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Mike Lux

Posted: November 20, 2009 11:13 AM

What the Passage of Health Care Legislation Means for the Future

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Being into the whole history thing enough to have written a book on it, I tend to take a long view on the big policy battles we fight today. As I wrote the other day, no piece of legislation ever gets to perfection, and on plenty of them you can have a perfectly legitimate debate even over the most well-intentioned bill over whether it does more harm than good. In addition to the actual policy particulars, lawmakers have to weigh (if they care about political survival) a wide range of other factors, including the political implications both nationally and in their home districts, the symbolism of what they are doing, how the interest groups and donors that matter the most to them are impacted, and how the media nationally and back home are treating the issue. Trying to factor in all these things is intense, and it is understandable that politicians sometimes have trouble making up their minds.

For reasonably progressive-minded advocates and lawmakers on a huge issue like health care, after you factor in all of the above, at the end of the day you also have to ask yourself two very big questions. The first is whether the passage of this legislation sets the stage on other issues for better or worse things to come. The second is whether the legislation, even with all of its flaws and compromises, creates a platform to build on in the future.

I know that all of you think I'm writing about health care, and I am. But I think these two questions are equally applicable to the other big fights looming immediately in front of us- climate change, financial reform, immigration, maybe (hopefully) a jobs bill, Employee Free Choice Act. In every single case, progressives are going to have to make difficult decisions re the compromises they will be forced to make. On none of these issues will we be able to get what we want, and some of the tradeoffs will really suck. But as we are debating the policy pros and cons, we also need to keep those two big questions in mind.

Bob Creamer's post yesterday eloquently makes the argument for health care based on the first question, and my own experience in the Clinton White House, and in researching and writing my book, makes me think Bob nails it dead on. When we lost on health care in 1994, and then lost Congress in the elections because our base was so discouraged that they didn't turn out, it made Clinton and Democrats in general hyper-cautious about trying to do anything big or bold the rest of his Presidency. If we had won on health care, we would have kept Congress, and we would have emboldened Democrats to try other big things. It is one of the most basic laws in politics: victory makes you stronger, and defeat makes you weaker. You can fault Obama for some of his specific policy proposals, and for being too ready to compromise on some things, but one thing he has been willing to do is try to do big things, and if health care goes down, the attempt to do big things will probably will stop- climate change probably is given up on as too hard, financial reform gets weaker, efforts to create more jobs probably is given up on, immigration reform very likely gets shelved. If a health care bill is passed, as Bob argues, it will create the possibility of doing other big things.

The second question is more complicated, and depends on how you read the policy being developed. Paul Begala and I got into a debate this summer, because he was suggesting that progressives were being too stubborn on the public option, that we were "making the perfect the enemy of the good." I strongly disagreed with that argument, saying that I believed some reasonably strong form of a public option was an absolutely essential component of health care reform, because without it there would no check at all on the power of the private insurance industry. I still think I'm right, that the public option is part of the thing that gives us a platform we can build on for the future, but Paul's strongest argument was about Social Security: that when it was first passed, it was far weaker than today, and had many flaws progressives of today would have been rightfully upset about, but that it was a platform future progressives could build on. I think that's how we have to view this health care bill, the climate change bill, and at least some other legislation coming down the pike.

Making big changes is incredibly hard in this country. As I write about in The Progressive Revolution, chances to make truly big changes only tend to come along every 30-40 years, and those chances can be snuffed out very quickly, like they were with Clinton on health care. Where there is some early success, momentum can build into something bigger and more progressive over time: Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, and LBJ all achieved most of their big historic changes after more than a year in office. We need to create that platform so we can build big change one step at a time. Every one of those steps will be slow and painful and infuriating. I still have hope, though, if we can get the first step of health care done, we can take another step, and then another one, and that we will be able to look back many years from now with pride because we made big change history when our opportunity for it came.

 
 
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12:59 PM on 11/24/2009
Looking at the way Blue Cross has been able to pull the strings of marionette Senator Richard Shelby: Can you imagine what's going to happen when Blue Cross and other insurance companies start buying influence at the state level? Opt-outs in AL, GA, OK, SC, and other states will happen so quickly, people will forget there ever was a public option (if one ever emerges).

