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The Path Forward: An Emergency Summit on LGBT Rights

Posted: 04/16/10 03:03 PM ET

Next week in Washington I'm hosting an LGBT Leadership Town Hall which will be broadcast live nationwide on my radio program on Sirius XM and streamed online. The Path Forward, as the title of the event suggests, will look at the critical next several weeks and months in Washington at a time when many gay, lesbian and transgender people are frustrated with the pace in the Beltway, and are often critical about how their own leaders have engaged the White House and Capitol Hill.

Call it an emergency summit meeting, trying to get at what LGBT leaders have done, what can be done and what people should expect at a time when many believe Democrats have wasted much capital and may lose seats in Congress, perhaps stalling the gay rights movement for years to come.

President Obama's order this week to extend visitation rights in hospitals to partners of gay and transgender people was a welcome advance. And he did it literally with a few strokes of a pen, writing a memo to the Health and Human Services secretary. That underscores the fact that it could have and should have been done in February of 2009. The president has said he is a "fierce advocate" for LGBT rights, after all, and anyone so committed would have done whatever he could as soon as possible.

The president instead issued this order over a year later, on the very day that he headed to Miami, launching a fundraising campaign to raise money for Democrats in the mid-term elections. Gays have been a loyal constituency that has donated much to the Democrats, and some of us are boycotting the DNC because of the sluggish pace on LGBT rights, particularly on don't ask, don't tell repeal, passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and repeal of the Defense of Marriage act. A lot of people are wondering if Obama's hospital visitation announcement -- which did not offer any new rights of any kind -- is in fact all that is coming in 2010, as he has not pushed Congress for a repeal of DADT this year and hasn't spoken out on ENDA either.

And that's why I'm hosting this town hall in Washington, to talk about where things stand and how to move forward. On the panel will be Joe Solmonese of the Human Rights Campaign; Mara Keisling of the National Center for Transgender Equality; Rea Carey of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force; blogger and activist Pam Spaulding of PamsHouseBlend.com; Aubrey Sarvis of Servicemembers Legal Defense Network; and Richard Socarides, former advisor to Bill Clinton on gay rights.

Since literally the first day that president took office, with the Rick Warren controversy, there has been disappointment that boiled over into anger on several occasions, such as when the Department of Justice filed it's heinous Defense of Marriage Act brief in June 2009. The problem is with Congress as well, which has dragged its feet. A hate crimes bill that languished for over a decade finally passed last year but it was long overdue. A vote in the house on the Employment Non-Discrimination Act may finally happen in coming days - at least that's what we're told - but it has been promised since last summer. In the Senate, the prospects for ENDA are apparently not good. And the president isn't using his bully pulpit to push for it.
The same is true on "don't ask, don't tell" repeal. The White House has sent conflicting messages, with the president announcing his desire to repeal the law and the Pentagon launching a study on implementation. But the White House hasn't publicly called on Congress for a vote this year, before the mid-term elections when Democrats could lose seats, putting any vote on repeal off for years. And repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act - another campaign promise from the president - isn't even on the radar.

Throughout the past year and half LGBT leaders have sent conflicting messages as well, often praising the White House while, to some of us, not pressuring the White House hard enough on demanding votes from Congress.

So on Thursday of next week, from 2-4 ET, we'll be hashing it out at a town hall that will be aired across the country on Sirius 109, and XM 98, as well as online at Sirius.com. We'll be taking questions from the studio audience and from listeners on the phones and it will surely be a lively and spirited discussion. Hopefully, by the end, we'll have a bit of clarity on that path forward.


Author and columnist Michelangelo Signorile is the host of "The Michelangelo Signorile Show," which airs weekdays, 2-6 ET, on Sirius XM's OutQ, Sirius 109, XM 98. He can reached at www.signorile.com

 
 
 
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01:51 PM on 04/18/2010
Obama has done more for the rights of gay people than any other president in history. All the while having just a few other little things on his plate and all the hounds nipping at his ankles. I frankly am sick of all the whining. There is a difference between being impatient and attacking your allies.
02:27 PM on 04/18/2010
Funny, I was reading some stuff about LBJ today and LBJ (and others) felt the same way about black people and the Watts riots and the growing unrest in the North after the passage of the CRA of 1964 and the VRA of 1965.

So this attitude that a minority is "ungrateful" for the progress being made is nothing new. In fact, it's very, very old.
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07:17 PM on 04/17/2010
Gotta bounce, good talk today.

