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Independent Musician Joins YouTube Conversion Site's Battle Against Google

Posted: 07/26/2012 10:36 am

When it comes to the continuing debate over online music sharing, Alex Day seems like an unlikely champion for the cause.

Day, who utilized a sizable fan base on YouTube to springboard into a career as an independent musician, has certainly proven the power of the internet. His song, "Forever Yours," hit the No. 4 spot on the charts in the UK, and he's been profiled everywhere from Hypebot to Forbes. Furthermore, Alex Day has managed to accomplish all of this without being signed to a label. In an entertainment industry run by media conglomerates, every achievement he's made as an unsigned artist has been distinctly his own.

Because of this, Day has to work extra hard to get his name out to the world. Every single song sold on iTunes or elsewhere helps ensure that he can keep providing his music to the masses. So, when Alex wrote to tell me about the current battle between Google and a website that enables users to create free mp3s of YouTube videos, I was intrigued to learn that he eagerly lent his name as the one-millionth signature in support of the cause.

Ever since I last wrote about Alex, he and I have developed something of a transatlantic friendship via correspondence. Through our interaction, Alex has revealed himself to be an individual who values the uniting power of art, and it is from that perspective that I was able to understand his need to take a stand on the issue.

For a bit of background, the website in question, http://www.youtube-mp3.org, was recently threatened with legal action by Google. The web titan maintained that the site's ability to offer users mp3 conversion of videos veered dangerously into territory of copyright infringement. However, the site's owner, Philip Matesanz, hit back with lawyers of his own, citing the fact that his site doesn't violate the YouTube terms of service, because it operates outside of YouTube. Matesanz's rally against Google sparked an outcry amidst the internet community, leading to the creation of a Change.org petition, which demands Google allow conversion tools. The petition has garnered no small amount of support, receiving over a million signatures, with Alex Day being the digital autograph that pushed it over the edge.

"People make their own choices," Alex told me, "You can't make someone buy music just by taking away all the free options, no more than you can make someone buy books by shutting down libraries. The site shouldn't be punished for providing a service that plenty of people want to use with perfectly good intentions. For example, I don't keep copies of my videos on my computer, I upload straight from Final Cut to YouTube, so if I want to use an audio clip from something I've already made, I use YouTube-MP3 for that. This also works with free-to-use music, which is on the site."

With a logical defense from a user perspective, I still had to wonder: How would the ability to convert videos to music tracks impact Alex as an artist? When every song sold is crucial to his ability to continue releasing music, I wondered if he had concerns over potential loss of income due to fans that weren't willing to pay when they could get it for free. However, Alex was quick to dismiss this as an issue, providing me a detailed explanation as to why he believed it to actually be a positive tool for listeners.

The way I see it, you have three groups of people that want to get your music:

1) The people that will buy your music even though they know they can get it free, because A) they really like you/your music and want to support what you do or B) it makes them feel good to give money to musicians and be legal and above board. I call a typical girl in this group "Super Sally." YouTube-MP3 doesn't affect Sally, because she's happy to support you. Super.

2) The people who download your music for free because they don't like it enough to buy it permanently. I call a person in this group "Nervous Nancy." Nancy's not too committed to the music, she wouldn't pay for it, but she likes it enough to take it for free. Nancy will use YouTube-MP3 to download my music.

3) The people that will always download music for free because they love the convenience, they don't want pay for music, or they just can't afford it. I call her Freebie Freya. Freya will use YouTube-MP3 to download my music.

Of course, the ladies of numbers two and three (Nancy and Freya, if you're keeping track at home) are the "girls" the media conglomerates worry about. It's those people the major labels insist will bring doom and gloom to the entertainment industry and deny artists their royalties.

However, Alex was quick to point out that it isn't as nefarious as Google or the record labels would have the common man believe.

