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Winning: Obama at AIPAC

Posted: 05/22/11 03:56 PM ET

I didn't expect anything good to come out of President Barack Obama's AIPAC speech today. I was wrong.

The President strongly endorsed "two states for two peoples" and explained to a skeptical crowd that the status quo is Israel's worst enemy.

Politely and nicely, he stuck it to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu by explaining that Bibi's faux-outrage over the '67 lines is utterly bogus. This was critical. He showed, citing history, that there is absolutely nothing new about saying that peace must be built on the '67 lines with modifications (made up by land swaps).

And AIPAC accepted it, even applauded it. The right-wing meme was destroyed, as much by AIPAC's reaction as by Obama's explanation.

Yes, he gave AIPAC the usual Israel boilerplate. He'll veto a unilaterally declared Palestinian state, etc. But all that stuff is standard and subject to change as situations change. However, the overarching message was the necessity for two states and the unsustainability of the occupation.

And AIPACapplauded. Strongly.

The President did a masterful job. The neocons are outraged. And I expect that Netanyahu, seeing AIPAC's reaction to their President, will cut his losses and back down.

Bravo, Mr. President. You even brought out the best in AIPAC.

You gave us all -- Americans, Israelis, Palestinians -- reason for hope.

You laid the groundwork. Now it is time for some serious action. This is your moment.
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Check out Michael Tomasky in Daily Beast. He thinks Netanyahu's insolent tantrum at the White House might finish him off.

 

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I didn't expect anything good to come out of President Barack Obama's AIPAC speech today. I was wrong. The President strongly endorsed "two states for two peoples" and explained to a skeptical crowd ...
I didn't expect anything good to come out of President Barack Obama's AIPAC speech today. I was wrong. The President strongly endorsed "two states for two peoples" and explained to a skeptical crowd ...
 
 
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09:53 AM on 05/23/2011
The pre-1967 borders have been American policy for 20 years. The faux outrage and ignorance of the American media on this topic demonstrates why it is so easy for rightwing propaganda to control our national dialogue.

The spectacle of the right cheering on a foreign leader disrespecting our own president has been disgusting, but sadly not atypical for them.
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StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
09:18 AM on 05/23/2011
Eric Cantor nails it,
"In order for us to win this great struggle, we must have the courage to see the world not as we wish it to be, but as it truly is. It is not morally equivalent when the offenses of terrorists are equated with the defenses of Israel. 
The following story illustrates Israel's dilemma.  
A Palestinian woman from Gaza arrives at Soroka Hospital in Beersheba for lifesaving skin treatment for burns over half her body. After the conclusion of her extensive treatment, the woman is invited back for follow-up visits to the outpatient clinic. One day she is caught at the border crossing wearing a suicide belt. Her intention? To blow herself up at the same clinic that saved her life. 
This is the root of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. It is not about the '67 lines."
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lbsaltzman
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12:23 PM on 05/23/2011
When Israel uses the tactics of terrorism, to steal land from the Palestinians and to engage in wars of aggression that slaughter civilians then Israel is engaging in behavior that is the moral equivalent of a terrorist group.
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StCuthbert
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12:44 PM on 05/23/2011
You think stealing land is morally equivalent to murdering doctors who just healed you?
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
09:10 AM on 05/23/2011
How can this be??
MJ has assured us all over and over that AIPAC controls our foreign policy and that the president and congress is subservient to them.
So many "truisms" must be reevaluated...
06:31 AM on 05/23/2011
you can see peace through Bibi's eyes if you respell it as piece, a piece of land, dunum by dunum, of lilegally occupied land in the West Bank taken and used for more settlements. The latest: taking down a section of wall already in the West Bank so that settlements can go beyond the wall, which presumably, will be rebuilt and patrolled by Israeli Defence Forces. Hard to see how pece has much of a chance when Bibi acts in such a way and Hamas continues its case for terror. We've learned just one thing from the region in recent months: there are no adults in charge anywhere from Tunisia to Yemen, Israel under Bibi included.
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09:40 AM on 05/23/2011
What do you mean...illegally occupied land. All countries win land in war..nobody return it. Israel would have given the Palestinians a better life if they lived in peace. They had to close themselves off from terror attacks and they must protect their borders...I would stop picking on everything Israel does as it is not the equivalent of terrorists or their horrible attacks...Peace has little to no chance if you look at Hamas entering the picture...and look at the rockets flying into Israel..it is ok for the Palestinians to kill innocent children...but anything Israel does is an internation frenzy..
07:10 PM on 05/23/2011
"What do you mean...ill­egally occupied land. All countries win land in war..nobod­y return it"

