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MJ Rosenberg

MJ Rosenberg

Posted: March 10, 2010 10:15 AM

Settlers Celebrate 1994 Slaughter of 29 Palestinians (Video)

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This is a report from Israel's largest media company, Yedioth Achronoth. Thanks to Andrew Sullivan for posting it.

As Sullivan points out, most Israelis cannot stand the settlers but, thanks to Israel's parliamentary system and right-wing politicians like Binyamin Netanyahu, who suck up to them, they are running the country today. And only the left (and it's not large) is fighting them.

 

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Nym22
04:50 PM on 03/10/2010
The settlers are indeed reprehensible. However, while Israeli courts rule that shrines to Baruch Goldstein must be demolished, the Palestinian Authority names kindergartens after Dalal Mughrabi (who killed 37 Israelis in cold blood).

Both figures are worthy of disdain, but while Israel views them as such, the Palestinians [officially] revere Mughrabi.
05:31 PM on 03/10/2010
And Israelis name streets after terrorists:

Olei Hagardom (Hebrew: "Those hanged in the gallows", עולי הגרדום) refers to members of the pre-state Jewish underground who were tried in British Mandate courts and sentenced to death by hanging, most of them in Acre prison. There were 12 Olei Hagardom. [1]

Many streets in Israel are named after Olei Hagardom or those who were executed. The Ramat Aviv neighbourhood in Tel Aviv and the Armon Hanatziv neighbourhood in Jerusalem have streets bearing the name Olei Hagardom or the names of individual fighters.[1] In Ramat Gan, there is an official square and statue honoring Dov Gruner and Olei Hagardom. An official commemoration ceremony takes place on Yom Hazikaron at the memorial in Rishon LeZion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olei_Hagardom
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Nym22
11:21 PM on 03/10/2010
You're right, alysheba. There's no excuse for that (although if the streets were named after people who engaged strictly in violence against the British military, I'd be less inclined to have a problem with it).

Surely there are nicer ways to identify roads and schools...'Sunshine Ave.' or 'Rosa Parks High School' have much better rings to them, if you ask me.
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05:36 PM on 03/10/2010
So the wrongs of others make it less reprehensible? What kind of logic is that?

Besides, the disturbed Mughrabi is not officially commemorated by the Palestinians any more than Goldstein is commemorated by the Israeli State.
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04:00 PM on 03/10/2010
"But open your eyes. Something is happening in the soul of Israel." Andrew Sullivan in the Atlantic article.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/03/the-new-israel-watch.html

There is nothing new. You see the same attitude in quotes and writings of Begin, Dayan, Ben Gurion, etc. going back 70 to 100 years. Mr Sullivan is simply seeing it for the first time. And having seen it and spoken up about it, he was labelled an antisemite by Martin Peretz.

"As I've noted in this space before, the racist anti-Arab rants by New Republic editor in chief/owner Martin Peretz have undermined not only his magazine's reputation for liberalism but also the term "pro-Israel" itself. ...This tendency has finally spilled into polite discussion now that the magazine has turned on one of its own: former editor, and now Atlantic Monthly blogger, Andrew Sullivan. "

http://live.thenation.com/doc/20100315/alterman
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Freenation
02:01 PM on 03/10/2010
well, well good for Hamas they are not the only bad guys in that part of the world...the irony is this news will not be reported in the US MSM...if same thing even 99% less would have been done by Hamas..the US MSM would oh the horror X 100....

thanks MJ once again!!!
01:59 PM on 03/10/2010
This is very wrong and serious. However, it is flagrant how there is rarely a condemnation or even mention of all the songs of praise for suicide bombers, the TV shows hailing their heroism and the state-run homages to all Palestinian terrorists.
Hamas has a whole network dedicated to it.
Before anyone accuses me, none of it makes this video less despicable that what it is but it atests to the hypocrisy of most readers of this site.
03:33 PM on 03/10/2010
yes you are right, well except for one thing.. Isn't Hamas considered a terrorist group. So settlers acting like a terrorist group is ok in your opinion as long as they are jews.oh yea, i also thought that Isreal is a democratic country.Shouldn't its citzen act like, well again, like respected citzens. Rather then just saying this is hypocrisy, which it isn't, shouldn't you wonder why citzens of an established country are acting and celeberating acts of terrorism.The only hypocrisy i see and pretty much anyone who is not a settler is that jews live under one rule and the pali's live under different rules. Your a joke and who ever paid you to try to silence guys like Mr. MJ. Thanks MJ
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03:59 PM on 03/10/2010
Do not forget that Hamas received its initial funding and support from Israel. This was in an attempt to create a counter to the PLO (Fatah).
07:40 PM on 03/10/2010
Irgun and Lehi were considered terrorist groups. And look who was a terrorist in Irgun:

Menachem Begin – The Last Commander in Chief (1913-1992); first Likud Prime Minister of Israel.