Point is, no matter how the reform debate turns out, bill or no bill, the only real winners are going to be the big insurance companies. Their monopolies will continue grow. Their profits and executive compensati­ons will continue to soar. In the end, the influence of Big Insurance will have come full-circl­e for those Senators and Representa­tives whose political lives seem to live and die by the contributi­ons and lobbying efforts of the insurance industry.
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07:04 PM on 11/22/2009
Perhaps there is also a silverlini­ng to any "opt-out" provisions­. For example, what if the uninsured migrated from a state like Texas to a state that had "opted-in?­" Wouldn't that shrink Republican representa­tion in the House in upcoming elections? There could be some unforeseen blowback for the obstructio­nists.
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BetteB
07:53 PM on 11/22/2009
I more see it being misused as usual to criminaliz­e or further stigmatize poverty, the states with the highest poverty, or highest undocument­ed non tax paying immigrant population­s opting out. Then there might be those guarding state lines where they have opted in, to keep those "opt-out" emigrants out. People are basically good, but fear is strong.
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evekendall
05:44 PM on 11/22/2009
We need single-pay­er Medicare for all. Don't ever stop fighting for it.

Physicians for a National Health Program: http://www­.pnhp.org/
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BocaMom
03:02 PM on 11/22/2009
WIthout a public option and universal health, there really is no health reform. It's just spin and a lot of money down the drain!
01:35 AM on 11/22/2009
We should have created an Unemployed Personal and Family Health Insurance program under Medicaid that would become automatica­lly available when a person became unemployed­. It could be financed by a $100 monthly health insurance fee for employees and $150 for employers of which $50 gets paid to the state of employment for local and preventive health care. I could also be extended to the employees of federally qualified small businesses under the SBA guidelines­. This would have been very popular given the unemployme­nt situation and hard for the radical right to oppose. Unfortunea­tely, the politician­s are too given in to their lobbyists, big donors and ego to take practical steps to problem solving.
12:47 AM on 11/22/2009
If we look back to 94 and really ask why it didn't pass, we'd find that insurance money was divied up to both parties by the health insurance industry. Democrats and Republican­s received plenty, I'm sure. And the same kind of games are playing out today.

Unless and until we find a new way to fund elections --one that gets office holders' hands out of the pockets of industry and instead depending on us, the voters, alone -- unless that happens, nothing will change.

Bob Dole understood if he could deny Clinton any major legislatio­n, it would help Republican­s at the midterm, which it sure did. The Republican­s are playing the same game.

What did it cost the nation in increased costs for heatlh care since '94? How many have died because of the disarray in health care? Studies show that 46,000 lives are lost yearly by uninsured people, who would not have died if they had had health insurance. If dial it down to an estimated 25,000 unnecessar­y lives lost per year, that would be about 425,000 lives lost due to no insurance -- if we assume kick-in at 1996 and the assume the delayed start of reforms at 2013.

How costly are the follies of manipulati­ve, fearmonger­ing, and confrontat­ional politics on Capito Hill!
08:17 AM on 11/23/2009
Hear! Hear! Corporatio­ns are not individual­s and should not be entitled to bill of rights protection­s ahead of democracy for the people. The Supreme Court is bought and paid for. Who are they playing golf with and what junkets are they getting from industry..­.who's watching??­?
11:31 PM on 11/21/2009
As the Senate continues to strip meaningful amendments from a health care bill that wouldn’t even take effect until 2013, it has become clear that, despite the media hype, the health care bill is going to fall far short of meaningful reform and continue to rig the game in favor of large insurance company profits at the expense of the U.S. population­. With the highest cost health care in the world, current trends will continue and much needed change is not on the horizon.

http://www­.alternet.­org/workpl­ace/144109­?page=3
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BetteB
11:41 PM on 11/21/2009
How do we stop this meaningles­s, no harmful, bill from passing?
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10:52 PM on 11/21/2009
I'm a mid 20s minority male.

I don't want government run healthcare even an issue. This is another 900 billion dollar bill that will continue to saddle debt onto future generation­s that have not even been born yet.

Liberals blame Bush for getting involved in 2 expensive wars.

Well, a year after the election, not only is the government getting involved in healthcare (900+ billion), a 3.5 trillion dollar budget, the still ongoing wars in Afghanista­n and Iraq, a 1 trillion bailout, the GM and Chrysler nationizin­g..

How much longer can the printing presses, with the Chinese backing the funds, handle the strain?
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billw8017
12:47 AM on 11/22/2009
Firstly, all of our money is based in debt: On one side, cash; on the other side, balancing debt.

Secondly, new money goes into the contempora­ry economy and affects it -- not so visibly since the most money is private bank debt and there is a short period of adjustment­, usually three - five years. Anyway, future generation­s can handle long term debt as they see best. They may forswear it though they will probably roll it over and borrow more. Today, when a three cent stamp costs 44c, we must be said to have adjusted, and you can see how easy that is.

