McCain Defeats Huckabee in Republican Primary, "Loses" to Clinton in Democratic Primary

Posted February 20, 2008 | 11:35 AM (EST)



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With 97% of the vote counted in Wisconsin, John McCain defeated Mike Huckabee 219,652 to 147,742.

Meanwhile Barack Obama defeated Hillary Clinton 635,693 to 444,604.

In other words, in winning the Republican primary in Wisconsin, John McCain received less than half of the votes that Hillary Clinton won in losing to Barack Obama. If he were running in the Democratic primary, McCain would have come in a distant third.

This in a swing state that John Kerry carried over George W. Bush in 2004 by only 11,384 votes.

Lest we think this is only because the Republican nomination is already wrapped up, let's go back a week to Virginia, where Mike Huckabee gave John McCain a scare. Virginia has been a Red state that the Democrats haven't won since Lyndon Johnson's landslide over Barry Goldwater in 1964.

Obama defeated Clinton 631,141 to 347,252.

McCain defeated Hucakbee 244,135 to 198,247.

Again, if he were running in the Democratic primary, McCain would have come in a distant third to Hillary Clinton.

This pattern of significantly more people voting in the Democratic primaries and caucuses than in the Republican ones has been repeated throughout this campaign season.

Remember that in 2004, John Kerry received more votes than any presidential candidate in history, except George W. Bush in 2004. Bush won only because of the massive Republican turnout generated by Karl Rove

A lot can happen between now and November; but these primary/caucus turnout numbers portend very well for Democrats in the fall, both for taking the presidency and increasing their margins in the House and Senate.

Yes, I know they tell us that false hope is dangerous. And yes, I know that change is hard. There's a lot of tough work left to do to put a Democrat in the White House in the fall, and even tougher work to do after that to bring fundamental change to the country in the face of fierce resistance from the entrenched interests of the status quo and the power of multinational corporations It may even be necessary for progressive grassroots activists to push a president Obama farther than he's initially inclined to go. And yet...and yet...today I can't help but remember a warm summer day in Washington D. C. in August, 1963 when Martin Luther King proclaimed his and our dream to the nation... and I can help but picture a cold winter day in Washington D.C. day in January, 2009 as Barack Obama -- son of a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas--delivers one of the great inaugural addresses in American history to a world in need of the audacity of hope.


 
 

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- Pdubya See Profile I'm a Fan of Pdubya permalink

its about three things:

brokered convention

virtual delegates

real delegates

p.s. lincoln went to convention with only 20 delegates

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 02/21/2008
- AnninCA See Profile I'm a Fan of AnninCA permalink

The people who turned out and voted Democrat aren't real Democrats.

McCain is up against a third party.

But the Democrats were already defeated....by Obama.

So let's get it straight.

This isn't a partisan election now.

It's Republican versus a third party with the name recognition factor of Democrat but not really Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 02/20/2008
- Researchguy66 See Profile I'm a Fan of Researchguy66 permalink

Sure, keep thinking that... Then again, three or four months ago, Hillary Clinton was on her way to the White House...surely nothing can go wrong now...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 02/20/2008
- Doofus See Profile I'm a Fan of Doofus permalink

'With 97% of the vote counted in Wisconsin, John McCain defeated Mike Huckabee 219,652 to 147,742.

Meanwhile Barack Obama defeated Hillary Clinton 635,693 to 444,604.

In other words, in winning the Republican primary in Wisconsin, John McCain received less than half of the votes that Hillary Clinton won in losing to Barack Obama. If he were running in the Democratic primary, McCain would have come in a distant third.'

Wisconsin's primary is *totally* open, so there were (supposedly) large numbers of Repos voting for a Demo candidate, 'the weakest opponent to John McCain'. So, the vote for McCain was relatively low, because many Repos were voting for Clinton. Not that it made much difference. Hopefully they will understand that this means they are now *required* to vote for the Demo in November.

Found, out on the 'Net...

'Due to Hillary's sky-high unfavorable rating, I think Obama is more of a threat to the Republicans in November.

I may actually be voting for Hillary on February 19.

Wow. That was a disturbing sentence to type.

Posted by Mary at 2/07/2008 01:05:00 AM'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 02/20/2008
- grendl See Profile I'm a Fan of grendl permalink



One of the best developments, oddly, to come out of this bitterly contested war between Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton, I think, is that people in this country feel they have to take one side or the other. McCain doesn't even seem to be an option to many of them.
It's a bizarre world we inhabit. All this attention to the Democratic race puts the two candidates in the political spotlight, claiming Coke and Pepsi status, to John McCains RC Cola, an antiquated drink to say the least.
It's not just a case of flash above substance, but flash has a lot to do with it. People have a bitter taste in their mouths from eight years of drinking fetid Texas water. Those numbers don't lie, Obama tripling the number of McCain supporters in Wisconsin.
At first I thought the war between Clinton and Mr. Obama would serve to discredit them both, but more than anything its kept the Democratic Party in the national spotlight, and ultimately that carries with it much more weight than substantive issues. Not that they don't bring substance to the table, just that the electorate is more swayed, as a whole by the shiny bells and whistles the media frenzy rings and blows around this heavily contested race.

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