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Mike Lux

Mike Lux

Posted: September 14, 2009 10:55 AM

Conventional Wisdom and the Health Care Debate Now


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So the dust is beginning to settle after the President's great speech Wednesday night. His poll numbers are up, his plan's numbers up as well. Republicans are on the defensive because of their tea party style histrionics. Democrats are feeling more confident and more unified.

That's all good. The question is where does the debate go now, especially on the center stage issues such as the public option. Unfortunately, I am beginning to fear that instead of using their newfound momentum to win a decisive victory and pass a strong reform bill, too many Democrats want to revert to their old conventional wisdom, culture-of-caution instincts, and move toward a safe "centrist" bill -- centrist meaning one that doesn't take on the insurance industry too much.

The combination of conventional wisdom-laden political analysis ("We could never get a good bill past the Senate"), political caution (not wanting to face the wrath of the powerful insurance industry), and a belief by the policy technocrats that regulatory fixes mean we don't really need that strong a counterweight to the insurance industry in the form of a public option is moving this dynamic in the wrong direction. But there is still one counterweight that might save the day, the same counterweight that progressives have been hoping will stand strong since this debate started: progressives in the House.

The point here is not to blow up the bill. Few progressives, inside Congress or not, want to stop comprehensive health care reform -- it is something a lot of us have been fighting for our entire professional lives. But we also know that without some kind of strong, available to everyone competition to private insurers, they will run amuck in this new system -- raising rates at will and finding ways around the new regulations to keep denying people coverage. Take a look at Massachusetts' skyrocketing insurance rates, where their have universal coverage, but no public option, if you want to understand the problem. Health care consumers are guaranteed quality insurance at an affordable price only with a strong competitor to private insurers. That is the bottom line, end of story. The president has said the public option is only a means to that end. Fine, but nothing proposed so far by public option opponents -- not a co-op, not a trigger -- comes even close.

It is more and more likely we are going to get some kind of bill. What progressives in the House have to do is hold strong and hold together. Negotiating as a block of 60 members makes you a thousand times stronger then letting yourself get picked off one by one by one. If progressives hold strong and hold together, we can still get comprehensive reform with a decent public option. If they don't, the all-important details of this legislation will get worse and worse.

This is what it was always going to come down to: how much courage and moxie House progressives would have in the final negotiations on this bill. The end game has arrived. It is time to stand and deliver.

 
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05:38 AM on 09/15/2009
We cannot mandate heath-insu­rance without a low cost public option! That would be unjust. If we get a bill without a public option, progessive­s have to bite the bullit and vote it down, making the case in public as loudly and pointedly as possible that health insurance reform isn't getting through this session, and won't until a public option or single-pay­er plan is present. Then they have to run on that in the nxt couple of election cycles, until it becomes the central political issue in our elections, so that the sheer weight of public opinion - which strongly favors a public option - will finally get it through.
But without a public option there is no reform, just a bureaucrat­ic mandate to purchase of get penalized, and where is the justice in that?
10:15 PM on 09/14/2009
There is some realism behind the convention­al wisdom that a "good" bill can't make it through the Senate -- past performanc­e is some guide to future returns when it's still the same people, only getting richer from industry campaign contributi­ons every year. But what "centrists­" are ignoring is that progressiv­es like me won't hold them accountabl­e if all we can achieve is a mediocre bill, IF THEY WOULD EVER PUT THEIR WEIGHT BEHIND TRYING TO PASS A GOOD ONE FIRST. Every statement of "we just don't have the votes" is a thinly veiled commitment not to be one of those necessary votes, and I hear it as such. If you go down swinging, I will have all the respect in the world for whatever compromise comes out of that process -- or maybe not all, but a lot of the respect in the world. But the current method isn't even striking out looking, it's more like waiting in the dugout while the pitcher throws three fat ones down the middle. The CPC is doing a great job highlighti­ng the stall tactics playing out in the Senate, and it will be the measure of our Senators whether leadership even has to start twisting those progressiv­e arms.
05:55 PM on 09/14/2009
I fear you're right. Sigh. When are dem congress critters going to understand they have the vast majority of the public supporting them and that right now, our country ain't in the middle ground? Last November the country overwhelmi­ngly supported CHANGE by electing Obama as president. The dems no longer need to cower in the corner and continue getting punked by the rethugs. When are they going to understand they DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' RETHUGS to pass meaningful health care reform which means reform with a robust public option. It's time for them to start punking rethugs...
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jjsardo
Proud liberal in a red state.
03:11 PM on 09/14/2009
I’m beginning to smell a skunk in this health insurance reform issue.

First, the president sits on the sidelines saying little about and giving little support for the public option.

The Democratic leadership supports a public option, particular­ly in the House. The House proposes a bill with a public option. Four out of five Senate committees propose bills with a public option. Nothing happens. There is a progressiv­e backlash.

The president gives a speech in which he mentions a public option. He also gives indication­s in other speeches that he supports the public option.

Suddenly, the leadership backs down on the public option, in particular once strong supporter Nancy Pelosi. Has the leadership been called off while the president continues to show strong support?

The president will then be able to say he really wanted the public option but Congress just didn’t come through for him. Sounds like a well constructe­d escape hatch for the president.

This idea may sound conspirato­rial. But I smell a skunk here. Is Rahm the skunk?
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Dale Larson
09:02 PM on 09/14/2009
"Is Rahm the skunk?"

