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Is Effeminacy in Gay Men a Function of Nature or Nurture?

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Why do so many effeminate gay men prefer in their partners the very masculinity they've bleached out of themselves?

The obvious answer is that they're attracted to their opposites. But that answer only goes so far. Effeminate men may lust for their masculine counterparts but most masculine men don't return the favor.

Effeminate men get hoisted on their own chiffon petards. The more they take on effeminate characteristics the less able they are to attract the kinds of guys they want to sleep with. This is a mating absurdity.

Imagine birds trying to attract mates with red and white plumage when the objects of their affection are attracted to yellow and green.

The mis-matched mating call of the merry marys brings up a great question: If effeminacy is counter-productive to attracting the kind of sexual partners you want, then why not butch it up?

Is it because like being gay, being effeminate isn't a choice?

Nobody knows what fuels the gay flame -- nature or nurture. Some believe gay guys turn sissy because they're naturally nelly and some think it's because they're conforming to a culture that expects it.

I've always maintained that effeminacy is like obesity. Sometimes it's glandular, but mostly it's cultural.

There's an undeniable Pansy Vortex in gay life. You fall into it with baggy jeans and a t-shirt and climb out of it with spandex up the crack of your ass.

How else do you explain my ex-boyfriend "Larry?" Closeted when I met him, he was popular, gorgeous, smart and athletic. He was the be to everyone's bop. Then he came out. Everybody he hung out with liked to do drag and camp it up. Suddenly, Larry started shaving his legs, wearing tight shorts, and calling everyone "girl." He ripened into a fruit before my very eyes.

Larry slid into the Pansy Vortex and I couldn't do anything about it. One day he made me close my eyes and sit at the foot of his bed for a surprise. He pulled out a long black wig and a slinky Bob Mackie knock-off. And that was the end of that.

Now was Larry born with the desire to dress like Cher or did he just adapt to a culture that demanded it? After all, gay culture encourages effeminacy -- we venerate drag, often call each other "girl," love bitchy humor and consider camp an art form.

Whether the ability to walk with a lisp is in-born or lea rned, there's no denying that most nelly guys don't find other nelly guys sexy. A study published in the American Psychological Association showed a substantial number of effeminate-identified men who prefer masculine men for their sexual partners.

Even the nelly don't equate nelliness with sexiness. And that's a shame. Because there's something self-negating about taking on characteristics you don't want your partners to have. There are lots of ironies in gay life but none perhaps greater than this: Sissies are often the biggest sissyphobes of all.

 
 
 

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JonB2057
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11:52 AM on 08/22/2010
What is the purpose/point of having masculine/effeminate "role"s? Someone is already stating they are not attracted to members of the opposite sex, but they want the object of their affection to have those qualities???
04:22 AM on 07/28/2010
This is insane dude. I have lived in SF for thirty years, & I can tell you for a fact that people gravitate towards the scene that they enjoy, nothing more than that. To say that "gay culture" creates peer pressure to do drag is ridiculous. It's there if you want to do it, but it's hardly expected. Personally I find extreme masculinity unattractive and I like guys who are a little bit nelly. There's people out there that like just about anything. Telling guys to butch it up for sex is just the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The whole point of the gay movement and all the sh**t that people had to put up with all these years was exactly so people could just be themselves, whatever that happened to be. People are attractive when they're authentic, not when they're pretending to be something they aren't.
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04:18 PM on 07/26/2010
Mostly what I take away from this essay is a chuckle that Alvear considers himself one of the 'masculine gays' and therefore superior to a more feminine gay man.

Misogyny much, bro? (The more masculine among us gay men like to throw out 'dude' and 'bro,' ya know, just for full effect...)

