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Democrats on Verge of Repeating Ted Kennedy Mistake of 1979

Posted: 09/20/11 02:06 PM ET

Students of political history already know the story of the late Senator Ted Kennedy in 1979. Others like Mo'Kelly are old enough to simply remember it. For everyone else, it goes a little something like this. Democratic party discontent with President Jimmy Carter for all things ranging from the American gas crisis to the Iran hostages; reached its nadir when Senator Ted Kennedy decided to mount a Democratic challenge against the sitting president.

Proponents of the idea argued that the party needed a "stronger" candidate in the general election, regardless of the Republican competition. Opponents argued it would rip the party apart and send moderates and independents into the ballot box to vote Republican.

Ted Kennedy entering the fray splintered the Democratic party pure and simple and presented the public face that the party had lost all faith in its own president. It led to disastrous consequences.

Jimmy Carter held off Kennedy and then was summarily thrashed in the general election, losing to Ronald Reagan in one of the largest landslides in election history. Independents and moderates swung heavily for Reagan and Democratic turnout was comparatively low.

The term "Reagan Democrats" was given to the tangible and palpable disaffected and ultimately defected Democratic voters.

The political lesson supposedly learned on that day was the in-party dissension fractured the base and all-but-ensured a Republican victory.

In 2011, Republicans have been working night and day to make the historical connection between President Obama and President Carter; the cerebral, intelligent yet ineffective Democratic president of the 20th century. And just like the spineless Democrats they tend to be, they have been eating it up with extra helpings, rushing to repeat history and the same mistakes.

Is President Obama in trouble? Absolutely. Does his party have legitimate reason to voice a level of discontent in regards to how we've arrived at this point in history? Surely. But repeating the "Ted Kennedy" mistakes of 1979 only ensures that either Rick Perry or Mitt Romney easily waltzes into the Oval Office in a landslide manner.

What do I mean? Rumors are growing daily that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (and others) are preparing to mount a Democratic primary challenge to the president. It would be fiasco 1980 all over again. The primary rejection of Ted Kennedy had largely to do with memories of Chappaquiddick still dancing in voters' heads and a reluctance to continue the Kennedy political monarchy. More importantly, it sent the message to America that the Democrats had lost all faith in the sitting president.

To suggest that there is a Democrat more "electable" than the sitting president of the United States is foolhardy on its best day, irrespective of party. You will always have a better chance of keeping the White House outright through re-election, than trading politicians from the same party.. If the president is not supported by his own party, Americans take notice. If Democrats put forth the idea that they need a new candidate, you can bet America will follow suit. In relation to Hillary Clinton, to surmise that independents and moderates will opt for a cabinet member of the very administration in which they by implication are rejecting is even more silly.

Al Gore lost in his 2000 bid to become president in large part due to a rejection of the idea of a Clinton continuation in the wake of Monica Lewinsky. If you thought it was hard to elect Barack Obama, how hard do you think it would be to elect Hillary Clinton on the heels of Barack Obama?

You can't criticize the foreign policy of the administration regarding Libya and in turn offer up the Secretary of State as a presidential alternative. That's simply silly. Democrats are going to have to ride the Obama train until the wheels fall off. But having the wheels fall off is distinctly different from unscrewing the lug nuts and pulling them off yourself.

Offering up Democratic primary challengers is self-sabotage of the worst order.

If Democrats wish to bite off their nose to spite their face and send a message to President Obama... feel free, knock yourself out. Just know that you will only be validating the comparisons to Jimmy Carter and ensuring that history accordingly follows the Carter narrative, complete with a landslide defeat.

If Democrats are unhappy with President Obama, just wait for "President Perry."

Despite the Republican talking points, 2012 is for the Democrats to lose. Let's not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with an ill-conceived primary strategy and repeat Carter history.

 

Morris W. O'Kelly (Mo'Kelly) is a political correspondent for the BBC Radio and Television networks and author of the syndicated column The Mo'Kelly Report. For more Mo'Kelly, go to his site. Mo'Kelly can be reached at mrmokelly@gmail.com and welcomes all commentary.

