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Divorce #2: The Shame Of It

Posted: 10/10/11 08:35 PM ET

I realized my second marriage was in trouble sometime after our fifth anniversary. My nature being what it is, I took all the proactive steps I could think of to save that marriage. The very idea of divorce was an anathema to me. Besides, I still loved him as much as I had the day we married despite the problems. I worked at it for five years, but in the end realized it would take two of us to save the marriage. Not only didn't he think he had a problem, he didn't mind the endless fights, sleeping in separate beds, or the distress we were causing our kids. Saying the words, "I want a divorce" broke my heart. It took years to mend.

The most difficult thing for me to overcome was the shame. I thought I was a failure. I wasn't a healthy woman, or this wouldn't have happened. I must be faulty, or I could have made it work. I knew I had tried as hard as a person could try, and changed aspects of my own behaviors that needed work, but...ah, there's that word, but. My head knew I wasn't a failure; my heart was a different matter. I dreaded going out lest someone ask me how my husband was, or even where he was. What would they think when I said he was moving, that we were getting a divorce? How could I explain, when I felt so ashamed of my own failure?

I took long walks and screamed in the woods. I continued to attend meetings, and talked about how I felt. I spent time with each of my daughters, who seemed relieved we were no longer living together, though one of them suggested I had a faulty picker, which certainly did not alleviate my feelings of failure. I didn't know what frightened me more: the person I might choose next, or the idea that no one would want me when they learned I had been divorced twice already. When I finally went on a date with the father of a young friend, I asked if he had ever married again and he replied, "Four times!" I wanted to jump off his boat. After that date I wondered if I should say I had been divorced once if asked. Eventually I could tell the truth, but no, that wouldn't work for me. My face would not believe what I was saying. Besides, that was obviously not the way to begin a new relationship. For years I chose not to date, which seemed easier.

Eventually I did meet someone else. He, too, was divorced. We were older, and neither felt any need to marry again. But it wasn't until I was talking with an older woman friend who had attended my workshop that I finally was able to let go of my shame about those divorces. She was talking about her marriage of fifty years, and how many compromises she had made, some of them huge and not in her own best interest. On balance, she believed her marriage had been a good one, and also felt that she had lost a lot of herself within it. She wondered aloud if it would have been better to divorce. I had lost myself as well, she agreed, and had taken years to get "me" back after each divorce, but who was to say which was the better choice? "But you didn't fail," I stammered in response. "Why do we see divorce as a failure, especially when so many marriages are lifeless," she asked in return. "I guess in my heart I believe what society tells me," I replied. That surprised her. "Why?" she asked, continuing, "Isn't it just a matter of choice? And who knows until way after the fact, whether it was the right one?" Those words freed me.

I knew the answer. When I left my first marriage I was numb because I believed my husband would disapprove of what I felt about most things. Feeling came back very slowly. Who would I have become had I stayed? I would much rather be alive and divorced then married and dead. To stay in the second marriage I would have had to live with daily rage and discontent, clearly not a healthy option. To stay married or to divorce is a matter of choice. Because of this wise woman, I finally found acceptance for both of mine.

 

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01:03 AM on 10/24/2011
Nancy, what a wonderfully well-written article. It seems that a number of your detractors here believe in the old lie about women not wanting to compromise, and just wanting to "find themselves". Neither was true for me - I did everything right, was exhausted supermom, wore holey underwear so that I could spend my meagre quarter salary to his on our children. In the end, all my sacrifice didn't stop him from deciding to beat our children. As our social worker said, "If you did everything right, and you still failed, maybe it wasn't you." He is just too damaged, and he was slowly killing us with his rage. We haven't failed. We WERE failed. hugs to you.
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Nancy Alvarez
02:41 PM on 10/24/2011
Sandy,