Pardon me? So Iraq because a State of the Union in 2003, did it?
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JoGo3338
08:06 AM on 05/26/2011
More anti Israel rhetoric...the 67 lines will never be Israel's borders..If they were, there would be no Israel..When your neighbor's only desire is for your destruction, you just can't be friends. And don't blame Israel...Israel is not hurling rockets at people making the borders an issue. Israel must be able to defend it's security and the safety of it's people.
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lbsaltzman
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12:25 PM on 05/23/2011
Well put! Israel is only interested in the theft of Palestinian land. They do not want peace and will sabotage all efforts at peace.
11:14 PM on 05/22/2011
MJ, I noticed that the 2010 and 2009 "Dear Colleague" letters as well as the lists of signatories are missing from the AIPAC website. The ones where congress kneecapped Obama and sided with Netanyahu. Do you have any idea why that is?
10:52 PM on 05/22/2011
I figured if he was gonna totally back down he would do it at the AIPAC speech so I was bit surprised he held strong as well. Then again, he wasn't holding strong for any new or revolutionary ideas or plans. He's "holding strong" against Netanyahu making silly, overreaching demands. Saying that the borders must be based on pre-'67 lines and include mutually agreed upon land swaps is widely considered to be the most moderate of positions and has been for years.
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01:23 AM on 05/23/2011
Israel and Palestine desperately need a game change--for their own sakes. For the sake of the whole region and for the sake of American interests they need a game change. People who still think that President Obama is not capable of advancing or fostering hope and change are not looking in the right places or at the big picture.

Besides, anything that gets the Neocons knickers in a knot and incites the Israeli PM to a tantrum has got to be on the right track--by default.
01:57 PM on 05/23/2011
"Besides, anything that gets the Neocons knickers in a knot and incites the Israeli PM to a tantrum has got to be on the right track--by default."

Eh, I refuse to get my hopes up about anything anymore. All of this brouhaha over nothing will only amount to something if Obama is prepared to make some genuinely hard choices and stick to them.

"People who still think that President Obama is not capable of advancing or fostering hope and change are not looking in the right places or at the big picture."

I hope you're right. Just not sure that I agree. Maybe in his second term.
10:11 PM on 05/22/2011
Agreed....it is now a question of followthrough. Obama was masterful!

It is about time we resolved this problem, and moved our attention to China instead of this festering sore. As it is, the real risk is that China will "buy" the defecting panicking Sheiks, and we will lose out.
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09:34 PM on 05/22/2011
The dented can that is Israel gets kicked down the road again.
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tacevad
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08:09 PM on 05/22/2011
if indeed "The neocons are outraged." I say good Job Mr. President
05:54 PM on 05/22/2011
I do not believe President Obama is as strong as he should be with Tel Aviv but even so apologists are having a problem with Mr Obama not coming all out 'rabid and blind' in support of Israel. Actually, for the first time, we have a president in American today.
Perhaps Netanyahu should think twice before slapping Americans publicly. Netanyahu’s press conference was an affront in response to unending support for Israel and to American hospitality http://bit.ly/NetanyahuStealsGenerously
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JoGo3338
09:42 AM on 05/23/2011
Obama did what he had to and Netanyahu did what he had to...
Michael II
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05:05 PM on 05/22/2011
The danger of relying solely on a status quo can be seen in the re-opening of Rafah Crossing. It's amazing that the Knesset still thinks they can send back the tide.
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Tobias Riepe
04:12 PM on 05/22/2011
I fail to be impressed.
For one, Israel has absolutely no incentive to agree, since Obama made it clear that there will be no US pressure on Israel.
Secondly, "swaps" are a nebulous concept which can simply mean "annexation". Under Clinton, "swap" meant that Israel took 100km2 of prime real estate and gave back 30km2 of desert.

The world has heard Obama's kind of speech a hundred times before. It won't change anything. The future role of the US is going to be what it has always been: Bankrolling Israel. Nothing else.
02:21 AM on 05/23/2011
That's a very important point i.e. Obama said "based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed land swaps". He did NOT say: based on the 1967 lines with equal land swaps.

Once Netanyahu recovers from that burst blood vessel in his brain he's certain to spot that difference, then gleefully announce that he'll offering two falafels and a brass shekel in exchange for all the settlement blocs and - hey, whaddidItellya! - if Abbas won't agree then we all know who's not serious about peace!

Bibi may be venal he's not stupid; he'll leap at the difference between "equal" and "agreed".

After all, Israel has spent 40+years arguing over the word "the".......
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joeinvt
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09:25 AM on 05/23/2011
"Israel has absolutely no incentive to agree, since Obama made it clear that there will be no US pressure on Israel."

Whose responsibility is it to pressure the Palestinians?
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roguescr1be
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01:29 PM on 05/23/2011
The Israelis. They do it daily.