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Poll Shows U.S. Public Evenly Divided on Unilateral Palestinian State

Posted: 04/12/11 01:41 PM ET

It becomes more clear every day that Binyamin Netanyahu's government is terrified by the prospect that the Palestinians are planning to unilaterally declare a state later this year. In fact, it is safe to say that no other proposed Palestinian action has ever shaken up any Israeli government the way that the idea of a unilateral declaration has.

According to Haaretz, Prime Minister Netanyahu is so frightened at the prospect of a Palestinian declaration that he is considering withdrawing Israel forces (not settlers, of course) from the West Bank as an inducement to prevent the Palestinians from acting.

Netanyahu is weighing a withdrawal of Israel Defense Forces troops from the West Bank and a series of other measures to block the "diplomatic tsunami" that may follow international recognition of a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders at the United Nations General Assembly in September. Netanyahu's fear is well-placed.
Haaretz columnist Ari Shavit describes what would follow a unilateral Palestinian declaration:
At that moment, every Israeli apartment in Jerusalem's French Hill neighborhood will become illegal. Every military base in the West Bank will be contravening the sovereignty of an independent UN member state. The Palestinians will not be obligated to accept demilitarization and peace and to recognize the occupation.
That is true. But it is also true that an internationally recognized Palestinian state, with a flag flying at the United Nations, would level the playing field for negotiations.

Ever since Israeli-Palestinian negotiations began in 1993, they have been fundamentally unbalanced. On one side is the most powerful military power in the Middle East, backed to the hilt by the United States. On the other is a stateless people who control no territory, have no military, and are barely surviving economically.

That would change once a Palestinian state is declared. Of course, that new state would be weak and vulnerable, but it will have international law on its side, just as Israel does within the pre-'67 borders. Diplomatically, the two sides would finally be equal; negotiations between the two sides will be government-to-government, not between a powerful state and a supplicant.

Negotiations would have to take place simply because a Palestinian declaration does not, in and of itself, resolve such issues as mutual security, refugees, Jerusalem, and the rest. It simply ensures that such negotiations will, at long last, be serious.

Of course, a September declaration is no done deal. The Palestinians will first need to achieve unity so that the Palestinian state includes both the West Bank and Gaza. Although the International Monetary Fund now says that the West Bank alone already could constitute a viable Palestinian state, that is true only economically and not politically. A viable Palestinian state must include Gaza and be contiguous.

Palestinian unity will be difficult to achieve for many reasons, including the deep personal animosity between the leaders of Hamas and Fatah, the two rival Palestinian factions. An important first step toward unity would be for Hamas to adhere to a full cease-fire with Israel starting now (the last thing the Palestinian Authority wants is to declare a state that is at war with Israel). In fact, during the past week Hamas has been sending feelers to Israel about ending the violence between the two sides, which Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman says must be ignored.

It is not that Israel wants the strikes and counter-strikes to continue, it is that Netanyahu, Lieberman and company understand that a permanent cease-fire will foster the Palestinian unity necessary for a declaration of statehood. In fact, it is beginning to appear that preventing a unilateral declaration is Israel's primary diplomatic goal, one that informs all its policies relating to Palestinians. (Palestinians, for their part, understand that the very fact that the prospect of a declaration makes Israel so nervous indicates that it is precisely the right strategy to achieve a state and peace with Israel.)

Of course, the Obama administration is likely to do everything it can to thwart the Palestinians' plans. AIPAC is already working on Congressional letters calling on Obama to stop the declaration and, no doubt, an overwhelming majority of the House and Senate will sign on. (The 2012 election is looming and candidates and incumbents are highly focused on fundraising).

The good news is that the United States cannot use its veto to prevent Palestinian recognition by the United Nations. For Palestine, as for Israel in 1947, it is the General Assembly that confers statehood and not the Security Council. The administration would have to use the other tools in its kit to thwart the declaration; it has no veto.

On the other hand, maybe, just maybe, the administration will recognize that a unilateral declaration of statehood could be the one device that would achieve its oft-stated goal in the Middle East: "two states, Israel and Palestine, living side-by-side in peace and security."

The American people seem to be getting it. According to a poll released Monday by the right-wing Israel Project, only 51% of Americans oppose a unilateral Palestinian declaration of independence. 54% favor a Palestinian state achieved through negotiations.

For those familiar with polling on matters relating to Israelis and Palestinians, the results are startling. The percentage of support for the Israeli position is usually in the high 70s, while support for the Palestinians is in the teens. Suddenly there is a major shift, and this in a poll sponsored by an organization that clearly did not want to see findings like these.

Perhaps the Obama administration will come around too.

The United States should support the unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state, followed by serious negotiations. The alternative has been tried over and over again and it always fails. Why not try something that may actually achieve peace and security for two peoples who, like everyone else, are entitled to it? It is time for President Obama to deliver on the promise he made in Cairo to use his authority not to defend the deadly status quo but to end it.

