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Where Are the 'Normal' Men?

Posted: 04/ 3/2012 8:45 am

Sometimes I have a reoccurring conversation with myself. This usually takes place after a particularly disturbing date, when I'm left suspended in disbelief.

It goes something like this: Am I being too picky?I then pause, reflect briefly, and always arrive at the same conclusion: Nope.

For instance, last week I went on a date with a guy who asked me if I was clean. Like this: "Are you clean?" I had a momentary bout of worry. Organic deodorants work, don't they? Then I thought he might be inquiring about my drug history. We were in Alphabet City, after all. But I don't look like a heroin-user. I don't even have high cheekbones. Thankfully, he clarified. He meant "STD-free." Mind you, this is before the tiramisu arrived.

Speaking of drugs, I also went on a date with an enraged steroid-user who looked like Hulk Hogan. He was literally bursting out of his clothes. The buttons on his polo shirt were about to pop into my plate of scallops and I was afraid I would swallow them and that would be the end of everything, including my love life.

Then there was the guy who offered to pay me $5,000 for an act of fellatio. He said he was kidding, but it ruined the mood. That was followed by: the coke addict with the facelift, the pint-sized asexual with a penchant for eyebrow waxing, the doctor who informed me within fifteen minutes of meeting me that he had "no interest in erectile dysfunction" (he was a doctor but still!) and the megalomaniac on Weight Watchers who took me on a date to Starbucks where he nibbled on a fruit parfait and talked to me about his motorcycle collection.

Add to that the guy who wore an old, woolen beanie throughout dinner. Like he did not take it off all night and I swear it had a special odor. I am not going to blame the poor cheese plate.

And finally, there was the guy who told me he dreams of a Range Rover full of offspring (gulp) and called his mother "insufferable." Handsome as he was, I Absolutely Cannot Date a man who doesn't have a healthy relationship with his mother, can I?

So I ask myself: Am I being too picky?

Nope.

All of this does not mean I hate men. I love men. Some of them. Sometimes. Just not the ones I've been out with recently.

Because these encounters have me left me wondering: Where are the normal men? *

(I really don't mean this in a rhetorical sense. Where are they?)

This isn't about being superficial. Or about being a so-called feminist. This is about self-preservation and sanity. This is about looking to meet someone who has manners. Even if I can embrace some mild eccentricities, why would I willingly breed with a total weirdo who has no concept of how to behave with a woman?

I'll admit -- there were a few okay dates, ones that had me feeling relieved that not everyone has lost the plot, but I felt very meh about them. Meh just doesn't cut it. Once you've experienced the evasive spark, it's hard to shack up with someone you feel humdrum about. I guess a meh guy to me is akin to Mr. Good Enough. But I don't want to feel meh about my lifetime partner. Does anyone?

And frankly, this is all very disheartening for me, too. Because I met some of these men through friends, so it's not like I picked them up off the street. If this is what New York women have had to put up with all this time, no wonder they complain about it!

You see, no matter what the media is spewing at us about settling for whoever or whatever if we want to have kids, it's still important to have standards. Most of us would rather be alone than be with someone who freaks us out, has a psychological disorder or fails to inspire us in any way. It is hard to argue with that.

And although I am happy for that recent wave of women who have declared they are content to be single forever, it's just honestly not what I want for myself. Because I know myself. I just won't be. I will always feel like something is missing.

There, I said it.

Granted, my upbringing probably has something to do with my unwillingness to give up on love. My parents are still in love, so I know it exists (and can last, provided you choose the right companion). When I was little, I was repeatedly told that I "would marry a prince." This was followed by a teenage-hood spent devouring romcoms. I now realize a lot of women grew up with these fairytales, and it's hard for us to shake off the idea that we deserve someone respectful and thoughtful, someone with self-control and good grooming. And frankly, why would we want to? I would argue it's just as hard to shake that off as it is for a person who grew up in a religious household to shake off their religious beliefs. It becomes sort of engrained in your psyche, and no matter how much you tell yourself God doesn't actually exist or that Prince William is now off the market, it's hard to really believe it. Beneath the dating despair, a smidgeon of hope endures.