But since he seems to feel that it's worthwhile to create sub-sets of gay men, I'll simply ask him which column he places his own name under and how that effects his life.
12:45 PM on 07/26/2010
I agree with the article. If you don't take it as a generalization and more as a subculture of "gay culture" it's spot on. I think most of the guys I meet are in the middle of the classic definition of masculine and feminine. I think as gay me we retain the cultural definition of masculinity while being able to explore the feminine things that engage us. There are a group of men that lean towards the feminine spectrum. At the same time whats in right now is masculine men. So if masculine men are the current standard of attractiveness (generalization, which means it probably doesn't particularly apply to you) where does that leave feminine men? They may find masculine men attractive but at the same time the features that they don't find attractive are ones they exhibit. In the end it comes down to nature vs nurture. If it's nurture how can we find femininity in gay men unattractive, not change how feminine we are, and expect people to be equally enthralled by us. If it's nature we have to ask "If it's natural for gay men to be feminine why does "gay culture" ostracize it instead of embracing it?". Really isn't that simple I know.
06:35 PM on 07/24/2010
I can only speak for myself. I remember how shocked I was the first time I heard my voice on a tape recorder. "I sound that nelly!?" Wow. After that I made a conscious effort to deepen my voice. I can also remember physically attempting to keep my wrists stiff--God forbid I have limp wrists. (Shades of La Cage Aux Folles in the scene where Zaza tries to walk like John Wayne!) My efforts must have paid off. I was able to get through a career in the military without detection. Now that that's behind me I'm free to flail about all I want to. But I just don't have the desire!
06:54 PM on 07/24/2010
And that's what it's all about: Killing the desire.
Would you put people down who do have "nelly" voices or "limp writst"? That's what Alvear is doing here. He's an Uncle Tom sucking up to the guys who don't have the balls to be identified as gay but can't seem to stop sleeping with men. I'm glad you feel like your "efforts paid off" but I'm sorry if you think that other people need to change similarly in order to be acceptable. I'd rather know a man for who he is than for who he pretends to be.
07:09 PM on 07/24/2010
I said I was speaking for myself. I don't believe people have to change their natural inclinations. I have plenty of friends who are less than butch and I'm thankful for them. Their happiness makes them better people. My efforts in 1962 were directed at "fitting in" in the service. Perhaps when they repeal DADT this will no longer be an issue.
03:20 PM on 07/24/2010
While the subject of masculinity and sexual identity is a very real topic of discussion and even study, Alvear's posting just screams out a very bitter "NOTICE ME NOTICE ME!" I am not sure exactly who the masculine "Hot Guy in the Corner" was that rejected Alvear once upon a time.. but clearly he is still trying to get over it... and isn't there yet..
02:25 PM on 07/24/2010
I signed up just so I could chime in with those who find Alvear's article offensive, divisive, and scornful. It's downright retro in its gender theory. Anyone with politics this shallow (his books offer advice on bedding 'hotties') should avoid speculating other people's complex gender/sexuality experiences. At least read some recent scholarship first. There seems to be a gaining backlash against feminine men lately, e.g. the Newsweek article about Sean Hayes (http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/30/straight-jacket.html). At root this contempt for femme men is misogynistic; Alvear's speculations support, at least indirectly, our patriarchal culture's long history of debasing all persons female or feminine. I am pleased, though, to see so many folks speaking out against Alvear's bullshit. The Huffington Post should demand more earnest research and better writing from its contributors.
01:53 PM on 07/24/2010
Why can't we all just be considered sexual beings and leave it at that? So much wasted time by judgmental pigeon-holing puritans.
08:24 AM on 07/24/2010
What a loathsome thing to say. Divisive, narrow and mean-spirited. Feminine/masculine are not absolutes. Even in this era, and within the U.S. the qualities of each have more to do with the person interpreting them than the individual being judged. Furthermore, Alvear's labels and his obvious distaste for what he considers to be effeminate are only indicative of his own insecurity and misogynistic hangups. Conformity is not the ideal, it's the epitome of spinelessness. Why stop at condemning some gays for being effeminate? Why not go whole hog and just condemn them all for being gay?
05:05 AM on 07/24/2010
What happend to what's inside that counts?
08:23 AM on 07/24/2010
"what's inside that counts" Oh please. That is the most common complaint from people who are rejected by individuals whom they long for because they are attracted to what such individuals have on the outside (such as youth, fitness, masculinity, or looks). If just what on the "inside" was the only thing that mattered, Dominic, then we wouldn't even have sexual identities, straight men would be dating guys and you'd be going out with women.
04:05 PM on 07/24/2010
exuse my I am not rejected I am curently in a realtionship since 1997. And I we were atracted to eatch others hearts not looks so your wronge.
03:01 AM on 07/24/2010
This article makes a great deal of sense. I'm not sure why there are so many posters on here acting defensively and insulting the writer. But, I don't have the behavior surprising.

