The Five Stages Of Political Grieving: Acceptance Comes to Camp Clinton

Posted May 7, 2008 | 06:18 AM (EST)



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One school of psychiatric thought holds that there are five stages of grieving: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. While Senator Clinton has of late been loath to throw her lot in with elite experts (presumably this includes psychiatrists as well as economists; basically any "-ist" profession), the passions on display in both camps of Democrats indicate that we're all due for a little head-shrinking, so here goes. (In fairness, I'd note that if the shoe were on the other foot, and if it were Obama's candidacy facing its waning days, his supporters could be similarly characterized by these same stages of grief.)

Denial -- The Clinton team has been impressively steadfast in their constant denial of their waning chances for the nomination at every turn, stump speech, and press conference since Obama established himself as the frontrunner after his dominating wins in mid-February. Part of that denial was earned (Ohio, Texas, and Pennsylvania) and part was merely fortuitous (Reverend Wright). Part of that denial was also the familiar candidates' game of "we're in it to win it!", a stubborn optimism (Dean's scream speech being the archetype) until, all of a sudden, you're out of it.

And to show that denial is not just for on-air campaign surrogates, last night's comments on Hillary Clinton's official blog reflected similar emotions: "I am still praying that the results are not real that somehow at least the results are just single digits in NC. . . ."; and, "I can't believe it --- I really thought we were going to do it finally!!!"

Anger -- As for this most visceral stage, consider what has become the pundits' favorite post-primary metric: the McCain defection rate. That is to say, what percentage of Clinton supporters will defect to McCain or stay home in the general election rather than vote for Obama, and vice versa. These percents reached new highs yesterday, with half of Clinton's Indiana supporters refusing to vote for Obama in the general (1/3 would pick McCain and 17% wouldn't vote at all), and 50% of Clinton's North Carolina supporters refusing to back Obama in the general (38% for McCain and 12% staying home).

Without getting too "meta," I think that the McCain defection rate has taken on a life of its own. The defection percentages may have ballooned over the last few contests not only because Clinton and Obama supporters are genuinely caught up in the swell of pre-primary emotion (including floods of negative mail and TV spots), but also because those polled about their Democratic loyalties are trying to get the attention of superdelegates, party leaders, and the media. To indicate one's acceptance of the other candidate is to "weaken" your own--albeit ever so slightly. I'd also note that the apparent greater potential acceptance rate by Obama supporters if Clinton were to become the nominee (59% of Obama Hoosiers would back Clinton against McCain, as would 70% of Obama Tarheels) is reflective of his supporters' more certain belief that he will be the nominee. Certainty and strength makes magnanimity easier.

Bargaining -- This stage can be summed up in two words: Florida and Michigan. Over the past few days, Clinton's strategists have indicated a willingness to pursue the so-called nuclear option to try and seat the Florida and Michigan delegations according to their prior votes. Last-ditch efforts to improve one's lot are perfectly consistent with this third stage. And lest I be accused of abetting any disenfranchisement, let me direct you to the audio of Senator Clinton noting that "It's clear, this election [Michigan is] having is not going to count for anything."

Depression -- "I have been watching the news and getting depressed also." (another of last night's comments on the Clinton blog).

Acceptance -- In their speeches last night, both candidates emphasized that the Democratic party will coalesce around the nominee and work to take back the White House in November. Acceptance was always stage that either disappointed Obama or Clinton supporters would have to face, and while it won't come immediately, never underestimate the power of your candidate making nice with her opponent and stumping for him. Take the following Clinton blog comments: "Hillary will be behind Barack Obama if he's the nominee, we should be too"; and, "Obama is a good Democrat. I probably would vote for him if he is the nominee. If I wouldn't I surely wouldn't vote for McCain, I'd rather not vote at all in such case."

Wounds may heal more quickly than thought and rumors of the demise of Democratic chances may be greatly exaggerated and too much for Republicans to hope for. Perhaps the only other acceptance-related question that remains is whether Obama would offer Clinton the Vice-Presidency, and whether she would accept.


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Unfortunately Hillary Clinton's pattern in life is never to admit that she makes a mistake or lies or misspeaks or is thinking about anyone but Hillary Clinton. David Gergen (as Bill Clinton's White House Aide) was not able to schedule a meeting with her (due to her refusal to see him) when he was trying to settle the Whitewater investigation and we all remember how that investigation expanded and led to Monica Lewinsky eventually. So, Hillary's decisions are not always smart (like her gas tax pandering) or successful.

