The Native American nations have survived on reservations since first created and not once do I hear other racial, religious, cultural minorities in this country say boo or recognize the plight of these people and lives. Go vist a resevation, one which has not profited from gaming, and look around and will see the rural poverty and all the ill associated with it.

With such a legacy, it is pretty humourous, pardon me if that upset anyone out there and do not want to undermine or be little your oppression, but ya know in light of what has happened over the course of this countries history from the Native American population to the African American populations, why would those in such groups think they would be treated any better than the original people of this country.

Ask most people who Leonard Peltier is, even most Americans, and will get a blank stare. Perhaps all the people in this country who believe their oppression and suffering was the greatest or most significant should all get together and focus a campaign upon the release of Leonard Peltier and then maybe I will be impressed.

He lives in Leven Worth, Kansas at the
Fed Prison and is scheduled to spend the rest of his life there as the result of a court case which would be thrown out the door today.

Yeah, its tough living in America, go tell it to an Indian.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 10/24/2007

Read "Our Hearts Fell to the Ground"... I can't without crying at the realization that the "pioneers" were no different than the Spaniards, the Nazis and any other society that thought and thinks genocide and torture of native people is acceptable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 10/24/2007
- gevan I'm a Fan of gevan 19 fans permalink

I doubt that Keokuk has a big enough fan base to support an NFL team, but I do think Cleveland should retire Chief Wahoo. Their last WS champions sported a simple "C" on their caps, not that cartoonish Native-American head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 10/24/2007

a cousin of mine was looking up family history at the Nova Scotia Archives

one of the staff there said, "We're all related - even the Chinese"

you, the reader, may be more closely related to Cheney, or Obama, or both, than either is to each other

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 10/24/2007
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Speaking of politically incorrect, this morning a Denver newspaper has a headline calling Rudy a "traitor". Shouldn't Congress censure this newspaper like they did over Petraeus?

Oh- wait a minute. He was called a "traitor" because he's rooting for the Red Sox instead of the Yankees. Or something like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 10/24/2007
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 25 fans permalink

Holy sweet crap. The USA is an absolute dishonest mess because of political correctness and other absurdities.

I am half Jewish and kid people about my side profile Jewish nose.

America, please get YOUR head out of your ARSES.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 10/24/2007

Um... Jewish is a RELIGION. What is your NATIONALITY?

Somehow, somewhere in history... Jewish became a nationality.... when in fact, it's just a religion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 10/24/2007

I meant to say "jewish" is a religion.... or judaism if you will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 10/24/2007

Aren't Jews a tribe?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 10/24/2007
- hip dibler I'm a Fan of hip dibler 11 fans permalink

i'm sorry, but we've fallen and we can't get up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 10/24/2007
- gevan I'm a Fan of gevan 19 fans permalink

Which half? Left or Right profile?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 10/24/2007

Many years ago I worked for a marketing agency (run by all Jews). I was in the middle of reading "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", when one of the VP's told me all I had to know was "that everyone hates Jews!" I told him, "you're right S....I only have half a friend because I'm half Jewish!!!"

One grandfather was from Wales (the only Jewish family in the town of Port Talbet), one grandmother from Poland (when it was occupied by Russia), the other grandfather was Spanish, the other grandmother was Mexican, one brother is married to a Japanese woman and my ex was technically a Black man (even though he had blond hair and blue eyes, looking more Irish). Gee, I wonder which group I CAN'T make fun of!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 10/25/2007

To prove how absurdly inaccurate our language has become to placate those who are "offended" by clear, harmlessly direct words: Charlize Theron and Dave Matthews are "African-Americans." What's that you say? You didn't know Ms. Theron and Mr. Matthews were black? They're not. They're both American citizens who were born in South Africa. I wonder how U.S. census takers chalk that up. As a culture, Americans are the caricature version of "The Simpsons": ridiculous, but unfunny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 10/24/2007
- gevan I'm a Fan of gevan 19 fans permalink

Not to mention the 2004 Democratic candidate for first lady.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 10/24/2007
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Many of the most famous Jewish commedians in show biz history have made a career out of making fun of their Jewishness. Blacks like Richard Pryor and Chris Rock liberally sprinkled the "N" word throughout their acts. The unwritten rule seems to be: You're allowed to make fun of your own, but how dare an outsider tell the same joke. My Polish father loved a good Polish joke, and my Hungarian mother used to make fun of her "Hunky nose." My Italian girlfriend used to refer to her relatives as Guidos. It's a universal double-standard shared by all groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 10/24/2007

After returning from a trip to Africa, in his famous Live on the Sunset Strip concert film, Richard Pryor publicly disavowed use of the "N" word, saying he'd never use it again.

