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Romney Destroys Netanyahu's Big Week

Posted: 03/ 7/2012 10:30 am

We have one person to thank for the fact that President Barack Obama successfully let Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu know 'who's the boss' both at the AIPAC conference and at a meeting between the two at the White House on Monday.

Thank you, Mitt Romney.

Imagine if things had worked out the way Netanyahu wanted them to: Romney would have turned out to be an excellent candidate who crushed his opponents with dispatch. He would not only have the Republican nomination sewn up by now, but he would be the frontrunner to win in November (especially if the economy was trending down and not up).

Under those circumstances, Bibi would have treated Obama the way he treated President Clinton during the ridiculous Lewinsky brouhaha. He essentially ignored him, hanging out with then-Speaker Newt Gingrich and sending the word to his followers that Clinton was likely to be removed by Congress. For Bibi, who hated Clinton's alliance with the late Yitzhak Rabin and his commitment to Rabin's vision, it was all 'happy days are here again.'

That was how Monday was supposed to be, too. Instead, Netanyahu met with an invigorated president who, thanks to Romney, Gingrich, Santorum and the rest of the weak GOP field, looks like an almost sure bet for re-election in November. Bibi understood that any attempt to embarrass Obama or diss him in front of his AIPAC buddies would haunt him for five more years.

Even worse, it could cost him his job. Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir rallied AIPAC against the first President Bush, leading Bush to all but endorse his opponent, Yitzhak Rabin and bring about Shamir's defeat. AIPAC gives ovations to Israeli leaders who challenge U.S. Presidents. But the Israeli people don't, because they live there and understand how much Israel needs the United States (no, AIPAC, it is not the other way around).

So that is why Monday was Bibi's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day.

Start with Obama's speech to AIPAC. Netanyahu had asked that the United States redraw its "red line" from actual Iranian development of a nuclear bomb to the mere capability to do so. Should Iran cross the line, we would go to war. Obama mentioned no red lines and did not change U.S. policy. He maintains his latitude to do what he thinks is right.

Netanyahu wanted Obama to agree that the diplomatic route is dead; that sanctions can be utilized, but only to produce "crippling" pain on Iranians as a prelude to war. Instead, Obama emphasized diplomacy, mentioning it over and over again as the surest way to end the stalemate.

Netanyahu wanted Obama to make clear that if Israel attacks Iran, the United States will have its back. Obama agreed with the prime minister that "no Israeli government can tolerate" a nuclear weapon in Iranian hands, seemingly giving Netanyahu a go-ahead to bomb. But Bibi knows that means nothing unless the U.S. will join in the attack, and Obama made it clear that he is not there. Not even close. The president said:

As President and Commander-in-Chief, I have a deeply held preference for peace over war. I have sent men and women into harm's way. I've seen the consequences of those decisions in the eyes of those I meet who've come back gravely wounded, and the absence of those who don't make it home. Long after I leave this office, I will remember those moments as the most searing of my presidency. And for this reason, as part of my solemn obligation to the American people, I will only use force when the time and circumstances demand it.

In other words, he understands that Israel will do what it is going to do. But as president, he won't join in unless the U.S. is directly threatened. Vice President Biden's idea that there must be "no daylight" between Israeli and U.S. policies was noticeably absent.

It didn't get any better for Netanyahu when he met with Obama at the White House.

Netanyahu tried hard to get Obama to go the Biden "no daylight" route. But Obama wasn't buying. When Bibi came out with the outlandish and chutzpah-laden line "we are you and you are us," Obama was silent. His message was: "We believe that there is still a window that allows a diplomatic solution to this issue."

No wonder Netanyahu seemed so deflated when he delivered his much-heralded speech to AIPAC. It is enough to say that its highlight was when he justified war with Iran using a biblical story about a bad Persian tyrant who tried to destroy the Jewish people 2,500 years ago. (Pathetically, Bibi gave Obama a copy of the Bible story to use in his deliberations.)

It only got worse for Netanyahu today when Obama stated at a press conference that diplomacy remains his preferred route. Obama spoke just after the announcement that the United States, Russia, China, France, Britain and Germany would commence negotiations with Iran on the nuclear issue.