 

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12:21 AM on 10/07/2011
RICK PERRY WONT GET ELECTED SIMPLY FOR THE FACT HE HAS SAID THE FIRST THING HE is gonna do as president should he get elected is to completely do away with social security..thereby sendingt thousands of innocent elderly citizens and those who are disabled straight into the welfare system
05:30 PM on 09/24/2011
Its very sad to read the comments of this cheerleader for the notion that the most important thing (indeed the ONLY important thing) is to be able to say your part "won" the election. Obama governs like a Republican...a moderate one, but a Republican none the less. His supporters wanted RESULTS. If anyone needs to study and heed history it is our President. Obama needs to learn the lessons of the Carter/Kennedy example and change course to satisfy the supporters he needs to win the election. Otherwise he deserves to lose. No politician is ENTITLED to the loyalty of their base. They have to EARN it.
10:51 AM on 09/25/2011
Excellent!
12:24 AM on 10/07/2011
THIS NATION NEEDS TO STAND BEHIND OUR PRESIDENT whether they voted for him or not because like it or not until he someone defeats him and does what is right for this country He is still our president and I Am dang sick and tired of everyone bitching griping and moaning about the shape this country is in and blaming ONE Barack Hussein Obama for the mess that egotistical egomaniacal self loathing self aggranding jerkaholic GEORGE WALKER BUSH LEFT THIS COUNTRY IN....
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
04:00 AM on 09/22/2011
"But repeating the "Ted Kennedy" mistakes of 1979 only ensures that either Rick Perry or Mitt Romney easily waltzes into the Oval Office in a landslide manner." This is typical pundit pablum. There were many reasons that caused the defeat of Carter. There also were many reasons people turned to Reagan. I don't think anyone can prove that if Ted Kennedy hadn't challenged Carter he would have won. This is just silly, absolutely predictable pundit writing. History doesn't always repeat itself, especially when the conditions on the ground are completely different. For one thing, Reagan was highly respected. The current candidates the Republicans have on parade are clowns that escaped from a bad circus show. I believe any candidate who challenges Obama by promising to accept only public financing and totally rejecting Corporate Money and Secret Money wins both the nomination and the Presidency. Of course that's assuming the candidate doesn't pull an Obama and back off on Public Financing. Accepting Big money can be made poison. The public hates it and the public is not fond of very many incumbents these days. Why stick with Bush III?
12:29 PM on 09/21/2011
As somebody said, and I wholly agree, vote Obama or elect a Republican by default. If you vote for a different liberal candidate other than Obama, you've secured Romney or Perry the Presidency. If you DON'T vote at all, you've secured a Romney or Perry the Presidency. That's just the reality.

Progressives need to bite the bullet and set their sights on 2016 and back Obama for 2012 instead of sabotaging any chances we may have because, trust, we wouldn't have a lot of the accomplishments we attained thus far (health care reform, banking reform, gov't funding that absorbed a lot of the immediate chaos from this recession, etc.) By giving this election to the GOP on a silver platter, we'd be forfeiting what little progress we've made and giving up important opportunities like future supreme court nominations and building on our small victories.

Obama 2012 or bust.
01:26 AM on 09/23/2011
no.. obama is going to bomb as a president.. if you re elect him.. then u will have another 8-15 years of republican presidents to follow.. it will take a long long time to forget the absolute betrayal of the party's leadership to the democratic and progressive party.. it is better to lose one now.. go ahead and get another lunitic.. then 4 years from now.. even the dimest bulbs will see how corrupt the republican platform is.. and how valuable the democratic one was. For this to happen tho.. OBAMA MUST GO.. and i DID vote for him last time. WOW was THAT a mistake.. i feel like i reelected bush.. who's agenda obama has simply continued and expanded.
01:40 PM on 09/23/2011
By dropping Obama, you essentially want progressives to throw our country into deeper chaos just to prove your point that Dems are a better option than Republicans for future elections? That is totally illogical and heartless...purely political w/o regard for our current situation. Yeah, Obama didn't save the country, but he stabilized it. That may not seem like an achievement to some, but it's a victory for most that Obama could at least stop our economic bleeding. We're no where Clinton-era prosperity, but we're no longer in a Bush-era economic freefall and that means something.