What will it take to get Hillary Clinton to leave the campaign? Perhaps she will keep loaning her campaign money and the Clintons will reduce their resources.

I hope that her past supporters will STOP DONATING MONEY TO HILLARY!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 05/07/2008

It's been so interesting to observe her obstinate capacity for denial. I'm beginning to wonder if that is how she dealt with/tolerated all of Bill's philandering for 30+ years. How else could a woman retain any self-respect and still remain in such a marriage?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 05/08/2008

A woman will run again and win. The younger generation has many capable women. My daughter is one of them. She is the head of the Young Democrats in Cumberland County in North Carolina. She would make a great president or she would run the campaign of a woman presidential candidate.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 05/07/2008

Good for her!! --and good for you. It sounds like you've raised a daughter who's contributing to the common good.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 05/08/2008

It's one thing for a campaign's followers and supporters to go through these stages; it is entirely another, and unacceptable, for a candidate to get so caught up in her own self-righteous denial, anger, and bargaining that she sacrifices her party's best interests for her own wounded pride.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 05/07/2008

And I can't help but wonder how much her pig headed refusal to have anything any way but her own had to do with the failure of the Clinton's attempt to get universal health care 15 years ago. Would a more 'able' politician have managed to accomplish what she could not?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 05/10/2008

Wait until you hear McCain's views. As bitter as I would be if at this point Hillary stole the election from Obama I know I would have to vote for her over McCain. If Obama is the nominee women would never vote for a man who calls his wife a cunt and would put judges on the Supreme Court who would overturn Roe Vs Wade. There isn't that much bitter in the world!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 05/07/2008

Hillary did this to herself with her negative attack ads.
Her chickens have come home to roost. Don't let the smile fool you. She is ruthless and will do ANYTHING to get her way.
She and her husband played the race card and it backfired. So did the Jeremiah Wright non-story.
Serves them right to lose more than $11 million too. She and Bill have made their bed, so now let them lie in it - with or without Monica Lewinsky.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 05/07/2008

Sure, Clinton female supporters claim they will vote for McCain before they'd vote for Obama, although why that is so, I can't understand. But when McCain makes it clear, as he has repeatedly, that he is squarely against abortion for any reason, that females have no right to control their own bodies, perhaps they'll think twice.

When those same women realize that McCain will reinstitute the draft to support the endless wars he has in mind, and that their own children, however young now, will be sent to the slaughter along with those of the poor, they'll probably think further. When social security, workers comp, and all the rest of a civilized society's remedies for exploitation and greed disappear, as McCain pays back the neo-cons, fundamentalists, and the rest of the unsavory crew he has thrown in with, maybe those women will have even further thoughts.

If they insist on sulking and don't vote, that will still be a vote for McCain. I say this as a lifelong 'rabid' feminist who had always hoped to see a women in the presidency. As it is, I won't be around for another eight years, so this is it for me. Bummer!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 05/07/2008

I keep getting asked to donate money to put a Democrat in the Presidency in 08. Yet Hillary after her loss last night and her "we're moving forward speech, please send me more money", really pissed me off. All this money she has raised and is wasting on a lost cause, the nomination , could be raised to run ads like the great DNC ads on CNN showing what a flip flopper McCain is.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 05/07/2008

Although I agree with almost all of your well-thought out blog, Nathaniel, I have to disagree with your assessment of the possibility of the VP slot being offered to Ms. Clinton. Certainly that move would be at least premature at this stage, given the "bitter" divide between these candidates' messages. Placing the "experience" candidate into a position to assume the administration of the "change Washington" candidate in the event that Obama cannot fulfill that role would undercut Obama's message too much and would therefore damage his chances in the general election. Please do not underestimate the importance of holding to an optimistic and unchanging vision in election dynamics.

This may seem like a dilemma for the Obama and Clinton camps, but it can be resolved if Obama offers her some other high profile position within his administration, one that will still improve her chances in a future presidential contest, but that does not place her in a direct line of ascention to the White House within his term of office.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 05/07/2008

Obama should not offer VP to Clinton. With her being only a heartbeat away from the Presidency, she'll still bring out Repubs in record numbers to vote against her. And, who knows what somebody might do to see that Obama is out of the way so she can be the nominee.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 05/07/2008

VP??? I would never vote for Obama if he allowed the Clintons back in the White House. This nation need real talent and teamwork to solve monumental problems that are being heaped upon us by CheneyOilCo... Clinton can never be part of a solution... it is not within her to be anything but self-serving

Hillary and Bill - putting the "nasty" in Dynasty since 1992

ps... part of the problem was understanding and adhering to how this race was scored... for instance:
Denial - Texas... she didn't win Texas. This is a delegate contest. It always has been. Obama won more delegates in Texas. deny it...