Unlike last time when, at Netanyahu's insistence, the United States imposed a 3-month deadline, this time negotiations will be open-ended. According to the New York Times, the talks would "help relieve pressure from Israel to use military force against Teheran."

At his press conference, Obama at one point spoke as if he was directly addressing the neocons:

I think there's no doubt that those who are suggesting or proposing or beating the drums of war should explain clearly to the American people what they think the costs and benefits would be. I'm not one of those people.

Because what I've said is, is that we have a window through which we can resolve this issue peacefully. We have put forward an international framework that is applying unprecedented pressure. The Iranians just stated that they are willing to return to the negotiating table, and we've got the opportunity, even as we maintain that pressure, to see how it plays out.

Netanyahu returns to Israel. From the perspective of a hawk, his trip was an utter failure. He came here looking for a partner for war but leaves feeling lonely. War is much less likely.

Well played, Mr. President. And, Mitt, thank you.

 

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09:34 AM on 03/20/2012
Yes, thank you Barak (means: "the gift") Obama. Perhaps the American people do deserve a good leader. Prior to this the majority of them were unthankful, moronic bullies. Through war however they have learned an important lesson and that is that as the "enemy" suffers, so will you suffer. This is a reversal of the actual wisdom from the Quran that comforts the oppressed with the notion that the oppressor also suffers and is intended to create courage.

Well it works both ways you see.
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02:53 AM on 03/15/2012
Some very interesting points as usual. Perhaps Rosenberg is
right that the President's dangerous dance with the neocon's
on attacking Iran is a little less likely than we thought.
I hope so as we can not even afford to have
a relatively small and short lived conflict,
as they always promise.

We can not and should not stick our nose into
every country around the world, we need to
concentrate on rebuilding the US.
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08:46 PM on 03/11/2012
"a bad Persian tyrant who tried to destroy the Jewish people 2,500 years ago. (Pathetically, Bibi gave Obama a copy of the Bible story to use in his deliberations.)" I do not believe that this story has ever been verified by any other source despite most of the Persian Empire's actions being recorded.
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06:33 PM on 03/12/2012
Yeah the Persians hated Jews so much they made one into a Queen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther
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11:00 AM on 03/13/2012
Anyone can enter information into Wikipedia. One can read the same for many Bible (fables) stories.
01:53 AM on 03/14/2012
According to the tale it was not known by the king and the court she was Jewish. It was only revealed after the plot by Hamen to kill the Jews in Persia was hatched . Also it's only a bible story and not wise to take it literally.
04:33 PM on 03/10/2012
Good article.
01:24 PM on 03/10/2012
Well done, president Obama and thank you from a Lebanese who had to leave his country because of it being aggressed so many times.
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02:54 AM on 03/15/2012
yes, a tragic situation....I hope it's not dragged
into a Syrian conflict...
09:27 AM on 03/15/2012
I hope not because if the conflict drags on in Syria, it wil have numerous consequences depending on:
If Assad is overthrown, he will be replaced by Islamic extremists linked with the theocratic Gulf countries, Islamic Turkey and other Islamists in the Middle East and North Africa. With Turkish power and GULF money, Turkey will be tempted to retrun to its Otttoman Empire linking the Middle Eastern Arab lands with North Africa. Only one country is on its way. I don't think Netanyahu noticed that, because all he wants is to get rid of Iran and he cannot attack Iran without finding first a new route for the oil. This route is to be a huge pipeline passing by the city of Homs, but not with Assad in power in Damascus, being allied to Iran and Russia who both would be hurt by this pipeline.
If It is a long civil and confessional war, all the Middle East will be hurt because all countries fron Iran to Lebanon will be drawn in the conflioct, even Israel.
The best way to solve the problem is helping the Syrians build a democracy a real one and then help the Israelis and the Arabs have peace together.
This what Obama wanted to do. But Netanyahu was on his way. Gideon Levy wrote in haaretz about the visit of Netranyahu: It will be the meeting of the cricket and the elephant but who is the cricket and whpo is the elepant?
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Trollstein
Once you go Schwartz, you never go back baby
08:57 AM on 03/09/2012
"[Obama] looks like an almost sure bet for re-election in November."
Even if I were Mrs.Michelle Obama I would still say that the above statement is nonsensical.
Mr. Obama was elected on a platform of change and reform. What we got was more of the same (often sleezy) business as usual. The voters in general are not happy. What this means is that even traditional Democrats (like myself) will not be voting for Mr. Obama again. He had his shot and blew it. We (the people) want the power to discharge our leaders. Otherwise we are their pawns--and chumps.
At this time the Republicans have pummelled one another into a weak collective position. This phaqse will pass and while some of the damage will remain in November,not remotely enough to over shadow the economic decline of the United States, et al.
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Aussieposter
And so it begins
12:45 AM on 03/10/2012
I doubt very much if you voted for Obama in the first place. The sense I have is that your politics are located more to the right. The U.S. system of Government is designed to make change difficult if not impossible.