 

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It becomes more clear every day that Binyamin Netanyahu's government is terrified by the prospect that the Palestinians are planning to unilaterally declare a state later this year. In fact, it is sa...
It becomes more clear every day that Binyamin Netanyahu's government is terrified by the prospect that the Palestinians are planning to unilaterally declare a state later this year. In fact, it is sa...
 
 
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Relpo Miraculous
Psychobiological Anthropology
02:59 AM on 04/14/2011
Serry’s report is designed to assist the social promotion of the Palestinians in September, through a resolution by a body that lacks the authority to confer statehood on anyone, much less anyone as patently unprepared as the Palestinians. The Palestinians have yet to complete Phase I of the “Performance-Based Roadmap,” which required that they put an end to all incitement, dismantle all terrorist groups and their infrastructure, and produce a constitution. Eight years later, the incitement continues, the premier terrorist group was voted into office in Gaza, and the constitution is unfinished.

Not to put too fine a point on it: if you can’t finish drafting your constitution; if your “president” is in the seventh year of his four-year term; if you have no functioning legislature and cannot hold parliamentary elections; if half your putative state is occupied by terrorists; if your education system is a cesspool of anti-Semitism; if you insist upon dedicating public squares to those who massacred civilians; if your ruling party is corroded by corruption; if you have no free press or independent judiciary; if you cannot implement anything in negotiations that you refuse to conduct in any event; and if you haven’t finished Phase I of the Roadmap . . . well, you might not be ready for a state.
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04:16 AM on 04/14/2011
You might be right but it didn't slow the Israelis down:

1) Founded by terrorists.
2) Elected several terrorists leaders as PM.
3) Continue to honor their terrorists.
4) No constitution 63 years after declaration.
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StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
09:36 AM on 04/14/2011
"1) Founded by terrorists­.
2) Elected several terrorists leaders as PM.
3) Continue to honor their terrorists­."

Boy, that sounds more like the Palestinians than the Israelis.
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Nwo2012
Sue me, I boycott products from the settlements
06:45 PM on 04/14/2011
Palestine obtains its legitimacy from the same place Israel claims legitimacy. From the recognition of other states. Thats it. Thats all they need.

All the individual members of the UN will recognize Palestine independently. They'll recognize its currency, its passports and its diplomats. Nothing else is necessary only helpful.
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fairwayhill
1948 Palestine belongs to the Palestinians
02:41 AM on 04/14/2011
Palestine belongs to the PaIestinia­ns, regardless of race or religion.
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fairwayhill
1948 Palestine belongs to the Palestinians
02:40 AM on 04/14/2011
There will never be peace with the occupiers of PaIestine.
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Relpo Miraculous
Psychobiological Anthropology
02:59 AM on 04/14/2011
Yes there will, and you are going to help make it happen.
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Erewhon7
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11:41 PM on 04/13/2011
EU rejects Palestinian statehood appeal

"The European Union rejected requests that it support a Palestinian plan for gaining recognition as an independent state at the U.N. Security Council without Israeli consent."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-11-17-eu-palestinian-appeal_N.htm
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jwcmass
I dream of things that never were and ask Why not
12:01 AM on 04/14/2011
Well, since this would be a UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY motion, NOT a Security Council vote, I am not sure what this means.
 
I rather think a lot depends on Abbas' ability to unite Hamas with the main Fatah-based PA. Abbas IS trying to do this -- I read where he was planning to travel to Gaza in an attempt to do this.
 
Perhaps some form of a National Unity Government.
 
Rather than bring a reluctant (and deceitful) Netanyahu to the table with Abbas, perhaps the US would be better off trying to facilitate this Palestinian reunification.
 
THAT ITSELF may bring Netanyahu to his senses, though given his lengthy track record, I have serious doubts.
 
But bringing this off WOULD help to create the conditions to bring about a vote before the UN General Assembly.
 
Ironically, it was NORWAY, not the US which facilitated the last serious peace effort -- Oslo. The US wasn't even aware what was going on.
02:23 AM on 04/14/2011
Updated 11/17/2009 ?
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Erewhon7
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11:35 PM on 04/13/2011
Reality is there are four states on former British Mandate Palestine territory ( in chronological order).
Jordan
Israel
Palestinain Authority
Gazastani Islamic Caliphate.
09:42 PM on 04/13/2011
Who cares what the Americans think at home. If the motion makes it to UN for a vote, it will pass.
07:32 PM on 04/13/2011
N8. Now, thinking about possible actions regarding the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians…

Some Palestinian leaders, like Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, have suggested
that the Palestinians break the stalemate and unilaterally declare an independent Palestinian state
WITHOUT a signed peace treaty with Israel.

Would you support or oppose the Palestinians doing this?

12% STRONGLY SUPPORT
19% NOT-SO-STRONGLY SUPPORT
22% NOT-SO-STRONGLY OPPOSE
29% STRONGLY OPPOSE

16% DON’T KNOW
2% REFUSED

31% TOTAL SUPPORT
51% TOTAL OPPOSE

And, thinking some more about this topic…

N9. If the Palestinians do NOT sign a peace treaty with Israel, do you think the United States should
recognize a unilaterally-declared Palestinian state?