Thanks to you for this. It always amazes me when one partner does all this work - what you describe is what work means to me! - finally leaves, and then is blamed for leaving! It seems the only healthy thing to do, for me. When I finally left my second husband, I knew I had tried everything I could try, from 12-step programs, to therapy, to altering some of my own dysfunctional behaviors, so that when I did leave, I didn't regret it. Sounds like you have come to the same place. Bravo to you to.
12:17 PM on 10/19/2011
I can't believe the negative comments. My first husband cheated over and over. We did counseling, he cheated again. No, I didn't have a clue he would do that before we married. We dated several years and I didn't get any hints he would do that. Then I met husband #2. He was charming, funny, loving, etc. Before we married, there were clues that he was controlling and abusive. I don't know why I didn't break it off. I don't like hurting other people, even if they are hurting me. If you've never been in an abusive relationship, don't judge those that have. It's easy for people to say, "why does she stay when he treats her that way?' 5 years after we married, I couldn't take it any longer, the name calling, weeks of silent treatment, yelling and screaming when I didn't comply to what he wanted. I decided to leave. He begged me to stay, said he would go to counseling. We did individual counseling, couples counseling. It worked for awhile. Then it started again. Weeks of silent treatment. Telling me what a horrible person I was. I wanted to leave, but didn't know how financially. Forward to January this year, he got drunk, was mad at me, shot a gun in the house. He was removed by the police. He begged me not to leave, he started counseling, going to church.
Unfortunately there are many out there, men and women, who are afraid to leave.
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Nancy Alvarez
02:44 PM on 10/24/2011
Have you this time? Abuse of any kind is unacceptable. Even in 12-step meetings, that's the one time members can and should be directive, or that's what I was taught in huge LA meetings. Staying isn't better for us or our kids; being proactive is really important. Take care of yourself, please.
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Nancy Alvarez
02:46 PM on 10/24/2011
Take care of yourself, please. That is really important. Abuse is never acceptable, and we don't have to stay for it.
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05:18 PM on 10/17/2011
Thank you Nancy. That was very enlightening.
strangiato
Ha Ha...Charade You Are
12:19 PM on 10/13/2011
Usually by the 5th or 6th "marriage", most (unfortunately and amazingly, not all) people begin to SERIOUSLY question whether or not something about them or something that they are doing is contributing to the carnage left in their wake. Simply putting the words "shame" or "guilt" in the title of a blog or story doesn't absolve us of the responsibility for truly finding the answers to repeated failure. I looked carefully to find evidence of a sincere and heartfelt search on the part of the author for answers. And as is typical of these stories, we only get half or less than half of the picture. When the specter of alcoholism or abuse is raised in subsequent comments, it raises flags. If alcoholism or abuse were central to the collapse of the marriage - they should have been central to the author's discussion in the first place. Regardless, I'm glad the author "found herself" or more likely, found that she could define herself outside the confines of marriage. Hopefully, no more carnage and bloat of our legal system will be forthcoming.
02:07 PM on 10/15/2011
5th or 6th marriage!! That's heading toward Guiness world record territory.
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11:50 AM on 10/13/2011
I sometimes think that people are really confused about what love is. It's an action and not a "state of being" noun. Why are we willing to love some people and not others ? Doesn't love require some degree of compromise and giving of one's self ?

I've been very fortunate to have been married to the same woman for 34 years. She is still the best thing that ever happened to me. Moreover, she has made me a better person. Not intentional, but just by being together.

