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Dating A Divorcé: Is It Better To Couple Up With A Man Who's Already Been Married?

Posted: 05/11/2012 1:40 am

While unmarried men over the age of, say, 40, aren't looked upon with pity -- as some single women archaically still are -- maybe they should be, suggests a report from WABC in New York on Thursday.

According to the local station, men who've avoided settling down may be less desirable to women than those who have already taken the marital plunge -- then divorced.

I'm typically wary of sweeping generalizations, especially when it comes to telling women what kind of man they should be dating. Though, given how prevalent and accepted divorce is, it makes sense that women today may be less inclined to see a man's previous relationship as cause for concern -- or get turned off by the idea of him having too much "baggage."

In fact, they might even see some perks to dating a divorced man, as 30-year-old Melanie Berliet, who was quoted by ABC News, has experienced firsthand. The divorced man she is currently dating has "learned from mistakes," she says.

Los Angeles-based dating coach Lauren Frances agrees that this is one of the upsides to dating man who has already been married. "Dating a divorcé is like dating a self-walking dog," she says. "There's a kind of sharing that people who have been married have learned how to do, that a serial monogamist or a guy who is chronically single won't learn."

In my opinion, a previously married man certainly has two key qualities that many women look for in their future husband: 1) previous desirability as a marital partner, and 2) a proven capacity for commitment.

"With men over 35 who have never been married, there tends to be more incidence of both commitment issues and other psychological complications that will make it difficult for that man to have or sustain a marriage," says New York-based psychotherapist Michael Batshaw. "Conversely, men who are divorced after 35, were married for some time and seem interested in a long-term relationship are a much better risk as a future husband."

However, Batshaw notes that "there are always outliers." So, while ABC's story asks a catchy question-- Is divorced the new single? -- the argument that a divorcé is a more suitable potential partner than an eternal bachelor isn't so black and white.

There might actually be a significant downside to dating a divorced man, according to Frances: They often don't want to remarry. "They have been in situations in which they have lost a lot of their net worth and are reticent to put themselves in that situation again."

Take actor George Clooney. He's often labeled as a never-to-be-tamed bachelor, but he's actually one of these supposedly desirable divorcés. (He was married to actress Talia Balsam -- who now plays Mona Sterling on "Mad Men" -- from 1989 to 1993. Balsam is now married to actor John Slattery.)

Clooney, while clearly capable of commitment, has in fact vowed to never marry again -- and, so far, he's made good on that promise.

Along with a potential aversion to marry again, there are other drawbacks to dating a divorced man that women should consider.

"Men with children from a first marriage usually don't want more children," Frances says. They can feel really guilty for putting their children through a divorce and "they don't want their children from their first families to feel unwanted." She advises women who want marriage and children to be clear about their romantic goals within the first one or two dates to avoid investing their time -- and their hearts -- in men who don't share their goals.

According to Frances, pitting two types of men against each other based on their life experiences isn't necessarily all that helpful to women, either. "All of this information has to be read with a grain of salt," she says. "There are some universal principles that most people kind of fall into and there are always aberrations and there are always people who are in the fringe who don't behave according to type."

Instead, women need to look at each potential partner on an individual basis, Batshaw says. "Whether he is single or divorced is only one of many criteria that ultimately should be used to determine whether he has the right character traits for a future husband."

Allison Pescosolido, M.A., and Andra Brosh, PhD, founders of Divorce Detox, a full-service center and program for separation and divorce, said via e-mail: "An ideal partner, single or divorced, is a mature adult that has taken the time to become a complete, well-rounded individual," they say. "Divorced men have the benefit of gaining relationship experience that can help them in the future. Single men who have overcome hardships are preferable to single men with little life experience."

Ultimately, Frances believes that, while potential partners can be categorized in many ways, from her experience there are really only two kinds of men in the world: "those who get pleasure and self-esteem from making women happy and those who get pleasure and self-esteem from making themselves happy."

Women who find the former, she says, will be happy for life -- no matter what the guy's previous life experience was.

Click through the slideshow below to see celebs who bounced back better than ever post-divorce.

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Martha Stewart was originally a stock broker before she and her now ex-husband, Andrew Stewart, decided to move to Connecticut to restore an 1805 farmhouse. There, she started a successful catering business that garnered her a cookbook deal; her first book, "Entertaining" became a New York Times bestseller. She penned multiple books including "Martha Stewart's Quick Cook" (1983), "Martha Stewart's Hors D'oeuvres" (1984), and "Weddings" (1987), before she and her husband split in 1989. One year after her divorce, she created a magazine, Martha Stewart Living, for which she served as editor-in-chief. She rapidly expanded to radio and television, prompting New York Magazine to name her "the definitive American woman of our time" in 1995. Two years later, she launched Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia, a consolidation of the various television, print, and merchandising ventures related to the Martha Stewart brand. Sure, being incarcerated in 2005 for securities fraud wasn't a high point, but she launched a comeback upon her release and created the Emmy-nominated daytime talk show, "The Martha Stewart Show."
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While unmarried men over the age of, say, 40, aren't looked upon with pity -- as some single women archaically still are -- maybe they should be, suggests a report from WABC in New York on Thursday. ...
While unmarried men over the age of, say, 40, aren't looked upon with pity -- as some single women archaically still are -- maybe they should be, suggests a report from WABC in New York on Thursday. ...
 