Peace,

J
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06:45 PM on 04/17/2010
4 questions (Please answer)

1) What do you want?
2) What is your plan to get it?
3) What will you take?
4) What do you bring to the table?
07:00 PM on 04/17/2010
1.) I'd like a fierce advocate for everyone's rights. Not just the LGBT community. I'd like someone who's willing to fight for their positions instead of throwing in the towel (or allowing his staff to throw in the towel behind his back.) I'd like some loyalty to the people that worked--money, votes, time and effort--to put him in office instead of a blind lurch to the right that has, to date, achieved the wonderful effect Democrats negotiating against themselves.

I'd like the audacity of hope. I'd like change I can believe in.

2.) My plan to get it? I thought working for Democrats was part of the plan. Now, I am only going to contribute my energies to proven progessive legislators and groups. (So yes to the progressive caucus and no to the DNC, etc.) And if that means I'm working for/funding groups that are fighting the administration on particular issues--so be it.

3.) I'm open to compromise--but that means BOTH sides of the arguemen give and take. It does not mean the left moves to the center and the center moves to the right. That is capitulation--not compromise.

4.) I once told my boss that I would bust my rump to help someone who was failing--but trying as hard as then can to do a good job. I won't lift a finger to help someone who isn't even trying. I feel the same way now.
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07:12 PM on 04/17/2010
And here is the problem. Let me focus on the first point for now. Your answer to the first question is why the LGBT community has no political skill. Ask women, ask blacks, ask, hispanics, ask any savvy political group and what they answer is something like, protect roe, beef up sexual harassment laws, economic development in the inner cities, better educational opportunities and schools that work, affirmative action... specifics. I mean real tangible things. What you just wrote as your answer is nonsense. I could care less whether the President is a fierce advocate I want better schools for black kids, I want easier access to higher education I want jobs that aren't being shipped over seas, I want real sht. Not for someone to like me. We campaign in poetry we govern in prose. You have to actually want something before you can get it.
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07:16 PM on 04/17/2010
Again, you thought it was over once we won the election? That is my whole point. You have to come to the table ready to work, with a clear mission, a clear sense of what you want and how to get it. This isn't a game. You need people who do this stuff for a living, whether they are LGBT or not. You need people who are pols and people who are wonks, and people who actually know what they are doing. Your heart is in the right place. I mean it really is. But your entire reality is centered around someone doing something for you, either doing what they said they would, or doing it because it is the right thing. Civil rights to come that easy, to anyone. They require serious political skills. My entire premise today and other days is that the LGBT community has to get serious about the political side of this fight. You are getting your clock cleaned and while I think your victory is inevitable that is just an opinion based on my personal desire for your success. The reality is that if you miss this window of opportunity it could be a generation before anyone is even close to helping you again.
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06:23 PM on 04/17/2010
No--you were not "crediting him."
You were stating "facts" not in evidence.
And I don't believe you are correct. It is highly doubtful that the religous right--who might enjoy Obama telling gays to kiss off--are ever gonna join him anyway. There are too many issues--like abortion--that would get in the way.
Again--that's my opinion. I try not to state "facts" that are actually just my belief.

Reply:

Obama got more evangelical votes than any Dem since Carter so your reading of his appeal to the evangelical crew is suspect at best. Next, your entire premise is based of a fallacy, which is that you help the President as a constituency. If that were the case than congress who needs the help, would be flocking to your standard and pushing your agenda instead of hiding in their office when your agenda comes to call. No one on the dems side outside of certain geographic areas, does better with LGBT issues than ignoring them. Your delusion that your are a net positive to the dem political process is so wrong that I can't even get into the opinion/fact argument.
06:39 PM on 04/17/2010
So what your saying is that the President and the Democrats would be better off telling the gay community to go away.

That concept is discredited by FACT that every time the gay community gets vocal--the White house trots out some initiative. Just like when they hurriedly signed the limited federal benifits when the DNC gay fundraiser was getting boycotted.

Just like when the White house sends out the hospitalization memo after the community gets riled up about the DADT brief.

Or are you suggesting they only want our money? That we could agree upon.
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06:58 PM on 04/17/2010
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Look it up.

