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The Bain of our Existence

Posted: 05/22/2012 1:57 pm

I love this Bain debate. It is exactly the kind of debate about the nature of business and job creation we need to be having in this campaign. The Republicans, along with pro-Wall Street Democrats, are squealing like stuck pigs about the Obama campaign "attacking free enterprise" because they want to change the subject fast. They are saying to themselves: please, let's talk about anything else. Deficits would be their first choice, but anything would be preferable. Maybe we'll see them start talking about contraceptives and how people shouldn't have sex again just to change the subject. Because this debate goes straight to the heart of what kind of economy we should be trying to build in this country.

This is isn't about being for or against free enterprise. This is about how the economy should work better for everyone in it, not just the top 1 percent. The Republicans -- and Democrats like Cory Booker and Harold Ford, who both have raised millions of dollars in Wall Street money (including money from Bain) for their campaigns -- say that it is great when financial corporations like Bain make money by loading up the companies they buy with debt, taking all the tax write-offs the law allows, and then walking away with tons of money whatever happens to the original company. In fact, the companies Bain bought frequently went bankrupt, and Bain usually profited when those companies did go belly-up because of tax write-offs and sucking the companies' assets dry. But in this line of reasoning, it's all good, because capitalism should be unrestrained and some people got very rich.

What Obama and other Democrats are arguing is that our government should be on the side of the businesses that create not just wealth for a few at the top, but jobs and incomes for a lot of people. That is why Obama made the incredibly gutsy move to save the American auto industry, a policy that saved 1.45 million jobs in the short run, and kept desperately needed manufacturing jobs in this country for years to come. It is why Obama has made big investments in the budget for Small Business Administration jobs. It is why investments have been made in clean energy jobs of the future. It is why the U.S. Department of Agriculture has emphasized rural economic development and small business development in areas where jobs and incomes are desperately needed.

Democratic policies are in fact far more pro-business than policies like the Romney-Ryan budget, which independent studies estimate would cost the nation more than 4 million jobs in the next two years. That's a lot of business customers who no longer have money to spend.

The Republican attack machine (helped by Democrats like Booker and Ford who have been feeding at the Wall Street trough for their entire careers) wants to intimidate the Obama campaign by making the claim that any attack on greedy business practices like the ones Romney perfected at Bain is an attack on all business and the market. It's the same kind of argument Republicans make when they complain about class warfare politics when Democrats suggest that millionaires ought to pay a little more in taxes. It is an utterly soulless, amoral argument. But this is a fight Democrats can and will win if we make our case, because I think most people understand that there are ethical and unethical business practices. And they get that there is a difference between making money by manipulating the tax code and squeezing all the value out of businesses before throwing them away, and making money by making and selling good products that people want to buy. Biden laid this case out beautifully in a speech in Youngstown:

And the President got it right when he said, "When you are President, as opposed to the head of a private equity firm, then your job is not simply to maximize profits. Your job is to figure out how everybody in the country has a fair shot."

This debate about Bain Capital is one we need to have. What kind of business activity, and what kind of government policy, is better for America? Republicans, you better batten down the hatches, because we are going to have this debate. Whiny Wall Street Democrats, get over it, this is a fight we are taking on. This is a make or break moment for America's middle class, and we aren't going to let Republican bullies and Wall Street Democrat whiners from making Bain the bain of Romney's existence.

 

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I love this Bain debate. It is exactly the kind of debate about the nature of business and job creation we need to be having in this campaign. The Republicans, along with pro-Wall Street Democrats, ar...
I love this Bain debate. It is exactly the kind of debate about the nature of business and job creation we need to be having in this campaign. The Republicans, along with pro-Wall Street Democrats, ar...
 
 
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08:42 PM on 07/15/2012
Biden hit one out of the park with that speech. He nailed it. He needs to give that same speech in every battleground state over and over.
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ncal
ON MY SOAP BOX
05:13 AM on 05/28/2012
Obama himself gave us the answer in a recent speech: If they don't know or acknowledge it is a problem, how are they going to solve it?
10:22 AM on 05/23/2012
Booker and Ford have taken money from private equity donors and they defend the practice of private equity investing in the face of harsh criticism from the left. Obama takes money from private equity donors while demonizing them for political advantage. Which of these behaviors demonstrates superior character?
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raker
09:45 AM on 05/23/2012
Romney is the grim reaper of employment. With his apparent lack of human qualities like empathy and compassion, all he needs is the sickle and the black hoodie to complete the picture. He embodies the Republican ethos that the 99% live and breathe at the pleasure of the 1%. And I think it would be interesting to contrast Romney's vulture capitalism with the morals and ethics of, say, community organizers, who are the (pardon the expression) bane of right wing conservatives.
10:32 AM on 05/23/2012
raker, if Obama has done nothing to rein in the "morals and ethics" of venture capitalist, then he would be woven of the same black hoodie cloth; yes?

Bain has operated within the existing laws, regulations and codes.
Obama, on the other hand, has the ability to change those laws, regulations and codes.