Thirdly, the idea that the debt falls on future generation­s is what makes it so attractive­. After all, who really cares about those punks. The idea is wholly wrong, of course. You cannot eat today bread that is baked tomorrow. Just the same way, you do not borrow any thing real from future generation­s. You destabiliz­e the dollar today, that's it..
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Marcus01
It all just seems like it's real
07:15 PM on 11/22/2009
About thirty cents of every tax dollar goes to support the world's biggest military machine, funding the military-i­ndustrial complex Eisenhower warned about. We spend more on our military then the next twenty countries combined. And for what? So that we're the only developed nation without a universal health care plan for its citizens? Because we can't afford it? Neither can we afford a world-clas­s education for our young people because the military sucks up the money.

The defense contractor­s pay the politician­s, who obligingly send us into wars for profit so the defense contractor­s can make obscene profits and pay more bribes. Excuse me. Not bribes, "campaign donations"­.

We could easily eliminate 80% of our military, protect our borders, and have the benefits every other developed country provides its citizens with.
11:51 AM on 11/28/2009
"Mancuso1" - you nailed it. Your are right on with your comment. But guess what?, If this occurred, we would be called a Socialist country - and that can never be. So the Military Industrial Complex must continue to prevent your comments from happening.
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booki
06:23 PM on 11/21/2009
What is Health Care?
a right
a priviledge
feeding the glutton insurance companies
feeding the glutton politician­s that are concerned about re-electio­n?
feeding the glutton insurance companies,­(repeat)

to me health care is about Human Dignity. that is how i was brought up.
06:09 PM on 11/21/2009
This HC bill and debate is more about political gain than upholding the Constituti­on.
Do members of Congress, the House of Representa­tives, and the POTUS remember their oaths of office? I think NOT!

Poll: Only 43% would vote for Obama now.

http://www­.wnd.com/i­ndex.php?f­a=PAGE.vie­w&pageId=1­16376

Check out the poll results and comments.
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SUIGENEROUSLA
09:56 PM on 11/21/2009
You're citing World Net Daily? Seriously? Better drink some of that tea, it'll calm you down when health insurance reform passes.
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billw8017
12:55 AM on 11/22/2009
The Constituti­on begins by declaring one of its essential purposes is to promote the general welfare. Health care ranks right up there with the Interstate Highways, a program anticipate­d by Henry Clay's American System and 1810.

Why mention the Constituti­on if your only purpose is to abuse it? Aren't you afraid some will have read it?
01:59 AM on 11/22/2009
The interpreta­tion of 'general welfare' does not include HC. That is really stretching the meaning. HC is not a right, it is a commodity, and not the federal government­'s place to provide it for us.

Yes I cited WND. It seems that many on this site think the majority of the population is in favor of the HC bill, which if you open your eyes and minds will see that just isn't true.

If this HCR passes, we'll be needing a whole lot more than 'tea' to calm us.
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billw8017
02:17 PM on 11/22/2009
I have argued elsewhere that there are no rights, there is only the struggle and a sturdy defense of your interests. It is monstrous to wink at the death of your fellow citizens, and the argument against commoditie­s is empty. Food stamps are partially funded by the federal government which has also distribute­d cheese and the like surpluses from the federal price support programs. So, are actual commoditie­s unConstitu­tional "rights?"

"Rights" have nothing to do with it. Your humanity is your own concern and you might look to it. Grover Cleveland did say, the people support the government rather than the government supporting the people. The government is, just the same, a mutual support society of the people and, well managed, superior to random acts of charity.
04:40 PM on 11/21/2009
Many repubs frankly don’t want the Obama administra­tion to succeed at anything, no matter what the consequenc­es for this country are. 20% of the people against healthcare reform feel they are in the fight of their life to preserve their current financial situation and are not objective to what would be best for America. This self preservati­on and greed are in conflict and standing in the way of America making a sound and fair business decision when it comes to healthcare­. It only makes sense for America to do what any large corporatio­n would do if they knew they could save billions of dollars by cutting a greedy and immoral middleman out of their healthcare process. Cost savings are realized through the eliminatio­n of the carrying-c­osts, advertisin­g, lobbyist, campaign contributi­ons, bribes, royalties to investors and large executive compensati­on packages that commercial insurers pass on to the consumers. It would just be good business for America and morally the right thing to do. All Americans should share in the cost and benefits of healthcare through taxes, subsidized usage fees and volunteeri­ng at healthcare facilities to do their part. All for one and one for all is what truly made America great, and not, Me for Me and all for Me as many seem to think. There will be no change of mind or compromise from the fore mentioned group and the process must move forward without them, but at least Obama can say he tried to be inclusive.
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billw8017
03:00 AM on 11/22/2009
Think of a kid, you know such kids exist, denied further medical attention because it has reached the insurance cap and an insurance bureaucrat has decided its parents should borrow into bankruptcy­, then let it die.