Is it a secret that the LGBT community is unhappy? Then why on earth would you assume that the white house is reacting to that anger now instead of planning for it well in advance? Your belief that the President is making this up as he goes along is insulting as well as being simply wrong. I state that as a fact because it is one. Whether I can prove it to your satisfaction is another thing.
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05:39 PM on 04/17/2010
"President Obama's order this week to extend visitation rights in hospitals to partners of gay and transgender people was a welcome advance. And he did it literally with a few strokes of a pen, writing a memo to the Health and Human Services secretary."

ironic. when the president uses the "power of the pen" in this instance, it's hailed as a victory for humanity. but when thinking GLBT citizens make the same argument regarding DADT dismissals, it's "impossible".
05:46 PM on 04/17/2010
How many gay and lesbians will be affected by DADT? How many will potentially be affected by his memo to HHS. It is amazing how may gay people are acting like this is nothing. ALL gay people young old black white will be affected by that memo. It is beyond comprehension that gay people find this memo lacking.
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06:26 PM on 04/17/2010
i never said it wasn't a good thing. i was merely pointing out the hypocrisy that people like YOU have used to say "oh, he can't do that" when the "power of the pen" has been used with regard to dadt.

i didn't realize there was a quota of people negatively affected as a bar for supporting correcting a wrong.
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05:49 PM on 04/17/2010
1) no law against visitation just hospital regulations
2) stop loss has negative consequences
a) political will to pass a repeal dies
b) service men/women are warehoused not at their active duty stations
c) the military can refuse (and follow the actual law on the books causing a crisis)
d) the law is constitutional
i) it shouldn't be but it is
ii) congress makes laws the executive branch enforces them
iii) the law has been challenged in court and failed to win repeal
3) There are a ton of short and long term issues that stop - loss doesn't solve
4) The president made a political decision about the best way to win this issue
5) The LGBT community has never won on this issue or any other major issue listen to the president
06:06 PM on 04/17/2010
" The LGBT community has never won on this issue or any other major issue listen to the president"

Because we've been lied to by politicians. Including the president.
01:26 PM on 04/18/2010
"iii) the law has been challenged in court and failed to win repeal"

Actually, the Ninth Circuit has ruled that DADT is unconstitutional as a blanket policy. That is, the military cannot dismiss gay and lesbian servicemembers based simply on the premise that they COULD pose a threat to unit cohesion, they actually have to PROVE that the member's sexual orientation hurt morale. The case - Witt v. Air Force - is still pending, but could substantially scale back DADT if it doesn't get repealed before the case is resolved.
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03:53 PM on 04/17/2010
The gay community has launched a prolonged, virulent attack against President Obama since the 2008 election campaingn. There has been an endless list of demands, starting with Donnie McClurklin, Rick Warren, Prop 8, DOMA, DADT. No other group in the Democratic Party has beenas relentless in their invective, name-calling and animosity. We all were informed months ago that the GayTM is closed, and gays were not going to cooperate with the Obama adminstratioor vote for him if he runs for a second term. Black people were excoritated by the GAY community , at the same time gays were claiming their cause as the "civil rights issue of the day", and demanding support from the NAACP.

Why should President Obama wave his magic pen and give the gay community evertything on it's to do list? Why?
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05:43 PM on 04/17/2010
why? perhaps because it's the right thing to do.
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05:51 PM on 04/17/2010
I tend to agree with both you and the above poster. He is right about his reading of events and the reason the President must act on the LGBT issues is because they are the right thing to do. Mistakes have been made but we are all dems, and we are all interested in social justice for our LGBT brothers and sisters. No one here is thin skinned ignore the attacks and move instead to the politics of HOW we win.

J
01:52 PM on 04/17/2010
Can we define here precisely what "political capital" is and whether the President is actually spending it on gay rights and if so, how much is he spending?

For example, I think the hospital visitation memorandum that he approved of, while appreciated, required the expediture of little (if any) political capital; only the most rabid and loudmouth homophobes on the right wouldn't think that that's a good idea.
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05:56 PM on 04/17/2010
There is a supply of juice, good will, threats, power to close, that any incoming president enters office with. For typical presidents they get around a 6 month honeymoon where they can influence, even across the aisle. Captial is more than that, is it the willingness of people to listen, to be swayed, to come across not for their own interests but for what the Pres says if the good of the country or the party. So getting Snowe, Collins and Specter to vote for the stim bill took enormous capital. Getting the health care bill out of committee took enormous capital. The GOP wanted to wait a year. We pushed it out in August. People don't want to say no to the President. People on our said anyway. So when the President asked them to do certain things, even though they weren't happy, they did them. But that is not a limitless thing. At some point people are going to tell the President no and mean it.