But even if you toss the prince fantasy aside (sigh) and simply look for a kind, intelligent person with a decent sense of humor who was "raised well" (and is attractive on some level), it's still hard to find him, unattached, at least in a big city like New York. And I'm not enough of a shark to circle around the eligible men, waiting for them to become single. Maybe this is what strategic women do, but it's not my style.

Besides, I don't care about money -- that stuff comes and goes -- but I would like someone who automatically walks on the outside of the sidewalk, in case a New York taxicab should fly over the curb and graze one of us (yes, someone who's willing to take a grazing for me). Or a man who puts his hand on the small of my back as he opens the door to a restaurant, and guides me in, like Cary Grant would do. I know where the door is, but shouldn't it be him catching swine flu, not me? Is that so horribly twentieth century of me to want these basic things?

If so, who cares!

I like it, and I want it. And I don't want to settle for anything less. Why should I, or should any woman, for that matter?

This is not about desperation. It's about intent. It's about knowing what you want and recognizing what's not going to cut it.

And I sure as hell ain't gonna settle for the dregs. So men, when I say "No Weirdos Please," I just want to tell you now, once and for all, I kind of really mean it.


* By normal, I mean a well-adjusted individual with a grasp of social etiquette who has very little in common with your average psychopath.

 

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Sometimes I have a reoccurring conversation with myself. This usually takes place after a particularly disturbing date, when I'm left suspended in disbelief. It goes something like this: Am I being t...
Sometimes I have a reoccurring conversation with myself. This usually takes place after a particularly disturbing date, when I'm left suspended in disbelief. It goes something like this: Am I being t...
 
 
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C Kevin Provance again
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12:28 PM on 04/15/2012
Women don;t want a nice guy, even if they say they do. A certain 'match' site is about to give me my free six months because this nice guy has yet to be claimed. All those ladies who say they want the nice guy, who want us to 'write them' them and ask questions, they never, ever reply back. Now, I know I am not the most attractive guy out there, but these same women claim not to be shallow. Lie #2. The fact that I have never been arrested, have a job, don;t live with my mom (but raising a son, I guess that's seen as baggage, even if she has her own children) seems to make no difference. My nose is a little big and that apparently is an instant turn off. So really, I have have a lot more respect for these gals if they were a little more honest in their search for the nice guy. It should say something like "ISO nice guy, but I would prefer it if you were as hot an sexy as the bad guy, which I know isn't possible, so I will probably ignore you and wait to be duped by one of those bad guys yet again and then cry for a year over blowing off the nice guy, and when I get over it, ill blow him off again because all I care about is looks". Yeah,a that sounds about right.
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Politidelic
Death & Taxes
06:27 PM on 04/20/2012
Perhaps it's your attitude. Reading your comments was enlightening, you're not very nice, I don't know where you're coming off with the "nice guy" thing at all. Maybe if you had some lightness in your mannerism and your heart, you'd fare better with the ladies.
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C Kevin Provance again
My micro-bio did not meet your guidelines.
07:40 PM on 04/20/2012
So you're saying I should sell out who I am? Pretend to be someone I am not?
11:37 PM on 04/25/2012
If you're a man, stay off dating sites.
tobereal
pseudonym of a pseudonym
12:39 AM on 04/15/2012
Is this sarcasm?

"the pint-sized asexual with a penchant for eyebrow waxing..."

Here's a clue, there's nothing abnormal about being a short and/or thin male.

You're a head-case.
11:19 AM on 04/11/2012
Normal men are out there. The problem is that nobody wants them. As Chris Rock once said "the problem is that 90% of the women are sleeping with 10% of the men. And if you are not one of the 10% then they don't even see you!

Until they hit 30...

Then those guys whom they would not look twice at or even consider dating suddenly become attractive. You know the ones: the one with a job, the nice guy, the one without an arrest record, those that aren't "spontaneous", the ones not covered in tattoos, and the ones that aren't "bad boys". But now they don't see you! They see the 23 year old aerobic instructors/dancers that work out twice a day. They pass you by and you are left with those same guys you wanted before but now realize are not what you need.