Especially so when one considers the broad canvass that has to cast over the respective Democratic and Republican Parties. Getting either one to vote as a disciplined party block is like trying to herd cats.

The health debate is the perfect example of that. Which is a change that Obama successfully brought in. Now if you are going to argue that you do not support that socialist change, since it was part of Obama's election campaign, i would suspect that you were being less than honest when you claimed to have voted for him.
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Trollstein
Once you go Schwartz, you never go back baby
07:21 AM on 03/10/2012
1/2:
So now you claim to know what I did in a private voting booth 3.5 years ago. Why am I not surprised? As it turns out, I supported Obama so long ago that most of my black friends had not yet even heard of him. When he became more well known, the issue was still not over. Because I am from the North East where Hillary was staking her hometown claim. I had to convince my black friends to vote for Obama. I am not sure I was entirely successful, particularly among African-American women.
So much for your oracle abilities. Please stick to misrepresenting things you know about. Example:
What Mr. Obama did with health care was merely to charge everyone more to get more services for everyone. So, why not? Because what we got was only a chump fraction of the extra we paid. The corporations got the lion's share of the excess revenues. There is no provision allowing citizens to purchase their health insurance across state borders. Why? Price fixing. With these rules, large employers like McDonald's buy their insurance below provider cost and small parties have to subsidize the largest corporations by making up the difference.
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Trollstein
Once you go Schwartz, you never go back baby
07:22 AM on 03/10/2012
2/2:
My parents were commies and my father is mentioned by name in a few historical references. My grandfather was 60 days away from being appointed the FIRST president of the ILGWU, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILGWU when he died under mysterious circumstances. There was yet no Israel but he was an avowed 'Zionist'. My parents were both strong supporters of Israel, as was Jane Fonda, Ralph Nader and Eugene McCarthy. On many issues I am clearly to Mr. Obama's LEFT. In a few examples I agree with the right. But that does not make me any sort of Republican, as I have never voted for an "R" CEO in my entire life. All that means is that I analyze each issue on its specific merits. Something that most people should be doing, especially now that we are into the 'age of information'. Sadly, as you have repeatedly proven (here and before) we are also now into the age of 'disinformation'.
08:06 AM on 03/09/2012
The state of the Republican nomination process has no bearing whatsoever on Iran's race to acquire nuclear weapons - and no bearing whatsover on Israel's reaction to it.

Even if, hypothetically, Romney had secured the nomination by now, this would be totally irrelevant to the way Israel would deal with the person who will DEFINITELY be president of the USA until at least January 2013.

This article is based on a false premise.