Aryeh Ben-Eliezer - (1913-1970) – co-founder, Committee for the Rescue of European Jewry and later on the Committee for National Liberation. Elected to the Knesset as a Herut member and served as Deputy Speaker.

Yitzhak Shamir, joined the Irgun in 1937; joined the Stern faction in 1940; commander of the Lehi after Stern's assassination. 7th PM of Israel.

Shall we keep naming prominent Israelis who were classified terrorists?
01:11 PM on 03/10/2010
Not surprising at all.
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StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
11:37 AM on 03/10/2010
Mr. Rosenberg, good find on the extremists in Israel.

Now, in the interests of giving both sides a voice, are you going to write about this incident, when the PA named a square in Ramallah after Dalal Mughrabi, the perpetrator of the worst terror attack in Israeli history? Remember, this is the PA doing it, not a group of settlers.

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=1715
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11:51 AM on 03/10/2010
Ahh, it was the victims fault! Got it. Sady what nation has:
1. The longest running occupation of another country's soil?
2. The most active UN sanctions against it?
3. The largest clandestine nuclear arsenal in the middle east?

It ain't Syria
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StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
12:08 PM on 03/10/2010
1. China. It's been occupying Tibet for hundreds if not thousands of years. Other contenders including Iraq's occupation of Kurdistan, Turkey's occupation of Armenia, etc.
2. Not sure, why don't you read this and find out: http://www.globalpolicy.org/security-council/sanctions/un-sanctions-on-specific-countries.html
3. No one knows how big any Middle Eastern countries nuclear arsenal is, so I'm afraid I can't answer your question.

Now, would you like to respond to the topic of my post?
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pkafin
03:05 PM on 03/10/2010
As for #1, England has been in Ireland for hundreds of years.
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11:57 AM on 03/10/2010
Got it.
Cold blooded murder = Naming of a square in Ramallah
If you want to start revisionist history, why dont we start with the beginning of the conflict. You know, when proto-Israelies blew up the King's Hotel in Jeruselum, murdering British soldiers. Then we can work our way up to the most recent shelling of UN compounds in Gaza.
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StCuthbert
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12:39 PM on 03/10/2010
I think you need to read my post again.
01:53 PM on 03/10/2010
Wow. You are so desperate you don't even make sense.
10:41 AM on 03/10/2010
fanned Arsenic . . .
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11:16 AM on 03/10/2010
Seriously, I expect that he is writing his HuffPost rebuttal right now.
12:22 PM on 03/10/2010
Me too Arsenic! This video also puts into context the unrest at al-Aqsa Mosque - rumours had spread that settlers were coming to the Mosque to do just this.
The worst thing is that they all knew the words, so some sicko actually wrote the words of this ditty, and they sing it regularly.
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StCuthbert
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12:39 PM on 03/10/2010
Careful, Londoncall, you're projecting your explanations of the violence at al-Aqsa onto the Palestinians without actual facts to back them up.
10:29 AM on 03/10/2010
Now why am I not surprised?
01:42 PM on 03/10/2010
Nor am I--at all.
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10:27 AM on 03/10/2010
Dershowitz will be on later to explain how this is all just the Zionists showing extreme compassion, and explaining how it was all the victims fault.
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StCuthbert
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11:35 AM on 03/10/2010
Pretty sure Dershowitz doesn't like the settlers any more than you do.
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11:48 AM on 03/10/2010
Oh no, he has defended the settlements time and again. If you can point to an Alan Dershowitz editorial that is highly critical of anything that Isreal does, its probably a fake. Defending the settlements is the official policy of Israel. Dershowitz has never opposed anything Zionist, ever.