So, you tell me, who is the real Big Bad Wolf?
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raker
11:38 AM on 05/23/2012
I know, cable news has taught us that it's a zero sum game, that every right wing misdeed is cancelled by a misdeed of equal value on the left, and that makes them —join in everyone— "all the same."

Romney buying companies, liquidating them and firing the employees is legal, but it is not an act of altruism as Romney would have us think it is, and it is absolutely not job creation, and it means absolutely nothing about Barack Obama. It does mean that when Romney boasts of being a business genius who creates jobs he's lying.
08:34 PM on 07/15/2012
Correction: CONGRESS has the ability to change those laws, regulations, and codes. Yup. The GOPer-controlled and obfuscated branch of gubmint is the branch that needs to step up and change some laws. I'm sure that if they do, Obama will sign them into law.
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laurieanichols
je pense donc, je suis
09:40 AM on 05/23/2012
Vice President Biden is correct when he says that Romney doesn't get it and the republicans don't get it as well. President Obama isn't demonizing private equity, he acknowledges that it has its place within our economy. That is his point, it has its place and function and Vice President Biden even goes further by rightfully pointing out that a Romney presidency would be all about completing the overhaul of our economy into a government sanctioned finance based economy. Romney would turn the power of government away from the guardianship of consumer rights, environmental protections and towards the codification of big business and big banking laissez faire behavior and cavalier attitude towards the consumer. Romney and the republicans have lost sight that consumerism is at the heart of capitalism, not the investor, their short sighted pursuit of vulture capitalism will only destroy itself as a snake does in the end when it feeds upon itself. For a society to succeed, there has to be balance, Teddy Roosevelt understood the dangers of runaway venture capitalism. He stood for the consumers and the country as a whole did better for it. That is what we still need and Obama/Biden understand this.
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ncal
ON MY SOAP BOX
05:17 AM on 05/28/2012
Henry Ford understood that for his business to succeed, his employees had to be able to afford his product.
09:06 AM on 05/23/2012
The problem with attacking Bain, is all of you act as if they are the only Venture Capital business out there. If you have a problem with Venture Capital rules, regulations and tax breaks, then move to change them. Funny how Obama wants to attack the efforts of Bain, but has done NOTHING to change the current environment in which they operate. Can we all hold hands and say "TWO-FACED"?

Can you say Staples?

On a 'net' basis, has Bain lost or created more jobs?
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Bellalina
Let the good times roll..no really we need some
10:24 AM on 05/23/2012
You make a fair point...you really do. Venture capitalism has been operating unchecked the whole time. And if we want to pick on Bain Capitol then we need to go after the many other companies out there just like this one. We all hated the hostile takeovers of the small businesses and independent companies many of which the employees were part owners. But to claim venture capitalism creates jobs or improves businesses is nuts. They had been considered the pest of the business world this whole time. It has never been an industry well favored or well reputed.
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Dev Austin
Haters are my motivators
01:51 PM on 05/23/2012
I think the point of the article is about the mind set and experience of one that operates a business such as Bain rather than regulations. But I must admit that tighter tax laws and bankruptcy laws may pull back the practice of intentionally destroying a business to make money. The practice not only reduces jobs but smaller companies put out of business means less competition for the larger companies which will result in higher prices.
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ncal
ON MY SOAP BOX
05:23 AM on 05/28/2012
One of Mitt's Bain experiences involved buying two businesses of the same type -- one union and one non-union -- in the same city. Guess which one went out of business.
the pariah
Author of "The Lean Pocket Diet"
09:05 AM on 05/23/2012
"squealing like stuck pigs", really that is the best you can do? Where is PETA when you need them? As far as the pro business environment of the Obama-Biden administration, is Solyndra a good example of that? I am not a Romney fan but I also don't want govenment "lifers" and college professors deciding on which companies should be given venture capital money from taxpayers. Also, if you make claims about job creation and numbers, please cite the sources of the "independent studies".
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John Fensel
Religious faith is a vice, not a virtue
10:49 PM on 05/22/2012
Excellent article.
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Earl King
I intend to live forever, or die trying
10:08 PM on 05/22/2012
This idiot is arguing for govt. funding of business. How'd that work out for Solyndra? Money moves, investors can go anywhere now. Having Obama pick what businesses to invest in....will end up as a waste of money. I imagine My Space investors and the ultimate buyer feel like they got screwed pretty good. Isn't it better to have private money be lost than public? Markets and consumers make choices, every day...I can think of no worse person to decide what businesses to invest in that a politician. They A) are not cold and calculating enough B) they can't make decisions. Obviously! C) They never make it in business...they are not smart enough.
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Bellalina
Let the good times roll..no really we need some
10:34 AM on 05/23/2012
I find it interesting you think good business is being cold and calculating and that you feel the current financial business leaders are smart??? I also find it disturbing that corporations are making great money yet won't create jobs disturbing and unwise. Not to mention self destructing. The financial world as a whole is remarkably unstable, and riddled with truly unwise business decisions along with unreasonably bad miscalculations and risks. These guys may be winning the taking over the whole world agenda, but they are truly bad business men who only got their money through illegal means. This doesn't make them smart, and this is their Achellis' Heel. Many smarter people are moving along quite well and will unseat them.
08:59 PM on 05/22/2012
This conversation is needed. Lots of Republicans lost money because of the fraud on Wall Street. Houses, pensions, savings and on and on.

