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Republican Truth Vs. Campaign Promise

Posted: 10/10/2012 10:09 pm

A 2012 GOP plank reads "We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life..." This came out about the same time that my church held a Fortnight for Religious Freedom, to encourage the faithful to fight for religious freedom. This pledge sounded very familiar to me. It turns out that the "battle" appears to be over abortion (Roe v. Wade), with contraception and same sex marriage a close second, and it can be won by voting Republican in the upcoming election. Wow! I decided to use this IPad, an amazing invention I got for my 77th B-Day, to get a little past history on this frequently addressed, never resolved issue:

Back in 1973, the abortion issue of Roe v. Wade and its constitutionality was brought before the Supreme Court. The Court, after much complex study and discussion, ruled that Roe v. Wade was the law of the land.

This was the result of a majority decision of seven to two. Five of those majority member votes were made by justices who had been appointed by a Republican president. Roe v. Wade was solidly in.

During the 39 years and millions of abortions since that time, our electorate has given us 20 years of Republican presidents. In not one of those 20 years has a Republican president ever expressed responsibility for giving America Roe v. Wade, but many have used the law in campaign pledges to overturn it -- campaign pledges which then quietly fade away after election day. One of their best opportunities to carry through on those forgotten pledges was with a Republican president who served for eight consecutive years, during at least six of which he had the power of a Republican majority in both the Senate and House. Did he and his Republican Congresses make good on their promise? Well, no! He did find the time to give us two wars, but must not have had enough time to get around to abortion and those "traditional family values!"

Fool you once, shame on them... fool you again and again and again, shame on you!!!!!

 
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Tcolby6
05:44 AM on 10/12/2012
If anyone thinks that by overturning Roe that abortions will magically end, they are kidding themselves. Abortions will still go on. For thr rich they will be called appendectomys for the poor it will be a dirty coat hanger in a back alley. If the right really cared about life they would forget about Roe and start getting involved in the lives of women who may get an abortion. Be willing to adopt these kids that would otherwise be aborted. Be willing to take teen girls in who have been kicked out of their house because they ar pregnant. Help young girls who give birth instead of aborting, financely and being there for them to help them raise the child. But instead of truly doing something to reduce the number of abortions it is far easier to rant about Roe so we can stand firm in our self righteousness.
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JLSR
Fan of fairness and logic
10:03 PM on 10/11/2012
The problem will rest on the simple fact that with a Romney Presidency, Romney could, possibly choose up to three, new Supreme Court Justices. THAT choice, alone, would allow--even if it were only one Justice--to push the SCOTUS over to the "dark side," which would easily allow for an overturning of Roe v. Wade. And think of all the other damage, a full majority, Rightwing SCOTUS, could do. This is the most important factor in womens' freedoms being reversed, taking us back 50 years.
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Enderby Land
Objects in mirror are cleaner than they appear
11:52 AM on 10/11/2012
Republicans use "wedge" issues, and then accuse obama of "dividing the nation."

Mirror-challenged low-lifes.
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Enderby Land
Objects in mirror are cleaner than they appear
11:51 AM on 10/11/2012
It takes time to corrupt a Supreme Court.

They're one judge away from doing away with it ALL.
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somepeoplecallmethestig
The road goes on forever, and the party never ends
01:22 PM on 10/11/2012
Do you understand that if Roe is overturned it would not outlaw abortion?
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Enderby Land
Objects in mirror are cleaner than they appear
01:46 PM on 10/11/2012
Do you understand that it would clear the way for a LOT of eager states?  And it doesn't stop a FEDERAL ban, either.
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JudgeCCrater
From under a NJ boardwalk thanks to free Wi-Fi!
11:34 AM on 10/11/2012
R's have no shame. Merely desperation as they cling to their crappy candidate who no more represents their interests than a bull looks like a banjo.
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somepeoplecallmethestig
The road goes on forever, and the party never ends
11:03 AM on 10/11/2012
The only way to overturn it is from the SC.

Oh and if one day Roe was overturned it would not make abortion illegal.
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Earl King
I intend to live forever, or die trying
10:10 AM on 10/11/2012
Here is what is going to happen to Abortion. Sometime in the near future the SCOTUS will have to decide when life begins. Currently, when we end life deliberately with people on life support; we define death as "lack of brain activity" before we pull the plug. SCOTUS will define life in the same manor. When does a fetus have brain activity? Current thinking is that around 12 weeks the Central Nervous System becomes active. Prior to this...we are only talking about the potential for life...not "actual" life. Under that definition, if you are a catholic, the Pope would go so far as to describe sperm as human life. Scientifically it doesn't hold water. I believe abortion will remain legal but not after 12 weeks. Is 3 mos enough time to decide to have an abortion? Hopefully. There will also be exceptions for life of mother after 12 weeks....but not for deformities unless those deformities will be so horrific they would have a negative impact on quality of life. Anyway...in my humble opinion this is where we will end up. Could a Constitutional Amendment pass? Doubtful. Will many still view any fertilized egg as life? Probably. My definition however is logical and scientific. For some however, with strong religious views it will never be over...but for some women, the right to an abortion in early pregnancy will be available.
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JudgeCCrater
From under a NJ boardwalk thanks to free Wi-Fi!
11:36 AM on 10/11/2012
I'm thinking that a majority of justices on the SCOTUS are far too intelligent to questions like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin and other similar issues (like when 'life' begins).
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Earl King
I intend to live forever, or die trying
12:42 PM on 10/11/2012
well that is the beauty of the cnetral nervous system...you can pick up electrical activity.