Oh well...
01:14 PM on 04/08/2012
Seriously this princess stuff really has to go. You are trying to live out a fantasy, and you will never be happy because you already have preconceived notions in your head about how a guy should act. You already mentioned that you have gone out with normal guys but they were just "meh",but this response is exactly why guys turn into jerks: if you are an average looking guy who is nice you are going to get put into the "meh" zone, so you have to recalibrate and act a little bit more macho, maybe even more of a jerk. These guys probably seem weird because they don't know how to act anymore...they tried being nice and it got them nowhere.
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01:49 AM on 04/08/2012
I am a frog who married a princess who regarded me as a prince throughout our years together. She was low maintenance in the best sense: she wanted to love and to be loved and she allowed me to love her and loved me in turn. Why? I don't know. She was physically beautiful and cared little about looks. We both worked, me full time and she part-time and we never had a lot of money. But we had enough for our needs and our hearts were full of the blessings which abound when you love someone. Others wondered why she had chosen me, but they knew how much we love each other.

All this is a way of saying that real love is a mystery. It is not a contract-- you give me this and I'll give you that. One may give more than the other but does not feel it is a burden. One may have more control than the other, but the other feels grateful to be controlled by someone he or she loves. It is about hearts in unity and lives in unity. It comes to you when you least expect it. It comes not as bells and whistles and Hollywood-inspired passion, but as whispers of intimacy and open-heartedness. It comes with both the lowest of expectations and the highest.
jbad
Eeny,meeny,miney Moe, It's always Moe
08:25 PM on 04/07/2012
I'm here. I've always been here, waiting for you.
06:18 PM on 04/07/2012
Dear woman,

I myself just smoked a joint, so forgive me my frankness. Until a year ago I had a relationship with a much younger girl whom I loved. Deeply. I did everything for her; pay, listen, care, transport, swallow my tongue, go down on her, bleed and cry. I had hoped she would, one day, change and see that she would never ever meet another guy who was willing to put up with her -- because, quite simply, I checked most of the boxes a male in her league would ever check.

She never changed. She never apologized for being wrong, bitchy, sorry, mistakes. So, after five long years, I dumped her. Being single couldn't beworse than miserable.

Since then, I've dated and met new women. It was a sobering, helpful experience.

Bottom line: the ideal mate just doesn't exist. The more people you meet, the more you'll want mate to have all the things some have. We all have to learn to settle.

You should feel lucky there's a mr. Good Enough, woman writer, when you're old you might understand that, after these years of loyalty, patience, hard work he was mr. Right all along.

After all, why would someone even stay with you? only mr. Right would.
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djtejas
10:12 AM on 04/07/2012
To me it sounds like the author is not being "picky", but picking the wrong ones to go out with...

There are many "normal" men out there...
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bluespagan
Love is the Law, Love under Will
11:11 AM on 04/06/2012
I read alot about how you want your partner to be but I read very little about how you are. One thing that my husband taught me is that if you want your partner to treat you a certain way you have to reciprocate. For instance, I wanted him to be affectionate towards me but couldn't figure out why he just wouldn't. At first I wanted to blame him, he was just being the "stereotypical guy". But upon further reflection I figured out that I was not being affectionate towards him. I didn't sit and just spend time with him or pay any attention to me so why should I expect him to do something I wasn't doing myself?
I think that women who are going on dates should ask themselves the same thing. Ok so you don't want to talk about his motorcycle collection, well what conversation do you have to bring to the table that will interest the both of you? I think that anymore, there is an expectation out there that men have to be Prince Charming and women can just be whatever, there are no expectations on us. But honestly, we should expect more of ourselves than of our partner. When we do that you would be surprised at how things tend to either fall in place naturally or come and then go just as naturally.
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AnneDublin
Today is tomorrow, We worried about yesterday.
03:18 PM on 04/06/2012
Agreed. I realised this a good few years ago and I repeat it when I get the chance. If you want a good partner then you have to be worthy of them, you have to bring equal qualities to the table. You have to be good, honourable, caring, attentive, interesting, fun, healthy, responsible, ambitious, easy going, patient, brave, loyal and just plain nice if you want a good 'normal' partner with those same qualities. Work on yourself before you go out expecting to get what you want. Expecting Prince Charming is unrealistic if you aren't Princess Perfect.
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02:02 AM on 04/06/2012
I stopped reading. You aren't being too picky, you are going on too many dates. I firmly believe in first impressions. If you don't like steroid users, why were you on a date with one? They're pretty obvious. Most of my friends simply date too much. If you want to get laid (generally directed, not at the author) go get laid. But don't pretend that you are hurt when it doesn't "work out".