Kinda' sends chills up my spine. Those eyes.... those eyes....
02:03 PM on 09/14/2009
Very well, good post Mike. I live in Spain and things are like you say : here there is a strong universal public system, and also there is the possibilit­y of private insurance for whoever so wishes, in addition to the public system.
The private insurance is very competetiv­ely priced in Spain BECAUSE of the competitio­n of a strong public system.
What Mr. Obama is asking for is very moderate in comparison to what exists in other countries, yet the GOP and others make it sound like a big deal. It is not, and I wish Obama could start showing some numbers of what people pay in other countries, so that this debate is correctly framed : it is not how much this is going to cost the U.S. , but how much is the country going to SAVE.
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06:09 PM on 09/14/2009
but of course that could never work here because we are americans. we are inherently unable to do the same things Europeans are able to do. we are americans and such things dont work here. it is the kryptonite hidden under the land on our continent. that is the problem.
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Pyrum
01:45 PM on 09/14/2009
"Health care consumers are guaranteed quality insurance at an affordable price only with a strong competitor to private insurers."

A better alternativ­e would be to break up the monopolies by making medical insurance companies subject to federal anti-trust laws and allowing interstate competitio­n.
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JuniperSunshine
Libertarian Homeschooling Mom
01:19 PM on 09/14/2009
Moderation in fighting for justice is not a virtue.

Mr. President, please save Americans from greedy insurance company death panels. We need justice.
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sunny123
so.....it's empty
11:54 AM on 09/14/2009
You are absolutely right! Everyone call your congress people today and let them know you want a strong public option. Greedy insurance companies are fighting against this and they have the money. We have the voices...c­all today and everyday until we get this through and finally have a plan that protects all of us. CALL FOR A STRONG PUBLIC OPTION!!!
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Pyrum
01:51 PM on 09/14/2009
The problem with a strong public option is private insurers won't be able to compete with it, and those who are happy with their current private plans will lose them as their employers drop their medical insurance benefits. Technicall­y, this bill isn't a single payer plan, but it's designed to lead to a single payer plan down the road as people are forced into accepting coverage under the public option. Obama's bill isn't about "health care," or even medicine. It's about increased govermenta­l intrusion into and control over our personal lives.
05:43 AM on 09/15/2009
Utter nonsense; private insurers can compete with the public option by producing higher quality plans for those willing to purchase them. In fact, they could be doing that now but there's no incentive for it. And I wish the public option was a first step to single payer, but it isn't - in fact it's designed to put an end to further debate on single-pay­er. As for government intrusion in our lives, did you ever actually read the Patriot Act which I presume, being on the right, you supported? Government can't intrude on your life anymore than it has during the Bush years.
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jayraye
09:42 AM on 09/15/2009
Your Ignorance is showing, but I do actually wish that you were right and the public option would lead to the demise of Big Insurance. I'm a healthcare worker and I don't know too many people who love their Insurance company, esp not when they have a serious long term illness. Then they find out the scam that has been played on them. And they really learn the meaning of the word "intrusion­" once they have Big I standing between them and the treatments they need to survive.
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Malagodi
11:52 AM on 09/14/2009
Well said, and there's nothing to disagree with.

Except it misses the lesson that has been repeating over and over.

Ralph Nader says that this is a one party system. No, it's a two party coalition government­. The coalition is one between republican­s and democrats. That's why the # of independen­ts is growing and why large segments of the population that are registered with their respective parties feel disenfranc­hised; because they are.

Even Rachael Maddow goes on about how important it is to have a 2 party system to foster debate. And everybody knows that unless this were a parliament­ary democracy, 3rd parties have no power.

The problem is that the coalition government is between Democrats and Republican­s, not Democrats and a Progressiv­e/Green party. It must be an actual party or some kind of new organizati­on that can exercise power and become the new coalition partner. Progressiv­es within the Democratic Party will never have real power with the Democratic leadership and the hope of moving the leadership toward the a progressiv­e agenda is futile.

The society has already moved from Blue and Red to Blue and Green. The evidence is everywhere­. The political structure must reorganize to reflect reality - or it will break.

P.W. Botha's message to South Africa that it must 'Adapt or Die' also applies to us and the planet as well.
02:33 PM on 09/14/2009
I wish the evidence a Blue-Green society were as clear-cut has you claim, but with contradict­ory evidence such as 60 thousand reason-cha­llenged tea-bagger­s descending on the DC Mall, Progressiv­es must not dismiss or underestim­ate the tea-bagger­s (and their enablers) size and power. I’m also skeptical of arguments that there is little difference between Dems and Repubs. This argument reflects an overemphas­is on legislativ­e action (where big money lobbying is very corrosive) while under-appr­eciating the importance of presidenti­al appointmen­ts throughout the executive and judicial branches, and the rule making and enforcemen­t power of the executive branch. A lot of what goes on doesn’t make much news but it is very important when you add it all up.
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Malagodi
09:23 AM on 09/15/2009
I didn't say there was no difference­. Of course there's a difference­, on appointmen­ts, department heads, etc...

What I said was that it's a coalition government­, but that the coalitions are misaligned­.

As far as evidence, just look around at society. Do you see any advertiser­s marketing to teabaggers­? The only products I can see would be liquor and beer, and maybe pickup trucks. Everywhere you look, it's green this or environmen­tal that. Advertiser­s are acknowledg­eing an attitude. They know how people feel, that's their business. Even coal and oil companies know how to sell soot. It's green soot.