J
01:14 PM on 04/17/2010
ooooohh, boy, Mike's thread is turning into a bit of a hot mess already.
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11:42 AM on 04/17/2010
PART IV

The LGBT community is horrible at politics. Before you go to the President and ask for help passing legislation you get your ducks in a row. You load up on votes, you have the breaking point legislative goals already researched and listed. You have people from multiple organizations ready to start lobbying and pushing. You have a war chest of tens of millions of dollars and a machine that is lean mean and ready to fight in multiple locations. You have a list of all the open senate seats and candidates to run for the seats. You have millions in individual funding and in DNC DCCC DSCC funding ready to go at the drop of a hat. You have people who can actually make deals sitting in the room and people the community will trust when they come out of the room and say this is the best we could get. The LGBT community did NONE of this. Not even close. Emily's List doesn't go into the white house and have no idea what they are talking about politically. They don't go in and say, women should be treated equally, they say, here is our legislation here are our cosigners and here is our money/political organization. We are ready to play. You have done none of prep work none of the structural work. When the white house, the most political place on the planet, sees you coming they see amateur hour. Get your act together
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02:00 PM on 04/17/2010
Our act IS together. We are in every community, in every job capacity, paying more in taxes than everyone else, and making the world and it's inhabitants more colorful and beautiful.
We shouldn't have to beg and scrape to get Obama to do the right thing. We are winning hearts and minds on the ground floor, yet being pushed back by a monstrous tax free church network.
It's us against the church, just like the blacks against the slave trade, yet where is Lincoln? There were allot of white faces during the civil rights era. Where are the straights to help our cause? Afraid to be associated, or just plain disinterested? The more people focus on our sex lives, the easier it is to objectify. We are objectified due to the "ick factor" which keeps us unequal for no good reason.
02:27 PM on 04/17/2010
You hit the problem on the head: The "ick factor" is why no one will touch you and your cause with a ten-foot pole..
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04:44 PM on 04/17/2010
1) Look, your act is so far from being together that it is comical that you just claimed you know what you are doing. Shouldn't have to beg. At what point did I write the word beg? You have to be political. You have to be smart. You have to have long term strategic plans.

2) Dude, read a history book. "I will have the union with slaver I will have the union without slavery but I will have the union." You aren't slaves and the comparison is insulting. But typical. Which is another reason you don't have your act together.

3) I've been writing about these issues for years now. I have posts and blogs where I make the following argument.
"no one who has ever won a civil rights battle in this country did it alone." There are millions of straight people who believe in your cause but are frustrated because you guys don't know what you are doing.

Finally, you are objectified because the majority of you are in the closet. I understand the reasons for passing, but there is a cost for it that is shared over the entire community.

J
02:33 PM on 04/17/2010
I'd say Rahm is horrible at politics.

He's using a 1993 playbook, and he's going to get 1994 all over again.

Instead of blaming the LGBT community, or progressives in general, why don't you blame the centerists who are going after the center right white male vote (which they won't get) at the expense of the progressives, which they will loose.

I'd like the see the following headline:

"White House doesn't learn from history. Rahm and centerists poised to facilitate repeat of 1994."

The centerist policies are a like a brain tumor--it will eventually kill the administration. And you're trying to blame and fix a headache.
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04:50 PM on 04/17/2010
Rahm is horrible at being a human being maybe, I don't know the man but he seems like an A-hol, but at politics he is about 35 - 0 while the LGBT community has yet to win a vote on ANYTHING. Take a page from Rahm's book on how to actually win a political knife fight.

The fact that you are gleeful about losing seats is emblematic of the problem with the LGBT community. Losing seats would actually help the President in 2012. He wouldn't have to pass anything else. He could blame the GOP for everything and reitre to the country and still win in a landslide in 2012. But it kills the rest of us. So instead of being happy that you are about to be screwed over by the system, again, you should be knocking on doors raising tens of millions of dollars for candidates and firing up the base in order to save your agenda. You will never pass anything if we get clobbered in 2010. So, good luck with that strategy.