Following the Michael Richards incident, Pryor's former head writer Paul Mooney disavowed his own use of the word, after 25 years of using the word in his act since Pryor stopped.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 10/24/2007

Really? I personally DO NOT like Polish jokes, as it berates my heritate. I am 100% Polish, NOT Polish/Catholic, and no one in my family thinks being called stupid via a joke is funny. Perhaps if I changed my heritate to "catholic", there wouldn't be so many Polish jokes flying around.

Do any of you people realize that Judaism is a RELIGION and not a nationality? People choose to be jewish. One does not get to choose their nationality...it is the place of their birth.

When someone calls themselves "jewish" do they mean they are Israeli? I have Israeli friends and family who do not practice the jewish religion... and they call themselves AMERICANS. How about the rest of you who claim to be "jews".... where are you really from? Or do you not have a country whose heritate you're willing to admit or proud of?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 10/24/2007

...i meant... or BE proud of?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 10/24/2007

"Us" people do realize that Judaism is a religion. We also are of the view that we are a nation. You do not seem to understand that there is a difference between nation-state and nation.

You're Israeli friends who call themselves Americans, assuming they are citizens, ARE Americans. However, it does not mean that are not part of the Jewish nation. Which, through conversion, anyone can be a part.

Are you also suggesting the Jews do not have a heritage to be proud of?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 10/24/2007

Damn - who cares - we all need a little laughter in this crazy world and laughing at yourself is a good start. All this political correctness is whats causing a lot of the worlds problems. I heard someone last week saying "urban people". Guess who he was talking about. Maybe all the world should "Be a Clown", and maybe we need a little "Blacklash Blues." Every country that has immigrated here has put up with the slurs, i.e. Italians, Irish, Blacks, Asians, and now the Mexicans. You would think that each race would have learned the pain of those words and not passed them on to another group. The hate words belong to all races. We all need to clean up our act. It is the words that hurt, and we can change that. We can't change a persons features, I'm short and they wrote a song about me. I better laugh or I'll have a laugh of misery. LET HOLLY ALONE LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 10/24/2007
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This is not a Polish joke and I don't want to get your dander up, but what on earth is a heritate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 10/24/2007

I agree with you. I think Polish "jokes" and all ethnic "jokes" in general are offensive.

These Polish "jokes" that portray Poles as having subhuman intelligence came from German Nazi propaganda.

Its ironic that a bigoted element in TV/Hollywood decided to push this bigoted stereotype via its movies and shows to the American public which started in the 1960's and 70's.

I think Jay Leno months ago should also have deleted Don Rickel's Polish "joke" about Poles having subhuman intelligence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 10/24/2007

You maybe right that only people of a given ethnic group can make a "joke" about that group.

Many Polish people and Polish American groups are offended by Polish "jokes" since these "jokes" originated from German Nazi propaganda. The Nazi Germans would make "jokes" about Poland being intellectually inferior at best and having sub-human intelligence at worse, since the German Nazis knew how active they were killing off Poland's educated class to prevent an organized resistance.

Its ironic that a bigoted element in Hollywood and the TV media would introduce this anti-Polish bigotry to the American public in the 1960's and 70's, through their portrayals of Poles in their shows and movies.

As for Halle Berry's "joke", I can understand how Jewish people can be offended by it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 10/24/2007

You are correct. It was the Nazi propaganda that pushed for the attack of Poland from the West, while Russia attacked from the East. It started with the 10,000 military officers being dragged from their homes and executed.... although I believe it has come to light that Russians were responsible for that.