PS - I'm a dude.
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11:09 AM on 04/06/2012
I thought the same thing kiddub. It sounded very much like all the horror stories my sister told me with all her Match.com dates.

Going on a date with someone you have never met is risky business. Before I go further, let me qualify that statement..I'm not saying Match.com isn't a good thing, and I know that people have met their mates through this and other dating sites. But the kissed alot of frogs in the meantime!

There's a very good chance you will wind up going on a lot of dates that you would have preferred to end almost instantly, but instead you suffered through to be kind. Why? Because you went on a date with someone you really (REALLY) knew nothing about, There is nothing in the world preventing people from presenting themselves in a false light on dating sites. When you come face to face, you find out the real REAL them.

If you have the patience and time, its fine. I don't. I'd rather wait for a date that I know at least a teeny tiny bit about first!. Yes, I does mean lonely times, for sure, because in your 50s, its not easy!

The author's horror stories (she was funny, gotta admit), would probaly not have occurred nearly as often if she met these "dates" through other people, or having previously at least met them!!!!
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Professor Wagstaff
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10:39 PM on 04/05/2012
You mentioned having the mood ruined by a "guy who offered to pay $5,000 for an act of fellatio". I certainly don't want to ruin the mood on my dates, so how much should I offer?
02:05 AM on 04/06/2012
I'm guessing you don't date much.
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Professor Wagstaff
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02:24 PM on 04/06/2012
Jeez - just because a guy asks for some dating tips, you assume he's a drip. I go on lots of dates.... and they don't always end with her sneaking out of the restaurant!
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Pax333
12:38 PM on 04/07/2012
Why? I think what he said is pretty funny, I'm still chuckling, and I'm betting I'm not the only woman who appreciates a quick wit.
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11:19 AM on 04/06/2012
Hahahaha!

"Normal men" should find that comment funny as well.
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joncavanaugh
I am, and forever remain, at your service.
09:54 PM on 04/05/2012
If you want Cary Grant act like Grace Kelly.
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Professor Wagstaff
My micro-bio is a lie
10:42 PM on 04/05/2012
Do you mean ask him if he prefers legs or breasts like she did in "To Catch A Thief"?
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02:03 AM on 04/06/2012
Women can't be sexually powerful?
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
05:18 AM on 04/06/2012
No, they should be able to text all day, eat Cheetos, never exercise and THEN it's her God given right to have the perfect guy.
11:25 AM on 04/06/2012
Reading your comments I sometimes wonder if you are really a "Miss", or is it the "1989" showing through.
09:46 PM on 04/05/2012
That's simple. They got sick of constantly being ignored by women, so they became jerks.
09:04 PM on 04/05/2012
Woman good, man bad.
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AnneDublin
Today is tomorrow, We worried about yesterday.
03:36 PM on 04/06/2012
Don't be getting the hump over the truth. There are horrible, nasty, weird, controlling and cruel women out there. There are horrible, nasty, weird, controlling and cruel men out there. It makes no difference to me as both genders can be equally awful. Men and woman I speak to professionally have the same problem: trying to find a nice 'normal' person to settle down with in cosy domesticity once their 20's are out of the way. Both genders have a hard time finding suitable mates as the good one's are usually snapped up already and the freaks and wierdos are mostly what's left. Don't get the hump and moan about sexism over this person's lamentations - they are based on real experience and equally apply to both genders. Surely she's allowed to speak of her experience without over-sensitive accusations of sexism?
11:43 PM on 04/06/2012
Same message. Same response.