Finally, you have to read what I wrote. There are basic things your community has failed to do. Over and over and over again, while demanding other people win your fight for you. It doesn't work that way. Sorry. Come to the table with real things you have to have and with real things you bring with you in order to get them.
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09:33 AM on 04/17/2010
PART III

He had formed what was going to carry him through to the end and into the first year of the white house. And the LGBT community, who should have backed O from the start, was left out in the cold. You weren't the only ones. The DLC was decimated the same way. The moderate dems were decimated the same way. That is why the Obama admin is filled with progressives for the first time since Kennedy. My point, you guys blew it. Sure the white house blew it with the DOJ memo, but Rick Warren was an attempt to find commonalities, to close the gap, and to put himself in a position to influence Warren, not the other way around. It was sophisticated politics, that would have worked if the LGBT community had been on board, but you weren't because you were out in the cold, screaming about prop 8 and how people should wear sheets to the inauguration and calling black people the N world and blaming us for the loss in Cali. And when the white house blew the DOJ memo you could have made them wear it, but you had already savaged the President for 3 months and his inner circle said, "f them if they can't take a joke," and moved on.
09:48 AM on 04/17/2010
great posts......maybe they can have u speak at the "emergency session."
I am sure rational and logical thinking will be lacking in that emergency summit.
These people remind me of the tea baggers. Screaming and yelling about things that are easily explained but they fail to listen.
As usual I luv reading your posts.
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02:01 PM on 04/17/2010
how did you get 189 fans with all that hate?
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02:11 PM on 04/17/2010
"Rick Warren was an attempt to find commonalities, to close the gap, and to put himself in a position to influence Warren, not the other way around."

Just like selling missiles to Iran was an attempt to influence the mullahs...
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05:25 PM on 04/17/2010
Wow. No. Look, Rick Warren crushed you guys in the Prop 8 fight. Obama was attempting to talk to Warren, who at his core is a political creature, and get him on board for several pro LGBT initiatives. DADT, Employment protection, hate crimes. Gay marriage was a no go with Warren but the LGBT community should have used him to wedge the people who hate you but aren't political. Instead they threatened to wear sheets to the inauguration to send Obama a message. Madness.

J
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09:32 AM on 04/17/2010
PART II

More, they had no one in the inner circle of Obama because for the most part they backed Hilary. Not maybe that was an institutional problem, maybe that was a NY thing, I don't know, but by the time the LGBT community jumped ship to the Obama campaign he had been the nominee for almost all of March April and May and the beginning of june. Normally here is what happens. A candidate loses 14 primaries and caucus in a row and then they drop out of the race. Hillary should have been out the first week of March, the two campaigns should have spent two weeks combining and you should have ended up with three or four people in the inner circle of decision makers. Instead, the structural part of the LGBT community stuck it out with Hillary, mostly because they believed like a lot of white people who stuck with her, that there was no way Obama was actually going to win. It wasn't until all hope was lost in May that the LGBT community started pulling away from Hilary and looking over at Obama. But it was too late.
03:59 PM on 04/17/2010
"More, they had no one in the inner circle of Obama"...

Gay democratic political operative Steve Hildebrand was with Obama from January 2007 as deputy campaign manager.

Nice try.
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05:35 PM on 04/17/2010
That is one guy. Were are the layers of people. That is like saying we had Valerie Jarret. We had Susan Rice, we had Melody Barnes, we had Desiree Rogers, we had 20 people not just one. That is the problem. That is my point. Steve couldn't be in every meeting, and he sure as heck wasn't in the Warren meeting right? The majority of LGBT supported Hillary and because of that, and because they stayed with her so long, when the campaign folded those people found themselves outside the decision making arena. Let me ask you a question, do you remember the criticism when the iPad came out? It was that there weren't any women in the room when the name came up because no woman would have let that go. That is what I am talking about, when someone suggested Rick Warren, whatever meeting that took place in, and we don't know which it was, Steve wasn't there. At the next meeting he wasn't there. By the time he was involved in the process what do you think he reaction was, "holy s*&t you can't invite that guy!" But they already had. That is my argument about access.
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09:31 AM on 04/17/2010
You bring up some of the major talking points of your community, the DOJ memo, Warren, timing and pressure. Let me go through them: Blew the DOJ memo but who do you think wrote it? The President? Are you kidding me? Some bureaucrat at the DOJ, who had been cranking memos out for the Bush white house and retained his position cranked out the same memo. The LGBT community was already in a weakened position, however, and was unable to capitalize on the mistake. Because you had attacked the President on Warren from the moment he was announced, and the President on prop 8 from the moment he was elected, you had no credibility left. Let me give you a reading of the situation with Warren. How is it that the LGBT community didn't know he was going to pick him? I knew? How? Because he went to his church like 5 times in 2 years. Because CNN hosted a fing 2 hour debate about religion with Rick Warren as moderator and both candidates participating. I knew. Because the minister that Obama had gone to for most of he last 10 years was untenable and he needed a minister, so again, I knew but the LGBT community was shocked.
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09:16 AM on 04/17/2010
I think the summit is a good idea, and more over due than the presidents memo. Here is what I simply don't get about the LGBT community. You guys aren't the first people to have a civil rights issue. You aren't doing stuff for the first time. So why in the world didn't you research what worked before you and emulate it? You think you did but you didn't. First, the suffrage movement is a much better model than the civil rights movement. The Suspect Class ruling in the 80s precludes the LGBT community from using the federal courts to win the necessary law suits to force any of the anti gay laws into the realm of unconstitutional. You want the President to do things with a sweep of a pen that is a bad idea. When Medicare passed in the 60s LBJ desegregated the hospitals. The rule that ERs have to treat anyone? That came from a memo and rule after an historic fight. Just like this memo did. What you wanted would have caused a fight and a challenge. Can the President order hospitals to do things... etc. What he did was roll it into a thousand new regs from the health care bill and it is done. No fuss no muss. You would rather lose on the issue as long as it would be a public struggle, than win on it quietly and that is why your community is getting its clock cleaned.

