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Are There Limits to Forgiveness?

Posted: 12/27/11 10:42 AM ET

A 2009 research study concluded that North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il sported the same "big six" personality disorders as Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein. Of the six -- sadistic, antisocial, paranoid, narcissistic, schizoid, and scizotypal -- Jong Il's "highest rated item" was sadistic personality disorder.

The images of North Koreans weeping over the announced death of Dear Leader had me wondering whether forgiveness is sometimes a form of brainwashing -- and if so, whether our brains might benefit from a warm bath from time to time.

I once had a blind date with a woman who'd renounced her Jewish name in favor of a one-syllable spiritual moniker and was in the throes of what she called "forgiveness treatment." What sounded to me like a nutty mash-up of dharma, karma and quite possibly pharma had, she said, largely freed her from being judgmental, with the result that she'd forgiven her parents for any and all imperfections. Now, she added without irony, she faced the final challenge: forgiving Hitler.

I found that combining our search for the final solution in dessert choices with debating the Final Solution was unromantic, and that first date was our last. I now think that had I been less judgmental of this smart, sincere woman, I could have learned something.

The question of "forgiving Hitler" is central to veteran Buddhist practitioner/teacher Ken Green's forthcoming part-documentary/part-fiction film The Fourth Moment. The protagonist's mother is an Auschwitz survivor who reveals a dark secret about his biological father's past, which sets in motion a struggle to come to terms with fundamental questions of evil, judgment and forgiveness.

As part of Green's research, he attended -- and shot footage of -- a five-day meditation retreat at Auschwitz organized by Zen activist Bernie Glassman. The ghosts of over a million victims hovered as the 100 or so retreatants, some of whom were the children of Nazis, sat in silent contemplation and participated in group discussions about the horrific events that took place on those grounds.

Green traces the genesis of The Fourth Moment -- which he and partner Lin Dunbrack are slating for a Spring 2013 release -- to a dinner conversation 35 years ago with Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, who may be the only womanizing/chain-smoking/very heavy drinking Enlightened Being in recorded history. The subject of the new documentary Crazy Wisdom, Rinpoche brought Shambhala Buddhism to the West and founded Naropa University. (Green was a Naropa co-founder and longtime board member.) His teachings emphasized that each human being possesses "unconditional goodness," though this fundamental "Buddha nature" can get severely corrupted in the material world.

I asked Green about "unconditional goodness." Does it mean that evil doesn't exist at all? What about Hitler? "Trungpa said if he was able to shoot Hitler to save others, he would have done it," Green said. "I feel the same way. This doesn't mean that Hitler was evil, but rather his pathology was so deep and violent that he needed to be stopped on the spot." He adds, "I feel forgiveness is a willingness to step out of the personal storyline and see how much suffering permeates all of us. It is not loosie goosie, love and light, but it is a willingness to see a bigger picture."

I love Buddhism and I'm all for forgiveness among us flawed humans. But only after unrepentant mass murderers who outstrip every definition of evil Webster's can muster are, to paraphrase President Obama, taken off the field.

A visit to the basement of a Franciscan monastery near Auschwitz showed Glassman's retreatants how art can be a healing force for victims of severe atrocities. There they viewed the work of one of the first transports to Auschwitz, the late Marian Kolodziej (1921-2009). Kolodziej -- the subject of the 2010 documentary The Labyrinth -- survived the death camp, but never spoke of his experience until five decades later, when he began to work through his grief by creating a set of astonishing drawings and art installations that make Hieronymus Bosch look like Disney. (That's art from the heart, of course -- not the perversion of creativity spawned by "movie buff" Kim Jong-il when he kidnapped a director to make a propaganda film.)

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observed that Kim Jong-il's mourners wept because those who failed to mourn the previous Kim's death were punished for insufficient devotion to the Leader. Let's hope contemporary North Koreans can find a way to express their real sorrow -- and, if they choose, forgiveness -- for the suffering they've endured at the hands of a vicious sadist.

 

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A 2009 research study concluded that North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il sported the same "big six" personality disorders as Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein. Of the six -- sadistic, antisocial, paranoid...
A 2009 research study concluded that North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il sported the same "big six" personality disorders as Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein. Of the six -- sadistic, antisocial, paranoid...
 