I hope others can find the right person to love and be loved by.
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Nancy Alvarez
10:54 AM on 10/14/2011
I don't know why we love some people and not others. And I do believe long-term commitment requires compromise, as well as give and take. I applaud the success you and your wife have had, as I applaud the woman in my workshop who was married for 55 years before her husband passed away. What a fulfilling and rewarding experience.
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Terence Manuel
Confine yourself to the present.
09:24 AM on 10/12/2011
Divorce is the result of a failed marriage. As I am not a marriage expert, I do not know the leading causes of these failures. I have some experience and thoughts.
However, I do know this: nothing that has a success rate of a mere 50% can be deemed a viable thing. Nothing.
So, I beg the question: Is marriage simply a failed institution? Has marriage become obsolete? I do not know the answer. Since people make up marriages, perhaps these are the union of failed and broken people. Don't know.
Clearly, something is awry.
strangiato
Ha Ha...Charade You Are
09:52 AM on 10/12/2011
I think you've hit on the deeper question/answer - unrestrained capitalism, greed, and "consumerism" is tearing apart the moral fabric of a society and rearing its head in the manifestations of divorce and disintegration of the family unit. As the nation's morality continues to descend to Hades, there will be more single parents which will re enforce the me, me, me mentality. No one talks about the warping effect of single parent families and undermining of grandparents influence. Children don't benefit from one guiding voice (possibly dictator) versus two. Like government, parental dictatorships have no checks and balances. There is no moderating influence from another parent or grandparent. If the single parent is warped - that warping will be projected on children. This is a grand experiment we are embarking on - me me me me me me me me me me me me......and like global warming, the indicators aren't entirely clear as to where it's taking us but it's not looking good.
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Nancy Alvarez
04:22 PM on 10/12/2011
I don't know the answer either. I know I learned much about myself through both divorces, and now in a much healthier relationship of 7 years because I got to put to use what I learned about my own behaviors. Most of us want connection, but have lots of problems maintaining. Hopefully we learn as we go, and our kids learn from us, and from their own efforts. No one teaches us how to do any of this long term, so it is hit and miss, unfortunately.
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Ha Ha...Charade You Are
01:17 PM on 10/13/2011
No need to be too pious about it. These blogs aren't supposed to be a crucifixion as much as a search for answers and a better way for ourselves and our children. More than likely, both you and your spouses contributed to the "failures" or "degree of perceived failures". While your acknowledgment is refreshing, details are always more helpful. I know in my marriage's failure that I contributed to some extent by knowingly marrying a girl with Peter Pan and Good Time Charlie tendencies. My youth, inexperience with regard to how painful being cheated on with children can be, strong mental and sexual attraction to a pretty social butterfly who was a bedroom tigress - all these things contributed to my errant choice in a mate. Could I stand here now and blame it all on a no good cheating girl? Yes, but that would ignore the fact that her "live for today" spirit came from her losing both parents at the age of 13. Things happen for a reason. We need to be honest with ourselves if we truly want to learn from the mistakes.
strangiato
Ha Ha...Charade You Are
09:57 PM on 10/11/2011
Like the popular car commercial, it seems that "the relentless pursuit of perfection" is the typical approach to marriage these days. "I lost myself", "I took all the proactive steps I could to save the marriage" (yeah right - I didn't see any list beyond things like "yelling into the woods", "I'd rather be divorced and alive than married and dead" - all garbage. Do people ever stop to hear themselves whine? Do they ever stop to look around at others who struggle day to day to feed themselves or their children? Do they ever stop to consider what it's like to care for and live with a terminally ill child? Do they ever stop to consider what it's like to live with a terrible disfiguring, and utterly painful debilitating disease? I've seen these things, up close and personal. And I have very, very little sympathy for these whiners and their "guilt trips" over dumping a spouse to "find themselves". Get over yourself honey. Sooner or later, you will be forced to come face to face with your own mortality and you won't have anyone to blame for your plight. You'll actually have to muster some gumption, endure it, and deal with it. Good luck.
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Terence Manuel
Confine yourself to the present.
09:15 AM on 10/12/2011
Talk about telling it like it is!
Sometimes I think we Americans have just gone bunkers. This endless and nonsensical pursuit perfection. This relentless quest to "find me."
This is what I say to people every day: "put matters in proper perspective. Things could always be worse!" I saw a gentleman yesterday with an oxygen tank and walker. He has suffered several heart attacks. Boy, I am truly blessed.
I too am so sick and tired of all the whining and complaining. We all have our "demons" so to speak. But we have to keep going.
Life is what you make it. Be grateful for what you have. Gratitude is the key. Learn to be humble and grateful.
Keep life simple. Smile. Enjoy the simple pleasures. Because after all, Life Is Good!
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Nancy Alvarez
04:25 PM on 10/12/2011
I agree. And am grateful for my life as it is, for my partner of seven years, for all I have learned. Unfortunately, I have learned most from my own mistakes. Life is both wonderful and difficult; we are sometimes joyous, sometimes angry, sometimes ashamed, sometimes grateful. We need to honor the full range, and learn how to deal with them.
yappnmutt
humping legs for liberty
09:27 PM on 10/11/2011
you women are indecipherable. if you would just think like a man you would not be having these problems..... of course, that wouldn't be much fun for us men. in other words, learn to appreciate who you are with and only leave if you don't get it in return. that doesn't mean the mechanical side of living, working, cleaning and other chores although it is part of it. i mean appreciate the person with all their positive and negative attributes because you have them,too. it makes life much more easier than fighting with them and yourself.
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Nancy Alvarez
04:28 PM on 10/12/2011
Yup. And if you don't have reciprocity, you leave. Can't make someone meet you half way, or even part way. Marriages hit rocky parts, and then both partners need to work it out. I've learned to do just that, as has the man I have been with for quite some time. Better than not learning, for sure!
02:11 PM on 10/15/2011
That's rich. I don't think "thinking like a man" worked for my dad or would work for my brother who is currently experience some sort of marital disharmony. Neither of them know how to treat a woman in a relationship right - they are often bossy, controlling, unkind, and inconsiderate.
07:42 PM on 10/11/2011
A timely thought for this single mom, twice divorced: the lifeless marriage is not a better choice. I am doing the self work to improve my "picker", but remain a tad obsessed with married people, especially the 80-90 percent who seem lifeless. The soccer mom sideline is a great sociological observation point. I weekly ask myself if I would want to be any of those couples? The answer is usually no. I'd like some division of labor, stability and a best friend for life, but I'll pass on the rest for now.
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Nancy Alvarez
04:29 PM on 10/12/2011
It's really tough to decide what to do when you're not really happy. Working on it with your husband seems a good start, if he's willing. Marriage counselors can be a big help.
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05:36 PM on 10/11/2011
Unfortunately it seems you have not changed yourself or your thinking, but rather rationalized your past actions in light of your current "feelings". This is not a positive progression. Our actions should not be based on feelings but rather what is truly RIGHT, regardless of whether those actions mean happiness or unhappiness. Washing the floor, cleaning the garage, returning found money, speaking the truth, loving our partner, helping those in need, are "right" actions and should not depend on our feelings. These actions will bring overall peace but only accidental happiness. Either way I wish Good Luck to you. There is a reason second marriage has a 70% divorce rate.
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Nancy Alvarez
04:31 PM on 10/12/2011
Many reasons. And part of doing what's right, especially in love, does have to do with feelings. Ignoring them can get us into a world of hurt. And I do agree with you about all those other 'right' actions, but I also know I can trust my intuition and feelings, and should have more often.
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04:38 PM on 10/11/2011
"Not only didn't he think he had a problem" perhaps that is the problem. What one person considers normal, healthy, interesting, etc, another person might not. In addition, opinions, beliefs and attitudes can change over the years. So if your partner is engaging in something that you disapprove of, I would suggest the first question to ask is: Is this something new, or is it something they have been doing all along and it is only now that you have decided that you disapprove of it? Second question: Is what your spouse doing so repugnent to you that you can't stand it? Third question: Have you asked your spouse to change their behavior, given them a good explanation as to why you feel you can't accept their behavior, AND listened to their response and really considered it? Fourth: Is it really worth changing your life and your spouses life over these differences?

