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Romney Likes 'Being Able to Fire People' for Being Gay

Posted: 01/10/12 10:57 AM ET

Mitt Romney surely gave ammunition to opponents regarding his leadership at Bain Capital when he said during a speech on health insurance yesterday, "I like being able to fire people." But he also unwittingly underscored his position on discrimination against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people: He likes being able to engage in it.

You'd have to be living under a rock not to know that Mitt Romney has flipped-flopped on gay rights (like many other issues), and the pink flyer controversy is only the tip of the iceberg. That's why it's infuriating when some in the media allow him and other GOP candidates to say they "oppose discrimination" against gays even though they don't support any laws that would ban such discrimination.

Romney once believed it was so important to end discrimination against gays -- or at least thought he needed to convey that to get elected in Massachusetts -- that he said in 1994 if elected to the US Senate he would vote for the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would protect gays under federal law. He even said he supported a law banning housing discrimination against gays.

But by 2006, as he was gearing up to run for president, Romney reversed entirely, writing a letter to the Log Cabin Republicans: " I don't see the need for new or special legislation. My experience over the past several years as governor has convinced me that ENDA would be an overly broad law that would open a litigation floodgate and unfairly penalize employers at the hands of activist judges." Yes, he's more concerned now with discrimination against corporations -- they are, after all, people too -- than he is about discrimination against American citizens.

No one knows if Romney also now thinks that way about the same laws currently in place that protect people on the basis of race, class or national origin -- civil rights laws -- since he hasn't been asked. Nor has he been asked how he made such a radical shift on anti-discrimination laws for gays. There was no follow-up, no raising of his contradictions, at NBC's Meet the Press/Facebook Debate on Sunday morning when he claimed he was against discrimination, allowing him to come off as compassionate when he's as cold-hearted as the the rest of bunch.

Similarly, Rick Santorum stated at that debate that though he believes marriage is between a man and a woman he too is opposed to discrimination against gays. Putting the marriage issue aside (and how it is discriminatory not to let gays marry), Santorum wasn't then asked by the moderators why he voted against a federal hate crimes law that would include LGBT in then-existing hate crimes laws. He wasn't asked why he voted against federal employment protections for gays and lesbians as well.

Santorum speaks about homosexuality as if it is an affliction similar to alcoholism or drug abuse: We should have sympathy for these poor souls, but that doesn't mean their behavior should be protected under the law and thus encouraged.

Romney is saying something a bit different -- he doesn't frame homosexuality as a disease -- but it's equally troubling. He's put a gay person in his cabinet and made judicial appointments without asking about sexual orientation, he said at the debate, so it proves he doesn't personally discriminate and that he thinks gays can and do contribute much to society. But he obviously believes he and other employers should always have the right to discriminate against gays, otherwise it would be too much of a burden on business.

There's also the issue of "don't ask, don't tell," which Romney was in favor of keeping in place right up until about a month ago -- after it was gone. How is this a person who doesn't support discrimination?

Some in the media might give Romney a pass and allow him to claim, unchallenged, that he opposes discrimination because they believe deep down he's a moderate on the issue, and unlike Santorum or Rick Perry, is not on an antigay crusade.That may or may not be true, but Romney is as captive to the base of his party as they are. Like most of them, he signed a pledge by the National Organization for Marriage to appoint antigay judges and investigate the group's critics for "harassment." And like the rest of the candidates, he likes "being able to fire people" for being gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender.

 

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Mitt Romney surely gave ammunition to opponents regarding his leadership at Bain Capital when he said during a speech yesterday on health insurance, "I like being able to fire people." But he also un...
Mitt Romney surely gave ammunition to opponents regarding his leadership at Bain Capital when he said during a speech yesterday on health insurance, "I like being able to fire people." But he also un...
 
 
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04:42 PM on 01/12/2012
"I like being able to fire people."

Good thing Romney lives in the United States where it is still possible to do that, at least in a few states out west that still have some liberty.
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JonB2057
Think, it ain't illegal yet!
Zippy1169
An Ever Evolving Man
11:47 AM on 01/11/2012
Plain and simple, the Christian Right is buying the Republican Candidates.
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Aurical
Trolls suck!
01:53 PM on 01/12/2012
Correction, they have BOUGHT them already.
Zippy1169
An Ever Evolving Man
01:55 PM on 01/12/2012
There may be a little hope for Huntsman. We will see.
04:43 PM on 01/12/2012
"the Christian Right is buying the Republican Candidates­. "

Cool. How much does it cost?

Who is buying the Democrat candidates?
09:08 AM on 01/11/2012
That may work both ways, we can fire him. When are we going to stop giving those people the job and find the right ones who will work for everyone and just the few? I know it's a pipe dream, easier said than done.
07:32 AM on 01/11/2012
"Romney Likes 'Being Able to Fire People' for Being Gay"

.....just be SURE NOT to cast your vote in his direction when you go to the polls...speak with your voice
04:44 PM on 01/12/2012
"sp­eak with your voice "