14% STRONGLY YES
19% NOT-SO-STRONGLY YES
19% NOT-SO-STRONGLY NO
35% STRONGLY NO

11% DON’T KNOW
1% REFUSED

33% TOTAL YES
54% TOTAL NO
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08:18 PM on 04/13/2011
And what about a single, democratic, secular state combining Israel, the West Bank and Gaza?
08:33 PM on 04/13/2011
The objective is two states for two peoples. A one state solution disregards the political and national aspirations of both Jews and Arabs. Israel itself faces many challenges with orthodox Jews, and other elements that still need to be schooled on democracy and secularism. Getting the large masses of Palestinians to also play tune would not bear fruit during our lifetime.
06:45 PM on 04/13/2011
I get the impression, though I don't know first hand how true it is, that the Israeli version is the only story available in the mainstream in USA. Could this, if it is so, account for the apparent tendency for Americans to favour Israel? Or is that explanation too simple?
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doughnut70
12:44 PM on 04/13/2011
Although we can have different opinions on what the status quo is, one promise the President made forcefully that still is unkept was to move the embassy to Jerusalem. If he kept that, maybe he would be more trusted.
Michael II
Neither the one, nor the only
07:49 AM on 04/14/2011
By whom? He has already vetoed a condemnation of continued settlement build - which is the official US position - and now would move the embassy to Jerusalem? Well maybe it would at least remove the current pretence of impartiality.
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doughnut70
10:51 PM on 04/16/2011
How. The location of Israel's capitol has been a subject of debate for some time. As a candidate the President pledged to move the embassy and to support Israel's claim as part of an overall peace settlement. Why would following through on that not be showing to those that doubt him the most, that he means what he says ?(which includes a pledge to enforce peace which is a part of what pro-Israel people doubt). You are confusing impartiality with pushing Israel to accept a Palestinian homeland which is precisely what needs to be decided.
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califlefty
Fighting back against the lies
12:28 PM on 04/13/2011
If the Pals declared their state would the author finally be satisfied or would the conversation then move to the partition borders and free parking in Tel Aviv?
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11:59 AM on 04/13/2011
There are hundreds of thousands of ignorant religious fundamentalists in the occupied territories. They are armed and will very clearly articulate that god gave them the land and that Arabs must leave because they are not "chosen". They have been breed to expand the Israeli borders and are now politically powerful. This is the Israeli reality now. It doesn't end well.
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lbsaltzman
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01:59 PM on 04/13/2011
I agree. The settler movement was designed to help Israel steal what was left of historical Palestine. Now it is a monster with a life of its own.
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Kramerica-Industries
And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken
02:48 PM on 04/13/2011
Such a racist generalizing comment on any other group of people would never be allowed to be posted.
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04:06 PM on 04/13/2011
I was unaware that settlers are a race. :))
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11:41 AM on 04/13/2011
Abbas announced his intention to go meet with Hamas just before the $hit broke out on the border between Hamas and Israel. It seems there are those in Hamas who are as determined as Netanyahu to see that step one of this declaration doesn't happen.
11:25 AM on 04/13/2011
What has Israel done for the United States lately?
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Kramerica-Industries
And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken
11:41 AM on 04/13/2011
This week, Weizmann Institute of Science engineered enzyme which protects against nerve gas.
multidisciplinary team of scientists at the Weizmann Institute of Science succeeded in developing an enzyme that efficiently breaks down certain forms of nerve gas before damage to nerves and muscles can ensue. Their results were published in Nature Chemical Biology.
You are welcomed.
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Nwo2012
Sue me, I boycott products from the settlements
12:35 PM on 04/13/2011
Gee! Thanks Israel. Can sleep without my gasmask now?
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califlefty
Fighting back against the lies
12:27 PM on 04/13/2011
turn in your computer and pharmas and find out.
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12:35 PM on 04/13/2011
Oh dear, it's the Israel invented water and oxygen folks. :))))
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CigarGod
What is your process?
09:35 PM on 04/13/2011
I thought the Chinese invented the Abacus.
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GuyCybershy
11:14 AM on 04/13/2011
Why do they bother will polls like this one? The US governmnet will continue to support whatever Israel does no matter what the American people think.
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12:39 PM on 04/13/2011
But then there are those, every now and then, who end up in a position of power and are not facing re-election.

" Fcuk the Jews, They Wont Vote For US Anyway”-Secretary of State James Baker
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AGooglyMinotaur
Ahh, Theseus. It appears you are out of thread.
11:03 AM on 04/13/2011
After 18 years of no progress, I'd say it's worth a shot. Of course, I support the Israeli military's right to march straight back in if there's rocket fire coming from across the border.
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11:17 AM on 04/13/2011
Agreed.
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AGooglyMinotaur
Ahh, Theseus. It appears you are out of thread.
11:58 AM on 04/13/2011
That makes exactly twice that we've agreed, in more than a year of back and forth. :)

Nice to find common ground.