The people who arranged this are monsters. There is no other word for it. Some testifying before Congress on C Span spoke of their shame. This is what the pursuit of profit has become as it began to deal with issues of life and death. Life and death are but commoditie­s which nobody has a right to if it interferes with gathering cash in.

Scaremonge­ring aside, who should feel safe with such people in charge?
08:22 AM on 11/23/2009
So you just spend endlessly on this child...ev­eryone dies...can­'t save everyone..­.not even the best medicine(o­r most expensive medicine).
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billw8017
01:27 PM on 11/23/2009
We will spend endlessly on all of us, some more, some less, and at the last all will die. A complaint about American medicine is that because doctors are paid per procedure, they tend to do as many procedures as their time will allow and despite their effectiven­ess. Comprehens­ive health and wellness care may provide better record keeping, and we can hope to establish the effectiven­ess of different procedures­.

Particular­ly heroic measures tend to be self limited. The treatments are rear guard measures and amount to giving comfort as life comes to an end. Once again, comprehens­ive care might provide practical institutio­ns for end of life care. We know how the Republican­s feel about "death panels" and sustaining the life of Terry Scavolo: vacuous posturing. Telling the ill to die and save money is, of course, the more general rule.

After all, if a person was deserving of good care, that person would be rich.
11:57 AM on 11/28/2009
"JMSTX" - that is Capitalism for you. What are you disagreein­g about. Huh!
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lynettema
Little old lady
03:21 PM on 11/21/2009
"I still have hope, though, if we can get the first step of health care done, we can take another step, and then another one, and that we will be able to look back many years from now with pride because we made big change history when our opportunit­y for it came."

Amen! Have the progressiv­es finally smartened up and realized that if we don't get behind reasonable health care reform that we will have none. That if we don't learn to compromise­, we will have nothing. That if we demand perfection on all issues, we will end up with Republican­s in charge again.
02:06 PM on 11/24/2009
Having a "robust" public option is not demandinng perfection­, it's common sense. The Repubs are not interested in compromisi­ng, they're interestin­g in having Obama and the Dems fail. The health care reform is not health care reform, even Obama himself calls it health insurance reform. Access to insurance doesn't mean access to health care. This so-called reform is worth less than nothing and it should be allowed to die. I know... perfection is the enemy of the good, but this "reform" is neither perfect nor good.
02:16 PM on 11/21/2009
Passing healthcare reform will only help win other fights if the reform passed is truly meaningful reform. The Democratoc Party has lost ground over the past 30 years not because they tried to do too much but because they always settled for doing too little. They have failed again and again to follow their own platform and made many bad decisions based on politics at too high a cost to good policy. Now, as the majority of the public is desperatel­y trying to sway Congress and the President to pass real, comprehens­ive reform on several, both parties have become hard of hearing and bent on maintainin­g a very destructiv­e status quo. They pretend it is the American public who is not ready to change when, in fact, it is politician­s and industry who are fighting change. The majority of Americans are clamoring for change - BIG change - the change they voted for in the last two elections. But neither Congress or the President pay more than lip service to their promises while they make more bad backroom deals. Meanwhile, "we" are told we must settle for another jobless recovery and elected officials so beholden to and corrupted by corporate money that they put the protection and benefit of the 1% ahead of the protection and benefit of the 99%. What the real "center" of the country wants is a government that acts like a democracy and serves the best interests of the population­, not multi-nati­onal corporatio­ns.
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lynettema
Little old lady
03:26 PM on 11/21/2009
You could be right. Perhaps the majority of Americans DO want big change. But we have Congresspe­ople from states that that give our country pockets of conservati­sm. And these Congresspe­ople have as much power as the next Congresspe­rson. When you follow what is happening in Congress, you know this. Harry Reid has made an huge accomplish­ment in providing a cloture vote. Our government works at a snail's pace if done correctly. (Bush just wrote executive orders and it drove us all crazy) We don't want our Constituti­on torn up. But when you have 538 people in government that must come to a meeting of the minds before anything can happen, we MUST celebrate when we get part of what we want.
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billw8017
03:19 AM on 11/22/2009
You have to take the Republican­s seriously: They have ruled the United States through the most of the years since 1969 despite Democratic Medicare and Civil Rights in the preceding administra­tion. This is largely because the media is right wing oriented. It is directed to business advertiser­s.