I've always been "in the middle" on the butch/fem scale, but I definitely was more effeminate as a kid. I grew up in a small town, felt isolated and, as a young adult, it was a form of expression and my attempt to stand out and feel accepted. I also thought the world revolved around me and if I didn't fem it up, I would wither and die.

So, I had it in me to begin with, but I felt an artificial nature to flesh it out. Definitely nature and nurture.
10:38 AM on 07/24/2010
Your individuality was condemned by the adults surrounding you. I disagree with you on the acceptance issue, I know that I'm a minority of one one this, but I'll never agree with this undertone, of religious/secular might that hangs around this nation. I refuse to 'fit into' this ignorant history of 2000 years that has degraded peoples the world over. Sure there are nothing but smiles and mockery in the media to anyone with a singular stance. But underneath is the Real Truth of ugliness, I'll never give in... I'd welcome any fate at all rather than join.

The Sanctity of the Self.
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12:44 AM on 07/24/2010
Um, different stroke for different folks? We see tremendous variation among heteros so why wouldn't the same be true of gays?
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01:13 PM on 07/26/2010
I think that's kind of his point... creeping lack of variety.
10:07 PM on 07/23/2010
Straight people don't expect themselves to look like the person they are trying to attract. Why would gay people?

Most gay men seem to fall between the two extremes themselves, and are attracted to neither they effeminate nor the hypermasculine.
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bayhuntr
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08:35 PM on 07/23/2010
Sexuality in not simple. I think we all have a bank of dip switches with endless combination's of different states of sexuality. I had a st8 brother in law who felt just yummy in my sisters clothes (something that is way more common then you would think.) What if he had the "attracted to masculinity" rather then "attracted to femininity" turned on, in addition to the "yummy in feminine clothes"? Now you have a perfectly normal drag queen.
There's a gene that stops you from sensing yourself as a different presence in the room, when defective people feel like they are always being watched when alone. We aren't even close to figuring it all out.
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08:10 PM on 07/23/2010
The Gays HATE his analyses here: http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/07/homoquotable-mike-alvear.html

Ever heard of the phrase: "I'm gay because I like MEN not women?" or "No Fats, No Fems"? Mike merely attempts to dissect the phenomenon. Sorry but he has a point and I for one observed the same scenes in Gay America. Makes for the gay man's obsession with "straight" men to the point of destruction. Same reason why a previously closeted star who comes out becomes unimportant to gay men because the fantasy of a heterosexual star is diminished. I think it the most reason why some actors stay in the closet too. To keep them guessing and interested. That is after all the selling point of a star. For any effete guy to deny this attraction to their more muscular counterpart is a meaningless lie. Unpleasant truth to some but nevertheless there it is.
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bayhuntr
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01:34 AM on 07/24/2010
Gays obsession with straight men? Not sure who you hang around with but I don't buy that, at least no more then straights mens obsession with lesbians. Typical gay men are attracted to masculine, most gay and straight men are masculine. There are like 10 times more straight men then gay men so there's more to catch our eye, that's not an obsession. Most gay men got over the "I wish they were gay" thing in high school; waste of time.
09:58 AM on 07/24/2010
The phrase "I'm gay because I like men not women" means that the speaker prefers masculine gay men, not heterosexuals. In any case, it's rare, in part because it's regarded as narrow-minded. And I haven't seen "no fats, no fems" for years.

Your post is a series of bigoted lies. The vast majority of gay men - virtually all of them, except for the very young - are looking for other gay men. That's the main reason for "gaydar," to spot a potential mate. And even young gay guys aren't really looking for straight people, they just misidentify people's sexual orientation. Later, they'll hone their gaydar and use it more effectively.

I'm also not aware of any evidence, even anecdotal, that gay men prefer heterosexual stars and lose interest when a star comes out. The celebrities who get (positive) attention from gay media are those who are either gay or vocally pro-gay. The exception is people like Pete Wenz who, though straight, are highly androgenous.

Your claim that all "effete" men are attracted to muscular men, and that they're lying if they say otherwise, is downright laughable - and it's at this point where your purpose for posting becomes clearest. You're not even trying to post accurately. I think what you're trying to do is be inflammatory.