Also, I note that Mr Rosenberg's weekly articles are all close to identical - an unsubstantiated AIPAC and Israel bash.
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Trollstein
Once you go Schwartz, you never go back baby
09:01 AM on 03/09/2012
I have posted in the past that Mr. Rosenberg's articles seem to be a weekly rehashing of the same basic material. If this one gets through mods, it will be my first such comment that has.
10:40 PM on 03/08/2012
Romney is always talking about going to war. Of his five sons, how many of them have served their country?
08:36 PM on 03/08/2012
Wow. This article is political spin at its best (or worst?) netanyahu didn't seem "deflated" and there didn't seem to be a huge gap between what he said and what obama said. Obama merely emphasized diplomacy while leaving military action on the table. Don't think netanyahu was hoping for much more than that.
But if Mr. Rosenberg (who clearly has a personal vendetta against Netanyahu and AIPAC) wants to spin this as horrible for israel's leadership, he can happily do so.
Hope diplomacy works, but I fear people like MJ Rosenberg would rather be "right" and have nuclear armed Iran (and watch what that would do to middle east diplomacy and oil prices - a nuclear armed Iran could easily close the straights of Hormuz) than "wrong" about this stuff and see Iran halted.
This IS NOT an Israeli-Iran issue. It is a WORLD-Iran issue. The world has so much at stake here, Israel is merely on the front lines as the only western style democracy in the region (and as the country Iran's leaders openly want to see eliminated).
Even those against military action have to understand that. And military threats must be on the table or Iran will clearly ignore diplomatic efforts.
I hope Iran makes the right choice. And I hope people like MJ Rosenberg stop trying to spin everything based on personal vendettas and anti-anything Israel bias.
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Trollstein
Once you go Schwartz, you never go back baby
09:03 AM on 03/09/2012
Bravo.
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notmisaacm
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08:34 PM on 03/08/2012
Romney is so insignificant, the fact that he and his fellow Republicans are trying to act tough on Iran doesn't impact anyone, except Rosenberg of course. Rosenberg is so obsessively anti-Netanyahu that he went through amazing contortions to write this article claiming that somehow Netanyahu and Romney are fighting Obama, or something like that. The reality is that Obama's speech was excellent, he has a clear grasp of the issues and is making policy for the benefit of both the US (1st) and Israel (2nd). He understands how terrible it would be to have a nuclear Iran, not just for Israel, but for the rest of the world.

The fact that Obama is doing something for the benefit of Israel, and indirectly Netanyahu, seems to have sent Rosenberg over the edge. Rosenberg was probably hoping that Obama would do everything that Netanyahu demanded, then Rosenberg could write one of his classic 'AIPAC controls the world" columns, or Rosenberg was hoping that Obama would humiliate Netanyahu, allowing Rosenberg to gloat.
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11:35 AM on 03/08/2012
TAIBBI: As a journalist, there’s a buzz you can detect once normal restraints in your business have been loosened, a smell of fresh chum in the waters, urging us down the road to war. Many years removed from Iraq disaster, that smell is back, this time with Iran.

You can just feel it: many of same newspapers and TV stations we saw leading the charge in the Bush years have gone back to the attic and are dusting off their war pom-poms. CNN’s house blockhead, the Goldman-trained ex-finance professional Erin Burnett, came out with doozie of a broadcast yesterday, a Rumsfeldian jeremiad against the Iranian threat would have fit beautifully in Saddam’s-sending-drones-at-New-York halcyon days of late 2002. Here’s how the excellent Glenn Greenwald described Burnett’s rant:

It’s the sort of thing you would produce if you set out to create a mean-spirited parody of mindless, war-hungry, fear-mongering media stars, but you wouldn’t dare go this far because you’d want parody to have a feel of realism to it, and this would be way too extreme to be believable. She really hauled it all out: WMDs! Terrorist sleeper cells in U.S. controlled by Tehran! Iran’s long-range nuclear missiles reaching our homeland!!!! She almost made the anti-Muslim war-mongering fanatic she brought on to interview, Rep. Peter King, appear sober and reasonable by comparison.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/another-march-to-war-20120217#ixzz1oXlzzXVx
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10:18 AM on 03/08/2012
Netahyahu's biggest accomplishment was demonstrating to the American people that suppport for this Israeli government is only for the right wing reactionaries.
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10:12 PM on 03/07/2012
GOLDBERG: What would your position be if Israel weren't in this picture?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: It would still be a profound national-security interest of the United States to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.

GOLDBERG: Why, then, is this issue so often seen as binary, always defined as Israel versus Iran?