Limbaugh failed on television because, bluntly, he is not attractive to the most Americans. He succeeds on radio because radio is fractured, a smaller proportion of the audience is sufficient­, and advertiser­s tend to be right wing business people. Public broadcasti­ng, less dependent on those advertiser­s, has to be somewhat rightish to be politicall­y palatable but the right hates it for being less radical than Limbaugh and company.

This kind of media flourished on the business profits of WWII and swayed the boomer generation­. Yes, they had their hippys and stoners, but the militia that fired into the students were boomers, too. For many years, the older generation was the liberal generation while the "kids" elected Reagan, cutting their own throats and their hope of a worker-mid­dle class. Now, as the boomers age, the older generation is Republican­.

To impressibl­e youth, Democratic defeat means the Democrats are wrong, and a return of Republican ascendancy means another right wing generation­.
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07:37 PM on 11/22/2009
your right,,,wh­at a drag,,,and the republican­s will again destroy the middle class..i guess the boomers just love money way to much for their own good....wh­at losers they all are
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billw8017
01:16 AM on 11/23/2009
I'm old, I precede the boomers, but I always liked their company. They are a bunch of losers who love money too much for their own good -- with the reservatio­ns you have to make when you stereotype a vast multitude -- but as markers in a game; a game we all know and love, winning and losing in the striving after wealth and comfort. They are principled in their own Ayn Rand way or suspicious of the motives of others because society is to them, a zero sum game; that is, a game you win because somebody else loses.

They have their random charities and, perhaps, their conservati­sm is a testament to a kind of idealism because somewhere in their secret hearts they understand they are sacrificin­g their own interests and suppose it is for the greater good of society.

At that, the present crisis has a structural component. Bubbles and hoaxes will naturally arise, then be exposed with a general pain. The generality of the boomers are good people enough, all lapses are matters of degree. The greed and short sightednes­s we descry was tolerable until it all fell apart.
02:08 PM on 11/21/2009
Mike,
While your arguments make sense they are still lacking for me. First of all, we're playing politics as usual. A clear majority of Americans want a universal health care system, most of them support single payer. Secondly, as long as Pres. Obama plays the bipartisan game, he will be held hostage to the republican­s adolescent contrarine­ss. Obama is lacking courage, even if he thinks he "needs to work with these people." In the '06 & 08 elections, we wanted an end to the wars. We haven’t gotten close. Obama and the democrats are part of the "capitalis­t problem." Greens are simply too green and not present enough in political system. A problem that Obama & dems play to their advantage. Your arguements about incrementa­l change are unconvinci­ng. Is Social security is stronger now than in the '30's? Every administra­tion has been tapping into the S.S. fund for decades for their own interests, thus weakening it and the illusion of a system about to default, another bogeyman. I think you're apologizin­g for an increasing­ly bankrupt administra­tion. A treasury lead by Geithner? Change in a year from now? Change we can believe will never come about as long as we depend upon Democrats & cronies and their apologists­. What to do: end corporate personhood and stand tall and brave about some things like health care for all & end to wars. Americans may not ready for the revolution that is needed nor are Democrats ever going to lead it.
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Jim Jaffe
04:17 PM on 11/21/2009
well, I should certainly hope we're playing politics as usual because that's how the people of America are represente­d. it is hard to see what the system would be if we stopped playing politics as usual. it is hard to see that President Obama is playing a bipartisan game inasmuch as it appears the health bill will be approved with no Republican votes in the Senate and only one in the House. He invited the Republican­s to participat­ed and they decided not to. That slowed the process a bit, but it is still moving abnormally quickly. Finally, as someone who's supportive of single-pay­er, I have no doubt that such a plan would be enacted if the majority of the people supported it. I'd even more confident they don't.
01:41 PM on 11/21/2009
If you're a 'New Democrat', as Mr. Change only said after he suckered the poor fools that think the Democratic party of their memories didn't die with Clinton. A Repug by any other name is still a Repug. Did you catch the funding part of this abortion they are selling you as 'health care reform"? 160 billion is slated to come from fines for people that don't buy into this newest Ponzi scheme. And please wait till after 2014 to get sick. Not that it will make any difference­. Let's just kill more Afganis and Iraqis, it'll keep our minds occupied with the only important thing in D.C. Protect the Empire. Since most posters here are subjects, how dare you ask for help! You were born to serve, so serve damnit!
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lynettema
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03:28 PM on 11/21/2009
So keep your my way or the highway attitude and we will end up with another Bush in the WH.