Taking YouTube-MP3 out of the equation -- Sally is going to buy my music just as she always did, so I get the same amount of money from her. Nancy didn't care enough to pay for it, so I'm getting the same amount of money from her... which is nothing. And Freya was never going pay anything anyway, she'll just listen on Spotify or download it from a torrent site -- or she'll listen on my website, where I make all my music available for unlimited free streaming. As with Nancy, I lose out on any money I would have got from her sharing the song with friends who might have paid for it.

In considering this argument, Day makes it clear that this would be a small loss, as the audience for his music would by and large remain relatively unchanged, conversion or no. It's because of these factors that artists like Alex Day are lending their support to online music availability options like YouTube-MP3. Rather than resist change, people like Alex are meeting it with open arms, hoping it will lead to new opportunities for them and their audience.

Day said in closing:

In short, the reason I support YouTube MP3 is because it's only affecting people who wouldn't be giving me money anyway. I don't think there's anyone out there who would stop paying 99 cents for a track of mine just because they realized they could get it for free some other way. Nobody needs ninety-nine cents that much. If they do, they're making the choice not to pay for music ever. At this point, everyone knows we can get stuff for free on the internet if we really want to, so everyone makes a choice. You choose iTunes or you choose YouTube-MP3. It's not like shutting it down will lower awareness of the idea of free music online.

 

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09:28 AM on 08/30/2012
I swear the more words I hear come out of Alex Day's mouth the more I adore him and the best thing is that everything he says makes complete and utter . . . sense.
if I download an album for free then it's because I'm not ready to commit to that artist yet, but once I've downloaded an album or a few songs, one of two things occur:
A. I realise I enjoy that artist and commit to buying they're future music.
B. I realise I do not enjoy the artist and I do not buy or listen to they're music

Every album I've ever purchased was only purchased after previously downloading the album [or any of the artists previous works] for free. 'Flyleaf', 'Paramore' and 'Eminem', they're three of my Favourite artists so as you can imagine I've purchased they're albums and as much as I love they're music now, I can say from the bottom of my heart that I probably wouldn't be listening to them let a lone supporting them by purchasing they're albums and going to they're gigs now.
In summary websites like 'YouTube-MP3' do more good for artists than bad.

Oh God I went on another mini-rant again >.
03:58 AM on 08/10/2012
Where I live you cannot access the iTunes Store, and my parents don't let me shop online, so I can't buy his music. But I make sure that I watch the official video on his channel, so that he still gets the ad revenue from Google.
07:56 PM on 08/03/2012
I've used youtube-mp3 twice to download music. Once to download a track I already owned on another hard drive and downloading it again was quicker. And once to download a track that was no longer available and could not have been bought first hand from the artist. I'm of the opinion that if you like an artist, you owe them the price you pay for their music
03:41 AM on 07/28/2012
I agree with the cause. If I like an artist I buy their stuff because I like to support them. Alex is a great artist and a great guy. Corporations are all against anything that COULD be used wrongly, even if it isn't.
07:22 AM on 07/27/2012
When i want just one song i will usually convert it from YouTube, when i want a whole album i WILL go out and buy the album, because i like having CDs. Its annoying because when like bands play new songs live and they aren't available to buy yet, i want to listen to it on my ipod so i will convert it because can i buy it anywhere? no.
04:30 AM on 07/27/2012
I bought 4 of Alex's songs but I use Youtube Mp3 often. I try to buy music to support upcoming artists and artists that I like, so that's why I bought 3 or 4 albums for my favourite bands, all these I could easily download for free. So after downloading so much for free you have to give something back to the artists you love.
09:20 PM on 07/26/2012
I personally don't use youtube MP3, but I use a (legal!) program that basically does the same thing, but I only ever use it to download songs by big artists who make too much money as is. But when it comes to my artists who are amazing, and not a HUGE name in the industry, (@thatalexday, Charlie Mcdonnell, @coollike, Chameleon Circuit @chamcircuit, PJ Liguori @kickthepj, etc.) I will ALWAYS buy their music.
08:20 PM on 07/26/2012
Sometimes what I do if I'm unsure about whether I like a long or not I'll use Youtube-MP3 or a similar site and listen to it for a while until I decide I like it. Similarly, I'll download the song for free and then wait until a full-length album comes out and buy the whole album.
07:20 PM on 07/26/2012
If Alex were correct, the fact that music could be obtained free would have no impact whatsoever on sales. And yet sales are declining rapidly. Why?