It's always easier to eliminate anything and anyone that you classify as SUB. It was done with blacks here in the US. Anyone remember Dr. Morton's write up in a NYC newspaper of how he did a 'study' that showed they were intellectually inferior? Google it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 10/24/2007

although, as conan o'brien recently pointed out on his show, some groups are perfectly ok with others pointing out their stereotypes. case in point, he had an irish father and son in his audience, and he made a joke about drunk irishmen. the two of them just about fell out of their chairs laughing, and conan commented something along the lines of "see, you point out a jewish or african american stereotype, and people get all pissed off. you point out an irish stereotype, and they're like, 'well, yeah, you've got a point.'" and i personally know plenty of gay men who call other people fags (and yes, in the derogatory way). it's ridiculous that people still get offended by these things if they aren't meant offensively (which is where it gets sticky of course, but some stereotypes are stereotypes because they tend to be true in the general sense; like drunk irishmen and big nosed jews).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 10/24/2007

I kinda see both sides here, but it does seem a shame to make such a huge deal of it. As a Jew I do feel offended sometimes when non-Jews make a remark that would be funny if told by a Jew. It's hard to explain a double standard! Speaking of noses, my late father-in-law, in remarking about a woman we knew who had a "nose job" said that "she cut off her nose to spite her race."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 10/24/2007

BLOGMOMMY WROTE: ...in remarking about a woman we knew who had a "nose job" said that "she cut off her nose to spite her race."
THAT'S A GOOD ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 10/24/2007

the thing is... Halle Berry:
1. Not so bright
2. Not gonna be able to adhere to public standards of what's ok and what's not because she lives in a bubble.
3. Has issues--emotional and psychological
4. Is pretty
5. Is not worth taking seriously, nor has the 40 seconds I spent typing this comment about her been worth it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 10/24/2007
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Kyleb, you have the mark of a true bigot. But you have carefully sequestered groups of people who you think it is ok to hate: unbright, sheltered, good looking, emotionally unstable. If we scratched the surface, might we find that you are holding back? You are a poster child for political correctness. How 'bout giving somebody a break? Halle Berry is not the enemy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 10/24/2007
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When as a teenager, I lived with my family in a poor mostly Irish Catholic neighborhood, my mother, who was Jewish, has a smallish pug nose. Her neighbors and customers told her she couldn't be Jewish. She also spoke with a slight English accent (where she had come from). Her insistance of her Jewishness not withstanding, her neighbors continued to speak of her as Jewish? Such are stereotypes; they are hard to remove from one's background. It wasn't as if the neighbors were overtly anti-Semitic; they were applying the same stereotypes as others give to Polish, Irish, African-American(see O'Reilly). It's part of our multicultural heritage.
In Rome, by the way, I have been approached as Italian;in China as Taiwanese(slanty eyes), and so forth. And I don't have a big nose, now or ever.
Yet, my sensitivity does not extend to that physical attribute. I get incensed instead when anyone, Jews included, refer to our love of money. That is a throwback to the Middle Ages when Christians could not charge interest and Jews could.
Most of the Jews I know have more interest in the Arts, Education, Altruism, and Health than other peoples. But that's just my bias, isn't it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 10/24/2007
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The danger of the apparent demand that everyone be "politically correct" is that it plays into the hands of those who would use "divide and conquer" tactics to gain control over the nation.

People like Karl Rove, for instance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 10/24/2007

Chill, people. There's a craptacular war in progress. My husband is Jewish. His nose is much bigger than mine, but if it weren't, he'd look like a girl. He is actually a chick magnet, so stay away, stray poultry.

And, again, oh, please. Almost every girl I went to high school with got a nose job. I will let you guess their collective ethnicity. (And, believe me, I don't blame them. I have a little straight button nose ... and I still don't like it all that much.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 10/24/2007

Oy vey. Much ado about nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 10/24/2007
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I agree, wholeheartedly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 10/24/2007

A nose by any other name is still a nose. Lighten up America, there are more important people to fry!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 10/24/2007

A nose by anyother name would smell. Is that what you mean?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 10/24/2007

I wonder if Barbra Streisand would be taking all this heat if she had said "This one makes me look like my gentile cousin."

Is this "horror" going to replace Brittney and Anna Nicole in the smut news now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 10/24/2007

Obama is related to Cheney? Poor bastard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 AM on 10/24/2007
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