I can think of no other way ;-)
02:20 AM on 01/11/2012
Liberals seem to forget that OBAMA IS NOT FOR GAY MARRIAGE
03:12 AM on 01/11/2012
No, we're not that dumb. We know. But he is for ENDA, he signed the repeal of DADT, he's against DOMA. Light years ahead of ANY Republican candidate for president.
08:00 AM on 01/11/2012
Nonsense. He is not "for" "gay marriage". But, he is very definitely "for" "equal rights for gay people".
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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
02:06 PM on 01/11/2012
He also certainly isn't for annulling marriages that states have already performed.
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Ioan Lightoller
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01:02 AM on 01/11/2012
All these Republican wannabes are a disgrace with their desire to discriminate. Paul against racial minorities, and pretty much the rest with discrimination against everyone they can get away discriminating against, especially GLBT people. And for those who say we are not discriminated against, in 29 states it is still perfectly legal for GLBT people to be fired or evicted if our orientation becomes known and we still do not have marriage equality nationwide or on the federal level.
07:20 AM on 01/11/2012
You discriminate every day in a hundred ways. It's called choice.
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07:45 AM on 01/11/2012
Bad argument. Choice means taking one brand of toothpaste over another. It does not mean, "Hey, we don't like your kind 'round here! I ain't sellin' you no beer!"
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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
07:52 AM on 01/11/2012
Well, in most intelligent people's minds, there's a big difference between choosing an not to eat an orange because you don't like the taste and choosing not to hire a Black person because you don't like his/her skin color.

But then again, who ever said most Republicans or their candidates were intelligent.
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12:28 AM on 01/11/2012
Go easy on Mitt. He doesn't know what the heck he's saying any more.
05:14 PM on 01/12/2012
Has the community organizer ever had a clue!
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Scott Rose
12:12 AM on 01/11/2012
Romney would sign whatever anti-gay legislation a Republican Congress would send him.
07:57 AM on 01/11/2012
And at this point, he'd pretty much say or do whatever it takes to get elected, and at the moment that seems to mean that he has to shy away from gay rights. So sad.
05:15 PM on 01/12/2012
Thank goodness Obama has never done that!
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raker
11:59 PM on 01/10/2012
In Ron Paul's vision for America there would be no federal protections for anyone. You could be fired, or denied housing or counter service or hotel accommodations or anything for being gay. Ron Paul calls is liberty. Sounds like tyranny to me.
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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
07:52 AM on 01/11/2012
Not just for being gay. For the color of your skin, your religion, or any other reason.
04:49 PM on 01/12/2012
"or any other reason."

Exactly. It isn't liberty unless one has freedom to choose and to act.
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Contact1972
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11:04 AM on 01/15/2012
Agreed.
11:18 PM on 01/10/2012
Didn't Romney want to fire people period???
04:49 PM on 01/12/2012
"Didn't Romney want to fire people period??? "

No. He wants to fire people period.
10:02 PM on 01/10/2012
I don't really follow politics, so I can't say anything about Romney's views on gays and lesbians in businesses. But I have actually watched the video that included the quote about firing people, and he was not talking about gays and lesbians, he was talking about health care. Ironically, I learned this from another article on Huffington Post. Talk about out of context.
12:28 AM on 01/13/2012
In fact he was talking about insurance companies and the idea that we should be able to fire our insurance companies if they don't meet our expectations. Sounds like something I would say, how about you? I'm not a Romney fan, but I don't think it helps liberals to take statements out of context like this. Politicians say enough out of touch, bullheaded things and mean them. We don't need to make stuff up.
07:11 PM on 01/10/2012
Romney has said that anti-discrimination laws should be repealed, and that private individuals should be allowed to discriminate against minorities. He has also said that he "likes being able to fire people". But, I don't think he has actually said that he "likes being able to fire people for being gay".

The inference is clear in his other statements, though. Romney clearly is not a friend of the gay community.
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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
09:57 PM on 01/10/2012
"But, I don't think he has actually said that he "likes being able to fire people for being gay". "

And Mr. Signorile never said that he did.
04:52 PM on 01/12/2012
You: "And Mr. Signorile never said that he did. "

Title of article: "Romney Likes 'Being Able to Fire People' for Being Gay "

Well whoever wrote the title certainly said it and by doing so has misrepresented the truth. That's kinda almost the same thing as lying.
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Alois SaintMartin
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06:50 PM on 01/10/2012
Obama like being able to turn predominantly Working Class Catholic New England Neighborhoods into barren Desert Wastes ~
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Bob Kellerman
Let's have more sanity toward each other
08:06 PM on 01/10/2012
Wow! Which ones has he done that to, in his 3 yrs in office?
09:03 PM on 01/10/2012
i am interested too..what cities did he do this to?
07:34 AM on 01/11/2012
Notice how she dodges the actual question ....because she has NO facts of the matter
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antigaychristianssuck
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09:06 PM on 01/10/2012
I thought Jesus told you to give up all your possessions and follow him. Get going!
04:35 PM on 01/10/2012
This is a dishonest post. Taken out of context and not at all close to what he meant. No way to treat our next president.
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cable1977
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
05:17 PM on 01/10/2012
Could you provide examples (i.e. specific quotations from the article) of what Mr. Signorile wrote that demonstrates that he took Romney's quote out of context? I'm curious if you actually read the whole article, or did you just stop after the first sentence.
09:02 PM on 01/10/2012
Cable, let me explain why flacon thought so: First, Mitt Romney never said that he "likes 'Being Able to Fire People' for Being Gay ". And second, whoever wrote this article totally took that sentence out of context. THIS is what Mitt Romney said, read carefully:

“I want individuals to have their own insurance,” he said. “That means the insurance company will have an incentive to keep you healthy. It also means if you don’t like what they do, you can fire them. I like being able to fire people who provide services to me.

“You know, if someone doesn’t give me a good service that I need, I want to say I’m going to go get someone else to provide that service to me.”

If someone doesn't give you good insurance service, would you continue to be their customer ? Thank you.
04:55 PM on 01/12/2012
"Could you provide examples of what Mr. Signorile wrote that demonstrat­es that he took Romney's quote out of context?"

How about the title:

"Romney Likes 'Being Able to Fire People' for Being Gay"