To be clear, Obama can not do this alone. Although they missed the mark on some things, the Congress of 2008-2010 was superb and accomplished a lot. However, progressives did not turn out in 2010, and we lost a lot of our steam by losing the House majority. So, it's not just Obama...he needs a strong, liberal Congress, too. Therefore, instead of moaning about how Obama failed you, everyone needs to focus on preserving the recovery/progress we made (cuz you know if the next Pres is GOP, he will dismantle all of it throwing us further backwards) and building a liberal Congressional stronghold that will fight for what's right & needed even when the President plays to the center.
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05:06 PM on 09/20/2011
I rest my case...Ralph Nader and Dr. Cornel West announce plan to create a primary challenge against President Obama...

http://www.singlepayeraction.org/blog/?p=3032

Goodnight and good luck...
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
04:12 AM on 09/22/2011
But repeating the "Ted Kennedy" mistakes of 1979 only ensures that either Rick Perry or Mitt Romney easily waltzes into the Oval Office in a landslide manner.
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
06:31 AM on 09/22/2011
Excellent news. Since I will never vote for the lesser of two evils ever again, I look forward to having such an excellent option. I refuse to even consider a criminal President who has put at least three American Citizens on a CIA hit list with no proof of any crime being committed. It seems like just yesterday Obama was promising to restore Rule of Law and Habeas Corpus. That is only one of many ways he has followed closely in the footsteps of George W Bush. It seems Wall Street was wise to give Obama more than twice as much campaign money in 2008 as they gave John McCain. They certainly found a great protector who kept their banker friends out of jail and in the money. True he recently failed in his attempt to bully the state attorney generals into accepting chump change in their lawsuits against the bankers for their use of robo-signers and falsified documents in foreclosed on real estate deals. Say, why wasn't he on the side of the foreclosed on people? Oh yeah, he doesn't answer to Main Street does he? I'm sure Wall Street will be very generous to him in 2012. I'm sure they would love to have a lame duck President in their debt when it comes time to name another Supreme Court Justice. I guess that means it doesn't make much difference who wins if it's Obama or a Republican, Wall Street wins.
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
05:21 AM on 09/24/2011
Perhaps I should elucidate on my mention of Obama's failure to bully the states attorney generals and particulary New York's, in the floreclosure lawsuit. From Glen Greenwald in Salon 9/22/11. "In mid-May, I wrote about the commendable -- one might say heroic -- efforts of New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman to single-handedly impose meaningful accountability on Wall Street banks for their role in the 2008 financial crisis and the mortgage fraud/foreclosure schemes. Not only was Schneiderman launching probing investigations at a time when the Obama DOJ was steadfastly failing to do so, but -- more importantly -- he was refusing to sign onto a global settlement agreement being pushed by the DOJ that would have insulated the mortgage banks (including Bank of America, Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo) from all criminal investigations in exchange for some relatively modest civil fines. In response, many commenters wondered whether Schneiderman, if he persisted, would be targeted by the banks with some type of campaign of destruction of the kind that brought down Eliot Spitzer, but fortunately for the banks, they can dispatch their owned servants in Washington to apply the pressure for them:" That's what I was getting at. At this time most of the attorney generals have resisted Obama's Commerce and Justice pressure and decided to back up the New York attorney general. The fur will likely fly.
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Charles Gray
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04:55 PM on 09/20/2011
You had me going all the way until the end. It must be some kind of typo. Didn't you mean 2012 is for the Republicans to lose?
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05:45 PM on 09/20/2011
No, you read it right. An incumbent historically has always stood a better chance than an unknown. Most recently proven when Bush was re-elected in 2004 when it was widely speculated/assumed he would lose due to the war in Iraq.
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JBS
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04:53 PM on 09/20/2011
While I fault Obama for his failure to deliver on campaign promises, I don't think current Congressional Democrats have anyone but themselves to blame for the mess. He couldn't do "hope and change" all by himself, and it's abundantly clear to me that Congressional Democrats didn't support him, much less hold his feet to the fire on Democratic ideals & principles.
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ledzepfan
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03:01 PM on 09/20/2011
Thank you Mr. O'Kelly. I've been trying to explain this to my unhappy Democratic friends for months! Those who don't remember history are surely doomed to repeat it.
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02:58 PM on 09/20/2011
Hillary won't run, I will take her word and Bill's over cheney and the other right wingers
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Charles Gray
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04:58 PM on 09/20/2011
Well now Artanis, if your going to take the word of that crowd you better consult them first. Find out what the definition of "is" is before you lay your money down.
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merlin57
Hey hey my my...out of the blue and into the black
02:52 PM on 09/20/2011
I am actually old enough to have participated in that primary... I campaigned for Kennedy. The fact of the matter at the time was that Carter had lost the confidence of the people by comming across as weak and ineffective. He was perceived as not being able to carry out his agenda.

