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The first commercial should have been for "Depends".
NEW POLL IN MICHIGAN: OBAMA IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE AGAINST MCCAIN.
Barack Obama leads McCain in Michigan 43 to 41% with 8% undecided, but Hillary is losing to McCain in Michigan 46 to 37%. Barack Obama is clearly the Democrats strongest candidate against McCain in the general election. I copied and pasted the poll below, and the Link is here:
http://www.mlive.com/elections/index.ssf/2008/04/obama_does_better_against_mcca.html
Monday April 14, 2008
LANSING, Mich. (AP) -- A new poll shows Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama doing better against Republican John McCain among Michigan voters than Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton.
The poll by Lansing-based EPIC-MRA shows 43 percent of the 600 likely voters polled back Obama, while 41 percent back McCain. Eight percent say they'd vote for independent candidate Ralph Nader, while 8 percent are undecided.
McCain leads Clinton 46 percent to 37 percent. Ten percent say they'd vote for Nader and 7 percent are undecided.
Fifty-nine percent have a favorable opinion of McCain, while 55 percent feel that way about Obama and 45 percent about Clinton.
The poll was conducted April 3-8. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
The last few pictures of Charlie and George surprised by being heckled after the debate strikes me as the culmination of the nights debate and its truth. It must be difficult being a real elitist who is offended when their shoddy journalism questions are subjective to judgment by average people. They act so surprised at being confronted over their comments, as if the room was full of elephants and not donkeys. George and Charlie believe people want to know gossip more than issues, kind of like Jesus believes wealth should be concentrated in the hands of a few people instead of broadly distributed. When will the Age of Philistinism end and the Age of Truth begin again?
I am very happy to see that our major news media is FINALLY being seen for what it has become. Our media has become a bastion for greed, money, and stupidity. Barack Obama distanced himself from the real elitists at the debate. The real elitists are Hillary, McCain, and the media. The elitists such as Hillary, McCain, and the media are all frosting and no cake. Barack Obama is the only candidate who has any substance, and he is the only candidate who can take our country away from the same old politics of fear and hate and in to a new era of hope and change.
VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA AND LETS GET A DEMOCRAT WIN IN NOVEMBER!
The Prilosec ad was very appropriate, as the moderators made me sick to my stomach.
Flattering shot of Ed Rendell.
Stick him on a southern porch swing with a mint julep in one hand.
Hillary: Queen of the drug lobby!
dead on!
*caps*
*bold*
this was so much about these asstards at Assinity Before Conscience network and not the election or the electorate.
Gibson and Stephanopolous: Little Disney Whores!
I think the Versus pretty much gave it away of what was going to happen
Among the million and one observations we can make from the pictures of last night's debate, is this one:
In the last several screen shots, we see the two ABC clowns against a set-backdrop, that certainly appears as though it's supposed to look like part of the U.S. Constitution (written in Philadelphia of course), specifically the beginning of the Preamble.
You can see the words "We the...", but for whatever bizarre reason, ABC (or their set designer) chooses to orient these most important Constitutional words, 90 degrees out from the left-to-right way they were written (and we as English-speaking People would read them: left-to-right)... those important Constitutional words are instead climbing foolishly upward, from the bottom...
What's up with that?
How idiotic a way is that, to invoke those important Constitutional words?
And as you can see from the screen shots, there's not enough room on the set backdrop, to include "People", as it runs out at "We the..."
What's up with that?
Can more disrespect be shown for our Constitution, in the city in which it was written?
The whole thing of presenting those important Constitutional words in such a bizarre and incomplete way, seems to instead say
"We the... idiots at ABC, care not enough about the People, by whom and for, the U.S. Constitution was written, to include them in our set design"
Exactly, it was left for the viewer to fill in the blank. We the sheeple?
Hey look guys! Woot! I told you guys that Hillary messed up last night.
You heard it here first. Council member and newly elected superdelegate Harry Thomas Jr., initially a supporter of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, is announcing in minutes that he will cast his vote at the Democratic National Convention in Denver for Sen. Barack Obama.
Thomas received more than 100 phone calls and e-mails from constituents who feared that he would use his power as a superdelegate to vote for Clinton despite the city's overwhelming support of Obama in the Potomac Primary.
"After meeting with the candidates and listening to my constituents, I have to honor the 83 percent who support Barack Obama," he said in an interview, referring to the results of the Democratic primary.
Thomas will make the announcement at 10 p.m. at a debate watch party.
that is the safest bet.
If elected Obama will fail, through no fault of his own, he seems like a decent human being, he just has bad policies.
Then all the super delegates, a majority of whom are elected democratic officials, cannot be blamed.
"I was only following the will of the voters."
Apparently, you have not read his policies.
Could you fill me in on the bad policies????
"If elected Obama will fail" is an echo of "If we leave Iraq, it will fail".
Like all true Bush supporters, you are willing to presage and predict to the end of time itself, but unwilling to offer a salient explanation WHY this prediction is any different from the previous thousand all of which were FALSE.
"He just has bad policies" is yet ANOTHER empty prediction based on the broken crystal ball with the GOP insignia stamped in the center.
Go back to the carnival and resume barking for the yak woman. She misses you and I hear she's a helluva good cook.
Randy
Thanks for this. I remembered some of the advertisers from last night, and was looking for a complete list. This is a nice start.
Ha! I was thinking "this debate is a crock of s**T" and then the Dulcolax commercial came on. I hooted in laughter.
So glad someone else saw the same symmetry.