 
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bgbytoys
staring down the corrrect end of a 45 barrel
04:25 PM on 06/01/2012
the divorcee knows first hand what they liked or didn't like about their partner. the 2nd time around especially after a 20 year marriage we have a better guage of what is most desirable traits to us. this goes for both sexes.
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qaan
I rescued Schrodinger's Cat
05:38 PM on 05/26/2012
OK, so let me get this straight. If you are a man over 40 and have never been married, there's something not right about you. If you're over 40 and have been divorced, then there's something not right about you.

No wonder the maried guys are so popular. A college friend of mine travels a lot on business and apparently his wedding ring is a chick magnet when he stays overnight at a hotel. Seems like the only relationships people are interested in are the disposable kind.
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12:25 PM on 05/20/2012
Thank you Ms. Burton, WABC and Ms. Frances for giving all of us divorced men hope and getting the word out on our behalf. Women who constantly complain that "all of the good ones are either taken or gay" would be pleasantly surprised at the high quality of divorced men out there who have been excluded from consideration as a result of a divorce stigma that does not seem to apply to divorced women.
09:36 PM on 05/17/2012
They are both' bad' to date. A man who is over 40 and never married?? Questionable, why hasn't he made the commitment, to me, that's scary and Im sorry, but say' I haven't found the right women" just doesn't cut it, as for dating a married man, it seems a little better, but all that baggage, and im dating his wife and kids as well, they usually never want to marry again, so it's a catch 21, your damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I agree, it will depend on the individual , not the actual' divorcee, or never been married" part that comes into play. Although, I would probably prefer to date a man who has been married, it scares me that he wasn't able to ever " find that special person in 40 yrs"!!! This is why i love my dogs soo much and I just hire a handy man.
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qaan
I rescued Schrodinger's Cat
05:29 PM on 05/26/2012
Your last sentence explains everything. Thanks for including it.
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ligligl
feelthy liberal! ...and not just a pretty face!
01:22 PM on 05/17/2012
Having been previously serially married, I find that I share my goal with most women...we both want my money...
09:37 PM on 05/17/2012
ha ha
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09:46 PM on 05/16/2012
"says New York-based psychotherapist Michael Batshaw. "Conversely, men who are divorced after 35, were married for some time and seem interested in a long-term relationship are a much better risk as a future husband."

Conversely, since women initiate divorce twice as often as men, largely with the expectation of receiving child custody and support (Brinig/Allen, 2000); and often for mundane reasons such as incompatibility, growing apart, personality clashes, and lack of communication (Amato/Previti,2003); should we conclude that divorced women are poor risks for future marriage?
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WWZander
Where were you the day the Music died?
09:09 AM on 05/17/2012
AMEN!
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ligligl
feelthy liberal! ...and not just a pretty face!
01:24 PM on 05/17/2012
I find that all women are poor risks for future marriage
07:20 PM on 05/16/2012
Why date a man who has been divorced, his first wife allready got his money.
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mugwhump
My chihuahuas own me.
08:16 PM on 05/15/2012
We are trained to put the lid down too.
06:56 AM on 05/16/2012
lol, put the lid down, you are funny.
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mugwhump
My chihuahuas own me.
07:28 AM on 05/16/2012
I started leaving both seats down.
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ligligl
feelthy liberal! ...and not just a pretty face!
01:26 PM on 05/17/2012
I put the seat down, but then I loosen the bolts...
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08:13 PM on 05/15/2012
Marriage is now obsolete. The gays want to get married and the straights want to shack up! Shacking up is preferred to getting married for a few months and perhaps having babies that nobody wants!
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WWZander
Where were you the day the Music died?
09:10 AM on 05/17/2012
Shaking up is also a lot cheaper then losing half of your stuff!
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Swimdude
05:27 PM on 05/15/2012
I am divorced 9 years now. I can't imagine me being a desirable partner. My first marriage was one where my wife almost never wanted to have Sex, I can't imagine that being any different with the women in my age category (I am 51). Frankly if my wife stopped wanting Sex I would divorce her at the drop of a hat just because she wasn't meeting my needs. My x-wife and I used to argue about Money, she always got mad that I was saving so much. It didn't matter that she got nice jewelry, nice cars, nice place to live and great vacations. She was always mad I didn't spend enough money. Frankly I would require any woman I would marry to be self sufficient and have her own Money. I refuse to support someone that can't/won't take care of themselves.