Basic regulation to prevent criminality is a foundation of capitalism.

Everybody understands that buying legislation to legalize criminality, to create loopholes, and to corrupt markets is cheating. It is a long and ugly tradition but is currently at an unfortunate highpoint.

Nobody is more dismayed at the number fudging and tax evasion that harmed the country than my retirement age Republican friend who is a CPA and investor. Furious.
06:44 AM on 05/23/2012
Your retirement age friend should know better than to be gambling his retirement money in the stock market.
He didn't really learn much as a CPA.
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Bellalina
Let the good times roll..no really we need some
10:35 AM on 05/23/2012
Wait only GOP people lost money??? I don't think so
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golfvue3
It's all ball bearings these days.
08:24 PM on 05/22/2012
Obama isn't arguing what you say. His ads are attacking Romney - and are completely fraudulent. He puts quotes in from people who say Romney fired them - and Romney wasn't even working for Bain when that happened. Typical left-wing distractionary tactics - anything to keep the message away from Obama and his terrible record on the economy.
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John Fensel
Religious faith is a vice, not a virtue
10:51 PM on 05/22/2012
You defend Romney with an attack on Obama, and then accuse the left of using distractions.

Wow.

The truth:

Romney's pattern at Bain are very clear and very easily verified. Those methods caused a lot of companies to go bankrupt (and yes, some companies went bankrupt because of Romney even after he left, as they could not recover), and a lot of employees to lose their jobs, their healthcare, their pensions, and their overall economic security. The companies that did end up successful still eliminated vast amounts of middle class jobs in favor of minimum wage and foreign jobs.

If that's the type of economy you want, then you are either heartless or illogical.
04:54 AM on 05/23/2012
I can see your logic. Almost as saying the economy is the way it is and bush had nothing to do with it. He don't work there no more. Right? I mean the actions you take have no medium/long term consequences do they. Of course not. short term revisionist memory loss is the right win favourite illness of choice.
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fearthebetenoire
Lying's like 95% of what I do. In your job? Sure.
08:17 PM on 05/22/2012
The problem with Bain and other private equity firms is that they are not really committed to saving companies or helping them grow. They are committed to profit. If saving a company is profitable, they do so, if not, they kill it and pick over the bones. If growing a company is profitable, they support it, if not, they load up debt, take the money and run.

Of course, inefficient businesses fail, but private equity has also caused the failure of successful businesses by focusing on financial maneuvering to maximize short term profits rather than optimizing operations and financing to grow the business for the long term benefit of investors, customers and workers.

This type of capitalism is not illegal, but it is not the same form of entrepreneurial effort that most people admire when they talk about business leaders, and it is not a particularly useful resume for a man who wants to lead the whole country.
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lk415
oaks grow strong in contrary winds
07:20 PM on 05/22/2012
What's amazing is that Mitt actually thought he would somehow escape having to talk about the details of his past -- as job destroyer at Bain Capital, his miserable stint as Governor (destroying all records of his tenure there), and his privileged childhood that led to a lifelong penchant for bullying behavior.

I personally can't wait for all the details to emerge, and for his true character to be irrevocably defined (cast in stone, not etch-a-sketched)... a man who truly believes himself to be superior to all; a man who is so very narcissistic that he believes he shouldn't have to explain his success, or mention those he stepped on to achieve it, but should only be admired and congratulated for it.

What I don't really understand is why -- with all the money in the world, with the ability to do whatever he wants -- he has chosen to run for president not once, but twice? Why put himself through all the scrutiny -- did he really feel that his stature would make him immune to it?

Maybe Mitt feels he needs to one-up his father, the widely respected businessman and Governor. Mitt seems to feel that he deserves this ultimate award, the presidency. Instead, Mitt Romney will go down in history as the man who had too much -- but who ultimately failed because he had too little integrity, too little personal depth, and too little empathy for others.
10:45 AM on 05/23/2012
What you have to understand, is that Romney could give a rats a-- about the country. His run for president is exactually the same as when he was at Bain. It's about the hunt, the kill, and the trophy for the wall.
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lk415
oaks grow strong in contrary winds
01:53 PM on 05/23/2012
Yes.
Flower411
It doesn't have to be like this.
06:08 PM on 05/22/2012
Romney's advisor claims that the failure rate of Bain-held corporations was 20%, with 80% success. I wonder how much the GOP would be squealing "fail" at President Obama if the unemployment rate was 20%.
the pariah
Author of "The Lean Pocket Diet"
09:00 AM on 05/23/2012
Your argument is flawed since a lot of the companies were in deep trouble to begin with.
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AlfredE69
Liberty Lovin' Tree Hugger
05:34 PM on 05/22/2012
What is this 'free enterprise' you speak about? It can't be about bailing out with tax payer money poorly run and corrupt financial firms.