Does anybody notice that out of the 9 products depicted 5 are drugs?
Ambien CR and Lunesta for insomnia in case watching this debate agitates you to the point that you can't sleep.
Benadryl in case you become allergic to watching ABC.
Prilosec to treat the indigestion and acid reflux you get after watching ABC.
And Dulcolax so you can pass ABC's crap.
As long as the Lunesta ad is the one featuring that lovely blonde school teacher working with her kids on a music project, they can run it over, and over, and over....
:-)
When I saw Senator Obama at a Town Hall in PA, he mentioned that one of the ways healthcare could be nationalized was by asking all parties involved to sit at an open door session. He pointedly brought up that he had no problem with the fact that pharmaceutical companies needed money for research and development; he had a problem with all the money they spent on advertising. This post supports that point.
Yep, you have your finger on the problem , Mike.
Sponsors pay for eyeballs, eyeballs stay glued when there is a scent of blood in the air.
Ergo craphole gotcha questions.
So are these the products we should be boycotting?
Boycotting--not so effective if it's just a few of us--but add on the phone calls and emails and you might just wake them from their drugs-induced stupor.
Suggest you start with your local ABC news channel, also contact the ABC network. Then call a sponsor or two. You can find them online, but I don't think I'm allowed to give the links here.
Quality TV? Not anytime soon, but we can begin to insist.
Commenting here helps. Choose your poison.
Heck, call your grocery store and tell them what you won't be buying and why. They get nervous really fast.
Just a single action by everyone who has yelled today on the HuffingtonPost will reach the ears of the networks, the sponsors, and the candidates.
What if the sponsors no longer want to play debate, then what? Maybe then the networks will be forced to invite The League of Women Voters back. I believe that would change the tone.
When the next election rolls around, let ABC know (if they are around to sponsor a debate) that you won't wait 52 minutes for a substantive question, that you'll be gone in five if you don't hear one or if the moderator doesn't pursue a real answer from the candidate.
We"ve got access. Let"s use it.
I think so.
I hope that somebody proves that Hillary was fed the questions in advance by George. It was so obvious. In the previous 20 debates she has never had such prepared responses to all questions. It was disgusting.
Where is the whistle-blower???
And if the softball questions that were thrown to her vs. the trashy questions that were posed to Obama wasn't obvious enough... How about the way the so called moderators interrupted Obama over and over as he was answering with 3 or 4 follow up questions. In comparison, Hillary did not get the same treatment. As a matter of fact Gibson was even insulting Obama saying that he "didn't feel like he got an answer from Sen. Obama" before asking Hillary the same.
Even the lighting was biased. The audience was lit in green except three Hillary supporters who had a nice favorable warm glow spotlight on them: Chelsea, Clark and Rendell. Which virtually every cut to the audience was a shot of them. Reprehensible!!!
Someone needs to investigate... this was an Obama hit job. Not a fair debate.
Shame
I disagree. I have been a fan of George's for years, even when he worked for Bill Clinton, and he is one of the most objective political reporters. Watching him over the years, and recently on his GMA segments, he has had some scathing things to say about Hillary Clinton during this primary season. George has a history with the Clintons, but the man is far too smart and savvy to ruin his own career for Hillary Clinton. I didn't hear all of these people spewing nonsense about Russert and Matthew's, or even Olbermann doing hit jobs on Hillary. Imus was right, Obama is a pussy! And I'm black, so that racist bullshit won't fly either.
Completely agree. He was set up! Sadly enough Hillary and Georgie just don't seem to get it that this usually doesn't bode well for her. It ALWAYS backfires and ends up costing her. Idiot. This was shameful and she knew exactly what was coming at her at all times. Can you imagine the tears she would be crying had this been done to her? Get her out NOW. It's time to get on with the people's business of electing a president and making darn sure it IS NOT McCain.
Right on! I went straight to Hillary's website and told her she's a cooked goose, stick a fork in it. And that I proud to be volunteering for Obama's phone bank. This morning I got a thank you note from her campaign suggesting I switch to the losing side. What a laugh!
I started reading commentary before 8 p.m. so I didn't watch. I guess noone asked George why he let Hadley get away with the 'Nepal' references on his last Sunday show. I guess media doesn't know the difference between Tibet and Nepal either.
My vote for best picutre - the products, and the fact that there are as many pics of the pretty boys as of the candidates, maybe more.
I am bitter in San Francisco.
The pictures speak a thousand words don't they?
Thanks!
That is exactly what ABC/DISNEY put on the air.
The last ad should have been from Royal Crown as we all needed a shot.
Well done!
i was reading the comments before the tape delay on west coast_ so i was expecting AWFUL
but I was not prepared for what was really SAD... watching charlie gibson "jump the shark"
all he needed was fonzies leather jacket and the pictures would be perfect
shame on abc_what a horrific abuse of airtime
perhaps under president obama, america can return the public airwaves to the public for intelligent, inclusive and thoughtful
discussions of how to solve our problems and make this world a better place...
regime change is in order not just in the white house, but at abc news as well
Not if there American Idol well there public get Intelligent inclusive and thoughtful discussions :D
"perhaps under president Obama, America can return the public airwaves to the public for intelligent, inclusive and thoughtful
discussions of how to solve our problems and make this world a better place...
regime change is in order not just in the white house, but at ABC news as well"
Yes! Real news, information and conversation about real issues with no corporate involvement. What a concept!
Posted April 17, 2008 | 11:46 AM (EST)