simple
03:10 PM on 10/13/2012
You are forgetting the Personhood Ammendment that many Repubs want to pass. And the fact that One Repub stated that science is from "the gates of Hell". And this man sits on the Committee that deals with Science - along with another intellectual lightweight - Todd Aiken.
Scary - I am not as confident as you that any abortions would be available- though I do appreciate your "scientific approach".
I link life with "viability" but understand there are not many out there that are like minded.
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joefrom de
"The road to success is always under construction.
09:36 AM on 10/11/2012
Republican candidates from around the country have been pushing for laws that restrict the right of a woman to use certain types of birth control. Increasing the access to BC decreases the chances of a woman getting pregnant and then having an abortion. With that fact in mind, it makes no sense whatsoever that Republicans want to limit BC.
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Carl Caroli
I just don't understand people
08:40 AM on 10/11/2012
Politics has little to do with reality in this nation.
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SGlitz
Independent and Proud of it
08:39 AM on 10/11/2012
You mean like "I will cut the Deficit in Half in my first term" instead you raise it 60%? :)
Nah, didn't think so.
08:49 AM on 10/11/2012
Really? The global economic collapse might have had a little impact on the ability to carry out that promise, don't you think?
And the deficit is 1.1 trillion as opposed to the 1.2 trillion it was 4 years ago. Obama is the thriftiest President since Eisenhaur in raising public spending. You can look it up, something you should have done before opening your yap.
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RUKidding0
Freedom is Fundamental
10:52 AM on 10/11/2012
dv/dt duplicitously ignores the starting v.

We have been pissing away Trillions of borrowed money that we must borrow.

Romney's question is the only pertinent one - is ______ worth borrowing from the Chinese to fund?
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SGlitz
Independent and Proud of it
12:05 PM on 10/11/2012
So that's why we had over a trillion dollar deficit for 4 years straight. fascinating.
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Gynn
09:23 AM on 10/11/2012
Remember all of those deficit cutting measure we proposed 2 years ago... Te were rejected by a Republican congress because it would cut oil subsidies and raise taxes on the super rich. But why should we protect America's children from a monster debt burden if the price to save them is reduce big oil profits or the rich'a dividends. With out that second beach house how will they ever did happiness?
08:26 AM on 10/11/2012
The comment about justices siding with roe v wade being republican appointees, is irrelevant to literally everything, apples and oranges. What a republican candidate or the republican party say or feel about the abortion issue has nothing to do with the original justices who voted for or against. I think that most people would not hesitate to pull a crying baby from a dumpster, its the humain thing to do. But those same people want the right to put a dead baby in the same dumpster, Just because you dont go out back of the clinic and see it doesnt mean it didnt happen. Even Debbie Rowe regrets having an abortion, as do most who reflect back on it many years later. It is a quick fix but not a long term solution,
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anon004
Yes, it's true -- reality has a liberal bias
12:14 PM on 10/11/2012
"Even Debbie Rowe"

Who the h*ll is that? The original plaintiff was Jane Roe, which was an assumed name to protect her identity because of the hostility in those days to a woman merely trying to gain the right to control her own body. I don't care how much you anti-choice people want women to die in back alleys again, we're NEVER going back.
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Buckeye54
...the One your mom warned you about!
08:07 AM on 10/11/2012
Here in Northwest Ohio a lot of politicians trumpet the fact that they're "pro-life" in order to garner votes; I even saw it on the sign for someone running for county commissioner. Like when do county commissioners vote on anything related to abortion?

It's a wedge issue, like equal rights for gays. With the death of DADT and the increasing acceptance of gay marriage rights, Republicans are terrified that they could lose this reliable "wedge" as well.
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IOKIYANO
11:35 AM on 10/11/2012
They establish their credentials at the local office level so that when they move for higher office, they can tout their resumes as impeccably pro-life forever.
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LONDON3
Music keeps me sane in a crazed society :-)
07:47 AM on 10/11/2012
Republican truth?!?!? Isn't that an oxymoron ....
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Crisdean Wulver
We've got our priorities screwed up.
07:13 AM on 10/11/2012
Except that it's obvious that they plan on overturning it from the appointment of Supreme Court Justices, which is a much slower way. Then know that if they tried to overturn it legislatively they would create a voter backlash in the next election. But make no mistake, if Romney's elected and gets a chance to appoint a Supreme Court justice, he'll appoint one who wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade.
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Dorothy Jean Fields
still thinking outside the box
09:42 AM on 10/11/2012
I wonder why it is that every few years Roe v Wade is up for grabs.
If pro-life people are really concerned then why not be in favor of prevention?
Planned parenthood offers much more then abortions.
Recently a young girl was giving a speech about getting pregnant, her high school was offering sex- education, information- prevention birth control pills etc.
A group of pro-life people showed up at her school in protest and basically shouted her down.
Her question to the pro-life crowd was why are you here now instead of when I was doing the things that got me pregnant.
This school was being pro-active and not advocating abortion but prevention.
Why is it so hard for pro- life people to understand the difference?
Or is it really just about control?
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anon004
Yes, it's true -- reality has a liberal bias
12:15 PM on 10/11/2012
"Or is it really just about control? "

In a word, yes.
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akgdma
03:40 AM on 10/11/2012
Ant-Abortion has been a GOP big business since I can remember. Nothing opens up donations from the local citizens like the "Right-to-Life" business. Palin got paid I recall 100,000 for one right to life fundraiser as quest speaker. The GOPs as I have known for decades are never going to kill off the "golden" fertilized egg.