I want to make clear that when we travel around the world and make presentations about this issue, that's not how we frame it. We frame it as: this is something in the national-security interests of the United States and in the interests of the world community. And I assure you that Europe would not have gone forward with sanctions on Iranian oil imports -- which are very difficult for them to carry out, because they get a lot of oil from Iran -- had it not been for their understanding that it is in the world's interest, to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/obama-to-iran-and-israel-as-president-of-the-united-states-i-dont-bluff/253875/
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11:01 AM on 03/08/2012
Fair enough. A nuclear Iran would be quite destabilizing... But wouldn't having Israel allow some of its nuclear sites open for inspection make that medicine a little easier to swallow?
It's not as if its going to hurt Israel tactically. Everyone already knows they have nukes, and roughly how many. Inspections wont change that. If anything, it might assuage some ego issues among the Iranians and pave the way for inspections, negotiations, some sort of dialogue...

Ultimately, we have to ask whether the point of all this is to prevent Iran from getting weaponized nukes, or is it simply to rile them up to war so that Bibi can win another election...
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Trollstein
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09:06 AM on 03/09/2012
Israel, most likely has weapons that no one has ever seen or knows to even exist. Why should they agree to allow the world to gain such technology through documentation?
Israel may be the only nation in the entire world who actually NEEDS such weapons.
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Aussieposter
And so it begins
01:15 AM on 03/10/2012
The reason why Israel cannot and will not allow inspections is that while Israel's weapons are in the realm of a nudge and a wink. The U.S. and the U.N. can ignore the fact that Israel has not signed the NNPT.

As you will recall North Korea is also not a signatory, and pressure through sanctions were applied to get it to sign and comply with the treaty. Technically the U.S and The U.N. would have to do the same thing to Israel if it's nukes were actually confirmed (Nudge wink)

The problem here being that Iran has not actually done anything other than to progress through the process of building a nuclear generator to produce power. This it is allowed to do under the NNPT. While going through the process of producing nuclear electricity it will gain the ability to build a Nuclear bomb.

Remember the NNPT does not preclude attaining knowledge and ability, it precludes building bombs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/18/israel-strike-iran-martin-dempsey_n_1286961.html?ref=israel

"American intelligence assessments say that Iran would have the capability to build a nuclear bomb in the coming years, but it has not yet decided whether to do so."

Israel does not just fear the actual construction of a bomb it fears the knowledge needed to construct it.
11:41 AM on 03/08/2012
First of all, I haven't read the article.

Second, I have no interest.

Third, from just that exchange is representative of the reason why?

Fourth, Goldberg's response should have been, "Well tell us Mr. President, how is it in the interest of the U.S. for Iran not to have nuclear weapons, as oppose to Israel, Pakistan and Indian?

Because the follow up didn't happen explains the pro-jewish biases reflected in the American media as exemplified by a dissenting article by Walt and Mearsheimer appeared in the Financial Times of London not the U.S. media.

http://www.salon.com/2012/03/08/washingtons_new_antiwar_movement/
07:01 PM on 03/07/2012
Hey rosy. Going to get outraged at the slaughter of Muslims in Syria any time soon or is it only little democratic Israel that occupies ur bile
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12:54 AM on 03/08/2012
Look, there's a country that's beating people up even worse!!!
04:23 AM on 03/08/2012
Look there another apologist for the slaughter going on in Syria Sad
Rosin the Bow
Palestine doesn't want peace. Meshaal said so
08:25 AM on 03/08/2012
That's true, but since it's an Arab country who cares?
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11:46 AM on 03/08/2012
This is a forum on Israel, not Syria. Most people who are opposed to the occupation of Palestine are also opposed to the vicious Syrian regime that is oppressing their people. You are just trying to finger point to take the heat off of Israel.
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06:12 PM on 03/07/2012
Netanyahu, and the Likud regime, are war mongers.

Most Americans do not want war with Iran, and most Israelis don't, only Avigdor LIeberman and the settler gang do.

Obama should say to Netanyahu, make peace with Palestine before you start another war, Obama should teach Netanyahu who is boss.