Obama has come across similarly much to the discontent of those of us who voted for him. I want my leaders to be strong... compromise where necessary but not capitulate at every turn with the oppostion. That is not leadership or governance. It is simply talk and no walk.

Myself.... I am of the opinion that if Obama can stick to the populist groove he rolled out yesterday, he will not invite a primary challenge. However, if he demonstrates more craven capitulation on the jobs, ss, medicare and tax issues that are important to the democratic base, then he may certainly invite someone with more gumption to decide to challenge him. I frankly don't see that as a bad thing.... either prove you have the fortitude to carry out your agenda or become a footnote in history as a 1 term president.
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03:27 PM on 09/20/2011
Merlin, then I guess the question would be whether you are willing to accept the alternative. If President Obama is a one-term president, it doesn't mean you will get the Democratic primary challenger instead. It means you likely end up with Rick Perry.

It's about weighing all of the alternatives and seeing them through to their logical conclusion. While I agree with you in regards to the shortcomings of President Obama, I'm not so sure I agree with you that a primary challenger will bring about the desired result ultimately you envision.
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merlin57
Hey hey my my...out of the blue and into the black
04:50 PM on 09/20/2011
Hi Morris....
I don't necessarily agree that the republican automatically becomes the victor and I guess I could have been more clear on that point with my initial post.

I was a kid in my 3rd year of college when Kennedy mounted his challenge so I did not have a good appreciation for the baggage that he carried and how it would affect him nationally. Carter ran a fairly rutheless campaign against him and the dirt was thrown around pretty good. In the end, I think folks perceived Kennedy as morally flawed and his support only went so far after that. In the general election, people then saw Carter as weak and ineffective which caused the sea change turn to Reagan. Heck, up until that point, my parents were democrats but the voted for Reagan because Carter told them they had to much.

Today.... I do not see potential challengers to Obama as having the same amount or type of baggage as Kennedy did when he challeneged Carter. This is not to say that for example, Hillary is a shoe-in as she has her share of baggage. I just don't believe that it is the morally flawed baggage such as Kennedy had and that she could position an argument of effectiveness and leadership that would help her in a national election. That in my opinion is what makes for a different possible outcome over what you are proposing.
YOKEL13
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04:54 PM on 09/20/2011
I think that "craven" is one word that does not apply to Mr. Obama. He's made mistakes and, to his great credit, he learns from his mistakes. Faced with Republican intransigence, he has too often had to choose the lesser of two evils. I give him a great deal of credit for being willing to make decisions he deems necessary and expedient even in the face of progressive disapproval.

A couple of decisions I view as mistakes are not getting an agreement to raise the debt ceiling as part of the tax-cut extension deal, not consulting with Congress (as far as I know) before engaging in the Libya NATO operation, and getting involved in the Solyndra solar panel fiasco.

It is unfortunate that the Republican propaganda machine is so effective that it causes many to lose sight of Mr. Obama's many accomplishments (which you can easily find listed elsewhere).

It is in the nature of things to be disappointed in a political candidate, because most interest groups concern themselves with a small subset of the total array of issues with which a President must deal.