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 05/07/2008

"I'd also note that the apparent greater potential acceptance rate by Obama supporters if Clinton were to become the nominee (59% of Obama Hoosiers would back Clinton against McCain, as would 70% of Obama Tarheels) is reflective of his supporters' more certain belief that he will be the nominee. "

I disagree with you on this. What the higher potential acceptance rate among Obama supporters shows is that Obama's supporters are simply more committed Democrats. He connects with the die-hard base of the party -- African-Americans, highly educated voters, and yes, God forbid, liberals and liberal activists. These are folks who wouldn't cross over and vote Republican if you put a gun to their heads. Hillary's a DLC Democrat, and her supporters are, not surprisingly, more conservative, and thus less committed to the national Democratic Party. It's no coincidence that the group that she holds out as most important -- white, blue-collar voters -- are also the most likely to desert to the Republicans. While I don't discount the importance of that group, Democrats can't count on their support. In contrast, the people supporting Obama (AAs, "eggheads," and liberals) offer votes that you can take to the bank in November. They *may* not be enough on their own to ensure a Dem victory, but you sure as hell will NEVER win without them.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 05/07/2008

Let me tell you what I've accepted Nathaniel. It's over for Hillary and it's over for Obama too. McCain will be the next president and who knows, maybe he'll have good people around him.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 05/07/2008

LOL

There's still a long way to go, frustrated. The campaign for the general election hasn't even started yet.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 05/08/2008

Such pessimism! My goodness, we haven't even turned our efforts to the general election fight yet and you are already throwing in the towel?

John McCain is the most flawed Republican candidate to come along in a very long time. Even the GOP, known for its lockstep dynamics, refuses to coalesce behind him because of his past "Maverick" label. His numerous blunders, his willingness to embrace Bush's political rhetoric and war, his obvious signs of senility, his temper tantrums, all of these things have yet to be explored fully.

Once the Democratic nominating process is finished, so is McCain. It will be a "stay at home" contest for the Republicans. Not only will Obama take the White House, but the Senate and House will also gain democrats, producing a Democratic party working in both the Legislative and Executive branches to produce a sea change in government that is long overdue. Also, Obama will likely be in a position to appoint two Supreme Court Justices as Ginsberg and Stevens, both liberal-leaning Justices, will likely retire during his first administration. Such an opportunity to preserve the balance of the current court will also ensure that the Democratic political changes are implemented smoothly.

McCain is McToast. He just doesn't know it yet.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 05/07/2008

You're absolutely right, frustratedinohio, it's all over and McCain has won. Nothing for us to do now, but curl up in a ball on the floor and moan. I mean, it's not like McSame and the Repugs have any problems of their own in this election, right?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/7/9501/04512/342/510194

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/7/131934/5826/540/511029

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=10299

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=10295

Yep, we are SO screwed! Nothing to do but hope McNasty will be gentle with us, when he bends us over a hogshead and gives us all a Viagra-fueled rogering! Resistance is futile! Let the pissing and moaning begin!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/07/2008

Hey, electress. Healing takes place when the wounds are allowed to heal. It's not happening to Af/Am or women. why the uprise on fuel prices now? It was predicted years ago. Our current economic model was designed after WWII to be a consumption based one. We've outdone ourselves and now we pay.

Florida and Michigan were snuffed by Republican moves. Study up, electress.

Koolaide? Like Jim Jones? You sound that cynical. Or Victory Gin and Victory Cigarettes for the Middle Class who have been used by our elitist overclass and are sent afloat by the corporate complex. The debt started way before Bush (although that axis of evil added a lot of fuel). Do you really think we had a surplus during Clinton Machine politics? Hey, get to the next Bilderberg meeting, maybe you can find out.

"distortation"? Hey, are you a Bushite? You voted yet? McCainite? What do you mean, "We?" Speak for yourself. We will see a woman president. At least in my lifetime

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 05/07/2008

All the Democrats in Florida voted with the Republicans to move up the primary date. Plenty of blame to go around there.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 05/08/2008

you are right about florida being the fault of the republicans, but the michigan fiasco falls squarely at the feet of democratic senator carl Levin. look it up.