J
09:29 AM on 04/17/2010
I am not sure why the President does anything for people who do NOTHING but show contempt for the Pres and the adminsistration. I am getting tired of the Presdent going out of his way to help this group. All gay groups do is complain, complain, and more complain. They say they will not vote for him anyway,
It is time for the President to stop spending any political captial on a group who do nothing to support the administration.
Let them vote in the repubs who will do wonders for gay rights. At least Bush kept them quiet.
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09:52 AM on 04/17/2010
He's spent political capital on us, the GLBT's LOL? Saying the words 'hope' and 'change' while Joe Solmonese's head is up his butt does not spending political capital make! Giving us speeches about how one day we'll all be free is not spending capital. Defending DOMA is not spending capital. Doing nothing on the UAFA bill is not spending capital.

Dude, put the gin down already.....it's making you think like a crazy person.
03:57 AM on 04/17/2010
I had really expected that Obama would sign an executive order suspending the enforcement of DADT until the issue could be reviewed and voted out of existence. An argument could have been made for that move on the basis of "stop loss" without specifically invoking gay rights if the administration had needed some political "cover." The invitation to Rick Warren, subsequently found to be involved in the "death penalty for gays" mess in Uganda was a case of very poor vetting and a slap in the face to progressives generally. The brief in support of DOMA was nothing short of obscene. The excuse that the DOJ has to abide by the current law is a knee slapper from an administration that can't prosecute torturers or abide by the Geneva Convention. The Obama Administration could and should have spoken out against Prop 8. The mere fact that a memo on visitation rights for gay patients has to be written is a scandal in a "free" (LOL) country in which hospitals constantly crow about their "patient advocacy." So far the Dems have succeeded in passing Romneycare, continued two ridiculous wars, and propped up Wall Street. My advice? Don't hold your breath until these guys grow a conscience.
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09:09 AM on 04/17/2010
You can't suspend constitutional laws. If we do it your way two things happen. One the military refuses, and two the congress loses all will to even talk about it. You have to repeal the law completely not warehouse service men and women and forget about them.

J
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FearlessFreep
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02:13 PM on 04/17/2010
I think the military would have obeyed and Congress would have yielded.
02:58 PM on 04/17/2010
It's called a stop loss--which is perfectly legal.

And when you say you can't suspend constitutional laws--well--I'd suggest you tell the administration to stop using signing statements to do exactly that.
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
09:11 AM on 04/17/2010
The torture argument is nonsense. Because they burned the tapes, a really really smart decision, there is no proof that they moved outside the lines of the law. The DOJ told the white house that it could do certain things, they did "as far as we can prove" only those certain things. It is a non starter.

J
03:13 AM on 04/17/2010
While you have all of these illustrious members of the LGBT community together, why don't you also address, or at least acknowledge, the issue of racism within the LGBT community. If you think you are angry because President Obama has not provided for all of your demands in his first year, imagine how those of us who are minority members of the community feel? While several notable members of the community have raised this issue, such as Michael Savage, as a whole the community ignores it. Equality, after all, should begin at home. It is hypocritical to demand equality from others, while continuing to deny it to those of us in your own community.
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FearlessFreep
I'm actually a radical leftist
02:14 PM on 04/17/2010
That's like asking the black community to deal with their own homophobia.
08:24 PM on 04/17/2010
Glad you acknowledge the situation, sad that that you think your assertion justifies it.