People change over the course of a marriage, humans are not static like rocks. One or the other or both have changed. Today, I believe too many people have accepted the philosophy of "it's my way or the highway." Life is full of compromises, marriage is a subset of life, so perhaps we should be willing to consider compromises in our marriages. No two people are going to be EXACTLY alike, so why do we expect that of our spouses?
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Nancy Alvarez
04:34 PM on 10/12/2011
There was a substance problem in my second marriage. I got lots of help, but in the end couldn't live with the behavior that went with the drinking - rage, passing out, maudlin stuff - so I left. I still felt shame even though I knew there was nothing I could do about his drinking or the behavior unless he admitted it was causing problems in our marriage. He wouldn't, so I left.
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momstudent
08:27 PM on 10/12/2011
Sounds familiar and am stunned with the majority of responses. I am sorry you needed to inform everyone on this thread regarding your ex-spouses abuse addictions. I consider your divorce brave because you took responsibility for your safety, your children's safety and long term mental and emotional health.
02:12 PM on 10/15/2011
Did you know about this before you married your second husband? If so, why did you marry him?
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momstudent
03:31 PM on 10/11/2011
Very moving and honest there does appear to be some type of shame attached to a second divorce. I believe it comes from both within and society. It is better to have tried than not regardless of the outcome. Both of my brothers have never married, yes, they are straight and no children. There is something kind of sad when I think how they both ended long term relationships without marriage.
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Nancy Alvarez
04:36 PM on 10/12/2011
Thanks. An ending of a marriage or any long-term relationship is very very sad. And painful and confusing. In the end, if we work at it, we learn about our part, and are able to move on to a more healthy relationship.
01:08 PM on 10/11/2011
I'd like to hear your husband's side of the story.
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Nancy Alvarez
04:35 PM on 10/12/2011
So would I! Would that he had been willing to talk about it with a counselor or with me....
11:19 AM on 10/11/2011
I get confused when I hear someone say they lost part of their "self" when they got married. I thought that was a fundamental principle of marriage.
12:07 PM on 10/11/2011
Agreed. And then it begs the next question...whose fault was that? I tried to encourage my ex-wife to partake in some activities I enjoyed because she didn't seem to have much she was passionate about. She seemed to enjoy them and we sometimes did them together (golf, raquetball, etc.) She then came back 20 years later and said she lost herself, didn't know who she was, and it was my fault.