I will vote for Mr. Obama in 2012 because I like him and the job he is doing, despite his missteps, and because the alternative is awful to contemplate.
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04:08 PM on 09/25/2011
Just more of your famous snark. Kinda funny, but not really.
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GoDems2012
YOU are the change!
02:34 PM on 09/20/2011
You would end up fracturing a coalition of minorities, labor, liberals and middle class voters to prove what exactly? I agree. It's not going to happen. Because the Clintons are far too astute.
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02:25 PM on 09/20/2011
There is no point to this post, it is not going to happen
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02:35 PM on 09/20/2011
What is not going to happen...a Democratic challenger or Hillary specifically? And how are you so sure?
YOKEL13
Gimme more! - unofficial GOP motto
02:05 PM on 09/20/2011
Important points. President Obama, taking office in the face of economic disaster, has done a creditable job in the face of Republican intransigence. Mr. Obama has made mistakes, but he will learn from them. His reelection is preferable to any plausible alternative.... by a landslide.

As for Hillary Clinton, I'd like to see her on the 2012 ticket.... in the VP slot.
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Charles Gray
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05:03 PM on 09/20/2011
Correction - the Big-O IS the face of economic disaster!. As Darth Vader said: "All too easy"
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DocturT
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01:58 PM on 09/20/2011
Vote for Obama or elect a Republican. It's that simple.
02:19 PM on 09/20/2011
I will take the Republican.
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ledzepfan
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03:07 PM on 09/20/2011
Well of course, that is your right as a voter, and I respect that. But unless you're a millionaire, what have the Republicans done for you?
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Charles Gray
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05:05 PM on 09/20/2011
Simple?...yes...simple indeed!
01:34 PM on 09/20/2011
The term "Reagan Democrats" was given to the tangible and palpable disaffected and ultimately defected Democratic voters.
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But these disaffected Democrats represented a trend already underway of the crumbling of the Solid South, which Carter had reversed being a Southern man.

Examine loss of South to Republicans in Presidential election (see link) for confirmation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South

States Carter held 76, lost to Reagan 80:

Alabama, Arkansas,Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia

Which of these states won by Nixon 72? All but Maryland.

Your sentiment may be right. Your prediction may be right. But your historical precedent? Not so great, is it? It wasn't Kennedy or Khomeini that did for Carter. It was rightist, good ole Christian whites drifting rightwards after a little flirtation with one of their own.
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03:34 PM on 09/20/2011
I did indicate in the piece that Americans were upset with Carter for all sorts of things, from the gas crisis (OPEC) to the Iran hostages.

I'm not sure that Carter started the crumbling of the "Solid South" for the reasons that the passage of the Civil Rights Act under LBJ basically gave away the South to Republicans for the next 40 years, something LBJ even predicted.

Also, Reagan specifically campaigned on a states' rights/Southern Strategy. Meaning, Reagan specifically went after the South in ways beyond just having to do with the disappointment with Jimmy Carter, who happened to be a southern governor. There are respectfully more variables to the southern equation than just Jimmy Carter. Christian whites hadn't "drifted" right. They were already there.

Carter had the fortune of facing Gerald Ford, someone the country hadn't elected in 1976. A member of a disgraced previous administration. Let's be honest in the review of the popularity of Carter and why...
05:40 PM on 09/20/2011
I'm not sure that Carter started the crumbling of the "Solid South"
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I did not say that. I merely pointed out he won by winning back above-listed States that Nixon had won. He then lost them to Reagan as Solid South reverted to its rightward drift only temporarily halted because they had one of their own (or so they thought) to vote for.
05:48 PM on 09/24/2011
Your original article completely ignored the employment of the Southern strategy...which Reagan implemented with legendary effect. Carter's 1976 election was an anomaly caused by the downfall of Nixon and fumbling of Ford. Reagan recaptured the Presidency because he effectively appealed to disaffected white voters in the south. They gave him an electoral victory in line with conservative voting trends of the time. If you remove that dynamic (or the Iran Hostage Crisis and Reagan's behind the scenes manipulation of the timing of the hostages' return) it is far from certain that your claim that Kennedy cost Carter a second term would hold up.