For these two reasons, I can't see how any woman would find me desirable unless they think they can still change me. Being Single is Awesome, Marriage really Blows....
12:16 AM on 05/16/2012
Money and sex are the top two reasons couples fight about.
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Swimdude
10:37 AM on 05/16/2012
I agree. I don't want to fight anymore. Thus why I am not in a relationship. I know that for me if I got in a relationship that given my history, I used to be a fighter, I am not a fighter anymore. I am not a door mat either, so I would just run away. For me, like I say, I don't want to fight, I just want to live.
03:30 PM on 05/16/2012
I kind of feel the same way, but am in a relationship and talking marriage, been living together going on two years. Thankfully I'm with somoene who loves sex and has done without and never wants to do without again. I rarely initiate because she always beats me to it and if I could I think she would do it 5 times a day. And, she actually makes a good living but is just as thrifty as me, completely unlike my ex wife who always had to have such expensive things, even if it meant putting us into massive credit card debt.

I just don't know if I could stick with a marriage. Before I was in it for life and it would have taken something a lot more serious than having to put up with very little sex and a grumpy wife who was way too easily offended and way too hard to please for me to even consider divorce. I feel like I might be able to commit again, get married, but I'd have one foot out the door. I don't know that I'd ever find anyone as wonderful as the one I'm with, but the thought of getting married again appeals to me less and less every day. She's dying to get married and live happily ever after and I'm just so damed wishy washy on it because while sometimes it sounds really good it scares the Hell out of me.
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Swimdude
04:55 PM on 05/16/2012
My x-wife got 1/2 my hard earned assets and cheated on me for 9 years. I guess it was good that I didn't spend as much as she wanted me to, so she made out well in the end. I did end up getting custody of our now 16 year old daughter, so all was not lost. I guess I am just not willing to gamble my daughters future and my financial future on "IF" I find the right woman now.

I am glad your current situation is working out well for you. I hope you make the right choice for you.
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mds308
America. Love it or Leave it to Beaver.
05:10 PM on 05/15/2012
I've been divorced twice. This makes me twice as desirable. Sounds nicer than two time loser.
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WWZander
Where were you the day the Music died?
09:13 AM on 05/17/2012
Do you know if those two times where felonys, the third one would put you in jail for the rest of your life? So, looking at it that way means your third marrage should be the one!
04:45 PM on 05/15/2012
11 years with my wife and still going strong....although if I were to do the marriage thing again I'll never marry a drinker-smoker again and hook up with a woman that has more "spice" in bed.
04:41 PM on 05/15/2012
It's like Chris rock says, "Single and lonely, or married and bored."
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05:04 PM on 05/15/2012
There are two choices in life: Stay single and be miserable, or get married and wish you were dead.
03:53 PM on 05/15/2012
Well, it's nice to be compared with stars-- but the truth for this middle aged divorced man is; I don't have any desire to be re-married again. Giving my "all" for 28 years as a good husband, father and provider supplying a nice upper class home, 2 college accounts for my children, world class vacations and several new cars for my then wife, only to have the horribly biased court reward her with 90% of the assets and leaving me barely liveable even after she openly admitted to recently using METH and STILL getting custody of our daughter- it left a pretty bitter taste in my mouth and NO desire to ever have to experience anything like that ever again in my life. The problem is that now, my girlfriend (who treats me literally like a god - I couldn't ask for better) is paying the price. She would love to marry me. she's a good girl & certainly deserves that - but I'm just to "gun shy" now. And yes; after spending the remainder of the year after my divorce not dating, I was quite surprised to see how many women that were interested in me. Honestly - I sincerely hope that someday this angst will leave me so that I may again be harmoniously entangled and hopefully, not die alone. But for now....even after 3 years since my divorce...... I just can't help but be in love with "what should have been"......
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Swimdude
05:31 PM on 05/15/2012
I totally agree with you except for the long term girl friend part. The last 5 years for me I have had 3 dates, about 18 months apart each. I go out on a date, remember how horrible it is and then recoil in to a shell for the next 18 months until I forget how bad the last date was and I agree to go out on a date again. I have told every woman I have gone out with in the 9 years since my divorce that I don't want to get married again. That is usually a deal breaker for most, however, some find it a challenge and frankly become Stalkers.
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KBES
Dumb all over and a little ugly on the side
03:03 PM on 05/15/2012
When I divorced women treated me like the plague. Now that I'm married again single and married women are interested. I believe women are more attracted to a married man than single men.
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Justrealityplease
03:50 PM on 05/15/2012
Can't have what they want, so more desirable. Pitiful game playing.