Often I find that statement is simply an excuse to leave someone (not talking about the author).
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Nancy Alvarez
04:39 PM on 10/12/2011
Very well said. I didn't think losing myself was anyone's fault but my own, and possibly society's, because I learned at a very early age to put everyone else first. That's a prescription for losing self, I think. I didn't know I was doing it, because it 'came naturally.' But I did learn afterwards, and no longer do those behaviors. It's been hard work to hold my own, and know what that is, but very worth doing!
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Nancy Alvarez
12:16 PM on 10/11/2011
It is a very odd, and disturbing experience. When I hid what I thought, and finally, what I felt, from my first husband, eventually I couldn't connect with either of those things. It was disconcerting, to say the least. I felt numb. It took about three years for the full range of feelings to come back.
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Edogg62
02:37 PM on 10/11/2011
So in essence, some of us make CHOICES to "hide" our thoughts/feelings/needs etc. At THAT point the other party hasn't been given the opportunity to rectify the situation or even attempt to. Not terribly fair OR mature. The mind-reading marriages that go awry... I've seen it too many times. People seem to live in fear of direct, heart-felt communication and they then proceed to build their own little court case in their minds that serves to justify their actions to friends, family and self. "Well, I TRIED..." I guess it's all about exonerating your self for your actions.
10:09 AM on 10/11/2011
good article...now if we could just fix your 'picker'...just kidding. I think most of us could use help fixing that.
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Nancy Alvarez
12:16 PM on 10/11/2011
All the 'work' I did seems to have fixed my picker. I've been in a wonderful, caring, sharing relationship for almost seven years. And thanks for caring.