As for McCain winning, well, GBW did win in 2004 when it looked prettuy bad for the r's , but ti seems to me that even my most resolute republican friends know that they have really f'**'ed it up, and even the corporate money is going ot dems this year, so it doesn't look to me like anybody really thinks they are going to win. Already at least 3 special elections that took place in republican held districts have gone to democrats, democratic turnout (even before the republican nomination was decided) has been superior, and McCain still lost 25% of the north carolina republican vote despite NO OPOOSITION. Republicans have a big problem on their hands. This election is still the democrats to lose, EVEN if the nominee isn't your pick (and it isn't mine, I wanted Edwards).

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 05/07/2008

Bravo. One of the few blogs today that get it.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 05/07/2008

Ya know. cept for the VP thing. She will kill him in his sleep. Around 3AM.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 05/07/2008

Hillary will rebound, there is more damage for her to do to our fragile economy here in upstate New York. Some people actually have jobs, Our state government has been infiltrated by out of state appointees from Clintons White house days. America believe me when i say you aren't going to want to be in the same state as a woman scorned by politics, She has already made shambles of us, be happy she can't pillage America the way she has New York in her march to the Hudson. She wants to throw Omama across the Delaware.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 05/07/2008

Hillary is Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. Just when you think you've gotten rid of her, here she comes, doing more damage, more dirt. She will destroy herself trying to destroy her rival if she must. Nothing is beneath her.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 05/07/2008

I can't say without reservations that i think Hillary will just go away. She hasn't dragged the Democratic party threw the mud long enough. Her gas tax holiday was her way of saying she is available to the Republican party as a way of beating Obama. The young voters have seen McCain embrace Bush and his policies, i don't want my childrens,children to fight in Iraq. Hillary is not done, i have a feeling she is going to fight on, from the Republican side, who she has been helping all along. When we see her true colors, we will know our choice of Obama was correct.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 05/07/2008

Supporting Obama is something to be proud if you embrace his ideals.

If you read this comment and agree with it, put a question to yourself: Is this what I really believe? Is this the same thing I would have said two years ago? Would I be proud of myself for calling one of the icons of the progressive moment for the last two decades a "Republican"? Would I feel like I needed a shower after using Rush Limbaugh's one-liners to describe Hillary and Bill Clinton?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 05/07/2008

BenMAF

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 AM on 05/10/2008

Bravo!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 05/07/2008

Why is everyone pretending that the fix is not in to make Obama the nominee??
The mass media have chosen to look the other way, while 2 states and their votes are eliminated from the process.
Hillary won the popular vote in Michigan and Florida.
Meanwhile how about if we also mention that one third of North Carolina voters are black and 92% of them voted for Obama.

What are people afraid of? Why can't we admit what is happening?

Surely when John McCain wins the election and everyone wakes up it will be too late,
Today it is 'lets gloat over Obama day'.

Do you really think if the truth about him was known months ago he would be still on the ballot?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 05/07/2008

I am sorry the voters in those 2 states got screwed by their own legislatures. They were given time to come up with some other solution and they failed. All Democratic candidates, including Clinton, agreed going in that the results wouldn't count.

She lied. Why are you afraid to admit that?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 05/08/2008

Puh-leeeze. Hillary did not "win" the votes in Michigan and Florida by any rational or fair measure. Both candidates agreed going in that they would not campaign in those states, or honor their votes, to punish them for flouting DNC rules that were clear to everybody from the get-go. When it suited her "inevitability" strategy, that was just fine with Senator Clinton.

She then broke her agreement, and campaigned in Michigan, anyway. Even so, with no other choices on the ballot, 40% of Michiganders voted for "Not-Hillary". Do you expect us to believe that she would have done as well as she did if any other choice had been on the ballot? And in Florida she benefited from massive name recognition, to do as well as she did. If the outcomes had favored Obama and not her, you can bet your bottom dollar that she would be hollering at the top of her lungs about abiding by the party rules, and not rewarding illicit behavior.

Others have already dealt with your nonsense about black voters, so I won't bother with that point. As regards electability, though, Clinton is the one who would lose badly to McCain (his "experience" beats her "experience" any day, he's an actual macho hunting, whiskey-downing, warmongering Republican male, she just plays one on TV, etc.) The 'truth" (i.e., bullshit) about Obama has been flung at him already, and he has only come out stronger.