 
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08:27 PM on 12/30/2011
There are limits to forgiveness, sure. For example, I say to myself, I'm not going to forgive anyone who has not expressed sufficient remorse for their action. So I am the sole arbiter of what actions are wrong and of sufficient regret and remorse. I have appointed myself judge of the world, or God. So now I have created a limit to forgiveness for myself.
The question we should ask ourself is, how much happiness and inner serenity do I want? How much ending of my own suffering? For not forgiving means not letting go of anger and resentment, does it not? To forgive does not mean to condone an action, it means to let go of inner anger and resentment.
So the only limits on forgiveness are self imposed limits, otherwise forgiveness is unlimited. If I want limited happiness and peace, then I should put limits on my ability to forgive and, voila, I will have limited happiness and peace. If I want great happiness and peace, then I should practice great forgiveness.
Great forgiveness also does not exclude killing in the name of compassion for humanity, as Trungpa pointed out. I have always been intrigued by the story of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, an avowed pacifist pastor who became involved in a plot to assassinate Hitler for this very reason. This is a man of principle, for the highest principle is to give up your principle in the name of compassion for humanity.
There are no limits to forgiveness.
09:43 AM on 12/29/2011
Specious but important question, because people forgive whom they want to forgive, and they forgive to different extents, in different ways. We seem to have forgiven GWBush, Cheney, Kissinger etal rather preremptorily. Leads one to see that if it is us, we forgive quickly. If it is 'other', not so much.
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01:05 PM on 12/29/2011
I think many of us find it hardest to forgive ourselves.
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08:56 AM on 12/29/2011
Well there are dictators and then there dictators. I find the genocidal ones to be harder to forgive.
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01:01 AM on 12/29/2011
Could I forgive them? I hope I would find that capacity within myself. But they would have to be sincere in their remorse and I know I have the capacity for skepticism.
07:04 PM on 12/28/2011
I dunno whether to forgive, but we have to learn from our mistakes. The first thing is: Never give a person (or a group of people) too much power. And secondly: Be sceptical about your leaders/parties! Especially if you think they are good ones.

But the main problem is: If there are hard times people will vote for radical parties. Hunger and misery makes the people to become rude, to kill each other, and so on.
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08:08 PM on 12/28/2011
As you say, in hard times people are more likely to cling to radicals for solutions.

Without the Wall Street Crash of 1929, and the subsequent world-wide depression, it is quite possible that the National Socialist Party would never have been able to get enough votes to become part of a ruling coalition.They never did get the votes of a majority of voters, until they outlawed the other parties.
10:54 AM on 12/29/2011
Exactly.
02:28 PM on 12/28/2011
You can forgive if you want to, as a survival mechanism if it's weighing too much on you. You can forgive for your own benefit...but you don't have to, by any means.
10:49 AM on 12/28/2011
In Judaism the way forgiveness goes is this: First the perpetrator of a crime or offense must admit that he or she did wrong. Then the perpetrator must try to make amends in some way. And then--and only then--can the victim of the crime consider the possibility of forgiveness. And it is only the victim who can offer such forgiveness. And the victim is not obligated to do so. The offender or criminal or--in the case of Hitler or Stalin or Mao or many others-monster-will also have to deal with receiving forgiveness from G-d. If someone wants to forgive a criminal that is his/her own business. But do not try to force that on others or make a victim or his/her family feel guilty because they are not able to forgive!
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08:20 PM on 12/28/2011
The German people have accepted responsibility for the actions of the earlier generation, have made monetary restitution to survivors of the Holocaust, and have outlawed hate-speech against Jews.

By contrast, the Japanese people still deny to themselves that they did anything wrong, have not made restitution to the civilian victims in the occupied countries, and since they do not admit that they committed the atrocities that everyone else knows full well that they did, they of course have not apologized for those atrocities.
09:01 AM on 12/29/2011
You make a very good point. Certainly I do not believe that Hitler or his followers deserve any sort of forgiveness. But I also do not believe that the current German generation should be blamed for what happened in the past.
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08:44 PM on 12/27/2011
I think I can eventually find forgiveness in someone who expresses true remorse. But not for the Hitler's and the Stalin's of the world, or their soldiers. I don't forgive anyone who gives in to such rage and madness, and spreads it all over the globe. And I don't forgive the ones just following orders. I think sometimes, they need to be taught not by diplomacy, but by use of the same medieval or monstrous experiments on them, as they comfortably used on men, women and on children. Sometimes forgiveness hurts more than it heals.
12:25 AM on 12/28/2011
Have you ever read Arendt? Or Milgram? The leaders might be deviant outliers, but their followers are pretty much like every typical human on the planet. That's what makes the things they do under orders all the more terrifying.
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04:32 AM on 12/29/2011
I'm interested in Milgram experiments...I must read Arendt
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08:26 PM on 12/28/2011
Most soldiers, of whatever country, really are just following orders. That said, there is a big difference between fighting for your country, as the current Catholic Pope did when he fought to preserve Hitler's regime, and actually committing atrocities.

After the war I worked alongside a former German soldier who had fought against Americans and Brits. He didn't work at a death camp, and he wasn't a member of the Gestapo or of the SS. Although the allies held many German army soldiers prisoner for years after the war, they were eventually released to go back in to civilian life.