He forgets a fourth class of people between Sally and Nancy - people who like his music enough that they would like to have it, they might have been prepared to pay for it if that was the only way they can get it, but if there's a free alternative they'll choose that instead. Unfortunately for many artists, there are an awful lot of people in this category.
07:10 PM on 07/26/2012
i completely agree to this and is why i love alex as an artist and a musician if people were going to take it for free there just gunna stop listenign instead of paying for it atleast with youtube mp3 more people listen to the music all thats gunna happen when they shut stuff like this down it the music will lose a large group of people listening to it the least 3 musics i bought were greenday, ed sherhan and alex day even though i had all the options to download them for free i chose to buy them partialy for the music but mostly to support the artist casue i love them and want them to make more and i want to support them
06:17 PM on 07/26/2012
Alex is really thinking logically about this. I never thought about buying his music in this sense. I mean, I will continue to purchase his songs because I love them but it's just a cool persective.
06:13 PM on 07/26/2012
This is pretty much the reason why I think Alex is the most amazing person alive. Love him to death, and I actually just got his CD bundle in the mail today. I'm fully aware that I could've downloaded it, but I want Alex to continue making music, so that means I will continue to pay money for it. :)
06:10 PM on 07/26/2012
I always use youtube to mp3 because i dont have that kind of money to pay for the hundreds of songs I want to listen to but i have bought songs too, including Alex Days because I want to support him.
04:47 PM on 07/26/2012
Because Alex and many other artists make their music available for free from their websites or on Youtube, the people that are paying for a song vs. those downloading it for free will stay relatively the same. The only difference in the third category of person is the third person may download or listen to the song for free and at a later date go and buy the songs from a legit source like iTunes or the Play store. Sites like Youtube mp3 really don't make a difference when looking at who will and will not support an artist.
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02:53 PM on 07/26/2012
Pretty good logic but I think we're missing something.Yes, Sally will hear songs from Nancy, which she converted, and she might be tempted to buy them. But if the conversion process becomes widely popular and very easy, Sally will try it too. In the end no matter what you do, less and less people will pay for a-la-carte music.
The sooner the artists will accept not to make money from selling their music but from live shows and tee-shirts, the better
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07:46 PM on 07/26/2012
It's not necessairly as simple as that. A record company will pay for the recordings for an artist/band, which the money then goes to hiring the production team in the studio to record the album and then there's the post-production team like mixers and audio masters, then finally the artist who designs the album art itself.

Recording an albums is expensive and each person that is not the artist/band that has worked on the project expect to be paid some considerable amount of royalty when the album comes out. The label will take a portion of profits, and some of it will go towards anyone else who has worked on the album. Also bare in mind that sales will affect how a band will tour, as also record sales goes toward touring, which in of itself is expensive. Now the labels may help on this but this depends on whoever is the artist is, how successful they or projected to be and of course the size of the label.

Smaller independent labels are the ones that affected the most when it comes to piracy since I don't think many people are able to make the distinction of whether the music is from a huge label or a small independent one, which is where I think the argument of condoning downloading music for free falls flat.
09:07 PM on 07/26/2012
I agree with this statement for big big artists. Some (most, in my opinion) very big artists are very disconnected from their fan base, and they have a large population of Nancys. In comparison, a LOT of Alex's subscribers and fans are Super Sallys and will support them just because he recognizes his fan base as normal people who he cares for and wants to show appreciation. He has spent months making 10,000 individualized thank you videos to people who bought his CD.
(Sorry, I went into a bit of a rant there, haha) But you are right, artists need to focus on getting money from doing live shows, and connecting with their fan base.